Queenly Majesty EditionPokémon Champions is a free to play online battle simulator available on Switch and mobile. It features ranked, casual and private battles for both singles and doubles, and will be used for VGC tournaments in 2026.>NewsEnter HAJ1MAR1G1FT for a free 100 Quick Coupons and CHAMP10N for a free Machamp.>Resources and useful linksCommunity Tournaments usage data: https://pikalytics.com/Ladder usage data: https://pokechamdb.com/enNew Player Guide(NEW PEOPLE READ THIS):https://rentry.org/pcg-guide (now taking suggestions and feedback)Anon made guide for brand new players to make a viable team with the starting pokemon: https://teamsheet.gg/t/sample-beginner-reg-b-vl3698Quick FAQ>Do I need my own Pokémon to play?No, the game features a recruitment system, but transferring from Home is recommended to save time and resources.>What makes the game so much more accessible than before?All aspects of a Pokémon are customizable with VP, a currency earned simply by playing the game. IVs are also removed.Ask in the thread if you want any specific Pokémon, and someone will respond.>Is there single player content?No.>Do I need a Nintendo Online subscription?No.>What's the starter pack?US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 Teammate Tickets (recruit Pokemon without using VP), 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music. Only available on Switch for now.>Is anything locked behind a paywall?So far everything gameplay relevant is also purchasable with VP. Only E-Floette require ZA transfer.>/pcg/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread):https://pastebin.com/d2FJZdPhPrevious: >>59464154
post team to win all
>>59473691>VGC was killed by this flopHoly kek
Shit DEAD Game
>>59473803I'm sure the majority will return in a few days with the new season
>>59472430Lightning Rod Sceptile?Would Ychu's Focus Blast still be enough to kill it?
if you think about it, while they're intended to break stall, critical hits are in a way an indirect buff to bulky mons and a nerf to hyper offensive onesa heavy attacker is already specced to OHKO most of its main targets, so getting a crit doesn't help thembut getting a crit on something that's normally assumed to be a 2HKO can completely destroy someone's gameplan, and the longer a mon sticks around the more chances they have to crit
I've been stuck in singles this season but finally made it to Masters with this team. It's really straightforward and easy to use, and it typically wins 3 out of 4 games. >The usual opener is Kangaskhan. She has Scrappy so don't Mega if you think they're going to switch in to a Ghost type. After that, Last Resort spam until you have to switch. >Then I go Gengar. Mess with the opponent by using Disable, then either heckle with Shadow Ball or Destiny Bond and take their second Pokémon down. >Then last is Hydreigon. It hardly gets outsped, just a great Pokémon overall. >There's a light Rain mode with Pelipper and Archaludon, >Metagross is a great generalist/alternative to Kangaskhan. It can be predictable, but a lot of fun to use and a lot of variety.
>>59473895it's more like a bell curvefrail HOers don't mind crits because they always die in one hit/focus sash anywaymedium 2HKO level bulk HATES critsbig bulk doesn't mind again because they survive anyway
>>59473895There are more interactions between hits than “dead” and “not dead”
>>59473896needs more protectdraco is also negative synergy on arch who likes to stay on the field boosting spatk/def
>>59473932I tend to bring Arch in late game, try to tank a hit and get that defense boost and then just take a big swing, but I'm going to consider other options. Thanks for the tip
>>59473827in a few days...? they added 20 fucking pokémon and nothing more until september. this is ridiculous.
>>59473827Doubt, unless we're getting some new mons/megas/items
Ychu also destroys sand cause of Focus Blast if paired with anything with Aqua Jet or Mach punch for excadril
>have Farigiraf out against Rai-Y and an opposing Farig, have the option of switching in Mega Crabominable or Sinistcha>wait I have the perfect strategy for this>send in Crab>Helping Hand + Mach Punch the Raichu>it occurs to me what is going to happen as soon as I lock in the moves>forfeit out of shame>the Helping Hand animation still goes off
is it better altaria or drampa if I want to make use of cloud 9?
>>59474018Altaria. Has more utility and better bulk.
not being able to prankster will o wisp or encore gambit and ttar is so goddamn annoying
yo Mega Dragonite fucking sucks
>>59472784a lot of people know what it does already.50/50 chance you die because you spent a turn using chlorophyll or you mega and kill something.
>>59473691>opponent leads with politoad>perish traps me>dragon tail his politoed >he switches in acrch >dragontails mewhy?
>>59474056just do it with non-prankster they're both slow as balls
>>59473895Crits most often matter with SE coverage moves and non-SE STAB moves, and are by nature more likely to occur with spread moves.Sinistcha immediately springs to mind, but few other bulky mons have movepools like this.
>>59474114another one in the column for hating that godforsaken cup
>>59473895I'd like a policy item that boosts a pokemons defenses by 2 if hit by a crit
>>59473895It takes a while to get going but protect the king with mega slowbro works surprisingly well, definitely much better suited for Shell Armor than mega scolipede, I like aromatisse as a trick room setter to prevent encore from whim, oranguru is also great next to it for double boosting, seen people simple beam it in base with audino but looks harder to get going and other trick room mons are usually better overall
20 mons added in 5+ months.They aren't even trying.
>>59474156>>59473950I imagine it's something like a 2-year plan situation that has literally been stretched in to a 10-year plan because they intend to support Champions through at least gens 10 and 11.
Fucking hate this game. Switch up my team and go on a losing streak. Found a Gyrados with Thunder Wave and want to drive into traffic. 200,000 faggots in Master Rank cunts. Coin flip garbage fucking trash. Hate hate hateAnd then the faggot captcha on top
>>59474156a lot of regular players would've quit if all 1,000+ pokemon were in the game with all the regional gimmicks all at once.
Ceruledge is like the grim reaper taking out one mon at a time with Bitter Blade, opposing mons get nervous about their time being up
>>59474180You completely missed the point that was made, congrats.
>>59474179
>>59473932Protect is rarely worth it in singles from what I find.
>Try Incineroar>He fucking sucksAttack stat feels worthless on this thing
i hate mawile sucker punch mindgames even more than gambit
>>59474195i didn't even read that guy is playing singles, my bad
>>59474195It has its uses as a stall tool, like chip damage or leftovers, or trying to wait out TR.
