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>Pokémon Bank will stop working and being able to connect to Pokémon HOME on February 26th 2027. Pokémon will not be able to stored any longer in it and it cannot connect to Pokémon HOME after that day
we riot
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>>59503025
Yet another case of performative outrage that will tide over once they reveal new information for the new generation
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>>59503025
Lasted more than I expected desu.
Still sucks.
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RIP shiny Silvally and Poiple
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it kills the official way of transferring from ds to 3ds too but pkhex works for that
3ds to switch is kill since home gives a server side home id number
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>>59503035
Already got those, gotta continue my heatran resets and transfer it and xernear i already got shiny too then it's rip
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Good. The less recommended videos I get from pokezoomers talking about how great the 3DS is for pokemon the better.
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>>59503025
>It's "Gen 2 to Gen 3" all over again
What the fuck were they thinking?
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>>59503047
Sell home subscriptions
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>>59503025
This kills the ribbon master challenge.
It was fun seeing how far I could push a shitmon from Orre into getting as many ribbons as it could, now the farthest it can go legitimately is Gen 5. (Gen 7 with a hacked 3DS)
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>Pokémon FireRed Version and Pokémon LeafGreen Version for Nintendo Switch are set to link with Pokémon HOME beginning October 2026'
RSE soon, I wonder what they will do with the DS games, would they convert it to single screen?
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>>59503056
The second screen was never particularly useful.
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Pokémon HOME storage for Premium subscribers is to increase from 6,000 to 9,000 alongside the update in October 2026
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>no source
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Players who complete the Pokédex from Pokémon FireRed & Pokémon LeafGreen into Pokémon HOME will get a gift of a Celebi
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>>59503056
Either they'll do something similar to what the Mega Man Star Force Legacy Collection does, or they'll do what BDSP does and just have it clunkily implemented.
Or they can take a third option and make them handheld exclusive so the touch screen can be used
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>>59503062
Me when I can’t do basic research
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>>59503062
https://www.pokemon.co.jp/info/2022/02/220216_gm01.html
here are the moon runes
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>>59503064
Just a normal Celebi? You need to buy both games too, what a SCAM!
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>>59503070
If its like anything else then you can do it by trading.
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>>59503070
not even an unreleased shiny Jesus Christ
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>>59503062
Damn, that sucks, but I'm sure the mega-autists in this fanbase will find a way around it.
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I have a shitton of games to turboautism in the upcoming months, it seems.
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>>59503077
Meant for >>59503067
>>59503068
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>>59503025
As usual, Nintendo deserves to be shit on and boycotted every bit as hard as Sony is right now, but they'll get another free pass. There is no valid reason to shut this service down. There's no way it costs this much and they took people's money under the false pretense that it was a futureproofed system that would always let them transfer their Pokemon.
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>>59503070
Even if you buy both games you can't complete the pokedex, you're gonna miss all the rest of jothomons from RSE/Gale of darkness and one Legendary dog
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Does it really cost them THAT must to keep this service up and running
Like bro it's fucking pokemon
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>>59503025
Guys what do I do? Do I leave Battle Bond Greninja or bring him here into the future where he loses his form
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>>59503025
Post the source, stupid shit
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>>59503077
can already pkhex them to a switch game but Game freak would be able to detect it if put into home since it wouldn't have a valid id
https://projectpokemon.org/home/forums/topic/56296-read-home-tracker-value/

