is it really that bad?
>>59468719Yes
Main game? Its alright.DLC? Hate it.
It's worse than PLA.The only thing better than the previous title is the focus on the battles. Everything else is bad, from the writing, to the DLC, to the ugly city, etc. AND it feels really really lazy>Volcanion battle happens in a fucking BLACK room. EVERYTHING is black.>Every action (e.g. your character hands the NPC something) is a fade to black action>Scene showing you wake up from your bed shows you wearing your outside clothing (why bother right?)>Barely any connection the XY character (not even the gym leader of that very same city)>Very lackluster exploration>Campaign is a cycle of the same action over and over and over again
>>59468720>Yesfpbp
>>59468719Why are we wasting a thread on this? There are so many threads of 'is/why x game actually bad' and the OP brings nothing new to the table (or nothing at all in this case).I'd rather a weirdo schizo thread of size mechanics or type analysis or anything than another another another one of these nothing threads.
>>59468733shut up
>>59468719Not worse than the average Pokeslop game.
>>59468729>Volcanion battle happens in a fucking BLACK room. EVERYTHING is black.Kek, I forgot about that one
>>59468729>Every action (e.g. your character hands the NPC something) is a fade to black actionLegends Arceus has this too and it's even worse
>>59468733>Wasting a threadI would rather this than another boring as fuck gooner threadWe're stuck talking about the same shit until something new happens like Winds and Waves next yearAlso, shut up
>>59468814It's true that every Switch Pokémon game abuses the fade to black to avoid actions.
>>59468719it's bad, yesI had fun tho
>>59468719Y E S, never want to replay this pos ONE CITY game ever again, this is Game Freak at their laziest
There are some areas where they cut corners but I enjoyed it for what it was. I can see why some wouldn't like it but the hate is little overblown, imo.
>>59468719no this place is just full of autistic people who have a hate boner for pokemon but have too much sunk cost to stop keeping up with the series
>>59468719only the DLC
>>59468719Worse than PLA? Yes, easilyWorse than SV? Not sure desu
>>59468733It's paltards. They're infesting this board but jannies fail to act
>>59469936I mean. Nearly all people who like Pokemon, the IP, and the original games, got frustrated with the laziest, most extortionate, rent-seeking refusals to innovate. They did nothing to make the games better for at least 15 years? Or to realize they had an audience they could segment (childrens, teens, adults)-- and they still fall short of realizing that.Gamefreak has not done anything meaningful with the IP in a long time. And worse, those of us who lived through Snap and Arena, all knew they were just holding out on making a GOOD pokemon game. They still really are. If they invested anything close to a serious company on making a good game, we would have some awesome titles.We do not. Palworld is the only thing that might force them to step up to the plate. And with Palworld, other games will follow.Azure Dreams, a 1997 game, already showed a lot of cool ideas that Persona somewhat imitated. But there is a lot of fresh ground to explore here, and it would be nice to see Pokemon and Nintendo at least contribute to some of it.
i think it's fun and relaxing to playwild zones suck though it would have been nice if they at least had areas right outside lumiose to catch pokemon inthe whole concept of the game taking place within the city alone is disappointing and dumb
I loved the main game but the dlc sucks dick. I regret buying it.
it was fun in the way triple a games are. you get bored after a bit and move on, not too memorable.
>>59468729>It's worse than PLA.Playing that one right after putting 250 hours in ZA and completing an Alpha living dex. Catching is unironically much easier in ZA despite the game being more centered on battles and you don’t get knocked down every five seconds when an Alpha spots you which is micd. PLA does have better map variety but the visuals are so bad it almost hurts to look at and even on the Switch 2 distant flying Pokemon turn into a slideshow. PLA also randomly plays music like maybe 5% of the time and you need to wait 40 minutes to see many of the rare Pokemon in distortions, spread out across 5 areas. Overall I think ZA is much more polished and gives you more content with the DLC included but PLA has some stuff going for it like the bigger spaces and being able to get trade items so you don’t need to go on Discord or reddit to trade for certain Pokemon like Milotic and all the Pumpkaboo size evolutions in ZA. Hopefully the new Galar one is a mix between the two in all the right ways.
