Perfect Guard EditionPokémon Champions is a free to play online battle simulator available on Switch and mobile. It features ranked, casual and private battles for both singles and doubles, and will be used for VGC tournaments in 2026.>NewsEnter HAJ1MAR1G1FT for a free 100 Quick Coupons and CHAMP10N for a free Machamp.New Season and Battlepass have begun.>Resources and useful linksCommunity Tournaments usage data: https://pikalytics.com/Ladder usage data: https://pokechamdb.com/enNew Player Guide(NEW PEOPLE READ THIS):https://rentry.org/pcg-guide (now taking suggestions and feedback)Anon made guide for brand new players to make a viable team with the starting pokemon: https://teamsheet.gg/t/sample-beginner-reg-b-vl3698Quick FAQ>Do I need my own Pokémon to play?No, the game features a recruitment system, but transferring from Home is recommended to save time and resources.>What makes the game so much more accessible than before?All aspects of a Pokémon are customizable with VP, a currency earned simply by playing the game. IVs are also removed.Ask in the thread if you want any specific Pokémon, and someone will respond.>Is there single player content?No.>Do I need a Nintendo Online subscription?No.>What's the starter pack?US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 Teammate Tickets (recruit Pokemon without using VP), 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music. Only available on Switch for now.>Is anything locked behind a paywall?So far everything gameplay relevant is also purchasable with VP. Only E-Floette require ZA transfer.>/pcg/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread):https://pastebin.com/d2FJZdPhPrevious: >>59487657
first for free mythicals
>>59492556If Mega Feraligatr’s special attack and attack were swapped would that even work?
first for bad game
>Get to masters in my preferred league>Lose all desire to play anymore until the next seasonAnyone else? What am I even working for after that? The privilege of finding the most cancerous teams possible? Once I beat Ultra Ball, I win
>>59494266I usually get to master in both leagues and then only do the daily
>>59494266I tried to get into M1 of singles last season but got hard stalled in the low 1800's and got burnt out. Been trying to breed a shiny Politoed for some TR memes but it's taken over a week now and still no results so that's killed my urge to play even more so.
>>59494266I get a bit more creative in MB but I do play much less yeah
>>59494239Can't wait to transfer the free melmetal I got in Home, also if they add eviolite and pre evos, I have a clefairy and murkrow ready to go
>https://www.youtube.com/live/Iy7CSZAG898?si=olwKklbKNjLmHnSIOur vp draft league has reached the semis, do come watch if you are interested
>>59494362The matches areSneed v JamsClamsy v Hafficome watch some non meta mons get used in novel ways instead of the same old meta slop
>>59494362hope you have a cute announcer
>>59494380i wish.We never got around to figuring out casting. I would be down to doing so myself if someone cocasted with me.
>>59494266The step up in opponents from ultra to master means more satisfying wins i guess, also the VP system gives the incentive to play to unlock new strategies (though i rarely get the bonuses cause i am so used to playing my current team that anything else tanks my rank, even the meta teams cause almost everyone is prepared for big bundle of six and i feel something in my soul being sucked out when I use generic zardslop, also not using trendslop either cause i hate mirror matches and none of the teams look interesting or fun)
Someone gave me a Miraidon. Is this good enough to get a Floette?
Recently destroyed the champion team
>>59494409non mega swamp? whats bro cooking?
>>59494409Eh, Kelsch is really good(insanely so), but Zard is still 5 of the 8 top teams.
>>59494412I'm confused too, apparently it was vital to their trophy cause of Yawn, team is very weak to mega venasaur
Need a Raichu X to support terrain pulse clawitzer pls
>>59494437>yawn into slow pivot with flip turnThat is really creative that whole team is so weird
>>59494463I like the idea too, main thing missing is a set up mon ready to take advantage of Fake Out and pivoting, maybe they could go Nasty Plot on Gengar but kinda pointless doing that when kingambit is everywhere, so frustrating how Parting Shot coded Umbreon is but doesn't get it as it'd be great synergy with Yawn
Shit Game
can someone explain to my why these stupid fucking retarded japniggers nerf make it rain but NOT last respects
>>59494362Im avoiding family but will watch later
>>59494528You'd think they'd nerf it along with Rage Fist but nah, pretty much every mon in this regulation is reasonable but the fish, you need a dark type on every team cause of it
>>59494458Cant help you with this one
>>59494541its genuinely astounding how they allow this faggot fish to be THIS centralizing im done with this game until they cycle it out
Would a 40 base power start and 40 extra for each fainted mon be a reasonable Last Respects nerf?
>>59494583it would still be a 160 BP STAB move at full power, which is basically over 200 with adaptability - maybe one or two new dark types would now be able to survive it but that's about all that changes
my last 16 games have been win lose win lose on ultra 1
I play a team of three exclusively. The rest are there because they have to be.
Psht i used mega Ychu before it was cool and niggas being boring pairing it with milotic instead of azumaril or gyarados where it can help set up by staying in base drawing electric attacks or with fake out pressure
>>59494645Same team or you switching around?
>>59494698same tem, this one
ULTRA BALL 1 IS A NIGHTMARE! GET ME THE FUCK OUT OF HERE!!
2nd time making to masterball tier. I think I'm starting to get the hang of it.
>>59494735How do you handle not having protect on a lot of your mons? Most of your team aren't exactly fast.
