>it's WAY better than Diamond and Pearl>they're LITERALLY unplayable>Platinum is my favorite! Why are people so fucking weird about platinum? People seriously things because surf speed is slower and there's no fire Pokemon that Diamond and Pearl are somehow bad games despite being 95% the same as Platinum.
>>59459794>slow game>no fire typesThe two biggest complaints, it addressed both more or less. Gen 4 caught a boatload of flak back in the day and many DP fans were quick to latch onto having their "own emerald" (mind you, crystal was the first definitive edition, but emerald was far more definitive to its gen).
>>59459794Its Giratinas fault, Sinnohfetii are edgy faggolii
>>59459809I feel like HGSS are WAY slower than DP, and while Infernape is the only fire type, he's also better than any fire line in aesthetics since gen 1 and literally the single best fire Pokemon outside legendaries in terms of game capabilities as of gen 4.
>>59459824HGSS I would say *are* slower overall (lends itself to the region better imo and I don't think DP was "too" slow either) but traversing the map, the snow and mud, and then things like HP bars, "saving a lot of data," DP *felt* slower to me.
>>59459838How often are you niggers saving that this is a real problem? And mud and snow are in two areas you blow by in 5 minutes
>>59459844>savingOften enough.>mud and snowThey add to the pile.>real problemA precious stone of 90% quality is only of 50% value.
>>59459859All fake outrage got it
>>59459794the real redpill is that all three are shit
>>59459794The reality is that the slowness is annoying there as well. But nowadays everyone can just emulate it so who cares
>>59459838>muh snow and mudSoulless
>>59459893Why is everyone a zoombrain that needs 4x speed to play through a game?
>>59459794Fire is my least favorite type so thats really a non issue for me but platinum really is just better all around, it has the better postgame and the story is an improvement, giratina is based
>>59459824>>59459838hgss is a lot slower when it comes to team progression (voltorb flip vs grinding out coins, vs seeker vs phone calls, much later move tutor and evolution items, etc.) but sinnoh's map has more annoying elements (fog, mud, having to fly back to rowan's lab after the distortion world. etc.). i think platinum is funner to replay overall though
>>59459809Should have picked the best starter.
>>59459968>fogToo bad you don't get the shock wave TM immediately before the fog.
>>59459824Replay it again.DP is way, way slower than both Platinum and HGSS
>>59459794>changes entire look of overworld>changes Pokedex>changes trainers >changes gyms >battle frontier>new characters>distortion world>tons of events and other extra content >95% the same??????????????
>>59460061>dude aaron has a yanmega now its completely different now!!!
>>59459934Gen 4 is a literal zoomer game, anon
>>59460112Yeah like 3And 2And 1
>>594601273 is like on the cusp, so it’s a blend. 1 and 2 are definitely not
>>59459794you almost had it right:>>59459794>People seriously think because surf speed is faster and there's a couple fire Pokemon that Platinum is somehow a bad game despite being 95% the same as Diamond and Pearl.Nobody likes to admit it but gen 4 was the worst gen in the series, at least pre-dexit (I haven't touched gen 8 or 9 so I don't know if they're better or worse)
>>59459794Having played Diamond recently, most people are full of shit lol. The average person isn’t going to deny that Platinum is an overall improvement but DP are still there for most of the shit that matters.
>>59460085>changes don't matter actually!i accept your concession
>>594597943rd version syndrome. Same with Emeraldfags and Crystaltrannies.
>>59460776>dude instead of clicking A to one shot his beautifly you click A to one shot his yanmega!correct, it doesn't matter, they're all the same shit game
I replayed Diamond and Platinum recently while doing some livingdex stuff, and I was really shocked at how much faster Platinum actually is.I wouldn't say platinum is even necessarily fast, but DP are genuinely glacial.
>>59459794Realistically the Surf speed and the lack of Fire-types shouldn't be dealbreakers, but they're just such mind-bogglingly stupid decisions that they make you question every other decision in the games.