>>59474196My experience too, way too clunky to use and only time I ever have trouble with it is the perish trap shite but my alola ninetales has encore for a reason
Moves costing 250VP is insane. I hate the VP economy for training
>>59474196It's not really supposed to attack. The standard Incineroar has a Careful nature with Fake Out and Parting Shot as your main tools. You want to keep cycling it out with Parting Shots so you can keep refreshing your Fake Out and maybe occasionally take a swing with Flare Blitz.
>>59474213play more?
>>59474196He's not really an attacker.He's mostly an intimidate/fake out/parting shot machine that occasionally attacks with flare blitz. Even with no attack investment a 120 BP move off a base 115 attack stat can still take meaty chunks out of unresisted pokemon.Then his 4th attack slot is a bit of a flex spot and fuck does he have an annoying movepool. I've seen fucking roar on incineroar. Who does that? What psychopath does that?
>>59474228>pokemon named incineroar>it roarsno fucking way
>>59473857It is. I've killed Sceptile a plenty when I used my own Raichu Y. Mega Sceptile just doesn't work.
>>59474269It's faster than Raichu so you'd need speed control or to catch it on a switch.
>>59474278I had a Ychu tank a hit from a m-scept before and I can't tell if its just weak as hell or someone who had no idea how EVs work.
Fucking hate this ass game, it would be great if those fucking gooks put any team building resources into this shit. Instead have to do research on AIDS ad websites with outdated metas.
>>59474215>>59474228How are you supposed to use Parting Shot when he’s incredibly slow
>>59474317Anon, slow pivots are a good thing.
Alola ninetales helped me rapidly climb from 1650-1900, much better than the inconsistent mamoswine as the garchomp slayer
>>59474321how does one climb "rapidly" at that MR?i had a 7 win streak in the 1500s and barely moved a hundred
>>59474283How? Isn’t Ychu made of literal glass?
>can't even organize you're pokemon box
>>59474196I will never play with that ugly baracat
>>59474317He's got 95/90/90 defenses and intimidates on entry.Its a deceptively tanky pokemon and almost exclusively gets run with sitrusThen it slow pivots to switch in the main threat safely while debuffing that problem pokemon on your side of the field. And it comes back in later with another intimidate and another fake out.
>>59474283It will survive a timid MSceptile's EP, if you have some HP investment.But Focus Blast has no chance of KOing Sceptile back, you max around 75%.
>enemy incin enters and activates annhilape defiant, then parting shots it to activate it twice again>tyranitar knock off crit kills it before i can do anythingnever punished
I feel like a lot of people are using MSceptile wrong, or just bringing it into the wrong situations. Probably it's best use is being paired with Jolteon spec-ed for speed and having EVs to be slightly slower than it so it can absorb the Discharge before attacking. The rest of the EVs can be put into attack and bulk so it can survive at least one reasonably big hit.
>>59474423And to compliment the meme strat thanks
>>59474420Scarfed RotomH is classic.MSceptile just plays very linearly and it's tough to position correctly if your opponent gains speed control. For example, your opponent leads Whims and Garchomp into scRotomH and MSceptile. It's an immediate disadvatage if you do the thing Sceptile wants to do.
>>59474430Well that's more of a pre-battle sense thing. If you see they are able to gain speed advantage uncontested DO NOT bring Sceptile, at least not up the front. To your hypothetical, I have A-ninetales and Thick Fat Piloswine on my Sceptile team for those exact scenarios.
sand niggers we are SO back!https://youtu.be/TBKW1nuyGNA?is=Di3Plk5s_Frtz8rE
So what Pokemon and items are people expecting to see or hoping for in the September update?I think Ursaluna appeared in the trailers, so good chance it might come.
>>59474565FREE MY NIGGA POLIWRATH AND ASS VEST
>>59474565need my ub brosnaganedel, blacephelon and i know it's not a ub but melmetal are some of my favoritesi'd like crobat and togekiss too
>>59474565TatsuDozo
>>59474565ultra beasts, low level legendaries (gen 2 dogs, regis, etc.)
>mega chomp z has base 170 speedmy froslass as a check to garchomp found dead in the fucking water its over as soon as this thing drops
>>59474607i meant base 150 idk why i typed that but it's still over
>>59474611run scarfed weed cat.
>>59474635> Meowscarada missed Triple AxelGG ig
>>59474196>why does the best support mon in the game not deal big dmgare you retarded?
Need a SOVL check on my team:MausholdMega ScizorMega BlastoiseSinatcha CeruledgeGlimmora
have the upcoming new pogeymans leaked
>>59474056they both literally have 20 speed
>>59474670cringesoulcringemega cringecringemega cringe.
>>59474670cringe based cringe ultracringe based based
>>59473691WHAT NEW POKEMON DID THEY ADDD
>want to get to Champion Rank for my shiny M-Garde>I'm not strong enoughFeels bad, meng.
>>59474679pfffffffthahahahaaa
>>59474679They just added Salamence, Amoongus & Indeedee
my only win after a humungous loss streak is a fucking bot just kill me.
>>59474319Well fuck if I know anything about this unfun hell game
>>59474721have you tried winning? it's fun.
Made it to master ball rank each other and think I don’t care anymore.Getting hard stuck in MB4 with the bullshit they currently have in the game. Made it to top 90,000 and the autism gets radioactive to continue.
>>59474727It’s a coin flip and I hate it. Feels like gambling with no reward
>>59474607Scarfed Garchomp outspeeds. Chomp eat chomp world.
Any reccomendations for team, always find it difficult to deal with Chomp, Legion and Glimora. Team seems to deal with Tailwind/Trickroom/Weather well.
>>59474729what's so random about Zard Y Champions? he clicks heat wave after tailwind and you lose.
>>59474741>using regular typhlosion over husiuan typhlosion>using typhlosion outside of sun/helping hand shenanigans >using typhlosion ever
>>59474729>coin flipthis is a cope. intuition and game knowledge are both skills that can be learned only through getting out there
>magic bounce works on encorewow I really hate espeon now
>>59474766I play the game, learn nothing except I can’t deal with tailwind / trick room / weather.I look at the game, it has shit team building and team testing resources.I look online, and can’t find good information
lead whimsicott is overrated fake out baitsaving whimsicott to suddenly switch in right as the opponent protects or uses a status move is true evil
>>59474783>I play the game, learn nothing except I can’t deal with tailwind / trick room / weather.skill issue >I look at the game, it has shit team building and team testing resources.cope>I look online, and can’t find good informationmajor skill issue Keep going, you're making excellent progress.