>>59494741Scarf kot is faster than most pokemon and with a ridiculous range of stab moves. For truly speed focused pokémon that's faster than the kot, I'm basically leaving it up to rng slowbro. Outside of priority, 44% of moving faster than them with a wide range of options.
>>59494235>the end of last thread>impotently waiting until a dying thread is dead to spam where no one can see itSchizo spammers aren't like they used to be
>>59494792I wasn't here for last thread but you sound hurt. I hope this one goes better.
>>59494793>>59494716What are you even talking about? It's that Cynthia vore spammer. I saw there were 20 images he dumped when the thread was already dead.
Why is it all the youtubers I watch had cakewalk matches and 15 game win streaks all the way to master but I get served the most blackest nigger tomfoolery that the human mind can imagine while only in great ball?
Game just deleted my main annihilape when I sent a duplicate back to the ranch wtf
>>59494828Anon the game didnt do it, you did. >>59494729Literally every season kek
>>59494799Oh, cool. I don't need to read about that stuff here though.
>>59494800They're on the infulencer track.
Surely this will be the season I play more once I get MB instead of dropping off
>>59494853Famous last words
>last match of great ball tier before ultra>shadow ball kingambitI've officially seen everything
>>59494541>>59494558Run grass knot or stab power whip if you hate dark that much
>>59494866Are you sure that wasnt a horoark?
>>59494868It might have been desu, I wasn't paying too much attention. I will instead write a review on the app store about how this game allows Pokemon with illegal moves
What are the best counters to the fucking fish?
>>59494877Kingambit, or anything with a strong Sucker Punch at least.
>>59494877Delphox grass knot hehehe
>>59494879>tfw fish has 2HP and 32Def
>>59494871It was a zoroark bro>>59494915Ugliest color in the world on this random and uninspired fish non-Pokémon that we’re all now forced to look at with it’s weird drippy tail that makes no sense because for no reason at all it’s super powerful tho nobody likes it or gives a fuck about it except that it’s “good”. I hate this fucking fish and all these gay ass “meta” Pokémon that are ugly on purpose
>>59494927Bro doesnt know salmon lore
Finally got out of Ultra ball by sticking it to a MStaraptor player. Fuck you, you stupid bird.
>>59494932Herring mog salmon except for sushi where salmon mogs tuna and both aren’t even close
Imagine still playing this
>>59494946The tuna grouper matchup is complex af, I’d say neither mogs the other particularly. >>59494949This is champions not pocket tcg
>>59494953>This is champions not pocket tcgMight as well be the same thing
>>59494905Unless it's scarfed
>>59494954This game makes me feel like Ash Ketchum. Kys troon
kinggambit m-mawile double sucker punch lead? fuck you faggot nigger
>>59494967Hope you didn't lock into respects, enjoy the wave crash recoil :^)
>>59494946Idk man salmon melt as they swim back home and turn into undead fish
Posting this here also.I’m doing an informal draft right now, if you want to participate out on a name and P# in ur name and trip, and draft ur fist mon here>>59494914I’d like to get at least 3 people tonight to demo this because the draft itself takes a week or more and if we can pull one off tonight with a few people as a proof of concept this could be a fun way to play champions and switch things up>>59494954What are you really upsetti about? You can tell me. No good mons?
>>59494949This lmfao
Championsfags be like: I'm running big six, but actually it's not big six but we're calling it that because someone got offended by calling it ZardslopPocketchads: I'm running M.doggo with liazard buddy after switching from puppy pile and rape birdWhy are we so lame?
>>59494949I can't help it. :(
>>59495035Give Watchog set
>>59494993They typically use flip turn. It can ohko a mega delphox not under the sun. But follow me works kek
>>59495045Did you just time travel from day 1, season 1? No one is running no bulk anything nowadays, but keep up the hopium
>>59494735did you post your team a few threads ago, last season? hippo/ape/sam core is familiar. I've still been using that team with the ychu, ceruledge, and rotom wash. rarely use anything other than the ychu and core 3. ignore me if I'm mistaken and you are not the anon
>>59495056I dont keep up with trends, i just know it can ohko firsthand both as a phox and basc user in singles.
Scarf Basculegion out speeds max speed Dragapult and Mega Greninja.>Mega Beedrill out speeds and survives aqua jet but knock off isn't a guaranteed killMan that is grim. Maybe Beedrill should have gotten a special snowflake ability that boosts super effective damage. Like Unbeelievable or something.
>>59495189>Unbeelievablehttps://youtu.be/e33SNyaXNsk
What's Decidueye's niche?
>>59495207Upper hand lol
>>59495209Nothing with triple arrows?
>>59495189>Like Unbeelievable or something.Come on dude. Adaptabeelity is so obvious.
>>59495211Well, you can kill a ttar with it. And a gambit as long as you have giraf and reena beside it
>>59494458didn't they give a free raichu two seasons ago?
>>59495227That anon has a home sub but not a champsub. He's literally homemaxxing to have dupes and rotate mons while working with the 50 (or 100)box cap.
>>59495025would there be any discussion if everyone would be running metaslop?
