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Water Absorb Edition

Pokémon Champions is a free to play online battle simulator available on Switch and mobile. It features ranked, casual and private battles for both singles and doubles, and will be used for VGC tournaments in 2026.

>News
Enter HAJ1MAR1G1FT for a free 100 Quick Coupons and CHAMP10N for a free Machamp.


>Resources and useful links
Community Tournaments usage data: https://pikalytics.com/
Ladder usage data: https://pokechamdb.com/en

New Player Guide(NEW PEOPLE READ THIS):
https://rentry.org/pcg-guide (now taking suggestions and feedback)
Anon made guide for brand new players to make a viable team with the starting pokemon: https://teamsheet.gg/t/sample-beginner-reg-b-vl3698

Quick FAQ
>Do I need my own Pokémon to play?
No, the game features a recruitment system, but transferring from Home is recommended to save time and resources.
>What makes the game so much more accessible than before?
All aspects of a Pokémon are customizable with VP, a currency earned simply by playing the game. IVs are also removed.
Ask in the thread if you want any specific Pokémon, and someone will respond.
>Is there single player content?
No.
>Do I need a Nintendo Online subscription?
No.
>What's the starter pack?
US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 Teammate Tickets (recruit Pokemon without using VP), 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music. Only available on Switch for now.
>Is anything locked behind a paywall?
So far everything gameplay relevant is also purchasable with VP. Only E-Floette require ZA transfer.

>/pcg/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread):
https://pastebin.com/d2FJZdPh

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The pied piper has met his match
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Dear Greninjafags
What team are you using? Or is it just not worth using the mega form?
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Cant believe i have to go back to whimsi, zard and grimm because of a 10 loss streak to my experimental teams.
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>>59500061
You WILL use ZARDSLOP!
ZARD was promised Worlds!
ALL GOYIM WILL YEILD TO THE ZARD!!
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i had 1950 elo earlier today but dove down to 1850 due to a loss streak, if i didnt play today would I have ranked into Champ?
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KINGAMBIT IS OP KINGAMBIT IS OP KINGAMBIT IS OP KINGAMBIT IS OP KINGAMBIT IS OP KINGAMBIT IS OP KINGAMBIT IS OP
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>>59500078
Nice of him to make these threads for us while sucker punching fish away
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>>59500074
It would be the same any day. It's your fate.
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Haven't seen a single Zard team all day. It's nothing but nonstop rain teams. What the fuck happened?
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Is Sinistcha just unicorn rare or something I've probably rolled 30 times since I started looking for it and it never shows up. Meanwhile I'm pretty sure I've seen this thing in every roll I ever got when I wasn't looking for it...
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>>59500111
The algo is playing funny tricks with you
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>>59500113
use your ghost tickets
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why isnt mega gardevoir used more she seems like a better sylveon
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>>59500132
takes up the mega slot so there's opportunity cost there + sylveon is like 90% of what she is + has more utility even if people run sylveon as hyper spam bot
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>>59500132
>needs a mega
>hence not splashable
otherwise, no she is really good. i see it sometimes.
Checking vgc pokepaste, sylveon and garde has similar usage in Reg-A, though massively dropped off in reg-B
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>>59500132
feels like there's a niche with garde having the ability to switch in premega on a friendly EQ or something like that with telepathy, but that's really situational
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>miss 3 head smashes in a row
>still barely win