ZA was shit
Under halfway through and I was bored. The game is just shallow and the battle system isn't engaging enough to be worth making it 85% of the game.
>>59468719It feels like a tech demo. Very little to explore, the city is ugly and boring to traverse, fighting itself is a massive step down compared to what we're used to. It's a shame because real time combat sounds fun, but they spent very little effort towards implementing it so you just end up spamming offensive moves and waiting on CDs like some gachashit game and that's kinda it, moving around is suboptimal
>>59468719No. It's one of the better switch pokemon titles. If you can tolerate modern pokemon, you'll tolerate Z-A just fine.The problem is the switch titles are objectively terrible games. Gamefreak has really flubbed it this entire console generation. Being good for a modern pokemon game still means it's a garbage game.
>>59468719Main game is pretty good for the most partDLC is stinky though
they keep holding your hand through the shitty story so I hate it
It was ugly, terrible to play, and boring. The story was not only bad it didn't even feel like a Pokemon game. Not to mention there's weird plot threads that never go anywhere, nothing burger CEO with evil vibes, and the out of control wild areas being placed all over the city making the city unfit for people. Like seriously the whole 'lets force more Pokemon into the city that causes them to randomly go mega' seems like an evil plot. The whole thing just randomly gets sidelined and forcefully connected to the Eiffel tower coming alive and turning evil like some monument mythos shit because AZ somehow built a magical AI 2000 years ago. Like none of this shit is believable or makes any sense, the whole game is just another fucking heaping load of trash to the legacy that is Kalos, truly the worst fucking region. But it had some good characters so retards will say it was good.
Reminder that the playable area game of this game is so small you get from one end of the city to the other end in just over a minute.
>>59472085>ignores verticality to complain about the map size.I understand you probably don't like parkour much.
>>59472088>You can explore the roofs of each building so the playable area is totally like doubled, ignore that almost every roof area looks the exact same and there's nothing to actually do on the roofs or any reasons to explore them or go anywhere near them beyond plot requirements
>>59468719It's its not even bad its closer to unfinished
A-Z dying off screen for some random reason (I presume cheap tears, themes and such) was the cherry on top of the pile of shit. Absolutely fucking hilarious. Just a random cut to his grave post credits, fuck it, who cares.
>>59470042It's not even early access tier
>>59469936I hate Palworld I think it's spiritually AI soulless trendslop that appeals to gun ball gamers but this is cope.There's been threads like this for every game for years before Palworld was even convinced of. PLZA is just bad.
>>59468719one of the worst game made in the last 25 years
>>59472228That scene is the best evidence the DLC was originally meant to be an included epilogue. He comes back for a final chat in Darkrai's dream.
>>59473200when you only play pokemon games
>>59468719ZA > PLATired of PLA fags that game was garbage
>>59473206>when you only play pokemon gamespeople who only play pokemon are the ones who think it's a good game
>>59473208PLA clears it's ZA and it's not even close. It faced the exact same harsh pre-release criticisms stemming from a good awful reveal trailer however that all got memory holed when it came out because it was actually a good game. People are still ripping on ZA months later because it's genuinely irredeemable trash.
>>59468719better than what the doomers sayworse than what the fanboys say
It's terrible. Awful control decisions. And way too hard in the DLC. Kept dying. Gave up and won't play again
ZA combat got stale and repetitive after 2 hours and don't get me started on the city
>>59468719no
>>59473201>she didn't do the side mission where you go into the dreamscape to talk to an old dead guy to give a letter to his old alive wife before meeting AZ in the dreamscape to talk to him about his passing>she thinks as a result of this, the DLC should have been an epilogue despite Teraleak already confirming it was always intended to be DLC, but L: Z-A was supposed to be released an entire year earlier to facilitate this
>>59468719No? it's one of the best pokemon games in recent history.
>>59468719it was garbage
