Tokyo MewMew EditionWhat is Pokémon Sleep?Pokémon Sleep is a sleep tracking app that utilizes your smartphone and/or the Pokémon Go Plus + device to record data as you sleep. In doing so, you'll be able to meet a variety of Pokémon and fill out your Sleep Style Dex.Be sure to post your Research ID so that you can add and share candy with fellow Anons. We are currently locked at 50 friends.FAQ:>How do Shinies work?If you encounter a shiny Pokémon, a single Poké Biscuit will auto-befriend it.>What should I spend my diamonds on?Expanding your ingredient pockets, item pockets and Pokémon box. Long term you’ll want to max out ingredient pockets, everything else is up to what's convenient for you.>When should I use my items?When you have a good grasp of the game mechanics. You may want to save up Recovery Incenses for event missions.>What should I spend my sleep points on?Poké Biscuits first or if you’re a premium user: Main and Subskill seeds and Great Biscuits.>Can I play this game if there's a lot of noise where I sleep?The game tracks sleep based on motion only; sound has no impact.>A Pokémon I fed got full! Will I have to start from scratch the next time I find one?Nope! Pokémon retain any progress from when you last saw them.>How do dream clusters work?The higher your research rank, the more shards you get. You may want to hold onto them as long as possible.>Official Pageshttps://www.pokemon.com/us/app/pokemon-sleep/https://www.pokemonsleep.net/en/news/>Unofficial Wiki[WARNING] Turbo Cancer-ridden with ads. Use at own risk.https://pks.raenonx.cc/en>Alternative Calculatorhttps://nerolislab.com/>Simple Candy Calculatorhttps://candy.blspnm.com**For safety, back up your account by linking it to Google or your Apple ID. Or at least copy your Support ID from the Pokémon Sleep launch screen (click to reveal Support ID under menu)**Previous >>59374387
Ok...>Thank you for playing Pokémon Sleep!>Three years have passed since the release of Pokémon Sleep, and the number of available Pokémon has surpassed 230 species.>We recognize that as a result of this, it has become difficult to level up the main skills of multiple Pokémon at the same time. To address this issue, we are considering solutions that take long-term development into account, such as a new feature that allows players to receive various items, including Main Skill Seeds.>Also, new Main Skill Seeds will be available starting next week!>New Main Skill Seeds that can be used on each Pokémon>New Main Skill Seeds that can be used on certain species of Pokémon will appear starting on Aug. 9, 2026, at 23:00 p.m..>To commemorate this, we’re giving out Main Skill Seed (Hawlucha) to researchers.>Distribution Period: Aug. 9, 2026, at 23:00 p.m. to Oct. 8, 2026, at 20:59 p.m.>• Main Skill Seed (Hawlucha) ×1>This item can be used on the Pokémon specified in the item name, as well as before or after its Evolution, and it raises the level of their main skill level by one.>Note: Similar to Pokémon Candies, this item can also be used on other forms of the Pokémon specified in the item name, as well as Pokémon wearing special costumes, such as Pikachu (Halloween).
winrar? also holy shit i got a great biscuit from my daily gift>>59482778thank god. but this might be bad for bag space
>>59483064fugg :DDDDD
>>59482778Species specific skill seeds could be a good or bad thing depending on how they handle it.They straight up need to be cheaper than regular skill seeds, available through other means, and available more regularly.It also introduces a problem of accruing skill seeds for a species that isn't going to be able to use them; like if you've maxed out a forever helper (no prospects of finding a better one), unless they raise the main skill level cap in the future.They're probably largely going to be distributed via event boxes and gifts, but I suspect that Munchlax Pickup might be the way to rarely get skill seeds for your napping Pokémon; introducing a massive bias towards napping skill specialists.The flip side of that, is that if you get skill seeds for Pokémon that you wouldn't use main skill seeds on (like Typhlosion or Gengar), there's no harm in using their dedicated skill seeds on them.Hawlucha getting a skill seed as the introductory example also suggests yet again that it'll be either a skill specialist (particularly Ingredient Draw S), or an ingredient specialist with an ingredient or cooking main skill.>>59483066Pretty damn good, but EXP down nature is gonna make that a slog to level up.