>>59495212Or you could just be on the nose and have an ability called Abeelity
>>59494690I also used Raichu Y before it was cool, I actually thought the antlers were sweet on first sight and fought against the “durr it’s AI” NPCtards that populated the original reveal thread, and I paired it with another rodent instead of Azu Maushold with Friend Guard and Follow me
Raichu Y was everywhere in singles since its introduction
>>59494690I used raichu Y max special attack when people didn't run max spdef archaludon so it was the perfect counter for itnow I'm seeing less and less archaludon so I don't really have a reason to use it that frequently
>>59495260>fought against the “durr it’s AI” NPCtardsNPC calling others NPC. Kill yourself faggot
Oh so the time based titles do actually read your system clock. I got "the Dozing" when I pulled at 7 PM. I had no idea. Something else I noticed is I only get the Vivillon color of the region I picked at the beginning.
total fairy death
>>59495207Uhhhhh
Finally got an eternal floetteBut I suppose nobody here wants to trade one for a pecharunt or a zeraora
>try bringing life orb scizor>no good matchups except farigiraf but it still needs helping hand to oneshot
>>59495468You’re sharpness Kleavor
>>59495480I don't feel like bringing a bug/rock in a meta full of rock slides
>>59495466All Floettes are female
>>59495576Mine identifies as nonbinary
>>59495576Not mine, I got the only male Floette in the world. Wanna trade a mythical for my male floette?
Thoughts on the EV spreads?
>>59495610>no offensive stats anywhere but talonflame>no sand setter for special mega garchomp>gwyndolin is femaleamazing, I hope you get your wins by spamming super fang
>>59495616That's just Life Orb Garchomp.
>>59495617>special life orb garchompwho hurt you?
>>59495632The stinky bridge did.
>>59495710it's going to be max sp.def if it's in a rain team anyway. does it even kill?
>>59495721Yes because most go max Speed or Max Defense in low MB.
>>59495739>max speed archaludonwhat the fuck lol
if you ever wonder why some opponents take a really long time to select a move its because they're running an api that shows them your moves
>>59495760proof? the ones that usually take a long time are either Japanese or stalling
>>59495749I kid you not, I ran into two Arches with max Speed and Leftovers on them. It barely survived a Helping Hand Hyper Voice and then the Leftovers ticked.
i hate sleep so much it's unrealwhy do already good pokemons get a 100% accuracy priority 4 turn stun for free
Trying to make an Ice/Hail team work with Mega Frosslass being the main contributorAny suggestions of mons to look for?I was also thinking of running a para trickster with it for speed management
>>59495922Lycanroc dusk
>>59495922Hasn't been hail for an entire generation.
How to you deal with this matchup as Starfox? It's been giving me trouble.
>>59495956Milotic or Sinistcha.
>just want to play machamp to MB ever since I started (last season) >he might be the literal worst fighting type available Please help me make him work bros
>>59495990problem is that even with no guard there aren't many moves he can take advantage of, and steadfast is assso you might as well run it under trick room (55 speed lmao) and burn/poison it with the partner. if sneasler does it for you then you're all set and can sweep>movesetI'd go with drain punch, bullet punch, ice punch (or knock off) and protect. give the partner helping hand too and maybe you can surprise someone by oneshotting their mega
>>59495282Got me to master easy
>>59496044I used your advice and added some stuff. Here is my team. Machamp - Guts - Sitrus Berrry @32 hp 32att >Drain Punch>Brutal Swing>Knock Off>Ice PunchScovillain - Moody - Scovillainite @32 hp 19 def 15 sad>Protect>Giga Drain>Rage Powder>Flamethrower My idea is to brutal swing the mega scovillain to get a burn. I'm running this with some other pokemon but it isnt quite optimal. What would you add here?
>>59496183that's cute but machamp is so frail that protect is pretty much needed
wtf i only just now learned whims has base 77 spatkwhy are those moonblasts hitting like something with 100
>>59496237Everyone is max speed max spatk because it's sashed and gonna die in 2 hits anyways. Sometimes a risky guy will fairy feather lol
>>59496247Or even life orb.
>>59495610Consider 2 speed on Gyarados to outspeed Adamant Kingambit, and Deelphox in tailwind. I run 32 HP/5 Atk/27 Def/2 Spe Adamant. 5 Attack gets the jump point.What set and item are you running? I'm running Sitrus with Waterfall/Taunt/Helping Hand/Protect.
>>59495956Glimmora has super effective moves against 5 out of those 6 mons
>>59496237Fairy is an overpowered offensive type.
>>59495990Run wide guard, nobody knows machamp learns it.
>>59495922Unfortunately there's really not many pokemon that benefit from snow right nowThe only slush rush user is beartic and honestly snow teams have to compete with charizard mogging them.Honestly para feels like trash since the nerf. You may as well just use a tailwind setter for speed control.
i hate this stupid game
i love this stupid game
>>59495466The game doesn't let you trade mythicals outside of direct friend trades. Even if anyone had those to spare the amount of coordination you would need to make the trade actually happen is unfeasible.
>when both teams use their incin wellFeels good mang
>>59496475>The amount of coordination you need to trade Pokemon between friends is too muchHuh?
>>59496497Having friends is hard mang.
Is there ever a reason to run hippowdon over tyranitar in doubles?
>>59496519Only time I saw hippo in doubles was someone setting up hazards and starting to spam dragon tail with various dragon types.
I think I had more success with my anti team than with my cohesive regular team
>>59496318When should I be using that?
