Plus, they still haven’t even released season 4 part 4 on Netflix…

>>59498197
>le pacing
If you're serious about this go get your adhd checked

Whats season 4 part 4? You mean season 3 part 4?

Ye.

>>59498197
Go to /padt/

>>59498197
>Fag vents in a separate thread than the anime general

>>59498214
>the pacing is not an issue

>>59498197
I haven’t watched since they went to school in Paldea and from the bits and pieces I’ve seen online I’m not really interested in catching up

Its undoubtedly has become the absolute worst Pokemon anime series yet , even worst than BW series. Some people pretend to praise it because they think defending a "serious" pokemon anime without Ash Ketchum would make them look smart. The same trolls that spend the entire Dragonball thread complaining over Goku being the worst MC ever.

>>59498272
Get a job Fagmon. Not everyone who sucks up with your views is a "troll" out of personal stakes.

>>59498272
The least conspiratory post.

How asshurt do you have to be that people like something you hate, hobo?

>>59498197
He's not coming back.

>>59498197
Nah I liked it immediately, the mystery around the pendant had me invested. Granted this was before we fully knew what Terapagos even was so that made it a lot more interesting.
It is kinda slow at the beginning, I really disliked how long they kept the "Liko doesn't know that Dot is Gurumin" joke going. But it does pick up the pace eventually, around the Terastal arc I'd say.

Dang, already so many replies… honestly I agree with the majority of these comments… the truth is it’s been an absolute train reck sense I found out Roy had a black rayquayza in an ancient poke ball the entire time, felt like a total face slap… and honestly the fact that they won’t even bring ash up once even though he is the world champion is crazy.

>>59498197
>>59498300
>>59496468
This you?

Ye?

Im honestly just asking…

Whats that last one thought?

>>59498280
>>59498282
> A doormat whose only defining trait is being nice & having magic ancestors.
> A cheap Ash-clone whose entire character is getting everything handed to him by doing hoge hoge hoge.
> A non-binary streamer nowhere near as cute as Iono or Canari.
> A green hair brat that add nothing to the story.
> Five useless adult
> The main villain's goal is still unknown even after the main story ended.
> Core Legendary Pokemon treated as family heirloom & punching bag instead of legendary pokemon.
> Champions are just gym leader tier trainer.
> The serious villain team are even bigger jobber than freaking Team Rocket.
> All the authority figure turned out to be so weak & pathetic that they need children to do their job.
> Everybody gets dumbed down to make the villain look smart.
>> " Y-you can't criticize it, Y-you are just s-salty Ashfag".

Unlike you, I have actual arguments behind my claim.

>>59498332
Generalizing most remarks to the most basic trait that can easily be used against 80% of the average Pokemon cast in any media while projecting your whole obsession with posters who like the show as "trolls" or out to hate Assh are not arguments, they are lackluster strawmen points.

Good job proving people right on your whole fixation of demeaning or degrading every other opinion that isn't yours. No wonder you became a homeless maggot whose tantrums are easily trackable in the archives like a broken record.

lol accurate, the villains really are total jobbers

>>59498197
dude only a manchild so far gone that they have no more hope of even "beating" their manchildness would enjoy this season

>>59498346
>that can easily be used against 80% of the average Pokemon cast in any media
Thanks for proving that you never watch any previous pokemon anime.

All the former cast of Pokemon anime had more defining traits than Pokemon 2023 cast. Misty, May, Dawn, Iris , Lana and even Serena weren't doormat like Liko. Ash wasn't some Gary Stu who gets everything handed to him because he did hoge hoge hoge offscreen. Brock and Cilan along were more useful than all the adults of Brave Asagi. The serious villains like Hunter J and Team Galactic/Plasma/Aqua/Magma weren't jobber like The Explorer. Even joke rival Barry had more character than Uruto.

So I don't get what make you think any of my argument over Pokemon 2023 can be use against the cast from Original , AG , DP or even SM series.

>>59498346Imagine taking a Pokémon thread this seriously lol, also I get it if you don’t agree with me, just don’t bother to respond. I could not care less, crashing out because everyone doesn’t like the show you like is just anoying.