>>59483107This was also mentioned separately in the bundles announcement:>Note: Main Skill Seed (Hawlucha) can be used on the Pokémon listed below to raise their main skill level by one. It can also be exchanged for Hawlucha Candy ×70 in the item’s details screen if you do not use it.So there's no real danger of piling up extra seeds you don't need since they can be converted back into Pokemon candies. Given Darkrai/Mew seeds only give 40x candies, you can imagine these Pokemon-specific skill seeds are going to be very rare. Might be nice to get a seed for each Pokemon Friendship badge rank-up or even a bonus from sleep ribbons. Though in the case of the latter, it seems like it would make more sense to do a straight tied-in bonus than give you an item to do the same thing.
>>59483107>but EXP down nature is gonna make that a slog to level up.i could mint it. i currently have 3 mints (one in the gift box). initially planned to give one to this treecko since i have to use one within the next 19 days. should i give it to bacon instead?
>>59483140The 70 candy exchange is pretty good, it made me ponder another issue though.Once a Pokémon hits max level, you cannot use it's candies. The hard level cap is assumed to be level 100, so i have to wonder if an alternative use of Pokémon candies at level 100 will be introduced. Otherwise, there's only the infrequent Candy Cram-o-matic events (like next week).
>>59483511That's when you raise a second one of the same species!
>>59483829Not possible or feasible in the case of special Pokémon, as you cannot run duplicates (and Mew and Darkrai are once per account).Also not practical for certain team compositions that reward you for having unique team members, like the Helper Boost special Pokémon.So far the game has been very good about preventing resource waste, with plenty of overflow mechanics.
>>59483511>>59483922Realistically, we're at least a couple years away from unlocking just level 80, so you just stockpile those candies until the next level cap unlock. Pokemon candies also have their own inventory with a cap of 9,999 so it's not like you're wasting anything just by having them, or are being forced to manage your storage to make room for others. I have about 3,400 Pikachu candies and have tossed another small amount into the Cram-o-matic, but that's essentially 3 years of candies. Capping out my Pikachu Candy storage would take over 3 more years, provided I don't find a good Pichu to use them on by then.
>>59483391>670 candies gets it from level 14 to 34yeah i think it needs a mint
About 3 hours until maintenance starts. Might want to do your meals early before you get locked out.>>59483391I'm one to talk since I'm trying to train up this one, but I think Berry Burst Pokemon need more than BFS + HB to do well. Natures are very impactful, so having a neutral one is a lot of missed opportunity. Not that your Treecko still wouldn't be almost top tier all the way at 80.
This is actually a decent addition. Before, they used to just give us a notification on the day of, with a nebulous time period. Now they give you a reminder at an actual relevant time.
>>59484902i mean, i HAVE to use a candy because the third one is in the overflow and at that time the treecko was the one who gained the most. but i think it'll go to bagon instead and i'll try for a better treecko
Lucario's new skill gives less strength than Charge Strength S (3212)
>>59485975Disappointing, but you're at least not strictly choosing between dream shard farming and strength generation.Lucario's new peak RP is significantly higher since the main skill change, with someone's level 70 Lucario on Reddit being >12k RP.
Getting real tired of hungry procs popping up on the few Pokemon that I don't need to feed at all. Also should conserve a bit for the Captain Pikachu/Tinkaton spawns in a couple weeks. Hawlucha too, but I generally don't bother feeding single-stagers unless they're hungry.>>59486799These "dual" skills really seem to inflate Pokemon RP. Suppose Dream Shard Magnet having 8 levels also adds into that, despite the actual effects being a bit lacking.
>clear ingredients for ingredient magnet proc>procs again 5 minutes laterGuys please you spoil me
>>59487200Heracross being the prime example of inflated RP, but both skill effects are really strong and have perfect synergy.>>59487355I rolled expert water / rock / bug with ingredient effect, and my team is nearly all skill specialists.As a result I'm discarding ingredients to collect ingredients so my skill specialists can function as normal.Heracross' ingredient magnet pulls aren't always helpful either, and I'm on my sixth fucking consecutive salads week so my stockpiles are fucked because you bank up more valuable ingredients for a meal request change.