Alolan for a kanto Raichu please
>>59496789Someone would probably trade you that even without you posting it here
>>59496237Low stats gain more power when invested than high stats.It's the reason why garchomo still hits hard with zero investment as a rocky helmet tank and why invested base 70s often surprise you with a boost move.
>>59494877Dry Skin Heliolisk is the best counter overall but its pretty bad into a lot of other things, setting up Reflect is great for mitigating its damage and the move Foul Play usually eradicates it if it's STAB, I usually deal with it with zap cannon and if sableye is on the field with mega raichu Y I quash it in case its Scarf jolly, people rarely lead basc so a late game intimidate can be good against it too
>>59495990Put a Scarf on it with Ice Punch for garchomp and stone edge for zard, dynamicpunch is a given and seeing as it's scarfed you can choose what it kills with its last move
>>59496770Charizard and sylveon are the obvious choices. Garchomp/aero leads that are just gonna toss out rock slide at you. Torkoal trick room eruptionsIts not useful in every match-up but there are moments its game defining.
I just learned power shift was a move that's basically power trick that also does special stats and it only existed in Legends Arceus
>>59495145It's probably me. This season was much easier once I understood the limits of my old team. Scarf kot is like a godsent that changed everything since Protean is too damn amazing.
>>59494729The false confidence that I had on my 10 win streak into Ultra 1 absolutely ruined me. I known it's just the learning curve of starting with a fresh teamTR but I also keep making bad reads and getting absolutely blasted by big 6 teams.
>when you thought you were being unique and clever with scarf vivillon but it's already been done to deathShould I be different and use focus sash instead?
Azumarils been so clutch lately, love this thing
>>59496954Personally I find Scarf more annoying cause i expect sash most the time it see that satanic butterfly but the flexibility in being able to choose rage powder and hurricane makes it less of a sleep bot and you aren't putting whim to sleep before it uses tailwind unless the opponent doesn't have protect to prevent fake out
>>59496976>putting whim to sleepMeant using hurricane on it whoops which would mean you'd have to switch it out to start sleep shenanigans
I hate playing against sinistcha and less so the giraffe but I love how they can enable shitmons and meme strats
>>59496976>>59496980You cant sleep whims at all, grass = immune to sleep powder anywho
Man I give up trick room is only good at beating retards
>>59497045Moxican Boosted vindicated
>>59497037Imagine a world where they never nerfed paralysis, sleep, prankster and unseen fist (for when urshifu arrives).
>>59497045I memed on a sneaky TR whims guy today. Cool team/idea but really obvious if you know and easy to dab on
>>59494706changed my team into a TR torkoal mawile and finally rank up on a streak
Is there any reason to use Vanilluxe over Ninetales? Vanilluxe always gets a surprising amount of usage. Though this is the first game where Vanilluxe experiences snow.
>>59497094Vanilluxe hits noticeably harder. Dunno if you've ever used either Ninetails, but they hit like pillows even when spamming Blizzards/Sun boosted fire moves.
>>59497045There are a bunch of retards that play this game, but you're right. Hard TR only works if your opponent lets you sweep when you get the first TR up or if they're stupid enough to let you get it up again.
>>59497094I was playing with a team I found on Twitter, Ninetails Alola, Kommo-o, Mega Glimmora, Whimsicott, Basculegion and Kingambit. I couldn't bring Ninetails even in good matches because it's really frail for a switch in and deals very little damage even with Never Melt Ice.
>>59497124The trick is to have a starting lineup that doesn't make it obvious you are prepared for TR. I've been using Quick Guard MSceptile with Roar Jolteon, two very fast pokemon that you would want to set up TR against and neither having the initial output to KO. Roaring out the Giraffe puts the opponent really on the back foot.
>>59497138>Msceptile jolteonHow does that even work?Unless youre choice scarf jolteon (99% sure you're not because of roar) or modest sceptile (lol), youre too slow to give sceptile the lightning rod boost before he attacksand sceptile misses a lot of kills unless he's +1 special attack
Ok I changed my strategy I just suck ass
>>59497189try cheating
>>59497178Max speed + speed nature Jolteon is 200. It's also base 130 speed, tied second for the fastest non-mega available.MSceptile at neutral nature max speed is 197, or you can +speed nature with 16 EVs in speed to hit 199. Unless the opponent has tailwind there isn't much that can out speed that duo, so they are going to get hit with a Discharge and then a +1 MSceptile.
I wonder how prankster Quash would do in open team sheets, there are times where it can't be stopped even when it's been revealed and there are times where the element of surprise is what makes it effective
>>59497204...I do, was that not clear?