>>59498373
>Thanks for proving
Proving what, your robotic impulsives to say the same shit everytime someone even insinuates the same simplicity applies to your SI as well because something being somewhat alike is a personal attack on your fragile ego? Being more robotic on doubling down than swallowing up and letting different opinions exist is too painful for you?

>>59498379
If your only insertion of engaging with the replies of your thread is in favor of defending a lolcow rather than addressing the point made regardless of the stand then you shouldn't be shocked why your venting is not taken at face value.

>>59498381
>your robotic impulsives to say the same shit everytime
You mean pointing out everything that is wrong with Pokemon 2023 series that you refuse to acknowledge and want everybody to just overlook it and pretend to praise Pokemon 2023 because Ash is not in the show. You so far have no argument over Pokemon 2023 being better than any pokemon series and your entire response is basically attacking me while I actually did point out everything that is wrong with Pokemon 2023 series.

>>59498381it is never that serious bro, please take a deep breath, it’s just a Pokemon thread Im just going to stop talking to you, all of these comments you’re making just say that you’re accusing people of the stuff you do, it’s Pokemon just chill

>>59498394
>You mean
Can't even start off a simple discussion without immediately trying to undermine or infer any other position as something that fits your view? Half your stance is just outdated or as easily exaggerated as the average impression of a drop out for earlier seasons while the rest emits the impression of "Everyone who doesn't accepts my points or values is wrong, every argument no matter even if it's just directed at the show or my logic is an attack on me and not the problems in my arguments, I am allowed to call anyone else trolls or bootlickers but you can't call me bad names that fit my poor behaviour". Your initial post is literally jump-starting that everyone who likes it no matter to what extent is a troll which perfectly highlights your asinine position and inability to belong in an objective discussion. Tumblr is infinitely more suited for you than an board where your attitude documented for starting shit between waifu threads or reporting everyone who doesn't suck you off till they get nuked ruins the point of anonymity.

>>59498197
>I can't bring myself to care about the new cast
This specifically is what killed my interest in HZ, all the characters are boooring, the only one with interesting dedicated episodes was Dot but that was a long time ago and now with Nevi (ugh) she will get even less focus

>>59498412
All you did is just describing yourself and no actual argument behind anything I said to be wrong. You posted no argument behind Pokemon 2023 series being good or how any of the former cast of Pokemon anime to be anything like Pokemon 2023 cast.

>>59498424
>All you did was describing yourself
This level of projection is neither helpful or constructive while completely ghosting (You) undermining anything people like or might like about the anime. How about leaving instead of flying off like a door handle is made out of butter.

I enjoy the soundtrack that came with Rakua and the explorers and the Ludlow episodes are my favorites.

Totally fair, i definitely agree

>>59498444
>This level of projection is neither helpful or constructive while completely ghosting (You) undermining anything people like or might like about the anime
Like how you undermining any criticism toward Pokemon 2023 and believe everybody should praise Pokemon 2023 because you like it.

>I enjoy the soundtrack that came with Rakua and the explorers and the Ludlow episodes are my favorites.
You mean the episode with an 100 year old manchild ranting over nobody playing him and Zygarde had to fight a pointless battle just to stop his tantrum instead of just shooting Core Enforcer in his face. The very fact that this series insist this manchild is the only people in the world that Zygarde considers worthy to be its partner is basically an insult to Zygarde's lore

>>59498460
I was talking about the soundtrack, not the episode where the kids reached it. Did you really in your rush of projecting your bullshit onto me really forgot to completely read the post or was it an episode of "Someone said something not negative about Rakua REEEE"?
Either way, your attitude is terrible and it's not a surprise why not even any waifufag is even putting up with your faggotry.

>>59498474
>I was talking about the soundtrack
Soundtrack does not defend all the poor writing and disrespect Pokemon 2023 series done to entire pokemon anime. This series has insulted the lore of the legendary pokemon, ranks of the champion, the worldbuilding of pokemon anime and the hard efforts of all the previous main characters to shill a couple of garbage OC who can't do anything without special privileges.

