why did the owl flop?
>>59463701It is a mystery.
>>59463708I mean he's faster than the other two
>pokken>regional forme>still pops up in marketing from time to timeit's doing fine
>>59463701Because no amount of relentless shilling from GF and TPC could overcome how ugly it is. And with Greninja (also hideous) they were at least smart enough to make it the most popular archetype of its trio. They put Decidushit up against an idol and a wrestler and were shocked when it flopped.
>>59463701Mixed attackers were a mistake
>>59463701Curse of Piplup. Never let the first form of your line become the face of it, the final member becomes an afterthought.It happened to the penguin.It happened to the otter.It happened to the owl.
>59463712>he
>>59463712Wow, what a great benefit that is. Lmao
>>59463754Empoleon was good at one point though. Its current issue is that Garchomp exists.
>>59463754Happened to the croc too.
>>59463701Why did Incineroar flop
Sceptile and Decidueye are proof that the rule of cool is a delulu.Sceptile also shows that the Speed stat can only do so much thus not being everything.
>>59463866What? If anything they reinforce it. Despite being mechanically garbage their designs are well-liked.
>>59463866>Sceptile also shows that...Sceptile shows that you need FUCKING MOVES to accomplish anything. They still refuse to give it FUCKING MOVES. I'm not talking about just shit for it's turd Mega, I'm meaning period. Sceptile has an unbelievably shallow pool despite being a starter
>>59463931And a shit typing, and a shit hidden ability.
>>59463856Because amiibos aren't aimed at children and the manchild smashfag collectors aren't pokémonfags.
>>59463708Give Victory Dance or Thousand Arrows
>>59463708Is this the single worst stat spread among the starters? I feel like even meganium's is better
>>59463856Oh no no no no Baracat sisters
>>59464020On its own? Yeah, probably. It gets double-whammy’d by its shit hidden ability too.
>>59464031>long reachGrim. I mean it's not totally useless, but with stats like those like you need an ability that's better than niche
Can save it by giving it a Mega that adds 50 to Attack and 50 to Speed with Grassy Surge
>>59464079Only shillmons get that
>>59464079I think just letting it have decent stats + Stakeout would be even funnier. Give it an intention of being scary to switch out or pivot against. It would also kind of do something to Spirit Shackle?
Buff the shit outta Long Reach to where every move works like Pursuit in still hitting if they switch out (& maybe do 1.5× more damage too idk) while giving Spirit Shackle some ACTUAL use in trappingPhysical Grass will always fucking suck, not without Tinted Lens/shillmon faggotry
>>59463856>that>flop
>>59463740with mixed attackers, unless you have a very high BST to work with (see: iron valiant, pseudo legendaries) or an ability to compensate for a mediocre stat (blaziken's speed boost) you're going to have issues with power, survivability, speed, and likely more than one of thosejust like everything else in pokemon, you can do anything, but not everything
>>59464189both can get kicked from Smash honestly
>>59464090getting a Mega isn't special anymore
>>59463740/thread
>>59463708>attack 107>sp. attack 100lmao
>>59464235>anymore
>>59464144The pursuit ability is actually great but it doesn't really synergize with spectral arrow...unless the ability doesn't mess with moves' secondary effects, meaning spectral arrow would then still trap the opponentIn which case it becomes kino