>opponent realizes they can't win against my minimize stockpile stall so they attempt to timer stall me out>retard idles for too long and forfeits by inactionits just too easy
>>59497225Enjoy the slow climb with all your opponents doing that if you faint their mega ychu/pelipper/snow warning blizzard spammer
>lead Garde and Talonflame into Milotic and Incin>Garde traces Competitive>Intimidate kicks in>Competitive triggersEXCELLENT
>>59497229its comfy ngl. definitely slow, and it sucks when you get the eventual counter team (just went against a volcarona/gallade lead of all things) but it brings me joy knowing im making random people across the world mald they keep missing over and over
I wasnt supposed to leave Great ball in singles but my opponent was so shit even worse than the bot. Rip weeklies i never even knew ya
>20+ games with only seeing incin once in previewBuddies not liking the rise in milotic, tyranitar and mega raptor usage
>>59494690same fucking shitfaggot tierlists all placing him in B or lower rank and now Ychu is popular. braindead dogs
>raichu-x and arch, peli in the backsomehow managed to win that one but holy that bridge hit like a trick
>>59497255He's the King of VGC tho
>>59497300bridges can actually hit as hard as many trucks
>sitting on a 5 win streak at the tip of ultra 1 and dont want to go lose my next game
>>59497366Praise piplup and you will win
The free lamp has been putting in work for me in singles after i slapped minimize on him
>all the meme strats work in casuals>take them to ranked>lose points
>>59497366If your team wins more than it loses you should easily make MB, its best to play without the shackles of maintaining win streaks
>>59497255Gambit is his worst enemy and it's on lioe 60% of teams at every tournament.
>>59497416Only if it has low kick, but you don't ever want to give gambit a +1 for the safety of the other members on the team
>>59497381>>59497412yeah I won, I was just making it bigger than it really was thanks piplup and frens
ive had 3 retarded niggas parting shot into annihilape today
>>59494235Can anyone make a good argument for why I SHOULDN't forfeit as soon as I see a Mega Gengar use Perish Song? Even if I win, I could have won two normal games in the time it would have taken me to beat that shit.
>>59497582if you just want fast wins, then i suppose there isnt a good argument for staying in a long match.Same goes for no guard snorlax. You could spend time hacking down the bear, but with that effort you could be playing 3 matches normally as compared to someone protect spamming and clicking life dew
>>59497586It's also about enjoyment. The enjoyment I get from beating a perish trapper is minimal comapred to the slog of actually playing against it.
make rock slide 90 BP with 100% accuracy and remove the ability for it to flinch PLEASE
>>59495468erm life orb scizor one shots floette and sylveon THOUGH, also if you put CC on it it's good vs kingambit
>>59497593Just use gravity if you hate missing so much
>>59497098>>59497127Now that I think about it I barely see Alolan Ninetales anymore. I guess it doesn't help that snow just isn't very good. I was looking at the other snow warning Pokémon and they don't get used much. It at most sometimes cucks rain who doesn't have a mega rain setter. The bonus of 110 power blizzard never missing isn't as useful as 90 heat wave + 50% damage. I've never been afraid of Mega Froslass because so many things shut it down like a fire type or dark type. It doesn't offensively boost the main type or passively benefit other types by weakening a type. You can't build a "snow team" because it would just be all ice types and maybe Slowking. I think sand has a similar problem with how passive it is and how you end up just stacking a bunch of Pokémon with the same weaknesses. The only well thought out weathers/terrains are sun and rain.
>>59497300i tried this and lost every time
>>59497601should I just remove swords dance then? also I assume bullet punch because he does not outspeed floette to survive a double up
>>59497607Snow has the advantage of being the most neutral weather that can disrupt your opponents weather but you don't need to build your team around it.
>>59497627Well when I look at ice types, most of them that might benefit from snow aren't in the game.>Walrein>Alolan Sandslash>Articuno>Eiscue>Arctozolt>Arctovish>Cetitan>Iron Bundle>BaxcaliburWalrein and the fossils in particular never experienced snow so I wonder if they'll be any good. Of course Walrein can't be used to stall infinitely but it couldn't for generations already. Snow being set and forget still doesn't seem very good though. Every Ninetales I ever faced basically just shows up, sets aurora veil if it can manage to then dies or does a small slap like brought up if it doesn't die then dies.
>>59497660baxcalibur also has a mega in ZA, did they reveal the ability?
>>59496475Floette isn't mythical.
>>59494583Even 45 would be fine. Having a spammable base 90 move after losing one Pokemon or 135 when down to your last two is reasonable.
>>59497607A-Ninetales won the most recent VR, it's still the best screen setter for teams that aren't using weather as part of their gameplan (can also do fast encore/disable shenanigans), it's just that 90% of teams either need their weather or don't have a free slot for a screen botbut yeah "snow teams" just aren't a thing, excadrill being a pokemon that exists + breaking sash is enough to justify sand, trying to use snow for anything other than cucking opposing weather is a mistake
holy shit snealser is too op there are too many games that i should've lost but won because of him.
I thought Mega Garchomp Wizard would be stronger but it seems kinda meme, the damage is really only good in sandstorm but it’s hard to get sandstorm and speed control at the same time
>>59497860>Mega Garchompwut?
>>59497869many people are running spatk invested mega garchomp now because the physical variant kept getting btfo by intimidate and burns
Ultra is so demoralizingjesus christ are free win bot matches not allowed.why is masters so gatekept?it really doesnt matter since you derank anyway
I've been fighting alot of Idlers latelyis there a cheese strat that I dont know about.if I disconnect my internet in the middle of a match, will I not derank or something?
>>59497944noit's either just people just dropping connection, salty players trying to waste your time, or retards who genuinely think they can timer stall to a draw
>>59497944VP farming? lol
I really want to use Golurk but it's only usable in hard trick room, it just doesn't do enough damage and got a cucked ability.>+15 special attackCunts.
>>59497996He'd be so much better if unseen fist gave intim immunity or had an autocrit move like Urshifu. After one intim, he's barely hitting for anything through protect, especially for off stab moves like ice punch.