What you could do is inject your save file into FRLG on the switch from a OG cart and that would work, they need to start releasing the rest of the classic games
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>>59503095
Move it over to a 3ds game
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>>59503099
no
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>>59503095
you can farm 2 and move one.
>>59503080
Home should've been a bank port
>>59503064
Are FRLG transfers both ways?
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>>59503101
He's already in Ultra Sun, but when he's moved into a current game, he loses the form and the ability changes
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Knew this would eventually come once Dexit happened
I will finally be severed from the dogshit 3D games forever and feel free to ignore them
>>59503088
Anon the megacorps that print money are where the biggest hebrews lurk
Look at the state of the franchise in general, does this look healthy to you?
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>>59503105
Then he will be stuck there until it gets the ability back
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>>59503102
I found it, get fucked
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>>59503025
>"Ishihara: Actually, I recently had the chance to speak with Shoko Nakagawa. As everyone knows, she really loves Pokémon. I read her book and was amazed by just how enthusiastic she is about Pokémon. At the end of our interview, she told me that she wished we would make something like Pokémon Bank. She wanted a way for the Pokémon she had trained to be safely preserved so that one day she could pass them down to her children and grandchildren."

>"Iwata: Her children and grandchildren?"

>"Ishihara: Yes. She wanted something like Pokémon Bank so that her children and grandchildren could remember that their grandmother used to battle with Charizard. At the time, I wasn't able to tell her anything about it. But now it's official: we are making Pokémon Bank."

>"[Mr. Masuda, did you agree with the idea of making this kind of service a reality?]"

>"Masuda: Well, I had also been thinking about the concept behind Pokémon Bank for quite a long time. So, of course, I agreed."
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>>59503115
do u rike it
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>>59503115
ch-ch-CHARIZARD????
FROM KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO???????
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>>59503025
I prepared all my boxes for easy transfer when they first announced Home in case they shut down Bank, but I have so much shit I'd have to pay for the subscription. Need to cull more boxes
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>>59503115
yeah, came here to mention this, thanks lmao
fuckin' hell I remember them hyping it up as a forever service
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>>59503051
>a home sub feature was transferring the 3DS games
Not to mention now a shit ton of achievements on home mobile are just straight up impossible now
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I will be a bitch and finally buy a Home sub for a year and Shield so I can store my shit. Are the Alolan Ratatta family the only things stuck in Home itself with Shield, Violet, and both Legends games?
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Just gonna keep my guys in Ultra Moon.
If I can't have them all in one game that I own what's the point of moving them up?
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>>59503123
Erm it's actually "CHARIZAAAARD FROM KAAAANTOOOO (FireRed and Leafgreen version)" now. What's a Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow anyway?
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>>59503133
So you can use them in future games.
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>>59503131
Spinda too.
Though there might be some gen 1-3 mons that are bdsp exclusive
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>>59503100
I think the Pokemon that were in base SwSh can technically get around it because they didn't add the tracker till later iirc.
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Does anyone even use pokémon bank these days?
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>>59503139
the tracker isn't generated in game, pokemon are only given one once put in home
so a offline ZA mon wouldn't have it
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>>59503131
At least skitty, Ledyba Taillow, Castform can only be in bdsp, maybe others too.
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>>59503138
As long as it's only a handful so I can ride the free sub for them once the initial transfer fee is up.
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>>59503144
Ribbon master autists <-me
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>>59503144
The bulk of my collection was transfered when home compatibility launched(lost the rest when my 3ds broke prior to SWSH updates) but I use it from time to time to move pokemon up whenever I replay a DS game.
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>>59503147
I know. I mean you can use pkhex to move a Pikachu from Diamond to Sword and the game wouldn't flag it if you then moved it into Home because Home didn't put a tracker on mons when it first launched.
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>>59503135
You can get most of them from newer games, do you really care which version of your favourite it is?
>i NEED my blastoise from gen 1 specifically
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>>59503158
Well yeah if you don't care you can throw your DS away. It's an option.
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>>59503159
Even then I could emulate DS games for the game itself
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>>59503160
Good for you.
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>>59503156
that wouldn't work without turning it into a sword pikachu, all it's data would read as a diamond pikachu when put into home without going through bank to home
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>>59503088
That has absolutely nothing to do with it. If they break the chain then they force people to buy rereleases.
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>>59503100
You can not do that via Hex any more or have been for years, the second you hit save you get hit with that 100010 or whatever error that says no proof of transfer.
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>>59503166
So gen 5, 6 and 7 remakes or releases soon?
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>>59503158
>He didn't bring his bro over the generations
Ngmi
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>>59503169
Anything like this is going to be slow rolled. FR and LG are just roms, nothing has stopped them from adding RSE, they just want to space it out because they make more money that way.
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>>59503025
barely been 2 years since the ds said they were stopping what happened?
i thought i read numerous times on here that it was gonna live for ages maybe even merricku himself said it
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>>59503165
It keeps it as a Diamond Pikachu.
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There's no benefit to this if they don't permanently mark old Pokemon and always online games from here on out. Cull hacked and RNGed Pokemon.
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Ok everything is fine there’s enough months left for me to do this just have to make a bucket list
>complete my origin living dex by playing black, ultra moon, pearl and gale of darkness one more time
>transfer my best buddies from my old games like my first infernape, my shiny roserade and anyone else that’s even remotely important to me
>i already have a ribbon master eevee but i wanna get a pikachu and give it the champion ribbon of every region possible
>check home challenges for anything that requires a pokemon from an older game
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>>59503025
Kills transferring hacked mons from DS/3DS era to Switch

