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Do these do anything better than gens 1-5
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The Poke Pelago and Refresh are cute, but that's about it
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>>59451858
There are some challenging battles.
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>>59451858
They did berries better than any other game.
They had the largest pool of available pokemon (something I don't think will ever be topped now that we are in a post Dexit world).
TWO generations of battle gimmicks in one game (something no game before or since has done).
Better move tutors than anything before.
The first game with the Defog buff AND availability to Defog.
Boss battles with the totem Pokemon.
Most other things they did at least as good as gens 1-6.

The only thing Gen 6 did better was the PSS, but that was literally the only thing gen 6 got right.
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>>59451858
No not really
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>>59451858
Mantine surfing is fun
Pokepelago is good
I liked ultra wormholes
Camera minigame is kinda fun
Some good music, good graphics, honestly probably best in the series fof environments and NPCs. Pokemon model expressiveness in battles still best in gen 5
Rotom is an annoying faggot and makes the pass powers equivalent of the game tedious to obtain
Festival plaza was not good
They really need to revive PSS with the weird bugs squashed and some extra polish. And dont be pussy by excluding the voice chat feature
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>>59451858
Difficulty
Writing
Animations
Trainer customization
Pokemon count
Breeding QoL
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>>59451858
They have the best girls in the franchise
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>>59451949
Writing?

Fucking writing?? You mad, retard? The very same gen that messed up their own story??? Dude, you are stupid af.
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>>59451995
USUM has still a better story than gens 1-6
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>>59451995
It messes up its story less than gen 1-5, correct.
*kicks munna*
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>>59451858
The battles are better than anything not named BW2.
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>>59452118
They’re better than everything including B2W2. The sequels’ number of noteworthy fights are countable on one hand.
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>>59452083
hi yawnfag
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>>59452118
>no EVs
>no totem stat boosts
>no forced 1v2
>terrible AI
>”B-B-BW2 has better fights!”
sure retard
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weaving the legendaries into the story early w/out it being too forced
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>>59452156
Most of it isn't relevant for half the battles. Pokemon with good stats, good abilities, and good movesets are the only difficult parts of the game. Like, only Yawnfag would call Totem Kommo-o hard, but the water and grass totems actually have synergies that actually work and are good like the Game Cube titles. Even Ultra Necrozma is just big number with no real strategy aside from "bring Zoroark". This isn't even getting into the optional and partially systematic power creep that USUM has over B2W2 (where it's less likely you'll have one of the more optimized Unova Pokemon because of the larger Pokemon pool). Like nobody is going to pretend BDSP is harder than DP despite BDSP having IVs, EVs, and AI that actually works because of mandatory affection and a Pokemon pool that making battles easier in general.
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>>59451858
Lolis, hebes and coombaits
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>>59452073
USUM's writing is inferior to SM on its own, so I know you are talking bullshit
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>>59451858
A lot, it's just cool to hate right now because according to the internet, everything from the 2000s was absolutely perfect and it's 2010/11/12/13/14/15/16's fault I can't be ignorant anymore. 10 years ago, it was cool to shit on the 00s and I kinda wish we could put 00s kids in their place again
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>>59451858
you will NEVER be allowed to lump Gen 1 and 5 in the same era, especially considering the animosity between the 2 fanbases
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>>59451858
Oranguru
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>>59453318
Oranguru walked so Farigiraf could trick room
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>>59453070
SM isn’t in gen 1-6
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>>59451858
No.
>muh story
More story =/= better story. In fact, when your writing quality is as painfully average as Pokemon, it's better to have a sparse story than an overly present and verbose one. SM's writing isn't any better than the gens that preceded it, there's just a lot more fucking writing which makes it a slog. Sometimes less is more.
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>>59453481
>SM's writing isn't any better than the gens that preceded it,
*kicks munna*
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>>59451905
>They had the largest pool of available pokemon
is that counting ultra wormhole Pokemon or something? playing through the games normally, the Pokemon selection actually feels quite limited compared to XY and about on par with BW2. or do you just mean largest as in.every Pokemon programmed into the game, because it was the last gen before dexit? which is fair but was also pretty much expected up to that point.
>>59453306
if anything I feel like there are a lot more people who are positive towards gen 7 than there used to be, I actually feel like there's less negativity about it than there was years ago. partly I think because people who played it.as kids grew up and are participating in the discourse now and have nostalgia for it, and also a lot of people who were really turned off by it have probably abandoned the franchise by now
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USUM looks nicer than the 2D games, smart some of the boss Pokemon are clever. But some of them are also like the Dragon trial where you can just OHKO with Fairies.
It's ok.
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>>59451858
No.
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>>59451995
You're confusing story with writing. Stuff like character writing is a lot better in gen 7 compared to 1-5 (and 6). You can see that in the leaks too, where every character got a pretty elaborate background story, even minor characters that aren't exactly story-relevant. This is a huge step-up from previous gens, where gym leaders had like 10 lines of dialogue with like 1 implied character trait if you were lucky.
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>>59451858
Have the best "Resting Bitch Face" waifu
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>>59453494
Gen 7 was originally planned to be the Dexit generation but it also being on the 3DS made importing all the pokemon from XY easier than dexiting.
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>>59451858
They do everything better than gen 5, gens 1-4 not so much
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>>59451858
Main story difficulty but that's about it and it doesn't feel rewarding. It's better to just run 1-5 with a self-imposed challenge.



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