>>59498479
So I can say one thing and you blow off to make it about something else, effectively rendering anything said about the anime irrelevant because your ego can't handle different takes? What does an old man who likes to fish have to do with unhinged rants that aren't nearly as strongly echoed as you make them out to be or as relevant because they don't impact the experience to the same extent your bubble is? Or are you one of those queermos who will try to say some group got pissed off about something while said group doesn't care about it?

>>59498249
It isn't. Its a buzzword to justify not liking something.
And yeah, if you think Horizon's plot moves slow you do have adhd.

>>59498300
>train reck sense I found out Roy had a black rayquayza in an ancient poke ball the entire time
so ep 1?

>they won’t even bring ash up once even though he is the world champion is crazy
It isn't even the same universe

>>59498364
You're literally posting in the board for a franchise for kids.

>>59498485
Have you read the title of this thread? Its quite literally asking people to vent over Pokemon 2023 series and that exactly I am doing. You liking Soundtrack does not change the disrespectful mess Pokemon 2023 series has turned out to be.

If you have problem with people venting their frustration over Pokemon 2023 series then maybe you shouldn't have entered this thread.

>>59498502
So you use a thread about an anime to as an excuse to vent more and foremost about posters, making the point of the thread useless. Not a single thing is allowed to be said that hurts your venting safe space, just blind faith that anything you claim about others is true. And tripling down by ignoring the Ludlow bit shows out how little you're willing to be objective even at the cost of face value falling into the gutter. Every anon who documented your nonsense was spot on, becoming homeless was the natural outcome of thinking and treating every single difference in entertainment or worldview as an personal assault on you.

>>59498507
I am using a thread about venting over anime to vent over my frustration with legit reasoning. You on the otherhand shown no argument over why Pokemon 2023 isn't the worst pokemon anime series. Your entire logic that nobody allowed to criticize Pokemon 2023 because its your favorite series, that's it!

Lublow doesn't add a freaking thing into this show. " Oh no , an old man that can grow muscles" , sorry but we already seen the gag like that with Ash and Goh on Pokemon 2019 series. He is just useless comic relief old man who is simply in the show because Gekkostate had an old man like him on Eureka Seven and Dai Sato just copying that.

lol

Don't argue with the homeless brown schizo, he's always gonna say the same shit, he just wants his self-insert back and hates every single animated Pokémon related thing without him
Do I have to remind you that he singlehandedly ruined Paldean Winds threads? It was literally impossible to talk about cause he would spam nonstop, and there he didn't even try disguise it as "genuine critique", he was just spamming schizo rants about Ash and Serena or some bullshit

>>59498554
That's just every ashfag regarding non-Ash media.

>>59498519
>Don't point out me losing my shit over people having the audacity to like the show, it's me being right. Trust me bro
Imagine being so toxic and genuinely wrong about so much that not even waifufags would jump on board for the delusion of comradery. Oh wait I don't have to imagine it, you embody all of it.

And you immediately zeroing in on a gag that has been used fewer times than his other angles of his characteristics under the angle of valuing time and age-related issues that can occur in any stage of life. It's all about who did it first to you, isn't it? Entertainment is not monopolized by who did it first, it's about which one it entertains and I am entertained by it. While you could've been fine with not liking it, you turn the most common sense way of thinking into a competition unprompted to feel better about your while dragging non-Pokemon shows into to make a point that is not even there. Not only a hobo but also factually wrong. I would seek out employment forms fast. Then again, getting oppositions nuked is what you prefer to that, isn't it? Is the cafe wifi working or did they forgot to cut you out from it again?

>>59498554
Yeah I realised it with the latest tangent bring it up the buff argument. Then again, I shouldn't be shocked with someone like him who has gotten anons nuked even for citing sources because they don't fit his fantasies.

>>59498560
Ashfags actually praised shorts like Tsubomi's Dream, Final Twilight Wind episode, Pokemon Chronicles and B2W2 animated promo. If anything, its non Ashfags that pretend to hate everything with Ash because they desperately wants Pokemon to be like Yugioh.

>>59498560
Yes but he's possibly the king of Ash autists, he literally became homeless because all he did was posting about Ash online to the point where his parents kicked him out
He literally leeches public wifi in fucking Bangladesh to get into these pointless fucking "arguments"
Point is just fucking ignore him

>>59498571
>Ashfags actually praised shorts like Tsubomi's Dream, Final Twilight Wind episode, Pokemon Chronicles and B2W2 animated promo
That's just revisionism, not the first time you try.