I do hope they rerelease Crystal for the shitch 2 so I can keep that in case I want shitmons from Johto (or better, port HGSS somehow)
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>>59503025
Welp lmfao
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>>59503179
and game freak could nuke it when it hits home
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Do we have to wait for gen567 remakes or how are they gonna port the games to switch?
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Everybody is going to panic buy DS, and 3ds to backup their savefiles and emulate from now on. If you don't go and buy a fat/lite or have the hardware and software on a 3ds to backup your files, you are fucked. They want to force everybody to buy the new games to keep their pokemon alive and well.
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>>59503182
>Cull hacked and RNGed Pokemon
ok no transferring anything to wind/wave
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>>59503194
You had many years to do this already.
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>>59503190
As far as they're concerned I moved the Pikachu over before the tracker got added.
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Keeping my collection in Ultra Moon
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>>59503194
I have save backups on pc/cloud storage of all my saves going back to gen 5
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>>59503201
Most normgroids and "fuck piracy/pirates" didn't, and now they likely will. So, get ready fo everything to go to hell and scalpers to ruin everything even further.
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>>59503194
I've had a cheap 2DS XL since 2020

Might have to get another one in the future just in case
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>>59503210
Normgroids love pirating pokemon. Playing roms on phones, hacked 3DS. That's normalfag stuff now.
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>>59503216
WIf that's true or not, dsfat and lite will still likely go extinct after this anyway.
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>>59503204
what's your source home tracker wasn't at launch of home
https://projectpokemon.org/home/forums/topic/56296-read-home-tracker-value/
this post suggests it was always there they just didn't enforce it till 2023
>With the release of HOME v3.1.0, Pokémon that bears records of not being initialized correctly (technically invalid HOME tracker) can no longer be sent back into HOME, typically with HOME throwing an error 10015.
https://projectpokemon.org/home/docs/home_165/relevance-of-home-tracker-home-v200-v300-and-beyond-r154/
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this is basically the end of official pokemon
there are already alternative storage options for emulated pokemon and it'll end up being better than the real deal in the long run
pretty disappointing since they have billions of dollars and keeping up the servers costs basically nothing
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>tfw oldfag
>remember how long it finally took them to get it up and running in 2013
>remember how based Wonder Trading in XY was as soon as it was released