>>59474786People are barely beginning to forget how tough Covert Cloak made shutting Whims down
>>59474786Fake Out gets owned by Protect, so much so that most Fake Outers I see are just nuking the least likely Fake Out target. Then it becomes a double protect to stop the FO. Then that becomes a giraffe to stop the FO entirely. Then that becomes a double nuke into the giraffe to stop the giraffe. Then that becomes a turn one protect giraffe. So basically every time you saw someone talk about or do a turn one protect Farigiraf, they went through that whole metagame I just described to you to get to that point.
>>59474319Speaking of slow pivots, they ARE going to add Teleport back to the game, right?
STOP DOING MEGA BLASTOISEI'M TIRED OF SEEING IT!
I wish they'd add a Pokedex feature with challenges to get more VP so that the daily free recruits don't feel entirely useless
>>59474805I wish so badly they'd give claydol the hoenn shitmon treatment and give it a good ability or at least a recovery moveit wants so badly to be a bulky support mon but the typing is so bad for that and needs help, plus the no recovery thing
what's the deal with all the special attacking garchomps all the sudden
>>59474670>MausholdSOUL>Mega ScizorCRINGE>Mega BlastoiseCRINGE>SinistchaSOUL>CeruledgeWaifu>GlimmoraCRINGE
>>59474893>sinistcha soulgreen liquid hands types this post
>>59474390He knew the seed, and was setting you up for disappointment
>>59474579>>59474599>UBGAWDSI get it, we need Niggadel to solve the Char/Flowette problem
>>59474670BasedSOVLMAXBased41% yourselfBasedCRINGE
>>59474698HOLYZ A S E DASED
>>59474741>fartplosionFound the issue
>>59474890The children yearn for Lando IAnd also there’s no assault vest so it one shots a lot of annoying shit with no intimidate counterplay
>>59474786Hot take: fake out is overrated
>SCARF kingambitI swear to fucking christ
>play mono-ghost >opponent team has meowscarada, greninja, incineroar, and kingambitI know I'm a hypocrite for complaining about this while running a gimmick team but genuinely why would anyone be running this?the other two on the team weren't dark types either so it wasn't even a monotyper, just an extremely unfortunate weirdo encounter
>>59474953it's quite valuable for non-tailwind teams, either preventing a fast threat from taking out a middling speed nuke before it can attack or preventing doubling into a TR setter
>>59475008oh and not to mention it becomes way stronger with encore support since that heavily punishes turn 1 protect to avoid it
>>59474995>3 starters and a sucker punch machine It’s a coincidence they’re all dark type, that guy probably just likes them and didn’t think too much of it You know how they say every pokemon is someone’s favorite? Shit I was running Anger Point Taurus the other night, it’s just fun with the little monster dudes
>>59474995Gambit + shartroar + proteanoid is pretty good, guess he wanted both the physical and special protean options on his team.
The 'tism has been satiated.
i swear gholdengo dodges heat waves I desperately need to hit it with like twice as often as any other pokemon maybe I just feel that way because looking at it pisses me off
Any good mega clefable counters? this piece of shit is a lazy as fuck choice
Hate this fucking game. Doubles is boring bullshit and I can’t be bothered with Singles ‘tismAnd I really don’t want to go back to ZA with those mind numbing side missions they thought were good to pad gameplay.
>>59474227For every 1 win in Ranked (no VP any other way) I can change 1 move! That’s horseshit>>59474364The VP economy and piss poor options in this “game” are something else. No Pokédex, move dex, can’t organize the box, have to travel to hidden sub menus to look salt player percentages.And you can’t even throw money at the game to make it better, it’s just deliberately gimped design.Whoever designed this game is a brain dead retard
>>59475142padding gameplay with gameplay isn't padding, it's just gameplay
>>59473691>picrelthat artist has a really fucking hot male mawile design.
>>59474890Megachomp has reasonable Special Attack
>>59474890Prepping for the Z Mega
Holy shit GameFreak didn’t even add the box count when returning Pokémon in the ranch. The game is just a series of poorly thought out menu boxes - the only thing they optimized are for phone screens.Deleted the app, what a disgrace.
>>59475196One of the early things people complained prerelease was the boxes in Champions was 5 Pokemon per row instead of the standard 6 like the main games and the size of a full team
>>59474890>32 Atk Life Orb Garchomp Dragon Claw vs. 2 HP / 0 Def Garchomp: 187-221 (101 - 119.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO>1 SpA Life Orb Garchomp Draco Meteor vs. 2 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 187-221 (101 - 119.4%) -- guaranteed OHKODeal with Rough Skin chip and play around intimidate, or take a 10% chance to miss and a stat drop you dont care about. Pick your poison.
>>59475379>32 SpA Garchomp-Mega Earth Power vs. 32 HP / 4 SpD Archaludon: 198-234 (100.5 - 118.7%) -- guaranteed OHKOI’m now wizard chomp pilled
I'm soooo boooored
>>59475424genies in a few days brother
>>59475454wait, has it been 3 seasons since the last batch of pokémon, already?
lol i love playing against basc every fucking game!haha le 200bp delete move xDDDDD!!!
>>59475669Bro just use sucker punch lmao
I was retarded and get the annual Pokémon Champions and Pokémon Home passes.Cancelled both because it’s clear that GameFreak are just absolute Jewish whores that are taking money for fucking nothing in return.Home is the most egregious. The free version is 30 Pokémon, absolutely useless.And Tuesday they’ll probably have 5 new items are 3 new Pokémon in Champions.Fucking over it. I like the idea of competitive Pokémon but of course GameFreak are just complete fuck ups and Champions is just getting fed horseshit. Who cares about next gen even
>>59475733Umm nigga who asked?
>>59475733This is a cope, if the game is constantly changing then you have an excuse not to get good. It's easier to bitch than play though, right?