>>59487398Don’t worry you’ll get HUNDREDS of dream shards for turning in those ingredients
Hawlucha's skillDead on arrival
>>59487519Yikes
>>59487519With that ingredient set, it was always going to be an uphill battle as far as ingredient accessibility goes. It mirrors Charizard in the ingredients it picks up, though it's likely that Hawlucha will wind up being able to get higher quantities of each. The other parts of Hawlucha's stats will also matter, because there's still plenty of room for its actual specialty, speed, ingredient rate, and trigger rate. It could easily be super fast and be an all-rounder, or still be an ingredient type that doubles up its ingredient gathering with its main skill, sorta like Mawile. In either case, it doesn't seem like an end-all-be-all chase Pokemon, but I imagine it will still be strong for its niche, like all other single-stagers *cough* Sableye *cough*
>>59487926It's not just the overlap with Charizard. Unlike the other Ing Draw users he is competing with both Dragonite and Tyranitar, and there is no way he will generate anywhere near the absurd amount of Herb or Ginger that they do.As for Sausages, he is competing with Charizard and Aggron, two easily-obtainable AAA producers.Meanwhile, the other Ing Draw users at least have benefits like giving Oil (still no amazing Ing specialist for it), or giving ingredients that are highly desirable (Pumpkin) or still without widespread specialists (Avocado).
>>59488665True, Ingredient Draw won't get the same raw quantities as an AAA ingredient Pokemon, but despite Herbs, Sausage, and Ginger being relatively common ingredients among other Pokemon, they're all still broadly useful together. On the other hand, given how common these ingredients are, I imagine Hawlucha will have something else to give it an edge or better niche application.One upside of Ingredient Draw Pokemon is that you aren't reliant on rolling the right ingredient slots since the skill provides each ingredient equally. And you don't have to get all the way to 60 to have your selection and quantities either. Of course it requires skill seeds rather than candies and shards; the possibility of this being properly alleviated through specific Pokemon skill seeds is remote, but it has been recognized.
Seems Cyan expert has a more significant boost and nerfs than GG expert, 20% production and 5 inventory spots on main berry compared to 10% on GG, while off berries are at a 35% production nerf compared to 15% on GG.I'm not super far into my GGEX experience, but the 15% nerf is low enough to just use your off berry boys for energy and ignredients as well as dedenne and accept them being slightly slower, but 35% is almost certaintly too much.
>>59490270Yeah, it's more important than ever to have stronger type coverage, with water / fairy / flying being the current progression priority.The nerfs are particularly cruel to ingredient farmers though, and cooking viable dishes will become a lot harder on expert maps whilst being too heavily subject to favorite berry rolls.Theoretically you can rely on Suicune to force ingredient farmers to function, but that requires rolling water berries on a 1/3 primary roll, or a 2/17 secondary role if it wasn't primary.That being said, fairy type options are still pretty limited. Flying type has aces like Braviary and Farfetch'd, whilst Water type has aces like Suicune, Feraligatr, and Golduck.Clefable falls behind considerably against the competing berry farmers or skill specialists, though it did just get a buff to its skill chance rate (it's not just a skill specialist like Togekiss).Fairy type's MVP is arguably still Wigglytuff for its E4E role. Game updates have been laying the groundwork for every expert island having at least one viable healer, but a normal, ice, or dark type skill specialist E4E healer is still missing. Blissey or Umbreon do not cut it.There's no rush to go straight to Cyan Beach Expert though, since going there at 0% bonus is going to be agony. You can just keep going to Greengrass Isle Expert whilst trying to build that team up.It's suitable for me that's trying to max out my research rank ASAP, since GGEX has the best research EXP gains right now.
>>59490430That's why it's becoming better to have Pokemon that aren't mono-ingredient. You can't really use all the ingredients that a mono-ingredient produces in a day besides as filler, so AAB/AAC variety holds up a lot better. Though ABC is still less than reliable.Also important to note that while Expert Area Bonus doesn't overflow into the standard areas and vice versa, GG Expert WILL overflow into Cyan Expert, so you can avoid taking on 0% bonus.
Got my silver Larvitar badge and I keep wondering if I should cut my losses and just invest in this one I got a year ago. It's good, but not great.
>>59491925I have a similar but worse one and I regret investing in it.Ttar isn't a great BFS user, you really want one as a ginger farmer.ABA is also the worst possible ingredient spread for it (and most things).Keep looking and configure the silver badge so it doesn't have two guaranteed gold subskills; go for zero or one if you feel strongly enough about it using BFS or maybe rolling HB, but I would prefer to maximise slots that can roll ingredient finder.
Where are you going this week? I had considered trying to M20 on AC with the cooking boost, but I wonder if I go hunting for Farfetch'd instead.