RIP
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>>59503226
For me, it was the time where Bank briefly released in Japan before they had to take it down for maintenence.
Managed to get a Piplup from Wonder Trade during that time.
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>>59503226
>2013
>oldfag
no es fake
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>>59503194
>>59503210
Sorry anon but if you didn't already have carts of everything and suddenly care now you're no better than the normalfags you're bitching about. A decade ago the GBA and DS games were dirt cheap.
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>>59503225
the suits think it costs them more to not cut the life line, so everybody who hates the new games hypothetically buys the new garbage.
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>>59503225
Cool, how do you move them to Wind and Waves?
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>>59503233
I have two r4s, a ds lite and fat. I am still buying another lite, because I don't wanna risk it. I am sure others think the same as me, so the hardware is gonna blow in price for sure.
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>>59503240
you wait until wind and waves are old enough to emulate
that's what i meant by in the long run
the more time passes the better the experience will be for emulation and worse on official roms
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>>59503025
welp now I am sad that I will never be able to make the full journey legitimately
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>>59503225
See:
>>59503166
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>>59503250
don't worry you can rebuy the games on the switch 2 over the next 5 years, isn't that great?
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>>59503166
stop harassing masuda
#thankyougamefreak
>>59503169
kek no, they never cared about that.
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>>59503025
>build multi-generational compatibility system spanning literal decades, unlike anything ever done before by any video game
>throw it in the garbage because one of the most successful video game franchises in the world can't spare the money to pay for a server that probably costs less bandwidth than a Minecraft server
>or even worse, throw it away intentionally to force people to buy remakes
Right after Champions gave me a reason to go back and play all my old games again, too.
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>>59503053
can't you move into the switch games hacked, obviously not legal online for most games due to missing HOME tracker but still
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>>59503088
The cost comes from maintaining an old server. They probably have some dusty server somewhere with old as fuck software. They probably made the cost analysis and realized they could save 5 million bucks that could be used for bonuses.
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>>59503064
>FRLG transfers work like Virtual Console RBY/GSC, one-way and done by entire box
>making Celebi (and presumably Jirachi) a Home gift makes them entirely unobtainable in Gen 3
Damn, this is even dumber than I imagined. Thought the worst case would be to make them spontaneously appear in your PC upon Dex completion.
It looks like ribbon hunting is fucked, too. There's no way they'll actually fix Pal Park for the Gen 4 re-release.
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I can do this, this is the most recent update i had of the Pokemon missing on my origin living dex, it’s already outdated because im sure i got all the furfrou forms the moment legends za got home compatibility, and i only have to worry about gens 4-7 i can do this in a month
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>>59503261
There's 0 reason for it to not to be the same service as home.
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>>59503261
You are fucking retarded
There is only two key things to keeping up a server. the hardware which by being old, can run in new hardware just fine, just keep an old windows OA installed. And you need (1) one retard always checking that the thing works fine. That's literally cheap as fuck.
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give home support to the VC genius sonority games and do proper gen 4 and 5 ports or no deal
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>HOME storage will expand from 6000 to 9000
>FRLG connectivity pretty much confirms we'll be able to move these mons between gen 3 games and trade them thru HOME GTS as long as these mons aren't moved to the switch games
>they're going to shut down Bank forever
There's literally NO reason to kill Bank just yet.
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>>59503257
I wouldn't actually mind if that was an option (would definitely be far far cheaper than buying the hyper inflated prices on the used market for required games/systems/accessories) but gamecube classics doesn't support connection with the GBA rereleases which fucking sucks and HOME transfer is one way too
the long haul dream is dead
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Clown Franchise
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How much effort am I looking at with moving my pokemon from emerald ALL THE WAY to the pokemon bank let alone to the fucking switch home or whatever?

Be advised, I never gave a shit about my emerald cartridge for over 20 years. I actually stopped giving a shit about pokemon all together because of emerald's stupid unfair battle frontier. Never played pokemon after that. My old sceptile and the rest of my team is there last time I checked last month or so.


Only until like this year did I think about buying platnium and an old DS w/ GBA slot.


Then I saw this shitty news 30 minutes ago this morning. Thankfully I didn't waste my money on yet, so there's that I guess.

Should I just say "fuck it"?

Even though I'm sad and don't care, it still sucks for the millions of people that have a shit ton of pokemon in the bank system.


