It's so over for this franchise blud.Palworld is going the route where they keep updating the same game where as gamefreak wants to feed us shoverlware on a bi yearly basis.
>>59462023>disingenuous sales baitAt least post the citations that LZA's sold around 12-13 million copies total as of December 2025 (the last time we got an official sales report).
>>59462028Nigger this is straight from Nintendo's official website. the fuck are you on about?https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/finance/software/index.htmlThe switch2 version sold like straight ass
>>59462038You're comparing Palworld's total sales across all platforms it's available on (thus, 30.5m copies sold) to LZA's sales across JUST the Switch 2 instead of combining its SW2 sales with SW1 sales.Thus, it's disingenuous bait.
>>59462023HOLY FUCKING SHIT >>59462027Lmaoo
>It's so over for this franchise blud.Palworld's success is because the game gives what people wanted with Pokemon.Why?- You're able to ride most creatures in Palworld while in Pokemon it's extremely limited.- Pals have actual use outside of battles so battle viability isn't the only factor (meanwhile in Pokemon there are fully evolved Pokemon too shit for a playthrough).- You can interact with your pals and pet them (meanwhile in Pokemon it's shitty """minigames""" like in SV and SWSH that Aime and Refresh died for).- the larger creatures are actually large (like Braloha compared to Aurorus or Panthalus compared to Kyogre or Wailord).- Palworld doesn't have faggots like Verlisify.
So it hasn't even outsold RG/B yet?Kek, floppa sloppa.
>>59462059It's cute that you think the Pokemon video games matter in the slightest to franchise. There could never be a single new game and nothing would change.
>>59462038Now post Switch1 sales. Now post DLC sales. Now compare profit totals between Palworld and ZA. After that, you can add Pokopia and the hundreds of millions of dollars they've made off merch so far this year.
>>59462160They do, actually. The games are the first and foremost point most new Pokemon and characters are introduced to this franchise, and without the games, the anime, merchandise, TCG and manga cannot adapt those Pokemon and creatures.That's why you rarely see other media be the ones to debut things that aren't exclusive to their mediums. Meanwhile if the games bring about a new mon or character, you bet your sweet ass the rest of the franchise will start clawing at the earliest opportunity to ALSO use those mons and characters.
>>59462059I don't want to attack pokemon with guns tho
>>59462580Yeah, but consider america. Whenever they detest something in their lives, they bring a gun with them and shoot up what annoys them. Which explains why palworld's so attractive to them.
>>59462050You're right. Let's add the totals in for the PS5 and Xbox sales for Pokemon ZA to make it fair.
>>59462580Riding a Grizzbolt (like a giant electabuzz without the down syndrome) and firing a minigun is pretty damn satisfying
>>59462023They beat digimon. Congrats?
Pokesissies, what's our next cope?
>>59462728That IS the total amount. Which is why its so funny seeing kids squeal about sales, when it didn't even best Genwun yet.Despite being "objectively" better.
>>59462023Palworld is one game that would not have a sequel for years.Pokémon releases new titles almost annually.
>>59462023Palworld 2 is coming at some point. Palworld is the first contender who has managed to capture the casual Pokéfag audience in decades and there is no way they will squander it by only releasing endgame content aimed at diehards.
>>59462751While I don't disagree there's a measure of cross-over, I doubt they got the "cassual pokéfag audience" we KNOW what that audience is and it doesn't mesh with an extraction shooter/crafter/animal husbandry game like palworld.>>59462741You are fundamentally retarded if you think Sony aren't right this minute telling PP to get making palworld 2 already. They've been looking their own pokémon for years, a stable solid money-spewing franchise they can lean on to hide their mismanagement of their gaming division. And now they're funding palworld development, they're going to want sequels to expand the brand. Fuck, Nintendo were on Game Freak's arse before year's end '96 demanding they get a Pokémon 2 to continue to profit off the burgeoning franchise people were demanding to be offered on-sale. And that hadn't even been unleashed on the west at that point to REALLY explode in popularity and sales numbers.
>>59462730And Pokemon KEK
>>59462023The fact it's only been 2 weeks and you got bored of your shitty game and went back to crying about pokemon says everything.>>59462050>30.5m copies soldIt didn't. It's some fake "analyst estimate".
>>59462580You can make your pals more comfortable, and you can also always equip them with an item that leaves them with 1 HP and then capture them.
I like Palworld much more than Pokémon, but I'm sure that after its peak popularity it will decline, it won't be talked about as much anymore, and its studio won't manage things well.