>trade a shiny Alolan Raichu>Original from Alola, caught in 2019>No ribbons Don't you feel bad when you get old Pokemons like this? It feels like they were unloved by their original trainer
>>59498009I only trade my unribboned guys. Everyone with a ribbon is staying, has been and will be used in the future
>>59498004It has bad types that don't benefit from the ability. Water, dark and fighting have great contact moves. Ghost doesn't and ghost only barely got a not shit physical move. Excadrill and a lot of Pokémon with contact abilities have the same problem. Ground types want earthquake but it's a waste to use it. Mega Excadrill has something like sub 10% usage which is completely pathetic. Barbaracle and Aerodactyl don't benefit from rock moves because there barely are any with contact and head smash doesn't get distributed to them. I get limiting Aerodactyl from moves but the rest could use a boost.
>>59494266>settings: delete account>make a new one with a new random batch of pullsHurry while they still give 500 tickets to new accounts
>>59498028Excadrill has the added issue of sand rush being so good and forcing you not to mega. No Guard doesn't offer nearly as much utility, so at least you aren't facing the opportunity cost of losing normal golurk's ability.>head smashDoubly funny given aero's ability and what it was used for in gen 3 singles
>>59494266Get the master rank title on all your home shinies
>try out the Smogon spread for Mega Garde in Champs>Thunderbolt the opposing Basculegion>he McFucking DiesMight tweak it a bit.
>>59498031I see Mega Excadrill as more of an extension of the mold breaker set. But piercing drill still isn't useful. The horn drill thing is so niche you basically have to call a protect. Maybe I could pair it with something with encore but then no one will ever use protect and just try to kill Excadrill. It just doesn't have a moveset that can justify the ability. Iron head and high horsepower don't cut it. And they don't want to give it more moves like close combat because people would just use those without the mega. >look at Mega Excadrill's stats>+15 special attackFUCK.
>>59496336>The only slush rush user is bearticWas thinking of Sandslash actually, Alolan, who also has Slush Rush (as hidden)But I do need a counter against Charizard, but Focus Sash Avallug might be what I need
>>59498120Hisui Avalugg fucks
Can we PLEASE get a SINGLE (ONE) Rock move that has 100 accuracy 80 powerPLEASE just a single one
>>59498137Here you go bro
>>59498139>SpecialDoesn't count
people will say "whatever, you can't kill the farig in one turn, just focus on the partner" as if it simply existing on the field doesn't shut down the main ways i have to deal with said partner
>>59498137Play no guard Lycanroc
>>59497996Uh I've got nothing. I don't know how to build around Golurk. I feel like this team would easily be destroyed by fairy types.
>>59497970I had that once when they thought they had the upper hand after one shotting my vivi but left my blastoise get shell smash off and switched in a grass pokemon. After one-shotting both pokemon with water pulse, suddenly every action was taking the full timer amount. Just forfeit bro, it's over.
>>59497944I do this to stall teams, fuck them
Garchuds...
>>59498341>gambit 6->1>farig 8->4who is responsible for this, i hate it
When are they adding the announcer from pokemon stadium
>enemy vivillon dodges heat wave in TR>it gets a 3 turn sleep right after>as soon as I come out of sleep rock slide flinches meYeah, idk. Not sure how I could've managed that luck like the pros do.
>>59498517>very next game>enemy meowscarada gets a double protect off on what would have been a fake out killIdk what this game is trying to tell me. How could I have stopped that? Seems like half the game is luck and players relying on luck
>>59498371In 5 minutes
>>59498534>seems like half the game is luckbecause it literally isgame freak likes it this way because it means dumb timmies always have a chance to win no matter how dumb they are, get used to it
>>59498341kingambit is so broken
life orb scizor is so strong bros, rapes kingambit firafirig whimsicott aerodactyl floette sylveon and a bunch of others
>>59498534>very next game>9% hp garchomp burned with a life orb uses rock slide on two of my ground types just hoping for a flinch >he gets a double flinch and dies then his sylveon kills them both with a hyper voice crit Lol. Is this competitive pokemon?
>chandelure lead>opponent dragonite opens with heat waveare we sure there aren't bots in master ball
>>59498594competitive pokemon is luck management
>>59498594How many matches have you seen come down to a double protect, flinch, random status etc? Luck has always and will always be a deciding factor in some matchesGenerates hype for the crowd though and TPC seem to like it so we just have to learn to allow it to not fuck with our mental or go play a less random game
>>59498617>finally won one>the enemy tried to double protect two different times and actually would have beat me if it workedYeah, I don't think I'm having fun. This shit isn't good at all. It's like Chess except there's a 40% chance every turn some guy will jump onto the board and cancel your move. I want to like it but it's so difficult when every player I've played today has not only gone for the RNG plays but actually seems to actively pursue them. Like he's sitting at his switch or whatever just saying "please flinch, please last 3 turns, please double protect, please xyz" instead of actually thinking through attacks.