With the exception of last June, this summer fucking sucks.
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>>59503267
They will never get Home because they have save states
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>>59503273
There was no reason to ever kill it nor to make home a thing.
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Game Freak could release a DS carriage that has a bluetooth inside it that has a program that transfers Pokemon from DS/3DS to the switch/home if they really wanted but they are fucking gay
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>>59503279
Emerald to DPPT requires beating the game.
DPPT to BW/2 requires beating the game
Everything else there requires Transporter/Home (just hack your 3ds to get it if you don't have it)
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>>59503279
>How much effort am I looking at with moving my pokemon from emerald ALL THE WAY to the pokemon bank let alone to the fucking switch home or whatever?
If you want to do it legit it's a tedious pain in the ass that requires a 4th and 5th gen game and a 3DS that already had Bank installed before the eshop shut down.
If you just want to get it done and don't care about it being "legit"
>get a DS flashcart with GBA Backup Tool
>dump Emerald save
>get a 3DS and hack it
>install any 3DS Pokemon game and dump the save
>use pkhex to drag everything from Emerald into a 3DS game
>restore save
>install Bank
>move everything from the 3DS game to Bank and then to Home
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>>59503279
dump your gba games with a ds lite and an r4
dump your ds games with a hacked 3ds
use pkhex to grab all your boxes and paste them into a gen 6 or 7 game
transfer to bank, then to home
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>hacking
ngmi
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>>59503025
>gameboy to 3ds after market will finally tank
hilarious
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>>59503133
just clone them. that's what I did
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>>59503279
>Never played pokemon after that
You're in for a long ride.
You'll need that Platinum and DS. You'll need to see all 210 pokemon in the Sinnoh dex to get the national dex for the Pal Park, so you can transfer from Gen 3 to Gen 4.
You'll need a second DS (3DS can work for this, which you'll need anyway, so might as well make the second one a 3DS) to put a Gen 5 game in so you can transfer from Gen 4 to Gen 5 with the Poke Shifter. You'll need to beat the game's storyline to get the national dex and access the Poke Shifter/
That 3DS will need to be homebrewed so you can get Poke Transporter and Pokemon Bank.
Then use Poke Transporter to move the pokemon from Gen 5 to Pokemon Bank.
However, since transfers from Gen 5 end up in Pokemon Bank's Transfer Box, you'll need a Gen 6 game so you can transfer them out of the transfer box into the Gen 6 game and then right back into one of Bank's regular boxes. You don't need any particular amount of progress in the Gen 6 game for this.

Then, finally, you can transfer them from Pokemon Bank to Home.
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>>59503231
2013 was 13 years ago, anon.
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>>59503273
>FRLG connectivity pretty much confirms we'll be able to move these mons between gen 3 games and trade them thru HOME GTS as long as these mons aren't moved to the switch games
Damn, that's true? That would be good
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>>59503309
it can't be
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>>59503279
>nintendo DS (not i, has to have GBA slot)
>nintendo 3DS with pokemon bank and transporter installed
>nintendo switch
>copy of a gen 4 game that has beaten the league
>copy of a gen 5 game that has beaten the league
>use DS to do pal park catching mini game (not that bad) to move them into gen 4
>use DS and 3DS to do download play touch screen minigame (annoying) to move them into gen 5
>use pokemon transporter to move them into bank
>use 3DS bank and switch HOME to transfer
probably just say fuck it, they're better off staying in emerald unless you really want to interact with them in the subsequent games and use them in champions with a unique title
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>People throw a riot over this
>Not them cutting the playable Pokémon in the latest games
>Not the drop down in quality assurance
>Not base game content gatekept behind a DLC paywall
>Not Loot boxes in GO
>Not Masters (Being the toddler gacha)
>Not the blatant monopoly attempts through shitty patents (But even cheered for it in the beginning)
>But this
Honestly people who are still invested into their games deserve it all that comes with it. Acting like insufferable douchebags but immediately folding flailing like a moron when the safety net is gone. The humbling is overdue and even if doesn't come with this, the day it comes will be a beat down of ego.
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>>59503315
No one is "rioting" over this anon.
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>>59503025
This is why I was against the entire idea of PokeTransporter/Bank when Gen 6 came out.