Dude, I understand your opinion. But if you like that show then stop texting this thread, it’s called venting about Pokemon horizons, not venting because not everyone likes Pokémon horizons. Just saying.

>>59498564
Again projecting yourself on me.

As always, you still haven't posted a single argument over Pokemon 2023 being better than any pokemon series and just attacking me to hide your lack of argument. Your entire pasta still haven't proven Lublow to be important or add anything into the show. He is just another useless adult character that was added to copy Eureka Seven.

>>59498587
Kind of late to play the "leave us be" card

That’s fair, although I sorta asked you guys to calm down 20 messages ago…

>>59498579
Its no revisionism , Ashfags always praise Pokemon anime that is good even if that did not include Ash. Furthermore Ashfags actually criticize both SM and Pokemon 2019 for their poor writing even though Ash won instead of sugercoating them and you can find my post to be among them.

Unlike non Ashfags who are willing to defend this poorly writing disrespectful mess like Pokemon 2023 series and attack anybody who criticize Pokemon 2023 series just because Ash is not in the show.

>>59498588
>you still haven't posted a single argument over Pokemon 2023 being better than any pokemon series
Why making it a competition, why turning it unprompted into an retarded genwar? Why should I even bother if everything that gets raised is met with "doesn't count" or "Earlier show does it better and you're wrong anyway"?

Forget it, you haven't changed even after hitting the streets and I am not shocked if that's how you will end, you in your mind against the entire world because of an anime.

>>59498597
True.

>>59498490
this retard genuinely can't tell good from bad pacing in what he watches, holy shit
hey dumbass, is "character development" a buzzword too?

>>59498598
>why turning it unprompted into an retarded genwar?
I didn't turned it into genwar.
I explained the exact reason for Pokemon 2023 series to be an disappointment with actual argument until I got attacked by its defender who post no argument of me being wrong and instead resort of insult me.

If anything >>59498280 >>59498282 >>59498346 >>59498381 >>59498412 >>59498507 >>59498564 are just insults rather than arguments.

Honestly, how many people are in this chat anyways, can everyone just say 1. Just asking…

I’ll take that as everyone left…

>>59498597
>Furthermore Ashfags actually criticize both SM and Pokemon 2019 for their poor writing
Kek, that'd require them to care about writing.

Also, tomorrow or whenever you guys get back, please… please, stop trying to be so annoying.

>>59498635
Since Ashfags does mean they cares more about writing than the defenders of Pokemon 2023 series.

>>59498610
>hey dumbass, is "character development" a buzzword too?
Sometimes, but people can explain what character development is and how its bad, even if they're wrong.
"le pacing" is just a spell to justify not liking things.
When you stop copying words from youtubers you'll get it.

>>59498645
Except they always said that writing didn't matter because the ashnime was for kids.

Oh, boy…

>>59498647
>Except they always said that writing didn't matter because the ashnime was for kids.
Wrong, non Ashfags often says this everytime Ashfags complained over the show's lack of progression.

Yes, this thread is full of samefagging because nobody cares about horizons

>F aggot and his ironic copycat dogpiling each other again
Can the gentlemen step in to end this please? Its the same as months ago down to the words.

>>59498657
Nobody wanted good writing and progression as much as Ashfags and they wanted proper way that wasn't lazy and keep his character consistent. This is why Ashfags are disappointed with Master Tournament despite Ash winning yet they got excited over MPM episode 02 because Ash behaved like his old self even though he lost to Misty in that episode.

>>59498647
hey, do you think a scene in a movie can ever be over too fast or go on for too long depending on the movie it is in?

>>59498648
Retarded newfag
You make a Horizon thread, you attract Famon and his endless seething about it, simple as
Hope you learned your lesson

>>59498197
>Anyone else struggling to stay invested?
Im not. On to the next thread.

>>59498197
You are not the target demographic, even though the demographic is your target, apparently.

>>59498679
yes
>>59498672
>Nobody wanted good writing and progression as much as Ashfags
Setting aside the good writing, if they wanted progression, why keep up 20 years of not getting it?

