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A thread for the creation and discussion of fan fiction and other fanworks - anything that involves a story and/or reading. What've you been reading? What've you been writing? What would you like to see more of?

>Thread question:
What do you do if you found yourself writing into a corner?

>Previous thread:
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>>59462157
I love my wife Green!
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>>59460355
jord is tasteless trash
silver is retardkino
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>>59462173
They both do the same shit
the only difference is Jord actually gets some and doesn't rely on a god to win his battles for him
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>>59462185
nta but do either of them go for the moms instead? Honestly aside from Hilda and Rosa I feel like most pokegirls are less attractive compared to their mothers.
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>>59462173
Jord is a plain power fantasy
SI-LVER is a female "I can fix him" fantasy
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>>59462185
he relies on plot armor and being a mary sue instead
which silver also has but to a less shameless degree
>>59462247
exactly what I said
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>>59462267
>which silver also has but to a less shameless degree
Having read both partway through I hard disagree. Jord wins using his pokemon that he trained, Silver wins using Giratina hacks.
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>>59462316
silver wins using giratina hax once against mewtwo
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Writing prompt for this thread in case that one person who's asking for them is here:

The evil team of (insert region here) won. How does that change your protagonist's journey?
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>>59462352
>The evil team of (insert region here) won. How does that change your protagonist's journey?

Not at all. We double battle them together until we conquer the region ourselves and hope not to attract the attention of shadow deoxys in the process.
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Do you guys think Pokémon die in the wild? And what happens to the bodies?:
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>>59462476
>...made their bodies a feast for dogs and all kinds of birds.
>For such was the will of Arceus.
-The PokeIliad
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>Have every scene for the next 5ish chapters well outlined and narratively setup
>Current scene is kicking my ass and I can't just skip over it
It's a very specific sort of frustration. Also fuck you Froslass.
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>>59462352
>The evil team of (insert region here) won. How does that change your protagonist's journey?
Uuuuhhhhh, going by USUM everyone but the retards die so there really isn't much of a journey unless the MC is a survivor whose only goal is to kill the retard that destroyed the world in what is basically a race against time thanks to muh multiverse conqueror Giovanni who will take the retard robbing you of the only reason you're still alive in a doomed world.
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>>59462476
Mandibuzz take their bones as decoration
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>>59462352
>X/Y
Several of the characters wouldn't exist in the first place, and the remainder would probably be living extremely different lives. Lysandre would be dead entirely instead of an immortal tree, and the Kalos region would be an uninhabitable hellscape where the few who survived have become abstract fae creatures that are neither human nor Pokemon and exist in a dreamlike stupor.
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>>59462352
but my evil team did win
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>>59462352
>Kanto and Johto games
TR wins and controls the region with a shadow government or something similar. Unless you want to go multiverse conqueror Giovanni but that’s a whole other thing.
>Maxie/Archie wins
Horrible heat or storms making travel almost impossible, or at least extremely challenging. Water Pokemon needed in both worlds.
>Cyrus
I’ll go with that miniseries ending where he just goes to the Distortion World. Space-Time Distortions become commonplace in Sinnoh, wreaking havoc on ecosystems bringing Iskeai-jin
>Ghetsis wins
Owning Pokemon becomes illegal, trainer is a fugitive. Or in B2W2’s case, most of the region is covered in ice???
>Lysandre
Guy becomes almost immortal, wipes out most life between Geosenge and Lumiose. Likely taken and killed/sealed by Zygarde. Maybe there’s weird mutations in the Pokemon that live in the blast zone.
>Lusamine
UBs/Necrozma take over Alola with no way to get home since Cosmoem is unresponsive. Alola’s “light” is gone, so it’s a permanent apocalyptic twilight.
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Which threadfic do we think updates next? I got a gut feeling CSP is gonna drop something soon.
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>>59462157
what's the in-universe reason for places like Lost Cave?
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So where are all the AI stories I heard were going to ruin everything?

