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Why did Gamefreak just give up on this Archetype ?
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>>59431276
Because it was retarded
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>>59431276
>weak fish becomes powerful
>ugly fish becomes beautiful
What else would there be? Stupid fish becomes smart? Fat fish becomes fit?
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>>59431276
Why didn’t they give Milotic a mega?
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>>59431276
What long-ish sea creatures you want them to do? A dragonfish or something like this might work, but you already have huntail. It would feel repetitive and would not sell well. The trope of the weak mon which becomes a very powerful, legendary-looking thing will probably be seen again
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>>59431335
>Wimpy fish teams up
Wishiwashi.
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>>59431347
Just the premise of a weak AF pokemon that you have to carry to level 20 to get a gem with 540 base stats..
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>>59431276
Gen V has Eelktross
Gen VII has Golisopod/Wishiwashi
Gen IX has Palafin
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>>59431380
>Level 39 + a Thunder Stone
>Level 30
>Level 38 + specific location evolution

None of them are Gyarados. Wishiwashi is the closest thing we've had in modern history and its still old as fuck.
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>>59431276
Wishiwashi is the gen VII Gyarados and Palafin the gen IX one, they just mixed up the mechanics a little but it's still the same blueprint (very weak fish into very strong fish).
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>>59431276
Gholdengo
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>>59431382
NTA but what the FUCK does evolution method have to do with this "archetype"?

Weak things become strong a lot in pokemon, just look at most pseudo legendaries. Really it's only Milotic that's specifically a 1 to 1 via statspread/appearance/theming

Golisopod comes pretty close but not really, more like a new spin on it
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>>59431276
Hoenn lazily ripping off Kanto doesn’t make this an “archetype”
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Literally Golisopod
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>>59431276
always felt weird why they didn't made all gyarados males and milotics female, and they could breed with each other.

male milotic feels homo as shit
and fem gyarados gives low T energy
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>>59431276
How come gen 5 doesnt have one of these? With how much they tried to mirror gen 1 down to the archetypes, you'd think it'd have its own gyarados, but none of them quite fit
>tympole line is a stretch, and also already a poliwag line clone
>basculin is a single stage (I would be willing to accept basculegion if it came out at launch instead of 15 years later)
>eelektross is a stretch
>swanna is a stretch
>cubchoo is a stretch
Most of these aren't even fish
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>>59431441
Nope, her ability hinders her so she's more the Archeops and Slaking archetype.
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>>59431442
Mega Gyarados' official art is exclusively female. Seethe and dilate.
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>>59431452
ok homo
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>>59431444
It's Volcarona obviously.
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>>59431456
Turn on your monitor.
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>>59431276
Gen 1: Gyarados
Gen 3: Milotic
Gen 5: ---
Gen 7: Golisopod
Gen 9: Goldengho?
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>>59431382
>beauty evolution
neither is milotic with that logic
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>>59431444
eelektross is the gyarados clone, they just took away the water type to have no weakness gimmick
Tynamo isnt learning any moves like Magikarp and Eelektross is the same windsock idea
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>>59431452
>Mega Gyarados' official art is exclusively female
How do you know this?
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>>59431382
wishiwashi is level 20 dipshit
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>>59431486
Whisker colors.
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>ITT: Retard keeps attempting to move goalposts & ends up shitting his pants every time

You love to see it
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>>59431478
The point of the archetype is this weak and very limited Pokémon evolving into a 550~ pretty strong one.
Eelektrik exitisting to bridge Tynamo and Eelektross invalidates it since it becomes just a regular line of weak -> mid -> strong which is the normal kind.
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>>59431544
Does Florges fit the archetype?
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>>59431544
Depends how you define it, but Eeleektross is the Gyarados clone of gen 5
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>>59431548
that's Alakazam's clone
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>>59431544
maybe that's why it requires a stone? you can entirely skip Eelektrik that way
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>>59431276
Applin maybe? Is borderline unusable like Magikarp but Flappe and Appletun are not that good, and desu I don't know how early or late you get the apple to evolve it
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>>59431380
Gen 9 also had Nymble.
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>>59431457
Touché.
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>>59431461
Gen 5 is Eelektross you dense fuck.
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>>59431377
>Just the premise of a weak AF pokemon that you have to carry to level 20 to get a gem with 540 base stats..
Leveling Pokemon is so trivial now that this has lost some meaning
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>>59431428
The point of a Gyarados is that it is an early game mon that if you grind it out, it can become your ace for the early game. It rewards you for suffering to train it up.
Getting a strong mon at >30 doesn't mean shit when you already have tons of mon evolving to that level of strength and your starter is almost there.
>>59431441
>mid-game mon that has a shit ability.
>>59431472
You can literally get Milotic in 1 level after dumping a bunch of berries into it to max out beauty. It actually takes less time than grinding 8 levels with Magikarp.
>>59431416
The amount of effort needed to get a Gholdengo before the 3rd gym is a level of insanity, not a commitment of grind needed to get an early ace mon.
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>>59431842
>you can get it by a DIFFERENT type of grinding!
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>>59431335
luvdisc > alololamolaoloalo would've worked if they werent so obsessed with keeping gen 5 in a vacuum, wimpy dick flat fish into fat fucking fat FAT fish
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>>59431276
i still think milotic should be water/dragon



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