>>59460826As an aside, I'm going to have to at some point play up to just before canalave in Pearl for a fucking glameow and I've been putting this off for months. Diamond only made me get the bike for stunky
i couldnt get past the first three towns. Pokemon after GBA is just so bad without mods.
>>59460032Playing them right now. DP is slower than Plat obviously but as fast as HGSS. Regardless, being a bit slower is in no way a serious issue.
>>59459794Why am I all of a sudden being assblasted about “DP sucks” as soon as I regain interest in the franchise? When did this happen?>>59459934I guess that explains it.
>>59460776Fundamentally, yes. Every single mainline Pokemon game that isn't an experimental derivative like the Legends series has been the same shit since Red and Green.
>>59459794DP have the smallest fucking regional dex in the goddamn series. You have fewer team options than fucking Gen 1. And it has a much higher concentration of useless shitmons. That’s why the “Sinnoh” team exists but the same can’t be said for Kanto. There’s only about 10 viable team members (including all 3 starters) while even Kanto had at least 20. Platinum barely gets it back up to Gen 2-3 standards so that you have some options. And in a Pokemon game, nothing is as make or break as the fucking team options. Don’t be dense, you fucking underaged retard>>59461080DP was always trash. There’s a reason sales tanked for every game after until the GO effect came into play. DP is where most who made it past Gen 2 and most who joined in Gen 3 jumped ship. The anime was stale and cringe, the games were unfinished garbage, and the only thing with any semblance of quality were spinoffs, which were still hit or miss.
>>59461111>There’s a reason sales tanked for every game after until the GO effect came into play.This time you got it wrong.
>>59461111How were the game unfinished? I don't understand that at all. And I really have no idea what you're talking about with shitmons, Staraptor is fucking great, Bibarel is the earliest and one of the best HM slaves in the franchise, so your QoL out of the gate is incredible. Kricketot sucks I'll give you that, Luxray is cool and even though he never learns a good physical electric attack you can still get some mileage out of intimidate, Roserade is awesome, Rampardos is cool and in a normal playthrough his shit speed isn't a big deal, bastiodon sucks, wormadon is interesting and trash cloak can be helpful in a playthrough, vespiquen kinda sucks, pachirisu at least has pickup, floatzel is great in a playthrough, cherrim meh, Gastrodon is great, Ambipom is pretty good, Drifblim is great, Lopunny is great, Honchkrow and Mismagius are great, Purrugly and Skuntank are definitely usable in a playthrough, Bronzong is a god, Lucario, Garchomp, Hippodown, all great, then you have cross gen evos like Magmortar, Electivire, Magnezone, Togekiss, Yanmega, Leafeon, Glaceon, Gliscor, Mamoswine, Porygon Z, Gallade, Froslass.Where bro? Where are the trash mons?
>>59460023You get the Shock Wave and Aerial Ace TMs hours before encountering any fog, and immediately before going into the fog you face a fighting gym and a water gym, it is very likely that you would have one or even both of those moves on your team
>>59461111DP sold more than RS
>>59461111Schizo babble.
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>>59462161Geodude is way funnier, DP is the absolute crown of dogshit distribution. Especially when the region is devoid of actual variety
>>59461126You literally just posted proof. Sales fell off after DP disappointed buyers and didn’t recover until Gen 8>>59461475>Magmortar, Electivire, Magnezone, Togekiss, Yanmega, Leafeon, Glaceon, Gliscor, Mamoswine, Porygon Z, Gallade, Froslass.Not a single one of these is available in the regional dex fucking larper.https://www.serebii.net/diamondpearl/shinoudex.shtml
>>59462161>>59462166Why’d they bring those two back for the fourth fucking region in a row? At this point we have almost 500 pokemon. What the fuck?
>>59462190Who gives a fuck if they were in the regional dex? They're gen 4 and not shitmons. Who are the gen 4 shitmons? And why did Platinum sell more than emerald?
>>59462161machoke is so sexy
>>59461111>>59462190>the Unovatard cope that Gen 5 sold less because of Gen 4I rarely see it but it's disgusting that I see it at all.
>gen 4 derangement syndrome