>>59475741There’s too much bullshit to make playing the game enjoyable. If I’m going to be nickel and dimed by the game for changing moves and stats, and experimenting like they supposedly want players to do, I’ll just play on a fucking spreadsheet.I have over 130k VP so it’s not even the point. Just a stifling, unfun experience. Fucking DoTA is better at attracting new players than this shit
>>59475765I haven't had an issue with VP once as a free user and I retrain my Pokemon pretty regularly. Maybe the game just isn't for you if you're so incapable of having fun with it. I'm sure though that when they do add whatever new items or Pokemon, you're still going to be bitching.
>>59475785Yeah I’m probably done. Got to master rank 4 these first four seasons and just getting angry now trying to play. Released all my Champions and have to release all my Home Pokémon next. All the best to everyone else.
>over 250 Pokémon in the game>battle the same 24 every single day
>>59475741Have you ever seen a live service game that added only a tiny portion of new content in 6 months survive?GF deserves its failure, it's not about "git gud" it's that they've decided to contain VGC in a dead game they haven't even laid out a plan for.
>>59475887The answer is that it's not a live service game.
>>59475900Even worse, it’s an autism dump. Guessing that about 90% of the people who’ve tried the free mobile version dropped after a few days of confused frustration at the menus and team building alone.
>>59475910It's not a casual-friendly game after all.
>>59475887This game has an obvious plan if you’ve played ranked Pokemon before it’s just disappointing they seemingly have no interest in doing anything else, it’s just wasted potential
>>59475945>the plan is obviousOkay, what's reg MC?Is it just the last 5~ megas that aren't legendaries or is it a proper sub-legendary format like reg F where they add a shitload of mons at once?Where do they go after MC? What's on the horizon, is it Z moves? Will Megas stay? When is tera?There is no plan that has been shared except when the next regulation is coming. That's also all the content that's available unless you feel compelled to pay for a fucking tribly and a jacket.
>>59475943>release a game on mobile, presumably trying to expand the player base>don’t do anything at all the keep the new player baseconfoundingly stupid that they just kind of released the game and didn’t bother with anything else.To improve at the game, they assume you’ll go to Pikalytics and watch Wolfey on YouTube. They have zero idea how to cultivate their own gaming environment.
>>59475959You'd think they could have a weekly battle scenario cooked up kind of like what is done in Chess where you have to solve for the win condition.Every other weekend they could come up with some gimmick tournament to entice people to try a mon or mechanic.There's just nothing, this game is pure wasted potential and it may as well be a retirement home for VGC as this pace of content will cause it to fade into obscurity.
>>59475733Home is like 5 bucks for 3 months though so it is fine by me for a short stint.
>>59475424.......same
>>59475733>And Tuesday they’ll probably have 5 new items are 3 new Pokémon in Champions.
>>59475977Definitely, the sheer laziness is what is finally making me mad enough to quit this game. They put *nothing* into it
>>59475991If they miraculously add the genies or anything remotely fun on Tuesday, there is still the poorly-thought-out-mind-numbing gacha to fight through.Oh gee did they think to refund any VP when you return Pokémon to the ranch? No, fuck you is the answer there
>>59475957The plan not being shared doesn’t mean there’s no plan. They’re going to progressively add more Pokemon and items to the mega format until we get to restricted just like every other game, it’s just lame they’re not doing anything beyond that and apparently are going to have zero cosmetic options not tied to paying a ridiculous $10
>>59476017It feels like a very cynical bait and switch from GameFreak.Champions is supposed to be this definitive competitive game, and it’s not doing anything better than Showdown, in fact in many ways it’s a worse Showdown.If all the information to play Champions needs a fucking web browser open, then why would I bother to keep playing Champions
>>59476017Do you trust your government to have a plan too?Sometimes there isn't a plan being shared because they know it's underwhelming.
Half the megas feel like useless gimmicks, and that’s supposed to be the draw of this year. Like why are Barbanacle and Emboar even in this game.
farigiraf's item is in a quantum state where it's always sitrus if you try to kill it but always mental herb if you taunt it
>kids game
Just saw an ad for this game. Is it like an official Pokémon Showdown but with restrictions to encourage you to pay?
>>59476186ye
>>59473691On thread theme:Been playing Doubles and my Runerigus blocked an opponent's Conkeldurr's Mach Punch with Queenly Majesty a couple matches ago.Had a really satisfying final match too for people who hate the Mega Staraptor + Whimsicott Charm combo.My opponent leads with the above, I lead with Runerigus and Stunfisk (saw it coming from a mile away). Trick Room + Protect from me. Close Combat is blocked. Next turn I switch Runerigus for Camerupt, predicting the Encore. M-Staraptor protects. Stunfisk uses Discharge and gets a little damage off on the Whimsicott. Opponent thinking...thinking...Eruption and Discharge clean the field (M-Staraptor impressively survives the Eruption without any defense boosts). Opponent resigns.
>>59475887Counterpoint; Character bloat is the difference between a timeless classic or nu battle pass slop. If this game released in its current form 10 years ago and never updated, there would still be die hards playing it today.
tailwind immediately updating the opponent partner's speed and making them go first trips me up so often, for some reason it's really unintuitive to me that it works that way and I forget about it
>>59475959>To improve at the game, they assume you’ll go to Pikalytics and watch Wolfey on YouTube. They have zero idea how to cultivate their own gaming environment.Yeah, that's how it has worked for the last 15 years. That's how it works for other e-sports. Hell that'a how it works for regular sports too since older players/competitors train the newer ones.
What's the designated place for feedback on Champions. I too have lots of complaints.
>>59476399I've lost too many games forgetting to protect on the last turn of tailwind
>flinching >missing attacks>crits>high and low damage rollsIf you're actually into competitive gaming, you should really play something else. Too much is left to chance in this game.
>>59476502It all bounces back in your favour balancing it at least, had many times where I got scammed out of a win by bs and the next game I scam the next opponent out of a fair game with rng going in my favor
Late game screens are always clutch and kino
>https://www.youtube.com/live/JvNI7aViwBg?si=yMpgTMrVvEk1ne_uour vp draft league is starting week 5 if anyone wants to take a peek
GL CLAMSY
how to make stunfisk work?
>>59476904which one?