>>59498687
ok so you do believe pacing can have issues, good to know

>>59498695
No, I don't copy opinions from youtubers.

>>59498687
>if they wanted progression, why keep up 20 years of not getting it?
Why do you think they were angry & criticizing the anime? Why do think Kalos League lead to huge backlash? Why do think Best Wishes considered the worst series until Pokemon 2023 series happened? Nobody complained over the lack of progression as much as Ashfags. It was the non Ashfags that tried to defend it by comparing Pokemon with The Simpsons.

Why are animefags like this

>>59498701
>Why do you think they were angry & criticizing the anime?
Let's assume they did, for the sake of argument.
Why dedicate 20 years of your life to a show that you allegedly hate?
>It was the non Ashfags that tried to defend it by comparing Pokemon with The Simpsons.
I thought Famon liked Ash though?

>>59498714
Why are you giving that hobo an out to discuss himself in third person? You're just as bad and obnoxious as him.

>>59498685
>You are not the target demographic
Who were the target demographic again? Obviously it weren't the children due to how dialogue-heavy most episode tended to be. But it wasn't targeted adults ether because of its lack of logic.

>>59498720
If you weren't retarded you'd know the answer to your question.
>>59498723
>due to how dialogue-heavy most episode tended to be
ashfags seriously have adhd

>>59498714
>Why dedicate 20 years of your life to a show that you allegedly hate?
Because they loved Ash and wanted to watch his story. The same reason people kept following long running shonen manga for over 20 years. The same reason people still can't drop Rent-A-Girlfriend
>I thought Famon liked Ash though?
And he criticized XY&Z, SM and JN series harder than any non Ashfags.

>>59498736
>Because they loved Ash and wanted to watch his story.
You're not describing love
>The same reason people kept following long running shonen manga for over 20 years.
They do so because they like it
>The same reason people still can't drop Rent-A-Girlfriend
You say this as if I'm supposed to think anything good about RAG fans. And even then, it didn't last nearly as long as the ashnime
>And he criticized XY&Z, SM and JN series harder than any non Ashfags.
Yes, the ones bringing up other shows as attempts to argue are the ashfags.

>>59498742
>You're not describing love
I am describing love.
>They do so because they like it
Simply how they like Ash
>You say this as if I'm supposed to think anything good about RAG fans
Doesn't matter because RAG is the longest running and most successful romcom despite its garbage writing simply because of one female character.
>Yes, the ones bringing up other shows as attempts to argue are the ashfags.
Does not change that Ashfags willing to criticize Ashnime for their poor writing even if Ash wins while non ashfags can't even criticize Pokemon 2023 series for its poor writing and won't let anybody criticize it.

GO GO FUE CO CO
GO GO FUE CO CO

>>59498770
>Doesn't matter because RAG is the longest running and most successful romcom despite its garbage writing simply because of one female character.
...and?
you're aware ash is not female right?
>Does not change that Ashfags willing to criticize Ashnime for their poor writing even if Ash wins while non ashfags can't even criticize Pokemon 2023 series for its poor writing and won't let anybody criticize it.
It does not change your delusion sure.
But given the foundation itself makes no sense its just that, a delusion.

>>59498723
>dialogue-heavy
kek, how come you can say this lmao

Also you are autistically quoting every single post, please seek help or MAID/similar in your country.

>>59498803
>you're aware ash is not female right?
He is still one of the most iconic protagonist alongside Goku.
>It does not change your delusion sure.
Its only a delusion to non Ashfags.

My biggest gripe is that the first arc literally accomplished nothing
>assemble the six heroes and summon Lucius’s spirit to destroy the source of laquium
>mission accomplished.jpg as Lucius fades from existence
>literal seconds later we are back to evil guy macing his mons with strong spheres
>spreads to the global market by next season
>oh yeah and the 6 insanely strong Pokemon you left there to do nothing get captured by the baddies and they bootyblast your whole party to the point where bad guys just have to leave because it’s a kid show and Liko can’t just be murdered in cold blood
They accomplished less than nothing honestly

>>59498704
Autism

Ok, has everyone cooled down a little now? I know that this is for venting but that got a little out of control.