Seems to be like the fanfiction community hasn't had any big stories recently. There are some old ones still posting, but the freshness is gone.
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>>59462787
two more weeks
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>>59462740
backrooms
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>>59462352
>Team Rocket
Well putting Giovanni in charge probably makes it more of a thriller Honestly there would still be some form of journey and I think a lot of the same characters would show up, but some antagonists would become allies while Giovanni himself would change how he acts despite the core of his character staying the same.
I imagine it'd be pretty grungy.
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>>59462787
Start Writing Your Own Story
You can do it anon, i believe in you.
Or just browse what's new and looks interesting on ao3 then report back here, new discussion material sounds good
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>>59462740
A Pokemon Did It.

The question is, what pokemon and why. I never played that part so I don't know what the pokemon/rewards are for that place.
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>>59462352
>pokenormal
Champion Giovanni's corruption is a widely known secret and Celadon City is a crime ridden polluted shithole. Rotom phones and Rotom Taxis are now subsidiaries of Rocket Co. There is no detective agency, and instead Tobio never stopped being a conman. He actively only cons Team Rocket members as a trusted member of their criminal network, and secretly gives back most of the money to the community. One day he realizes that he doesn't know why conspiracy theories cover the walls of his small apartment despite the fact that they've been there a long time. He comes to the conclusion that aliens have abducted him and altered his memory. A woman arrives with no memory of why she came, only to find that she is being stalked by something that looks like Gym Leader Cassidy... And so the adventures of the Celadon Extraterrestrial Detectice Agency begins.

They have no idea that they are being haunted by ghosts and not aliens.
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>weapons can't be a thing because Pokémon exist
Okay? Then why are cars, bikes, ships, planes and so on if Pokémon can take you anywhere?

Why are hospitals needed when Pokémon can heal?

Why are clothes needed when Pokémon are always naked?

Face it, weapons are a natural step for humans to protect themselves when your Pokémon are down
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>2000 words today
Winning as usual.
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>>59463213
Based, I've only been able to manage 1.6K
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>>59463196
I wouldn't say "can't be a thing," but any fic trying to go above professional Pokemon battling will lose all sorts of stakes. Oh hey, Ghetsis is trying to take over the unova region? He just got neutralized by Samurott Team 6 and a sniper rifle. Multiverse conqueror Giovanni just appeared? Actually never mind, he got taken out by a tomahawk cruise missile. Of course weapons would realistically be in the Pokemon world, but it removes all stakes or reason for the Pokemon trainer to be involved in importnt events (if you're writing them). My Hero Acadmia uses guns but they're not the focus for that reason. People want to see the heroes with their quirks fighting battles with stakes. Sure a few quirk users could function in a society where everyone has guns, but it's not a main focus of the series for a reason: it removes the point of having a superhero universe.

All this to say, if you feel so strongly about it, make a Pokemon training story with guns. Nothing is stopping you.
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>>59463196
I think guns are neat
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>>59463213
I shall join you in 2k word Valhalla soon, writebro.
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>>59463213
I-I got 4 pages worth in my composition book for outlines...
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>>59463213
I... I can't get past the opening lines, I know I've been complaining about that a lot here but I guess I have autism, everytime I think it sounds good something in my mind tells me it isn't and I delete it again and again.

Gonna read some Sanderson book to get the flow tho, his prose is kinda easy to not say childish so I guess I can learn a lot there.
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>>59463610
What's stopping you? Are you trying to make the opening line iconic, or have it be a stunningly gripping hook? You're not just going to conjure that out of thin air n your first go.

If you really want to learn to have no shame, write and post some smut, the more niche the better. After that everything comes easy. You're not going to write an absolute banger on your first go around with writing.
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>>59463623
Well it’s like I always say, if you’re not instantly good at something why bother, right?
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>>59462157
> Pokemon vs Yugioh
Imagine Ash's aura become so strong that its warp around his body like flame that protect him from Magic, curses, psychic power , hex, brain washing, magical cursed item and deflect them back. In other word, if anybody tries to use mind crash of him or tries to turn him into a doll again then it will get deflect back at them. Furthermore Ash can use Aura to tap into his Keystone to unleash a burst of Mega Evolution Energy that makes all magical item useless.