>>59476909the regular one
i got shiny midnight Lycanroc from recruit what can i use him for
>>59476916>https://www.pikalytics.com/pokedex/gen9championsvgc2026regma/StunfiskMost people seem to run it in Sand teams. It has Fissure so you could put it next to Mega Hawlucha and Entrainment it.
>>59476920Sadly, midnight lycanroc is the worst of the formes. Maybe in a singles format under shed tail support or trick room doubles he can do stuff like spamming stone edge.
>>59476930nyo....
>>59476920>>59476930You could use it as a FEAR killer. Focus Sash, Endeavor, Accelerock
>>59476933it doesnt even get accelrock lol
>>59476934what the fuck
>>59476933about that....
>>59476904In Singles I found it works best as a lead against offensive teams. Paralyze, set up Rocks, get some damage in. Neuters the threat, then you can bring in a sweeper.In Doubles I use it as a bulky Trick Room attacker. I run a mono-Ground team and can spam Discharge all day and all night. It also gets access to some nice coverage.
>>59476930They totally fucked Midnight over in it's debut generation and haven't fixed it since. They gave Accelrock to the other two forms, but made "Counter" it's "signature move" and then didn't give it a very fat HP stat or a synergistic ability.They treated this mon almost as bad as Galarian Stunfisk.
somehow a torkoal + tailwind outspeed my adamant lycanroc with 162 speed, no after you from Vileplume or anything either. It had to have had Choice Scarf right? TR was not up
>>59476957What moves were used
>>59476960Eruption and then I WTFed and left
>>59476961Which Lycanroc? Midnight?
>>59476957maybe you missed the quick claw proc
>>59476963Dusk, I think the Torkoal was Modest with speed investment, the guys team was a fake TR team, he lead with Firafirig and Starraptor but the Farafirig had Life Orb and didnt set up TR and the Starraptor didnt Final Gambit and megaed + Tail Wind
>>59475733I don't understand what this meltdown is about. The game doesn't ask much of you. You do a ranch pull and one ranked match every day. It doesn't even care if you win or not. If they added everything at once you'd still complain that there's nothing to do.Do you people not understand how actually few Pokémon or items there are to add? There's 1000 Pokémon in existence, 500 not fully evolved trash you aren't actually going to use, 100 legendaries or other special categories. That leaves around 400 actually usable Pokémon. 200 Pokémon are currently in the game and they added around 40 last time. If they add 30 every 3 months they'll catch up in 2 years. That's nothing for a live service drip feed.
strength sap op
This is the team I've been using today. 9 wins 1 loss so far
>>59474319>>59474805Fuck Teleport, Chilling Reception + Regenerator for life. Safest switch outside of a slow Shed Tail
>>59476981Someone should draw Sinistcha sucking on Mega Staraptor, with Staraptor getting buffer and Sinistcha getting drunker
>>59476957modest tailwind scarf torkoal has over 200 speedshit like this just demonstrating how ridiculous tailwind DOUBLING speed is
Love rng cheesing vaxxie redditor metafags, bitch you aren't unlucky cause Light of Ruin missed azumaril, you are lucky I didn't call out your obvious 1st turn protect and belly drummed off rip after i fake outed your kingambit
>>59476988Respect for Kommo-O, might try something with mega audino and simple beam on it sometime
>play expertly>still lose because legion was in the backHaha loving every laugh, such a balanced pokemon.
>m-charizard, m-aerodactyl, kingambit, sylveon, incineroar, and basculegion team
>>59477081no garchomp?
>>59476904Snap Trap + Yawn sounds like a neat combo to enable set up sweepers
>>59477062But at least it doesn't get to use Last Respects as a lead, only water type Gigaton Hammer with recoil as the drawback
>>59477081After a certain point, you have to stop posting tired, tired recycled memes and ask yourself >ok, what can I do to beat the things that are giving me trouble?
>guaranteed to stay asleep for 1 turn>only 33% chance to wake up next turnSleep is so fucking retarded, theres no downside to just spamming this shit
>>59477122>https://www.smogon.com/dex/champions/types/grass/immune to sleep powder>https://www.smogon.com/dex/champions/abilities/insomnia/immune to sleep
how many times each type shows up among pokemon with at least 5% usage in champions (base forms of megas are not counted twice)
>>59477125>just bring a grass type to Mega Charizard + Venusaur or Insomnia Ariados brooooo
>>59477090Chomp doesn't set weather that gives him a 50% boost earthquake attack boost.
>>59477127i'm vindicated for feeling that dark types are somewhat out of control
>>59477131Try Mega Venusaur, retard-kun
>>59475669Take the lizardpill
>>59477167it gets 2HKO even with thick fat while Venusaur can just put its partner to sleep, what can it do back ?
>>59477202Maybe a Magic Bounce user like Espeon? Annihilape gets Vital Spirit. You can use a Sap Sipper such as Azumarill or Goodra.Garganacl can't be status'd. Overcoat on Kommo-o, Reuniclus or Forretress
>>59477223Lum and Chesto berries too
>>59477122The counter to sleep is it being a 75% chance. Everyone who wants to be a sleepfag does it for long enough and gets RNG losses enough times that they give up, so the universe evens it out. You getting hit by sleep just means you weren't part of their karmatic intervention. The plan was for you to lose. Please enjoy competitive pokemon.
Rain? more like LAME
Have any of you fought the helping hand VenuZard combo?Venu is a life orb and it fucks basically all of Zard's problem mons.
>>59477296delphox beats charizard-venu
Had a nigga mega his scrafty in front of my competitive milotic today
>nasty plot sharpedoWHY?
>>59477327was it named epstein
>>59477012They need to distribute Chilly Reception to Mr Rime (move reminder) and Meowth (via breeding w/Smeargle that has sketched it).Maybe Jynx too.They're all faster Pokémon and relatively frail so Slowking will still be by far the best user
>>59477127Where are you getting this data?
>>59477385pokebase
>>59477370Actually no, scratch Jynx.Wobbuffet.
>>59477127here's if you expand it to anything above 1% usage
Why is niggervillion getting a resurgence in usage
Want to fissure stuff without annoying focus sashes getting in the way
>umbreon and milotic in the back;~; y u do this?