>>59491941Ideally, I'm looking for AAB spread with BFS. ABA is strictly worse, but it's more useful than basically any other combination. Choosing not to have BFS for a Pseudo is leaving a lot of potential power on the table, so I'd consider it a must have next to IFM.>>59491990The Summer event starts tomorrow with Hawlucha, along with the opening of Cyan Expert. I'm just going to go to regular Cyan as the best option, because going to Expert Cyan will play against both the event bonuses and your spawns.And after that is the Horizons collab event, which we haven't got any details on yet.
>>59491990Gonna go to regular Cyan Beach.I've been stuck on GGEX with salads for too long and need a change of pace, plus it's a great spot for Farfetch'd hunting.CBEX with 0% expert bonus is a terrible idea.Hawlucha is whatever, its main skill is a dud but we don't know if it's an ingredient or skill specialist yet. Not all Ingredient Draw users are skill specialists.Cyan beach is also great for Piplup and Rufflet, important Steel and Flying berry farmers.
>>59492126As I keep thinking about it, I don't think they're going to give us a skill-specialist Hawlucha. That would give it the same mechanics as a Crustle, but just make it really hard to catch for no reason. And if it's an ingredient-specialist, they gave Mawile its own unique version of Ingredient Draw, so that's a little fishy that Hawlucha seemingly has a standard version. I think there's space for it to be mechanically closer to Slaking, where it's a berry type, but it has both high ingredient and skill trigger rates. And quite a bit faster, I hope.Bug and Flying are permanently saddled with the debuff of their own berry strength, so they typically fit a much deeper niche than other types.
>>59492645Well there's the fact they're giving us a free Hawlucha skill seed, which suggests to me it might be a skill specialist, but it doesn't have to be.Could be their way of suggesting skill seeds don't have to be for skill specialists.Still, a Pokémon specialising in Herbs / Sausages / Ginger this late into the game, only seems relevant for Cyan Beach Expert, and mostly on Curry weeks. It seems to niche for the investment it's demanding.
I thought it might be a good time to start training up my barely passable Cleffa, but it's been so long that I forgot that all the babies need 50 hours of sleep time.
Hawlucha stats fully out. As expected, skill specialist with Herbs on all slots, Ginger on B and C, and Sausage on C.>>59493133>only seems relevant for Cyan Beach Expert, and mostly on Curry weeksAnd even there you have to get lucky to roll Flying berries since they aren't guaranteed to be the primary one.
Some more in-depth Hawlucha comparisons. It get more triggers than other Ingredient Draw Pokemon, but loses out in ingredient power because each of its ingredients are only mid to low power. It's pretty fast, so it can also work well with BFS.
>>59494707This'll never beat my triple-A Dragonite or Aggron for herbs or sausages, but I've not secured a ginger farmer yet.There's also that a Hawlucha can serve triple duty, and that the three ingredients are broadly useful on curry weeks, so it's not without merit but the investment cost may be hard to justify.>>59495184Is that one production comparison or team analysis?The latter lets you set up a healer so you can evaluate their efficiency whilst topped up on energy.This is a low-ball figure otherwise.
oh huh I had to unlock master 18 to get the EX Cyan Beach.
The event info says that Hawluch will spawn in non Expert Cyan, but I see that I can't set the Hawlucha incense?
>>59495541I only ever use Production Comparison. It doesn't always give the most accurate values in regards to self energy recovery, but it's in a vacuum. Also certain skills like Extra Helpful parse better than Team comp.
>>59495793Not until 3pm local time on Monday, like every new release
New curry recipes by the way. VERY easy to make, maybe some slight difficulty with the mushrooms.Also Cram-o-matic is active, so enjoy dumping your excess candies and turning them into possibly more useful candies. But now I need to increase my item space to make more room for these fucking things.
>>59496292I can make these if I change out a preferred berry bro + helping bonus guy on my expert island, is that worth doing or do you end up with less strength overall than if you just scraped together meals?
>>59496376This week has 1.5x cooking strength, so cooking should be a priority.You should aim to make the Greengrass Curry Bun regularly since it's likely easier to prepare than the Ninja Curry, and considerably stronger.Work on getting those recipe levels up ASAP.
>lvl 66>9461-1861-5641
>>59496508God I hate having low bonus strength percentage when I’m trying to level meals
>>59496557You only have to cook something like 5-6 times for it to start getting high levels.Hitting level 20 alone doubles its original strength output, and level 40 triples it.Or were you talking about your area bonus? Did you go to Cyan Beach Expert with 0% expert bonus? That shit's gonna be painful.