>>59462874I trust them to handle the games better than Game Freak does with Pokemon
>>59462877Well, you're right, it's not that difficult anymore, anyone can do it. The good thing is that it's on PC and it's UE5 (well, it's a crappy engine, but it's quite accessible). You can always install mods, and the game attracted enough people to make mods.
>>59462874Even Japs have signal strong hatred for the game, and the game is Japanese. Like, some JP producers / devs got hated from Westernards because they spoke up against Palworld.Anyone who thinks that Palworld will survive for an extended period of time, or have as many sequels etc. is just delusional... especially when Japanese people HATE that game.
>>59462732We still have "THAT"
>>59462891the porn?
>>59462901.... Yes, that too
>>59462920MEMES AND PORNthe wooloo has a dick btw
>>59462059>meanwhile in Pokemon there are fully evolved Pokemon too shit for a playthroughNo there’s not
>>59462935Play gen 4. There's a whole bunch of unviable fully evolved mons
>>59462938You couldn’t have chosen a worse gen to use as an example. I spent a few months during quarantine beating Platinum with every fully evolved Gen 4 Mon. Everything isn’t Infernape and Garchomp level of strength obviously but these games are so easy you’d have to be running unevolved mons for this to be remotely challenging.
>>59462943>PlatinumYou mean the game that fixed DP's Dex problems? Need I remind you that you couldn't obtain the majority of gen 4's new evolutions in DP until after beating the game.
palworld is arc survival with a really good ad campaign. pokemon is a disney esque mega franchise that plans to outlive the grandchildren of your family line through the image of an evil mouse. palworld gas legs, but the japanese big wigs and shareholders don't give a fuck about palworld. they give a fuck about the licensing laws setting a precedent after palworld and ai open the floodgates for anyone to follow suit
>>59462949You said play Gen 4. You never specified DP. DP are easier than Platinum so it’s not like it’d make a difference. Flint having a Houndoom isn’t making a massive impact lol.>Need I remind you that you couldn't obtain the majority of gen 4's new evolutions in DP until after beating the game.Everyone and their mother knows this hence why I played Platinum to use all the Gen 4 Pokemon.
>>59462921Hahaha!
>>59462023They deserve it for the toilet Feraligatr design alone.That level of contempt for a Pokémon should demand the death of the franchise.
Palword is basically Fortnite:The game itself is ugly, derivative and kinda shallow normiebait but you get to play with your favorite scrimblos and clip farm with it so it sticks around.
>>59463328This but NuPokemon games
Can anyone explain to me, someone who is interested in Pokemon and not interested in Palworld, why I should care about Palworld sales numbers?
>>59463351something something doomer bait rivalry thingy. you shouldn't as long as there's new pokemon games comin.
>>59462059/vp/ talks like everyone hate alphas so I don't think pokemon fans want large creatures
>>59463351This but with video games sales in general
>>59462059>Palworld's success is because the game gives what people wanted with Pokemon.It really does not. No one playing RBY ever went:>Gee I sure wish I could mine shit to build a base in this gameI didn't even like it that much, Kenshi and Rimworld are more fun in that regard.People saying Gamefreak needs to learn from Palworld have no idea what they're talking about. You just want better animations. I surely don't want Pokemon copying a bland base builder we have to pretend is god tier to own the Gamefreak chuds.
nah it's over when nips and pokefags stop consooming
>>59462059I didn't want any of those things. I wanted an interesting world to explore
>>59463416I don't think that anon is referring to the survival crafting shit (hence why he didnt mention it)
>>59463421Did profit really used to be that low ???
>>59462887why would japs hate it? its a monster collecting game with effort put into it unlike the ones nintendo shits out
>>59463871Because it's derivative shite with no heart, soul or care. Hence why Sony bought them and are currently funding palworld 2.
>>59462887Holy cope kek
>>59462023How many copies did Red/Blue sell?Palmania is here lads.
Rember when yokai watch was supposed to dethrone pokemon?I rember
>>59462059>- Palworld doesn't have faggots like Verlisify.OH NO NO NO NO
>>59462938I beat ghetsis hydreigon with a dressela. People do fucking ratata challenge runs and you come here to say „w-well, because it‘s not super strong ubers it‘s bad“.
Palbros we can't stop winning.
>>59462725>Which explains why palworld's so attractive to them.It has failed to reached a 20% of its concurrent player distribution in America. No, after a few weeks of 1.0's release, Plagworld is not attractive to them, shill.https://gamalytic.com/game/1623730
>>59463421yep pokemon is doing better than ever with SV being the first time a gen outsold the first games there
>it says while merkin retards spam this shit constantly on the pokémonfag containment boardYeah. Sure.