What the fuck is this ladder?
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>>59500140
ive gotten her to trace lightning rod, intimidate or some other OP shit trace is hella good
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>>59500140
You should use telepathy anyway trace can fuck you over if it copies intimidate while Kinggambit or Milotic is on the field
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Let's see how rng pushes my shit in today!
>miss dual wingbeat twice in a row
t-thanks Gamefreak
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Zard sloppers never see the fake out venu + turn 1 tailwind coming. Feels like it's almost too obvious
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Feels like I win more not selecting either of my Megas for some reason
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I did it with my sovl (non-meta) team : scizor gardevoir annihilape teaguy aerodactyl and incineroar say something nice about me
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>>59500277
your trainer removes any soul in your team remaining after using incin, cup, aero and ape.
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>>59500264
what even is your team
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>>59500279
my aerodactyl is just to kill charizard teams so it counts as sovl, what you do is you lead with it and scizor but dont actually use it because once they see aero during selection they'll use their own aero or garchomp + kingambit, and scizor rapes both with bullet punch or CC and aero can use ice fang, i dont even have dual wingbeat
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does anyone else purposefully give their mons 1 speed point above or below usual so you consistently know you will go first or second
I know technically rolling for the speed tie is "better" but I don't like how unpredictable it is
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>>59500296
k. you use the cup and gay red guy. you are soulless and didn't earn MB for shit
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>>59500319
erm cup guy is honest since he's just a cup and my gay red guy has CC and expert belt so he's sovl too
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>sinistcha is honest
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perish trap players just wake up and choose to play like that? your gengar is dying to a 50 BP life orb last respects and your gonna click perish song turn 1?
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got to master ball with glimmora, wyrdeer, tsareena, kingambit, milotic, sneasler. this game is so fucking easy
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>>59500338
Your team is easy to pilot. It's not even unique. Try experimenting next time
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My team deals with the ZardY, whims, Chomp core. It deals with hard TR teams. It can manage Rain teams. But MStaraptor just causes trouble in general and I there aren't many changes I can make to my team, what do? (Scizor has since changed to Talonflame)
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>>59500416
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>>59500432
It's true but necessary, I'm afraid.
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If they do implement Ash-Frog, will they just make it a Mega that requires the KO, or have it as a "secondary Mega" akin to how it functioned in Gen 7?
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>>59500486
It cant be a mega. It functions similarly to the dolphin
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>>59500489
Wonder if that Special Greninja will be Ash or just the plain ass once per battle boost.
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>>59500282
Charizard Floette. I kept being matched against other Charizard Floettes.
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>Pokemon GO gets updates and event announcements almost daily
>Champions gets nothing new for months at a time with zero indication of what the plan is
This is also a unique in VGC because we knew what mons were legal in an upcoming regulation/season beforehand.
We knew nothing about MA, MB, and we won't know anything about MC until it drops.
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>>59500739
GO updates are utter dogshit thoughbeit.
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>>59500486
It's not busted in the real format, they can leave it completely untouched and it wouldn't matter.
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>>59500761
I'll run the bugger if he's legal in Ranked instead of running Mega Gyarados.
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>>59500739
GO is a mossad asset, so it's only best played to get shiny Melmetals.
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Is there some sort of matchmaking system that intentionally puts you against counter teams? I saw like 8 staraptors in a row so I switched some shit up to beat them then never saw one again
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>>59500822
Most likely.
When I dropped Incin, I stopped seeing any and all Defiant Kingambits.
I still see the shitter, but not as much.
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>>59500486
They won't. Look up the Reg J ban list for a laugh.
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>boot up
>first guy I fight gets a lucky crit on me winning him the match
>second guy I fight sends an excadrill in and raw horn drills turn one and gets it off, killing my aerodactyl

Yeah, gonna go do something else
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If I transfer my pokemon back to Home, do I have to spend VP to train it again if I transfer it over?
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>>59501028
No they'll retain their training unless you change their forms
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I was the one that asked about Vanilluxe vs Ninetales. Vanilluxe is based. Eats rain teams for breakfast.
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>>59501138
what do you run to deal with arch so he doesn't flash cannon your ice cream?
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>>59501151
Archaludon is always a late game cleaner. A bunch of special moves wears it down or Mega Staraptor gets it.
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I got bored and decided to make a completely f2p, recruit-only alt account and I'm already at ub1. Anyone who ends up getting hard stuck in great/ultra may want to consider killing themselves.
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>>59501172
>I am a mega autist who doesn't know what smurfing is