>>59477529who is niggervillion
>chlorophyll whimsicottwhy are people doing this now it's pissing me the fuck off
>>59477587People forget b, the puffball can nuke your ass
if I lost yet another game to multiple rock slide flinches in a row im going to become the joker
>>59477587for me activating armor tail is annoying and that chance to OHKO from moon blast + fairy feather on Garchomp is just too good.
my only complaint about armor tail is actually how it applies on switch inI know that's how every ability works but by god is it obnoxious, not only being unable to use priority while the giraffe is in the field, but using it at all being a risk when it's even in the party at all since it could switch in and fuck you at any moment
>>59477645the more I think on it i haven't used skill swap/role play on a giraffe yet. that sounds like fun.
Someone traded me an Italian terapagos for a MachampLook how cute he is
>>59477669It's a strong Pokemon too. Have you played SV?
>>59477684Yeah, but I sold my switch after beating it so I didn't play the DLC. But I like terapagos and pecharunt.I'm glad terapagos won the worlds VGC too
>>59477689He didn't that was Chi-yu, Brute Bonnet, Flutter Mane, Koraidon, Lunala, and I think Ursaluna. Pagogo won an international or something
>>59477702I remembered wrong then.Further proof terrain/weather deniers can't keep up with how broken terrain/weather settees are
>>59477131Thick Fat practically makes M-Venasaur annoying af. And normally there is no Psychic Type on the generic 6 bullshit.
prankster parting shot is the most satanic aids shit ever conceived if grimmisnarl has zero haters willing to strangle that goblin fuck with their bare hands, then i'm dead
>>59477814Clear Amulet can't return soon enough. That said there is obvious counterplay with dark types.
Is Polteageist any good or does it get objectively culturemogged by its eastern counterpart?
>>59477842fraid so
>>59477842Was poltergeist ever good?
>>59477842It’s not good but it’s the only Pokemon that can Shell smash+baton pass if you want to try some meme shit with white herb
>>59477586
Probably overthinking it but I wonder if some Pokémon that aren't here is because they're getting evolutions next gen. It would be like holding back on adding Primeape or Girafarig knowing Annihilape and Farigiraf were soon replacing them.
sash basculegion that can aqua jet or flip turn at low risk is so much scarier to my team than the scarf variant, it's a blessing that most people just carelessly use it as a save until the end and click last respects bot >>59478051they put qwilfish in the game along with overkwil so idk if this holds up
>>59478114Gamefreak is really autistic about pretending regional variants are the same Pokemon that’s why Qwilfish is in.>>59478051Regular Pokemon are always excluded from ranked, it there’s a low-mid power Pokemon missing it will probably just be saved for the WW metas
>>59478114To be fair that's different. That would be like adding regular Linoone and Obstagoon who function very differently. They're both technically "fully evolved". They haven't added regular Mr. Mime or Basculin but they could. It is technically a Gamefreak game so they would know if there's an evolution coming.
>>59478051Well this does somewhat line up with the WiWa leaks I've seen (Nidoking form, Lurantis form, I don't remember the rest), but again they'd be new forms so not really.
>>59477555sent
ATTENTION DUELISTS!https://x.com/i/status/2084282062488678546
>>59478491>no skins damn, those could've been fun
>>59478491>no new skins You fucking bug NIGGER
>>59478355Regional variants or gimmick related forms? If it's gimmick related I can see them being held off. They can probably hold off on things like Kingler and Butterfree until Gigantamax comes back.
>>59475159well? you gonna post it?
>>59478491who are the little cup demons?
>>59478626Meinsho and Vullaby for singles. Here's everything Smogon deemed busted enough to be worth banning in SV.
>>59478491All coming in 5 months at this pace
>>59478626better question are which nfe can hang with the big dawgs, and the answer is clefairy
>>59478647lets assume they're retarded and there is no eviolite, still?
>>59478491How many of these actually matter though? Adding something like Grovyle and Rattata is a huge waste of time. No one will ever use these and no one will be happy with these things clogging the gacha pool. Imagine your pull being Mudkip, Onix, Patrat, Pineco, Clamperl, Togetic, Feebas, Machoke, and then maybe one actually useful pull and the other being niche not especially powerful Pokémon like Pangoro. Realistically maybe only 15 of these matter and it's things like Scyther, Ursaring, Porygon 2, Bisharp, Duraludon, Dipplin.
just give me eviolite and porygon and ill be happy
It’s not gonna be little cup it’s just gonna be Porygon 2/Z, Scyther, Clefairy, and Dusclops
>>59478655it's still got friend guard, but then its just a bad maushold + clefable
>>59473691Why is bisharp behaving like a castrated cuck on this image ?
>>59478647Honestly cases where the pre-evolution is better than the evolution like Clefairy and Chansey feels so wrong I don't really care if they don't come back. Evolutions should just be better than the pre-evolution because that's the point.
>>59478777 he tried to sucker punch
>when you've been getting incredible mileage out of your heliolisk because players have zero creativitySo many goddamn rain teams.
>>59478987I used scarfed solar power Heliolisk in the first season. Setup the sun, use electroweb on opposing Aerodactyl, and Zard would then outspeed and KO Aero.I even had a guy lead Manectric into my leads, he mega evo'd T1 instead of keeping lightning rod. The speed drop made it slower than Zard and he lost immediately.
>>59476937Accelrock isn't illegal I've been using it on my normal lycans for weeks
>tfw no shiny mons
>>59479205Tell me about it. I've been trying to breed a shiny Politoed for days now.
>>59479205>tfw drowning in shinies and now need them to have titles or they don't feel special
>>59479202Midnight doesn't get it for no particular reason
>>59477720His biggest problem is he only has good stats when hogging tera. Calyrex or Miraidon might want tera and almost need it much of the time, but they still can do stuff without it.
>>59478491I want to like Champions and I’ve been playing to Master Ball each season, but fuck it’s bleak and I don’t have the drive to push further into MB3. It’s just making me angry which probably isn’t healthy.
>>59479208I don't have a switch, so my only hope is getting lucky with pokemon home.>>59479255Send a couple my way.
I tried a month of Premium on Champions, what happens when it expires? Do I lose any mons above the 100 limit or do all the ones after 100 get locked?
>>59478491finally get to play with my little nigga
>>59479205I've been tradding mine for E-Floettes who then I trade for meta mons.