That said at this point I don't really care, I don't play the Switch games so hacked 3DS can handle Gen 5 transfers to 6/7.
And its not like I transfer mons up anyway - I prefer to leave Pokemon on their origin game than constantly try to bring my favorites up a game, and the newest gens wipe out your movesets when you transfer IIRC so seems pretty pointless now.
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FRLG is getting an origin symbol in Home, as well.
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>>59503315
cool fanfic
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>>59503315
Have you been in a coma for the past 8 years?
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>>59503194
every game but crapions and soon farts/sharts is emulatable
at this point it should be the sign to exit the subscription hellscape they're only going to make worse. the only losers that should be paying are VGC comp slaves and the obsessed
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>>59503315
>People throw a riot over this
Is this riot here with us?

>Not them cutting the playable Pokémon in the latest games
>Not the drop down in quality assurance
>Not base game content gatekept behind a DLC paywall
>Not the blatant monopoly attempts through shitty patents (But even cheered for it in the beginning)
All of these have been criticized.

>Not Loot boxes in GO
If you paid any money to play go you have bigger issues.

>>59503318
>This is why I was against the entire idea of PokeTransporter/Bank when Gen 6 came out.
An online service is the only way to make sure you don't have to constantly circumvent hardware limitations.
You have to, of course, actually utilize the advantage but that doesn't mean the advantage wasn't there.
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>>59503025
Man, I've been putting off on getting ribbons for all my shinies still on the Gen VI and VII games. Guess I'll need to get to it ASAP and transfer them over to Home. Anyone have images with recommended teams to cheese the battle facilities easily? Those are the biggest barrier.
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>>59503328
truant durant is your friend
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going back in time and telling nintendo that they should in fact include that 3DS slot on the switch they were initially considering
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Pokémon!
Gotta catch most of them!
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>>59503319
>not shiny
What a bunch of stingy faggots, the other Home pokedex mythical rewards were shiny but they just stopped that here?
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>>59503327
what hardware limitations?
The 3DS had internal storage, at that point there was no need to force the transfer to require an online cloud app.

As for 3DS on to whatever was next, they still should have been able to figure some solution in a world of title updates.
There are no direct Switch-3DS games that communicate, but there was Wii U-3DS game communication that existed, so the possibility was there.
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>>59503311
>you can always trade using Pokemon HOME's GTS to help fill out your pokedex too
It looks like it. There's a reason why they're going with a non-shiny celebi instead of a usual shiny like every other switch game because it's unobtainable in gen 3. RSE rereleases (if the rumor is true) will give out Jirachi
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I don't really play Pokemon. Why don't people move to PC and keep an emulated bank or something?
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>>59503319
Confirms that FRLG and eventual RSE ports can't be used as a substitute for true Gen 3 transfers since they'll have a mark where ones from the actual GBA games don't. Even then, it was unlikely since real transfers would have the met location as Poke Transfer.
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>>59503343
>what hardware limitations?
The 3ds didn't seem like it would be the final videogame console ever made.

>As for 3DS on to whatever was next, they still should have been able to figure some solution in a world of title updates.
Yeah, an online service that both places access.
>there was Wii U-3DS game communication that existed
Google up what they did.
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>>59503328
Really depends how content you are to play a really boring battle facility and how good or bad your shinies are. Something like Starmie will be a lot more useful in gen 3/4/6 battle facilities and allow you to play a solid team with Starmie, Garchomp, Scizor and do well while having fun, but absolute shitmons are gonna end up forcing you to do something like Truant Durant + Accupressure Drapion in gen 6 and twave memento @ Sash Azelf in gen 4. Gen 7 is easy to cheese with stuff like beat up Whimsicott and Terrakion spamming rock slide.
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>>59503347
I like marks better than unmarked anyway.
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>>59503346
switch 2 isn't hacked
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>>59503346
If you emulate this is a non-issue
>>59503347
You didn't actually need this "confirmation" did you?
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>>59503047
selling you $30 ROMs/$80 remakes of games you already own
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>2028
>forced to use hacked methods to move up mons from a physical gameboy cartridge
>name a mon after a meme that only existed in 2028
>some sperg has a crash out after losing online to my gameboy bred mememon
>get reported
>banned
>money stolen
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>>59503279
My dumbass forgot to mention that I have a 3DS with bank and transporter and even sun and moon.