Is someone going to create a new one? Or do we now know that we can’t make a chat to talk about Pokemon, because now it seems like that’s a crime…

>>59498837
>>59498858
Don't make theeads about the anime here if you don't want to deal with famon's sperg outs. You don't need to make a new thread, it's just gonna be the same thing and you'll clog the catalog. Just go to /padt/ if you wanna talk about the anime, people there know how to ignore him.

>>59498820
>He is still one of the most iconic protagonist alongside Goku.
That's a completely different statement
>Its only a delusion to non Ashfags.
Yeah, I'm sure most people would agree that being a fan of X means you hate it
>>59498825
You're outright not describing "accomplish nothing". Amazing.

>>59498873
The entire point of a seething thread is the seething.

>>59498898
>That's a completely different statement
Not different
Long running series remain long running by using the popularity of its character to carry the show. Dragonball is carried by Goku, Doraemon is carried by Nobita , Detective Conan is carried by Conan, Rent-A-Girlfriend is carried by Chizuru and Pokemon anime was carried by Ash & Pikachu. A plot driven anime shouldn't be over 70 episode.

>Yeah, I'm sure most people would agree that being a fan of X means you hate it
I hate Pokemon 2023 series because I have enough legit reasons for it. You on the otherhand insist nobody can criticize Pokemon 2023 series because Ash isn't in the show.

Ok… I’ll try… RIP Pokemon thread, honestly if this thread had a few more people on it we could probably ignore him, but it’s a little tricky, how many people are on it?

>>59498919
>Not different
being female and being iconic are indeed two different things. You probably don't know this but Goku, conan, Ash and (his)Pikachu aren't female, therefore either they aren't iconic or being iconic doesn't equal being female. Hope this helps.

Also, weird you hate ash this much given how many other shows you brought up.

Is anyone actually going to use this thread anymore?

Vibe is completely dead here. Deleting this trainwreck in 15 minutes. If no one asks to keep it up then it’s gone, i just need at least 2 people.

>>59498950
>being female and being iconic are indeed two different things
My argument was never about being female, you insisted upon that. My argument is about one single character's popularity carrying a series even if it has absolute garbage writing. People complain over RAG poor writing yet they refuse to drop it simply because of Chizuru, same way Ashnime had issues but its fan couldn't drop it because of Ash.

I just tell everyone that this idiot actually invaded the Digimon Beatbreak thread on /a/ to bring up Ash and how he would make a better protagonist. He's that crazy.

>>59498992
I just want to tell*
Sorry, I'm currently at work so I'm rushing to type these out.

Ok, that’s it goodbye… sorry to some of you, not so sorry to others

>>59498992
Pretty sure the only thing they did was claiming Pokémon to be stronger than Digimon.

Time to delete I guess, probably one of the fastest moving chains in the Pokemon board, probably won’t remember it by tomorrow

If I can figure out how to…

>>59499009
You can't delete something this late.

>>59499009
Holy fucking newfag
Just go to /padt/ or alternatively fuck off forever

>>59499002
Nope, no power scaling. He literally brought up Ash as a better MC. He's that obsessed.

>>59498992
>>59499025
Pretty sure I admitted Beatbreak to have better writing than Pokémon Horizons. In fact I remember talking about powerscaling and Beatbreak superiority over Horizons.

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>>59498197
I know this is a Pokemon board but it's wild to me that people feel so passionate about a baby slop advertisement anime that was written by AI. I could understand the old mangas but the anime has been slop since at least Advanced.

>>59499029
>complaining about slop while posting slop

>>59498988
>My argument was never about being female
Yes, you said in >>59498770 that RAG was sucessful because of a female character

>Ashnime had issues but its fan couldn't drop it because of Ash.
sounds to me that they liked Ash

>>59499028
Having better writing than pokemon doesn't mean much. Horizons is just an average kids show. Its within the pokemon context that it become a relative masterpiece.
>>59499029
> the anime has been slop since at least Advanced.
The anime op is refering to is a different one.

>>59499103
>that RAG was sucessful because of a female character
Yes because Chizuru was a female
>sounds to me that they liked Ash
Isn't that exactly what I said?