>>59498646hmm I haven't really ran into that problem desu.If "random" protects and chance is affecting you that much, I think that's more to do with you not having control over the tempo/speed of the gameTry a more speed-controlling setup maybe something as simple as a Tailwinder
>>59498069Weren't people using horn drill + stomping? I agree it's a bad meme set, but I thought the point is even when it fails you get the 2x damage from stomping
>>59498656It was in a trick room game on my hard TR team. I set up TR properly with a fake out support and turn one took zero damage on either Mon. I was full advantage in speed. He was just stalling trick rooms by trying to double protect in specific moments and off bulky pivot switch ins. You've never had this problem? I call bullshit. In fact I guarantee youve lost to flinches or crits. You probably are in the camp that thinks it affects 20% of games and I'd normally agree with you, but I posit on a bad day it affects 40% of games, and today, for me, it was half of the 8 games I played (50%) lost to brazen luck.
>>59498670>You've never had this problem?No, It's cringe and I hate it and it's why I started avoiding chance moves on my side because missing is cringe.Sometimes it's a bit rough because of how Gen 8/9 made the games really offensive-oriented so if the % proc chance triggers you just fucking die2 Stall teams going against each-other was boring but I am not sure if this hyper-mega meta with every mon just 1shitting the other one is fun eitherAlso Protect really needs a 1/1 or maybe 2/2 max PP I like protect and what it does but people spam it way too often
>>59498670Trick room is just extremely vulnerable to random bullshit and not that great in this game because we’re not allowed to have Indeedee
>>59498664No one is using it at all. I checked and it's actually 2.4% Mega usage. That's catastrophic. They way under tuned it. Doesn't make sense since it barely learns any contact moves and any it learns are pretty weak. Even if they gave it a fully not nerfed unseen fist I wonder how much people would use it.
>>59498689how does indeedee fix trick room?
people keep bringing their sneedler to fight my mono ghost gimmick team and it perplexes mei know 90% of the time that thing is carrying fake out (useless), close combat (useless), and dire claw (resisted)
Just got a Polar Vivillon. What's a good team I can use it in?
>>59498767Bulky TR setter that sets terrain on entry, indeedee warps the entire game never mind just changing trick room
>>59498670>my hard TR teamNo wonder you lost
>>59498830>70hp/65def>bulky
>guy brings politoad and just spams hypnosiscertified brown moment
>>59498860105SpD and you can bet your ass itll be invested heavily in bulk, it was a monster in VGC and it'll be a monster here. To suggest otherwise is either bait or incompetence
>>59498862>Love milotic>everyone's using it to spam coil and hypnosisIts so fucking cringe bro thats supposed to be my queen
Seed Indeedee female....
>>59498918InSeedee/ Armarouge expanding force spam would tear through the champions ladder like crack tore through the hood
>when the enemy gets cocky with a max speed pokemon with tailwind up but your sinistcha has a trick room to counter other trick roomI can only imagine their face when they realize their max investment in speed actually bites them in the ass because they don't have enough damage to one shot my sinistcha and now my normal team counter sweep them
>>59498929Neither really need a Spdef boost, though. That's why it was good on a super sweeper like Calyrex. Armarouge would rather run weakness policy and get flip turned by an ally
>>59498945>your face when the turn you go to reverse the trick room actually his attack flinches / freezes the sinistcha and it fails >your entire counter strat that you devised lost to luckPokemon hehe
>>59498814blastoise. i guess
SOVL CHECK:Life Orb ScizorMega LopunnyMega AerodactylSinistchaBulk Up AnnihilapeScarf Hydreigon
>>59499057Not really soul if its just meta slop in a different group of 6 is it?
>>59499075erm none of those are meta say sorry
>>59499076lol sure bud
SOVL CHECK:Mega GardevoirGarchomp @ Life OrbMega FroslassTalonflameMausholdSinistcha
>win 1 game>close the game for like an hour because I'm afraid it was just lucky and if I play more I'll start losing
>>59497944People idle time me simply cause im in a winning position, doesn't matter if I had a Play Rough miss earlier in the game, an unfortunate crit against me, blizzard freeze etc, if i comeback from rng bullshit or simply outplay the opponent it makes them seethe
wtf am I supposed to do in singles?
teams that have a setup sweeper mode and a trick room mode are ladder terrorism literally just 50/50 gambling degeneracy on whether you guess the right lead or not
>>59499094>protect the queenNot SOVL
Do hard TR guys realize that their shit is literally just nerfed Tailwind of another name? Think about it. >have to waste one turn to set up TR, so you only get 4 turns of it>it guaranteed goes last so your other slow mon loses the speed battle at first >tailwind guy does the same thing as you (establishes speed control) but does it with shit like whimsicott that has priority, or fast things like talonflame that always get it off before everyone else>it applies same turn so it speed boosts the already fast mon it's next toHard TR is literally nerfing yourself for no reason in this game
>>59499216Tailwind lasts one turn less and has to invest in speed EVs to not get outsped under Tailwind. TR is worse atm because Charizard Kanto is too much immediate damage but it has advantages
>>59499216trick room has some important advantages over tailwind that can make it worth the slower setupfor one it turns any mon heavily invested in speed into a liability while turning mons with good stats in everything but speed into god mode for 4 turns meanwhile a mon has to be at least decently fast already to take full advantage of tailwind, so while it is easier to set up it's also less impactful and tailwind itself gets countered by trick room
>>59499141get your opponents to 0 hp
Incineroar actually sucks in this regulation, thanks for the free belly drum after i fake you out with raichu dumb goofy bipedal cereal mascot wrestler cat thingy
>>59499216It punishes Whimsichud. But most Trick Room teams are easier to force a Double KO into if they don't lead a Fake Out mon.