Well done bro
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>>59501198
I'm Champion on my upsmurf
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>farigiraf + vivillon lead
guys i think satan plays this game
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>>59501198
Oh I know what smurfing is, I'm just saying that you've gotta be turbo dogshit at this game if you're one of those people complaining about how they can't get past ub1. Almost every match on the way to master ball is free if you aren't a retard.
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I want to gimmickmaxx, a team with both zoroark and ditto. What other pokemon are weird gimmicky-mindgame-coded like them?
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>Favorite pokemon are Arcanine and Frosslass
>Both are slowly becoming viable to borderline meta
It's my time to shine and have fun bros is this where my enjoyment in the franchise peaks?
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>>59501311
What do you think is making Froslass better in the meta? Last time I played I assumed Froslass was solid in theory but all the most common pokes just screwed it over
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>>59501279
anything with skill swap can be funny
ally switch
choice scarf + trick
physical setup on special attackers or vice versa (e.g. swords dance archaludon)
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>getting near the end of a match
>communication error
>sent back to title screen
Is this something that regularly happens or was something fucked on my end? I've never really had connection issues with other games before.
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>>59501361
May be a coincidence but I've noticed this happening on matches where I get an achievement
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does ditto copy rage fist stacks
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>>59500400
if you say so lil bro, unlike you, I'm doing this with 0 speed control or weather
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>>59501415
I legit cant find an answer to this
you need to test it for science
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Shit Game
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>>59501415
Guessing no
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overkwill stallers are chads because they make other players seethe but are completely worthless free wins against my blizzard spam team
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>enemy Oranguru used instruct
>it doesn't affect Gholdengo
kek
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>>59501574
I've seen this one several times but with helping hand
I can't even blame them, I constantly forget that thing can't be encored either
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damn annihilape just completely assfucks that standard sand team, monkey goated
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staraptor is really strong on ladder because you can't know if your opponent is smart enough to play around your very obvious counter lead or not
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>>59501655
all of the teams that fuck me up the most are the same thing as this (two different cores that completely fuck you up if you guess the wrong one)
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I'd unironically be rank 1 if bascubullshit didn't exist
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Only reason im not rank 1 is cause of bad players using bustedlegion
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>>59501702
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>>59501218
Zap Cannon into bitter blade is usually how i deal with that crap
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>>59501561
I would beat them regularly when I used umbreon but sableye is simply better against other comps
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>>59500277
Congrats.
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I feel like "the meta" is vastly overstated at any level below like mb1 or champion
before then you can still easily win with weird picks and gimmicks if you're smart
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>enemy Sneasler used coaching
>it doesn't affect Gholdengo
kek
Gholdengo needs to come with an instruction manual
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>>59501800
I remember seeing someone try to Helping Hand Gholdengo, I didn't know the interaction either until then
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>>59501327
>choice scarf + trick
hey I do that, it's fun
farigiraf is a pain though and having no weather of my own is dicey sometimes
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>>59501861
drop power gem for protect
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I get way too mad at the complex side of a children's game
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>>59501886
Competitive Pokemon is a children's game in name-only like Yugioh.
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I tried Golurk a bunch. It's okay and I can get some wins in but in motion it's basically a big ghost ground damage machine with no ability. The unseen fist nerf was overkill and it's only useful if an enemy has a sliver left. Trick room is a hard requirement. If you do manage to get yourself into a good position of trick room and armor tail up it shreds opponents weak to it like Kingambit, Froslass and Archaludon. It also is good at walling Sneasler. Very weak team to Charizard Venusaur slop leads.
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i literally have to run passho berry incineroar to beat basculegion
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Only ran into generic rain once this season, people are trying to make their rain teams look less like rain teams by putting mons who randomly know rain dance instead of using pelipper/politoed
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>see team from a cybertron video
>open video and see all moves items spreads and common leads
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>>59502030
Is it a Froslass Kingambit team? I feel like I fought 20 of these.
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>>59502032
the one with dragonite ye
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>>59501953
this.
I thought it was some strange staraptor amalgamation with non-mega Pert, but it was rain dance scizor which really confused me
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>solidly outplay a person
>but then a very last hit that didn't really matter crit so now they'll think "LUCKY FUCKER YOU DIDN'T ACTUALLY WIN"
Kinda hate this feeling.
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>>59502050
Had a couple of hax turns go against my previous opponent that probably didn't really matter and they were a good sport and didn't do the time bs, when im on the receiving end such as that rock slide flinch on a ninetales that was going to annihilate garchomp I get tempted to be a salty idiot and time them out but I just recollect myself and onto the next game, I only timeout vs overqwil bs and might start doing it against basculegion players who only win cause they have a bs pokemon
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>>59502050
>I think i played pretty well
>even playing through opponent double freezing me losing me one mon and two turns
>okay i just need to land this one hit on this guy and then all is good
>he freezes me again
>I won just because i defrost in one turn
im sure he is seething that i won because of luck, but its hard to say gg when i just rolled a 1/5 chance
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Instead of nerfing LR, just remove it from basculegions learnset like they did with Knock Off on incin and Thunder Wave on Grimmsnarl
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>>59502106
Arch body slam...
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>>59502109
I assume you mean press, glad we don't have to play against that, pretty much every mon feels reasonable except basculegion in this format
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>>59502116
>pretty much every mon feels reasonable except basculegion in this format
pretty much. he is just overtuned for what he does. I wouldnt mind if he is as frail as beedrill for example, but 120(!)/65/75 is nothing to scoff at
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>>59502030
he meant it when he said he was going all in on the content farming. he's also the one writing the guides they post on official media, he's required viewing right now
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>>59502116
whim and the cup are not reasonable.
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>>59502050
>outplay opponent
>he stalls a win,
kill all stallfags
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erm wtf mega pinsir my beloved when did they take away return
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>>59502192
Not only that Pinsbro, he lost Take Down as well. It’s a disaster
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I’ve had this idea for a while that’s probably retarded, tell me how stupid this sounds:
>send out Azumarill and Scarf Typhlosion
>click Belly Drum and Eruption
>opp is forced to let one of them do their thing while they stop the other
>send in Screensnarl or Rage Powder Scovillian to back up whoever survives and try to sweep

Tell me why this is dumb cuz I keep coming back to it thinking it’s worth a shot. You could even have Mega Staraptor and maybe Swords Dance Scizor as alternatives to try for the sweep when the gimmickier ones don’t look like they’re gonna pull it off
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What are some of your most satisfying move pics in very particular situations?
So earlier tonight I had set up my Huge Power Runerigus and had just spammed double Rock Slide alongside my Iron Ball Excadrill and took out one lead while leaving the other on slim health. The replacement that came in was Rotom-Heat. Now I could have clicked Rock Slide again, but I saw my moment and went for it: Skill Swap on the Levitate right into an Earthquake from Excadrill.
Man that just felt soo fuckin' good fellas
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>>59502320
wide guard, encore, taunt, and fake out are all extremely common and a combination of them immediately shuts you down



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