>>59479330I only have a E-Floette because my friend got lucky and traded me one. The best pokemon I got so far is a Japanese Kingambit.
>>59479336>Japanese Kingambitsovl
Mega Salamence is imminent. I’m scared, bros.
>>59478491I wonder if by ‘pre-evolution’ Pokemon they mean Clefairy & Murkrow or a random assortment of shittersAlso I hope ‘custom game features’ entails 6v6
>>59479364Probably just shit that could reasonably abuse Evilote. Dusclops, Porygon 2, Murkrow, etc.
Losing streaks fucking suck, especially when it feels like it’s bad luck. I’m sure there are tiny things to learn but just fucking burnt out
>>59479363>mega salamence>probably garchomp z, as wellHold on to your butts
>>59479297I dunno lolI guess you'll have to find out for us
>>59479297>Anything past the limit is grayed out and you can't access them until you resub, even if you empty out space for themFrom the ‘eddit
Nothing is imminent. Why has half this thread convinced itself we're getting new megas + items before worlds? It's the third month of MB and you'll get the already announced battlepass for it.
>>59479443Your mom is imminent.
Feel like it’s impossible to use Whimsicott, I am getting out-read every single match this last day.Jumping back to an anti TR giraffe with Charizard y
encore/disable should only work on moves that the Pokemon actually saw you usesituations where one of your guys protected or used a status when the encore mon wasn't even on the field, but get punished for it anyway because it switches in after a KO, are some bullshit
>>59478647P2, Clefairy and Dusclops, obviously. Riolu does Coaching and prankster shenanigans. Scyther won a regional in Reg H. Murkrow did well in Series 1/Reg A but that was mostly due to a lack of good Tailwind setters. Scraggy does Fake Out + Intimidate + TR Coaching stuff. There's probably more but it starts to get niche.
>>594794432 months per update is already hella slow so they better fucking give us something.
>>59479370Eevee is 100% gonna be in the prevo roster even if it's worthless outside of a z-move format.
>>59479694Imagine if they made a light ball esque item for eevee but it’s only obtainable with a LGPE eevee
>>59479744I don't think you can put the partner pikachu/eevee into Home regardless.Making more exclusive items for shitmon mascots is something they should be doing however.
>>59478672You can have different gacha banners anon...
i love how you can completely outplay someone but it doesnt matter because they have that faggot fish in the back
>>59479865If the possibility of them having the fish is real, and you aren't playing around it, you aren't outplaying them completely, anon. Yes the fish is gay as fuck but you do need to play with it in mind.
>>59479865Haha ghost fish , I choose you!
>>59479873not that guy but you could say the fish simply existing forces a very unoptimal playstyle because you have to constantly make sure you're preserving an answer to the fish, which makes it much harder to deal with the rest of its teamwhether you play around the fish or not is extreme impact on the game cannot be understated
>>59479422think of every loss as a lesson to learn.
as someone with a team extremely weak to gholdengo I hope aaron zheng steps on a lego for popularizing that tyranitar team that everyone has now
>>59479921Why do you have such a hard time with it? Post your team. I've been playing it and I think it's honestly so punishing. You have to play around specific mons or you simply cannot win.
>>59479921What is the Tyranitar team? I haven't seen it.
>>59479938Tyranitar-Mega @ Tyranitarite Ability: Sand Stream Level: 50 EVs: 17 HP / 18 Atk / 31 Spe Jolly Nature - Knock Off - Rock Slide - High Horsepower - Protect Excadrill @ Focus Sash Ability: Sand Rush Level: 50 Shiny: Yes EVs: 2 HP / 32 Atk / 32 Spe Adamant Nature - Protect - Iron Head - Rock Slide - High Horsepower Milotic @ Sitrus Berry Ability: Competitive Level: 50 Shiny: Yes EVs: 20 HP / 20 Def / 4 SpA / 8 SpD / 14 Spe Calm Nature - Protect - Icy Wind - Scald - Haze Gholdengo @ Life Orb Ability: Good as Gold Level: 50 EVs: 27 HP / 13 Def / 16 SpD / 10 Spe Modest Nature - Make It Rain - Shadow Ball - Nasty Plot - Protect Sinistcha @ Colbur Berry Ability: Hospitality Level: 50 EVs: 29 HP / 15 Def / 22 SpD Bold Nature - Matcha Gotcha - Shadow Ball - Protect - Rage Powder Staraptor-Mega @ Staraptite Ability: Contrary Level: 50 EVs: 29 HP / 1 Atk / 4 SpD / 32 Spe Jolly Nature - Close Combat - Brave Bird - Tailwind - Protect
>>59479932i'm the ghostfag, so it's an entirely self imposed weakness, but stillbasically nothing on the team is ever living a life orb boosted modest shadow ball, so I have to pray my few checks to it are on the field when it comes out, cause switching into it is suicidal i kind of have to treat it like a basculegion that can't be killed with foul play
Kill its teammates and the protect Delphox comp crumbles, killing the mega blastoise if they decide that mode is always an instaforfeit with these teams too
>>59479873>just play around it bro, use roar or whirlwind to pull it out bro just never kill any of your opponents pokemon bro its easyNah, the only way to really "play around legion" being in the back is to clean sweep your opponent so its legion vs 4 healthy pokemon.There's sucker punch but the number of viable sucker punch users in the game is pretty low. Like...kinggambit and what? Grimmsnarl I guess? Mega mawile? And the legion player is gonna be playing around that as much as you're playing around the legion.
>>59479921Gholdengo is annoying with its typing but a zap cannon + follow up move after its paralyzed tends to work
>>59479954Reflect helps, have had mega venasuar clutch out max power last respects, i also like using Quash into Zap Cannon in case they're max speed jolly + scarf
>>59479949Oh, that team is surprisingly good into you then. Basculegion kinda sweeps most of the team. Knocks out Ttar and Excadrill with Wave Crash, Gholdengo and Sinistcha probably can't take a Last Respects after a couple KOs.
>>59479949oh and not to mention it can't be encored or disabled either
>>59476502>heh, I'm a hardcore competitive gamer who only plays skill based games>i-is that a game about... risk assessment? AAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SAKURAI SAVE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>59479972Shockingly competitive Pokemon is still way less luck based than other popular digital strategy games like auto chess or card games.