Would this be too OP? Ash can still get hurt by brute force and material attacks from pokemon. I feel that the anime introduce the concept of Aura for Ash but did absolutely nothing with it.
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>>59463610
To add onto this >>59463623
After a year or two of writing regularly, you’re always going to cringe at your first story. You learn so much in the process of writing stories that it’s impossible to not have a bit of disappointment or even resentment with your earlier work. But every bit of that you have for earlier works, the better a writer it means you’ve become.
>>59463413
Halfway to 2k word Valhalla[/spoiler{
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>>59463241
My MC is pulling this move next chapter.
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>>59463646
Mind crush is a penalty game that both parties sorta agree to. It should bypass resistances.
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>>59463706
Not if somebody is a walking Imagine-breaker. If Ash can send out burst of mega evolution energy by taping into his Key stone to nullify magical object than it will make the Millennium Puzzle powerless therefore Yugi losing their power.
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>>59463718
>a walking Imagine-breaker
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>>59463720
I don't remember Yugi having Aura Break ability, In fact he does not have most of the power death battle gave him.
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>>59463718
That's not very fair then. If I were someone who could start shadow games and had to deal with this, I'd probably start turning his friends and family into trading cards to blackmail him into a fair game.
If he was able to undo that, I'd put the cards in a safe so if Ash does try to free them, they'd materialize inside the box and be crushed to death.
Feels like a Yugioh-esque plot.
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>>59463736
>That's not very fair then.
Yugi forcing people to shadow game where he cheats his way to victory was never fair to begin with. At least Ash having the ability to nullify Shadow Game would force him to play fairly.
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Is there any pokemon fanfic that's set earlier in recent history. I mean like 1960s maybe, pokeballs haven't come out but will soon, trainers still use whips like in the original gen 1 sprites, your "pokedex" is a 100+ page ring binder, there's no pokecenter instant healing machines. In games you always meet these old trainers that look like grandpas and it makes me wonder what an oldschool pokemon trainer would be like within the pokemon world.
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>>59463765
Pokeballs being a recent invention in Hisui (and likely the Japan-equivalent regions at large) indicate they were probably widespread by the 60s. But as for your actual question, I’m mot familiar with those timed fics, but if I ever finish my WIP, I’ll likely write out one that takes place in the Pokemon world equivalent of 1969.
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>>59463646
Huh, for once I think your idea is decent enough and possible as a natural step with age since he can (or AU Ash anyways) touch ghosts and share senses
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>>59463830
That moron doesn't even care about writing his SI fantasy, just the validation of the idea.
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>>59463832
I know but cool ideas are cool, like Pidgey-sama and gust or crippling Sabrina, no rape tho, that's the worst a writer can do to earn more readers.
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>>59463646
Ash literally gets
>turned into a pikachu by a witch
>possessed by an ancient spirit
>separated from his body casually by ghosts

Where are these resistances you speak of? Only downside to Ash is you can't Raigeki him
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>>59463814
Call it cope but the Hisui pokeballs are honestly some dogshit lazy excuse to have pokeballs in the ancient past because GF didn't want to invent a new mechanic and it retcons gen 1 and 2 and I'm pretty sure in gen 5 there's a dude that just straight tells you they didn't have pokeballs when he was young so there is no consistent interpretation in any game or anime or manga or any other material.

I think it's more interesting to simply say that they were a somewhat recent invention. Like the tech for them may have existed for a few decades but before they became mass-producible and socially acceptable the only time you'd see one was with a scientist working on them in a lab. You could then tie this in with apricornballs, maybe people pioneers started making these bootleg balls that were out there but not very popular again perhaps because of the social stigma.

I can imagine people complaining about that pokeballs aren't ethical or moral or like how in our world because of globalisation our local biodiversity has increased but our global biodiversity has decreased because of what we're doing to species distribution; like should you even be able to capture onix's and take them away when at most before pokeballs only people who lived in mountain villages would use them because they live with them in rocky areas.