I panicked bought them when the stores shut down like 3 years ago because I'm a tendie fool.

>>59503293
thx, I'll look into it. The elite 4s shouldn't be hard to beat no? They're kids games ffs.

>>59503299
I already have 3DS w/ bank and transporter installed. Do I need a windows computer for any "programs"?

>>59503300
Never heard of pkhex, thx though.

>>59503306
Fuck me, that sound brutal. I already have 3DS w/ Bank and Transporter and Sun. But that's still a slog.
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>>59503356
Not really, it was just a neat little note. It doesn't matter for my purposes anyways because of the whole met location thing as was mentioned.
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>>59503314
Fucking yikes. Wasn't there a horrible transfer glitch on the Switch pokemon home where millions of users lost like 20 years worth of their pokemon data? Sucks to be them. Thx anyway.
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>>59503047
they're thinking
>we don't want to pay for this forever and at certain point it just becomes a security risk for us to keep these servers up
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>>59503362
>thx, I'll look into it. The elite 4s shouldn't be hard to beat no? They're kids games ffs.
No, they're all easy but the games can be time consuming to beat if you're on a deadline. Especially gen 4.
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>in gen 9 they introduced titles for your pokemon if you have a specific ribbon
>they just killed the connection to the DS/3DS era
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>>59503369
That was in gen 8
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>>59503364
no? you're probably thinking about people fucking up their switch 1 to switch 2 system transfer and losing their pokemon saves which contained their mons, even then that was only a handful of idiots and HOME was unaffected because of server side storage
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>>59503366
>we don't want to pay this so retards buy the new games.
Good try shill, but nobody cares about le ebin security issues. I can see through your stupid lies.
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>>59503368
If you can't beat them all prior to february you have bigger issues.
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Well I hated everything after gen 4 anyway so i no longer feel the need to migrate everything over. I'd much prefer to keep my old mons locked away on their old carts until they eventually die due to pcb rot. And after they're long gone i'll continue to emulate to chase that nostalgia high once a year as i've been doing since the release of gen 8.
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>>59503378
people have been buying the new games regardless
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>>59503369
they just released the definitive VGC game where you can finally use ALL your bros, and then they immediately cut off all gens below 8
you don't hate nintendo enough
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>>59503056
Vertical Switch/Switch 2 could feasibly emulate the dual screens of a DS along with some adapter to connect the joycons in that orientation or some picture in picture style setup for TV mode
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>>59503381
My percpetion is pretty skewed since I was doing ribbon master and the towers take a while, but while you're right you have a lot of time, getting everything ready to go and then beating the game is going to run you longer than you'd assume because you have other things you spend time on irl.
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>>59503345
>because it's unobtainable in gen 3
Isn't that all the more reason to make it shiny?
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Pokemon transfers are like a millstone around the game's neck
Pkhex or whatever is just genning. Just because you copied the values of your old pokemon doesn't make it any different.
Why the fuck didn't they make home use the same storage databases that bank used? This feels like a super obvious thing unless they really fucked up when making bank
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>>59503375
That's what I meant.