Oh fuck I just realized this
>>59496583Yeah just went there without thinking much
Picked up my Mawile, then immediately dropped it back off because I couldn't decide what else to put on Munchlax Island. You really do get a decent number of candies to feed up whatever Pokemon you put there though, so it's doing what it's supposed to I guess.
>>59496949Yup. Also I don't think it was there before, but they clarified which Special Pokemon are boosted per area. AND it states that candy gains are increased in Expert mode, whereas they were previously the exact same as the standard islands.Among others, it looks like Cyan Expert adds Dratini and Drampa.And for whatever reason, Mime Jr. remains exclusive to regular Cyan Beach.
>>59496949The 35% penalty wasn't actually shared until the new map went live. It was datamined, but it was absent from any news updates.
>>59499462Game sucks
>>59499462I considered changing islands just so I wouldn’t miss out on the free 1.5x building up of the new curries but I didn’t want to waste the expert ticket
Daaamn look at this gard GO
Lots of mini boosts for this event.>— All Days —>• The chance of each helper Pokémon’s main skill triggering will be multiplied by 1.25.>• Helper Pokémon Sleep EXP ×1.25>• During the first sleep research of the day, one Pokémon will for sure arrive hungry>• Final Strength gains from dishes will be multiplied by 1.25 (or 2.5 for Extra Tasty dishes or 3.75 for Extra Tasty dishes on Sunday only).>• Certain Pokémon will be more likely to appear during sleep research.>• A few Pokémon of different sleep types will appear during sleep research regardless of your sleep type for that day.>— Aug. 21 (Fri) to Aug. 23 (Sun) —>• Drowsy Power ×1.3The boosted spawns are a little random, but I'm going to assume those are the ones featured in the episode or the anime in general.>Greater Appearance Rate>Pikachu (Captain), Tinkatink, Tinkatuff, and Tinkaton>Slightly Greater Appearance Rate>Charmander, Charmeleon, Charizard, Chansey, Dratini, Dragonair, Dragonite, Wooper, Quagsire, Blissey, Sableye, Happiny, Riolu, Lucario, Sprigatito, Floragato, Meowscarada, Fuecoco, Crocalor, Skeledirge, Quaxly, Quaxwell, and QuaquavalLooks like Old Gold might be the place to go for maximum Tink and Pikachu spawns, as they're the only ones boosted on that island.
>>59499776I'm still in desperate need of a potato farmer, and the boosted Sprigatito spawns are what I need.Unfortunately Sprigatito was removed from the OGPP encounter pool, but it's probably better to focus on getting Tinkatink as it will likely be a meta defining fairy type, where the fairy type has been somewhat lacking.They haven't announced anything more about the Tinkatink line other than their type and sleep type, but I imagine Tinkaton might get a special main skill like Gigaton Hammer.
What are you cramming? I've been dumping Wooper candies in hopes of getting more Water candies to boost my Feraligatr up to 60.>>59500335I imagine Tinkaton is going to be a berry type, as our only option has been Clefairy, which is also primarily restricted to Full Moon nights. And then we've got 3 skill types and 2 ingredient types.
Sparkleduckie with hb bfs wtf
>>59501169I could also see tinkaton being a berry burst fairy type skill mon, seeing as they are trying to push more of these species-exclusive main skill seeds.
>gardevoir finds 2 berries>procs skill twice>check vaporeon, finds 2 berries>procs twiceYou guys spoil me
how do I snooze?
>>59501240Honestly it's still good, but it'll need that Inventory Up, and one to three subskill seeds.Also a nature mint down the line.
According to calculations this guy should be one of my best mons but he never fuckin procs
>>59501240>>59501451As tempting as it is to use any possible shiny, I wouldn't. Golduck really isn't fast enough to make great use of BFS, so it really needs as much skill trigger as it can get. Going into 70+, it probably is better to have BFS, but that's on top of the triggers as a base.
>>59501865Did you check Raenonx during an event with boosted skill procs?Because Raenonx will just do that by default and skew your perception of what the baseline performance will be.
>>59502069I’ve had him for a while and it still tells me it should be proccing a lot more than j feel like I’m getting
>>59502069You shouldn't need raenon to tell you that's a good roll for any skill mon. The only thing is that a good Charge Strength M Pokemon will activate maybe half a dozen times a day on average. It can always seem low if you're checking really often though.