I wouldn't mind writing it but I just can't think of a character that would be able to interact with all these issues and be interesting without making it seem like some fictional essay.
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>>59463646
Yeah, this >>59463844
You probably want this
https://rwby.fandom.com/wiki/Aura (fuck, I hate RWBY) which would help with the whole "Rocket grunt tanking a hyperbeam to the face" if you're into that
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>>59463861
>Ancient past
>The late 19th century
Okay but to not be snarky, Pokemon canon contradicts itself on the matter (what a surprise). But if that's the basis of what you want to write, totally go for it. It's going to be hard to find a fic with your specific interpretation on the matter (and I doubt there'll be any new ones made thanks to Legends Arceus) unless you write it yourself.
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>>59463765
>>59463861
But would Pokemon still be called Pocket Monsters when you can't have them in your pocket?
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>>59463895
They shrink even without pokéballs so yes, you can still carry them in your pockets
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>>59463867
>Mettle?
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>>59463895
...I guess they'll just be regular monsters.
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>>59463915
Regmon don't sound as attractive as Pokemon
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>>59463861
How would you explain Foongus and Amoongus species adapting their biology to look like a PokeBall in over half a century?
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>>59463937
SV Pokedex entry says this:
>There is a theory that the developer of the modern-day Poké Ball really liked Foongus, but this has not been confirmed.
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>>59463937
Possible explanations
1. Highly adaptive species, maybe they can easily change pigmentation in their caps
2. There was some sort of genetic bottleneck or somehow the gene for that sort of pattern just became the only one left in the Amoongus population. In the past they had more patterns
3.It's a coincidence
4.The guy who invented pokeballs was inspired by Amoongus ambush tactics so the Amoongus actually came first
5.Dialga/Palkia/Arceus extra-dimensional time-travel shitpost
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>>59463237
>if guns exist they must be instantly lethal to everything!
Nuh. Giovanni got domed by a 50 cal and his pounding migraine got better with a good night's rest. Gyrados got its eye pierced by an antimaterial rifle and the eye fully healed the next day. A tomahawk missile blew up at Ghetsis' speech and other than a mangled arm Ghetsis and everyone else with a strong pokemon team was okay.
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>>59463844
Have you read my post ? I said Ash's aura "became" strong , not it was already strong. In my story, aura is something grows with experience and age.

For example, Ash was brainwashed on OS series yet he reveal to have resistance to mind control on BW series.
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>>59463196
Guns are very much used by poachers looking to get Donphan ivory. Where do you think amulet coins come from? That's right, poachers shooting millions of meowth just to harvest their head coins and satisfy the pokeworlds insatiable greed.
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>>59463902
aura gives people unique superpowers and one guy's power was called mettle and it made him autistic and that's literally all it does
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>>59463998
>Where do you think amulet coins come from?
Pay Day residual
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>>59464000
>and it made him autistic and that's literally all it does
Ironwood?
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>>59463998
>Where do you think amulet coins come from?
Bottle caps
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>>59463646
Yugi won bro move on
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>>59464088
Yugi won
Ash won
Atem lost
It is that shrimple
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>>59462739
I'm getting pretty close to finishing Mahogany 10, so 8 should be up by Saturday at the latest.
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Is FFN dead?
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Might as well be.
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>>59464032
yeah that guy
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>>59464404
Dying, I'd recommend using your downloader of choice to save the fics you like. Even if the author is around and moving it to AO3.
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>>59464410
Any recommended downloaders?
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>>59464425
I use fichub since Calibre can freak out when attempting to download from FF.
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>>59464389
I’m hoping to have the PoPT double chapter finished by Friday, so we’ll see who wins out.
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>>59464425
https://fichub.net/
I use this one
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>>59464410
I will keep that in mind and procrastinate on doing so.
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>>59463993
>he reveal to have resistance to mind control on BW series.
you mean this?
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>>59465102
retard aura
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>>59465102
I mean when Lysandre tried to brainwash Ash to be his Messiah
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>>59464410
Is there a downloader by tag? I want to download all the pokemon fics with ocs because that's 280 pages of fics instead of almost 4k pages
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>>59464410
FFN is dying? Or are you referring to its gradual decline due to the owners doing the bare minimum to maintain it.
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>>59465369
nta but I think he is, the site it literally failing. It kind of goes hand in hand with a decreasing users/viewership as well.
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>>59465469
I've not really noticed it but I only go there for fanfics and reviews not much else. I consider Ao3 pretty shit because of the tag abuse which makes tags pretty much worthless, it would improve if they limited tags and forced people to label their shit properly. It's also inundated with worthless gay smut.



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