>>59498585What's your Scizor looking like?
>>59499141Predict the Lead and maintain the pace of the game.
>>59499216At least you get to make your mons bulkier in TR
>try running zard y heatwave slop>miss miss miss double miss miss >it misses on multiple sinistchas that are actively switching into it Lol
>>59499321wait until you find out who gets trick room arm yourself with this knowledge so you know when the demon is going to sneakily set it up when you expect tailwind
>>59499317the meta right now is oops all special attackers so yeah his main niche is not a big deal at the moment
>>59499358*well, except kingambit (who has defiant) and basculegion (who hits so hard intimidate doesn't even matter)
i slightly tweaked how the zero-sum game works in the type-only analysis i did earlier. instead of only having STAB moves available, a population member can randomly have neutral or even super effective non-STAB moves available. some heuristics are used to ensure things like a pure ice using fire is almost impossible, and also to ensure things like having a neutral move against normal type is more common than having a neutral move against steel for example (but it's just heuristic, it does not use actual game data, this is purely an analysis of which type is best regardless of the actual pokemon/game). anyway, here are the results now with some included info about what the rankings actually mean: https://rentry.org/pkmn_type_theory
time to get my one game done and call it a day
>1804>still MB4 with barely any days into the season
is part of the reason there's so much kingambit is there's nothing that really competes with its niche? what other bulky sucker punch merchants are there? h-samurott? mega mawile i guess?
>>59499416it doesn't let anyone into mb3 or higher until after the first weekat 1800 you'll almost certainly be out of mb4 when it updates
>practice meme strats in casuals>players play like those bots you get from losing in Great Ball and Poke Ball>take meme strat to ranked>players play like hyperfocused meth heads
>>59499423Basculegion and sylveon hatred probably
>>59499423It has no counters that are meaningful. Fighting types get absolutely prolapsed by the sheer amount of oneshotting special attackers and he has high attack with a STAB move that makes him always go first. He can't be stat dropped either so if he has a foothold in a game he's probably winning it. The meta forced all his counters out.
They're distributing Ash Greninja in worlds....
>>59499438thts gay they should give it to everyone, if they want something special they have home medals for that
>>59499438It's just a regular greninja
>>59499436sneasler
>>59499436mega emboar does this in theory (decently specially bulky and neutral to fairies) but ain't nobody using mega slot on that
mfw I sweep the enemy team with eruption
>>59499436Force them into a desperate sucker punch and send in Colbur Berry ceruledge
>>59499457>choice scarf eruption hisuian typhlosion lead paired with char y Is this the sloppiest of meta slop? What would stop it in theory? A fake out and a trick room maybe?
>>59499457I know charizard is fellated enough by game freak but I unironically wish he had Tailwind for better support paired with typh hisui
>>59499460also loses to rain teams
>>59499460>typhlosion>metalol?I'm not saying your idea is bad but typhlosion is not meta rn
>>59499460Politoed, opposing tailwind with you not having it up, wide guard, Pelipper, Tyranitar, Ceruledge (if you don't predict the switch)
why do i always play like a retard if i see the giraffe in team preview? it doesn't even matter if they lead with it, my mind gets do fucked and i make poor decisions
Sleep powder is a necessary evil against Kingambit, only mon i don't feel immoral for using it against along with farigaraf, zard and garchomp
>>59499489you may suffer from giraffe derangement syndrome
>>59499489it's not just youhaving that stupid thing in team preview creates so many mindgames just by existingdo I run my fake out lead or will it be useless? is it a fast lead with farig to block priority or is it trick room? etc.
>>59499489I had a game where I was too giraffe conscious that I got swept by aerodactyl of all things cause i wouldn't use aqua jet, if i see it in preview on a non TR comp i just make a mental note to not use Fake Out and just Zap Cannon T1
>>59499489>Ok I'm playing against the giraffe so no priority moves>Turn 4-5>Dang I'm outsped by their partner, but it's low HP and scarfed into an attacking move, easy prey for a sucker punch>FUCK
>>59499460Put a rain setter in the back swap it or you can just use a sucker punch from a kingambit
Why isn't Aerodactyl played more? Great into the zardslop
>>59499533mega or support non mega you mean?
>>59499533>great into zardslopIs it? A lot of zardslop also has rainslop now.And venusaur outspeeds you with powder in the sun?
Sad that the only way to save mega sharpedo is Fishous Rend but that'd make 2 ridiculous fishmons with absurdly powerful moves that shouldn't exist to deal with
>>59499331max hp max attack adamant with bullet punch, cc, bug bite and protect, but i might switch protect out for knock off so i can kill basculegion
>send my scizor in to a tyranitar thinking it will be an easy revenge kill>it's actually speed / spa spread mega ttar with flamethrowerI went on to win that game but holy fuck it's like God himself sent that tyranitar to fuck with me
>>59499756Doesnt he just get owned by any fire move regardless? Or does he live heat wave with max HP?
>finally run into a haze user on my minimize/stockpile/psych up teamim surprised its taken this long desu
New bread>>59499922>>59499922>>59499922
>>59499057all soul except teaslut and cringe ape.
KINGAMBIT IS OP KINGAMBIT IS OP KINGAMBIT IS OP KINGAMBIT IS OP KINGAMBIT IS OP KINGAMBIT IS OP KINGAMBIT IS OP