>>59462855The palfag existence
>>59462023Spiritually Chinese "game".Run your shitty disruption shilling campaign elsewhere.
>>59464059>spiritually brown
>>59464059Finally found out Pocket Pair is Japanese huh? So embarrassed you were wrong that you're moving the goalposts now huh?
>>59462023as a tourist, i don't think the comparison is fair at allyou're comparing pears with apples, Pokémon is an insanely titan-esque franchise, they reach billion USDs per year, and it could easily be a country's economy, and has been running for like 1999 or so, steadily growing.>The Pokémon Company recorded $3.34 billion in net sales and a net profit of $754 million for its fiscal year ending in February 2026, marking a 70.7% year-over-year profit increase.while Palworld is really damn good at what it does, it's just absurd to compare it with Pokemongames-wise, sure, we can compare who's getting the most people, but to say that the franchise is doomed is so retarded when Pokemon is steadily growing per yearit's still retarded what Pokemon is doing to their vidyagames, like downright asinine, but then again, people keep consooming and Pokemon doesn't give a shit about competition when their growth is so steadily upwards per year
>>59464873Run by Tencent doebeit
>>59462023as someone who enjoys both franchises, the reason ZA was tedious is because they dont have to try, it will sell.Palworld had to try cause it isn't Pokemon, it can't just rely on the brand. Waves shouldn't be as bad but still, "too big to fail" is holding the games back.
>>59463973now let's pull up Pokemon's Chinese playerbase
>>59465103Pocketpair really had to hit it with this one, because all of their games were so doomedThey honestly got blessed with Palworld, and they're giga-capitalizing on it with TCG, some degen visual novel, and some sort of Animal Crossing game or somethingbut goddamn they really hit off with it
>>59463416>People saying Gamefreak needs to learn from Palworld have no idea what they're talking about. You just want better animations.Wrong, the reason Palworld is mogging the fuck out of Pokemon is because Pals are directly tied to every aspect of gameplay. People aren't playing Palworld because you can craft a pickaxe and mine ore, they're playing it because you can catch a Pal and have him come out and ride on his back till you find some materials, then he can carry them back with you and help you build something with them, and then you can give him some nice food and a good bed as a reward.Gamefreak has completely sucked out the Pokemon interactivity out of the games in favor of focusing on the human NPCs and shoving everyone into the PvP skinnerbox. Actually hanging out with your Pokemon is limited to them following behind you and a barebones photo mode. It's not just about animations, though those are bad too, people want to actually INTERACT with their Pokemon, that means riding, feeding, petting, sleeping, whatever with them. Pokemon began and ended that with Amie, then removed Amie from the games, along with anything interesting you could do with your Pokemon like Pokeathalon, Hyper Training, Dream World, what the fuck ever. You can't even ride on your own Pokemon anymore, they kept that feature locked to LGPE of all things. Until GF remembers what drew people to Pokemon in the first place, and spoilers, it's not PvP or the worst JRPG gameplay on Switch, Palworld is going to keep selling gangbusters.
>>59462038>The switch2 version sold like straight assyeah that's like saying palworld sold like ass and only presenting xbox series S sales as proof
>>59465103>Palworld had to try>ended up ripping off Ark, Pokémon and minecraft/DQB in their efforts>>59465097Focusing on far more profitable, receptive and willing markets is not "retarded" lad. In fact doing JUST that afforded it reaching you in your youth to get you so invested in it, you're here in your adulthood instead of on the normienet thinking about normalfag interests like the new OoT remake.
>>59465225>What drew people to Pokemon?>Ethics in a game.>Look at me how reasonable I am just like Socrates! I deserve your attention!Not gonna happen. Nintendo is a greedy capitalist pig. Leave the multi billion dollar company alone.
>>59462855Stop coping it's on course to sell 33m now. Welcome to the new age of monster collection.