>>59477127Bugbros... we arent using Scizor enough...
>rain team>no pelliper or politoed>could've set up rain for archaludon with sableye but thought Encore on Ychu Zap Cannon when they had a mega staraptor was the better option making azumaril hardwall arch
Here me outWeather set by ability should only last 3 turnsSet by a move is the regular 5The held items still increase duration by 3 turns
You’re not playing ranked battles with illegally obtained /genned mons, r-right, anons?
>>59480024I'm actively asking for shinies and I don't care whether they're genned or not.
>>59480024that movement would have been more accepted if it wasnt headed by some big headed furry cuck. as of right now, i dont think anyone gives a shit where you mons come from. if it passes thru Home its good enough
>>59480022I like the idea, less focus sash pellipers and less blizzard spam freeze hax would be nice, 6v6 singles would suffer but who cares lol
>>59480024i clone my 'mons before sending them to home.
>>59480024if you think about it rolling the gacha ranch gens mons for you
>>59480024All my mons I've bred/caught myself in SV/ZA.
How long do I have to get to master? Will I have time tomorrow? I’ve been lazy
>>594800752 and a half hours max if you have a competent team, no real point in trying this late in the season except to get VP
is there a point to masters anymore? im almost there, but i cant be arsed to do it. the only tangible thing they are dangling for me is just one ten second cutscene which promises MAYBE ill get more content in the future, maybe. I have near 200k VP and all the free box spaces there is, so why should i care?
>>59480084Find a fun team with a mon you like on youtube, put the code in and just play without ranks, elo, etc in mind. If you need mons to complete the team, anons here are always here to help
>lost because I got frozen for 3 turnsCome on maaan I don’t have time for this bullshit
>>59480098doesnt answer my question.im already playing draft and monotype with other people. im asking whats the point of getting to master rank itself. ive gotten double masters every other season, but this month i just dont feel it
>>59480024im using my team of shinies I caught in 30 minutes on ZA
Azumaril and Mega Ychu are such a fun lead duo, can stay in base to wall archaludon and other raichu with a water type
Mono rain sucks now, especially with mega raichu y usage rising
Out of the metaslop mons, mega aerodactyl is probably the only based one
>>59480154rock types are always honest
The mega staraptor players who still just use him as the centerpiece of their team comp are so bad lmao. Shit doesn't work when he's the only threat.
>>59480154nah raichu y is the based one
>>59480154>rock slide flinch spam and tailwind>based
A metagame where brainless players didn't have to rely on basculegion to bail them out would be nice, got to 1926 few days ago cause I went on a streak of not running into the fish of balance>hurr chip your grass type into range of ghost type explosion with no drawbacks
WHY THE FUCK IS EVERYONE RUNNING SPECIAL MOVES ON THE PHYSICAL ATTACKERS WHAT THE FUCK!!!!>>!>!!!!!!!
>>59480205basculegend is a representation of skill
>>59480225garchompies have been getting so cucked by intimidate and burns they're running special moves to cope now
>>59480243and it fucking works fuck this stupid ass chud dargon
>>59480243but i've seen special incineroars special gyarados and more.
>>59480225Sure you aren't playing vs bots? They have mons with intentionally horrible moves to hand you a free win.
>>59480248>special incineroarokay, I have no answer for this
>>59480259>>59480264i was on a 4 win streak when i discovered the special incineroar.
Might run merciless pex with glimm, poison touch sneasler and salazzle (cause of gholdengo) with all this talk of unconventional sets
>>59480266The game is on mobile now so plenty of idiot children who could be playing the game running suboptimal movesets. It's the end of the season so they could be higher rank right now off sheer ladder grinding and luck.
>opponent pelipper gets off 2 wide guards in a row>their archaulodon protects the turn after>that's okay, my gholdengo won't get the shadow ball but at least excadrill will kill pelipper with the rock sli->pelipper avoided the attack!>pelipper used knock off! >alright fuck it I can handle pelipper I'm gonna double into arc->archaludon used protect!>pelipper knocks off gholendgo again but he's still barely alive>kill the arch with shadow and die to another knock off>pelipper barely lives the rock slide>pelipper proceeds to wide guard FIVE consecutive turns after>piss and blood running down my leg>avoid the urge to batista bomb my switch and kill pelipper with 2 iron headsDoes wide guard get a 100% guard chance when they've only got one Pokémon left or did the rng devil really just try to fuck me up the ass just now?
>>59480307anon... wide guard doesn't work like protectyou can literally spam it as many times in a row as you want
>>59480307Anon...Wide Guard doesn't have a chance to fail at all.
>>59480225You think TPC will let you Terastallize Mega Pokemon once that's introduced?
>>59480318>>59480319Oh fuck me, I learned something new. I thought I was losing my mind with the double arch protect and the rock slide miss, but now I feel a little less crazy.
>>59480307Wide guard doesn't have a counter but a successful wide guard does count down the protect counter. So you can't use wide guard and quick guard then protect. Well you can but it's the same as if you're using protect a second time.
>soak basculegion into maushold population bombwtf was bro cooking
Rotomdex as a playable pokemon when?
>>59480468take a shower
>>59480468>Rotomdex as a playable pokemon when?soon man, soon. theyll add the dex substitute that wasn't even a pokemon in the base game and on top of that doesn't even have it's own stats / typing ect and one that was replaced by the rotom phone.
>>59480538>Typing Is electric steel, not hard to figure out
USE SCARFED CONTRARIAN SERPERIOR
>opponent sylveon survived a Brave +15 Atk Mega Golurk Headlong Rushjeez wtf were they feeding that dog
>no one uses special Aegislash anymoreGamefreak at peace
>>59480882i literally just saw one.
mega arbok trust the plan
Started playing 2 days ago and speedran up to MB3. Fun enough playing with just megas as the only gimmick, shame the season seems to be ending. Not used to only picking 3 but at least it means I can stomp the retards that must click stealth rock turn 1 every game.
>>59480225Most of the already bulky Pokes run some investment in Defense, despite the big 6 in the game being CharY, E-Floette/Troonveon and Venasaur..
>>59480955When the season ends you just restart from Pokeball and climb again. Probably best with a new team for your own variety. They probably aren't adding new Pokémon until the end of the month.
>>59481099Roger.