>>59499103
>Horizons is just an average kids show.
Yet it barely make no attempt to be a kids show. Its as if it promoting itself as kids show and wants to target Eureka Seven audience.

>>59499251
>Yes because Chizuru was a female
Which, as said, is different from being iconic.
>Isn't that exactly what I said?
Your whole point hinges on ashfags hating ash anon.
>>59499255
>Yet it barely make no attempt to be a kids show.
It does though. The problem is that because your only other media experience is the ashnime the plot might seem to complex for you but its is squarely a kids show.

The moment Horizons decided to turn Roy into a Mary Sue version of Ash (including treating Caps like Roy's pokemon), it conceded defeat to Ashnime.

>>59499266
>Which, as said, is different from being iconic.
The point still stand, I used female so you wouldn't confuse Kazuya as the driving character of RAG.
>Your whole point hinges on ashfags hating ash anon.
When did I ever said that?
I said Ashfags does not hesitate to criticize Ashnime for its poor writing and decision unlike Likonime fans.
>It does though
It doesn't when you consider actual Kodomo anime such as Doraemon , Beyblade and Youkai Watch.
>The problem is that because your only other media experience is the ashnime
Stop projecting yourself on me because I actually watch other anime unlike you.

>>59499440
If he's so much like Ash why do you seethe constantly about him?
>>59499449
>, I used female so you wouldn't confuse Kazuya as the driving character of RAG
If you wanted to say "iconic" just say "iconic". Its not hard for reasonable people.
>When did I ever said that?
>>59498672
>>59498701
>It doesn't when you consider actual Kodomo anime such as Doraemon , Beyblade and Youkai Watch.
Which I do because I watched them instead of googling their names to pretend to have an argument. Which I could because I'm not desperate to have ash on screen.

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>>59499525
>If he's so much like Ash why do you seethe constantly about him?
Nobody likes a cheap copy of a masterpiece.
>If you wanted to say "iconic" just say "iconic".
Chizuru haven't became as iconic as Ash and Goku yet, she is just popular.
>When did I ever said that?
Still don't see where I said Ashfag hate Ash. I said Ashfag care about progression and good writing more than non Ashfag.
>Which I do because I watched them instead of googling their names to pretend to have an argument
Oh please, if you ever watched any of them then you would have known why Horizons sucks as a kodomo anime. You are the one who simply googled their name while I actually watched them both on internet and TV.

He's samefagging and he keep bumping the fucking thread. The fuck is his problem?

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>>59498197
I skipped everything up until they started doing the Gym Challenge in Paldea. The first 3 episodes seemed pretty good though but seemed eh (imo) without the traditional format of exploring/getting to know characters from the current mainline gen. Couldn't be bothered with all the anime original oc stuff at the beginning but once they started doing Paldea and began referencing shit like Kitakami, Blueberry Academy and ZA I was like, yeah it's time to check it out again.

>>59498332
Exactly this. I have never seen a show where every single character is terrible. They try to lazily compensate for their boring bland personas by going all wacky with these stupid-looking acid-trip character designs. Every character has neopolitan multicolored hair with odd random shapes sticking out, picasso color vomit clothes and retarded looking shapes for facial features (like ludlow with his simipour hairstyle, sausage eyebrows and a facemask beard). Imagine trying to claim that this freak show is somehow a "serious" anime. And now any hint of a plot has disappeared and theyre just handing out shiny legendaries and gimmicks like candy. Absolutely pathetic.

>>59500322
>Exactly this. I have never seen a show where every single character is terrible.
But enough about the TrAshnime. Horizons is full of great characters and Roy.

>>59500322
>I have never seen a show where every single character is terrible.
So you have NEVER seen a show like this? Not even Horizons is like this? Dumb esl faggot

>>59500517
>But enough about the TrAshnime
Ashnime character actually has a personality and fun chemistry with each other. Ashnime characters also had to earn everything because the world wouldn't bend to their will.

Characters like Alain & Roy are inspiration to all the lazy losers who hopes that if they do just "Hoge Hoge Hoge" then the world will bend to their favor and everything will fall to their lap. No wonder you think Roy and Horizons to be good.

>>59500541
Alain and Roy inspire ashfags?