>>59462023>>59462038Man, PLZA was ass, but you're posting 4m sales on a system with like 15m consoles, 1/3rd of all owners of a console buying a single game isn't bad.>>59462059It's a whole combination of things. Sure, Palworld isn't technically that great of a game, but it's got SOVL, something Pokemon doesn't have very often.>every Pal has different specialties for what kinds of work they can do and how well>every job they do has a different animation, made solely for that job. This even includes giving work skills to a Pal that doesn't actually have that skill. (Give humans Kindling, btw)>some Pals clearly dislike certain jobs, like making Dupin do any physical labor>high Trust Pals unlock new animations when they're around you and change the ending too>you actually RIDE your flying Pals and previously, your gliding Pals. RIP. Though most people don't notice your gliding Pal changes what your glider looks like>every mount, air/sea/land, animates differently as they go God I love the ones that can't swim>every Pal has a different petting animation and reaction>every Pal can be viable if you put in the time and effort>every Pal has a signature move, and most are actually unique>Pals vary wildly in size VISUALLY and not just in some Pokedex>powerful moves look and FEEL powerful, especially when fired at you, and there's some real show-stoppers like half the shit Bellanoir does>breeding is autism-bait AND/OR a fun gamble instead of it just being "grab 6IV foreign Ditto and you're good"-and all that's just regarding the Pals themselves.>>59462160This. The games are ONLY there to introduce new Pokemon to make merch of, though Nintendo LOVES comparisons and even early Palworld pissed them off. They're probably seething now, hidden behind that emotionless Japanese CEO face the big corporate bosses love to do when things don't go their way.
>>59462023I don't want Gamefreak to fail. However, I am hoping the brutal mogging by Palworld will humble GF enough that they actually start trying (they won't).Whats surprising to me is how long the dev cycles are getting just to put out..lackluster product.
>>59465401Adding to this, the Pal designs seem more similar to 'old' Pokemon rather then the goofy meme/food /cutesy designs GF seems to favor now
>>59465401nothing is going to change, they are going to make the same games for babies
>>59465398 (me)It pisses me off that the only Pokemon game that feels "right" is LGPE, the same game that introduces "Baddy Bad" and replaces battles with Pokemon Go catching minigames.I'm so mad they decided that fuckin' game was gonna be the one they'd try to cash in on the PoGo craze with.Probably the biggest part of Palworld that tugged at people's nostalgia is the idea of doing shit with your Pokemon. Having your Arcanine cook your food, using your Pikachu to charge your phone, flying through the sky on your Fearow, watering a garden with your Wartortle, huddling close to your Flareon in a blizzard trying not to freeze, watching your dumbass Psyduck drown in a river because it doesn't remember how to swim.Pokemon never fucking does any of that, but LGPE did that to an extent, you could ride various Pokemon and they'd move differently. USUM kinda did it too, though they weren't your Pokemon.Palworld, you've got a goat with a berry bush on its back? Free food for your whole team.You're going to a snowy area and you're freezing? Send out your flaming fox and you stay warm whenever you're close to it, no special skill required or anything.Too lazy to go fishing properly? Chuck your electric porcupine into the water and shock them out.It's a lot more "personal" and memorable that way.Most """Pokemon clones""", people forget the names of the monsters pretty quick, but Palworld is giving people connections with their Pals and so you're hearing people calling the goonerbait Pals by name, they're talking about their favorite Pals by name, people are buying merch of their favorite Pals (if it exists), they're making weird Deviantart OCs of various Pals, autists are making weird hand inflation drawings of their Pals, etc.Dunno how long it'll all last, but eh, it's made a cultural impact at least and I get a kick out of Japs playing it and realizing they knew jack shit about Palworld this whole time.
>>59463952nobody gave a shit to yokai watch in the west
>>59465365>le pokemon killer!good job now palworld will die
>>59465105>get BTFO and proven wrong>b-but what about le pokemonpalfags are the jews of the world, facts don't matter to them
>>59465401What "brutal mogging"? The vast majority of paltards are the exact same kind of people who would never have bought Pokémon, or worse, were the exact same kind, but grew up, out of the target dedmo and manchilded over it not caring for adults over kids and furfags and casuals over autistic spergs.And if palworld isn't actually trying to directly compete in Pokémon's target demo, it's not going to be any concern to them, nor will it force any kind of change from them, unlike when Yo-Kai Watch came along, stuck two fingers up at Game Freak and went DIRECTLY into their market to compete with their idea (seem to remember weeb manchild fuckers squealing how Game Freak were "ripping off" Yo-Kai Watch. Can't confirm, don't play kids games, outside Pokémon but do know GF and Lv5 were sharing a target demo at the time). It's not so much they're number one, it's because they're number one while still having a creature design ethos head-and-shoulders above all other moncap collector games. Which continues pulling kid into the games, tv show and universe as a whole.
>>59465551>>59465498>>59465478You sound upset
>>59465551>The vast majority of paltards are the exact same kind of people who would never have bought PokémonIt's not my fault because Pokemon is Nintendo-gated and consoles nowadays are an unironic scam.
>>59465407Pal designs are mostly furshit
>>59465735only lategame pals i'd say, but its a 50-50 between monster/animal-like and furshit/waifushit
>>59465729better than any Pokemon