How did they fuck up their transfers? Is it possible to back up Switch 1 before transfer? I don't a Switch 2 yet.
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>>59503389
>where you can finally use ALL your bros
not yet, probably not for several years, maybe ever, I don't see them rolling out little cup formats often enough to fill out the complete dex before a new gen comes out and replenishes the unavailable mon count
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>>59503399
I'm gonna keep using using third party devices to backup my pokemon and call them legit so suck shit cunt
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>>59503406
your mons are hacked and ugly and they smell
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>>59503399
Get fucked, shill.
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>>59503386
Why did pokemon suck after gen 4 to you?
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>>59503408
you will never be a woman
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>>59503411
correct i'm a LADY!
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>>59503399
>Why the fuck didn't they make home use the same storage databases that bank used? This feels like a super obvious thing unless they really fucked up when making bank
It and the dexcut are because home was part of a set of apps to increase profits. Home was announced at the same conference as sleep and masters, and the dexcut a few months later.
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>>59503245
Does emulation have online multiplayer?
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So this will be the final cutoff point for...
>Virtual Console Gen 1-2
>Every Shadow Pokemon in Gen 3, since XD is not Home compatible
>Gen 4-7 native Pokemon and ribbons, until these games are rereleased
RSE will probably be rereleased soon enough, but I don't anticipate them releasing Gen 4 after BDSP and Arceus.
Gen 5 is done, and there are no ribbons in that game either if I'm not mistaken.
XY and SM have some exclusive marks and ribbons to Kalos and Alola.
Time to catch 'em all...For good...

>>59503115
Shoko is our queen.
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KWAB
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This sucks but was inevitable. It'll have been a 4 year grace period they have given us of it being free with a "get things out while you can".

Unfortunately these servers can't stay up forever.

Hopefully the rumors about emerald rereleases are true and we get the ds games too, so we can buy them and get our pokemon back all in one console.

>NOOOO KEEP BANK ALIVE FOREVER!!!!!!
They can't and if you genuinely think they could you're a reatrd. Be thankful we got 6 month to prepare
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>>59503406
You do you man, idgaf. If they don't want people to gen pokemon they should stop using outdated tedious mechanics.
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>>59503426
Only if you aren't retarded and know how to use private servers, and can set up the WEP connection. if you don't know how to setup a WEp connection, you are fucked. This includes "what's a WEP connection", btw.
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>>59503426
No.
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>>59503432
>They can't
Anon, Home will still be a thing after and Home should've been bank all along.
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>>59503314
>>59503362
You don't need a Switch, by the way. You can move from Bank to Home in the Home mobile app.
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>>59503419
Bank had a subscription cost they could've increased? Or they could've rebranded.
Or if they were really greedy they could use the same DB and charge for both bank and home.
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>>59503427
Gen 7 has a number of exclusives. Barring Go shines, there's a few mythicals you can't get shiny in newer games either, at least for the time being.
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>>59503440
I am not paying for prison.
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>>59503441
That's them being greedy and rebranding.
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>>59503432
You can't reason with these people.
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I have PKSM in the 3DS and haven't played past Shield once, is that anything
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>>59503398
True but Celebi in gen 3 is impossible to get without cheating so it's fine
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>>59503448
They're set on hating on game freak because they have no lives sadly.
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>>59503401
>Is it possible to back up Switch 1 before transfer?
no, you can back up save game data to the cloud with NSO but pokemon is exempt (along with some other games, devs can opt out) to prevent cloning
what I did is just didn't do a system transfer and instead just manually transferred my pokemon violet save between systems after initialization, I don't know how they fucked it up exactly but it's pretty stark about how it's a point of no return and it will delete everything off the original switch if you choose that option so I just side stepped it entirely out of an abundance of caution
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>>59503409
What the fuck am I shilling?
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>>59503432
>multibillion company can't afford the salary of one man and the eletricity of one computer or a few computers
Shill or retard alert
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>>59503414
ok based
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>>59503401
It's not possible to fuck up, Switch 2 literally asks you do you want to transfer your profiles and you just press yes.
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the plan B is to sell you individual Pokemon directly
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>>59503460
They already do that in Go
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>>59503454
Moving to home, otherwise my pokemon aren't "legit". Get fucked.
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>>59503025
i voted for this.
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Good thing I already pulled my full form and shiny dex from the old games years ago.
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>>59503447
It cost work hours (aka money) to develop a Bank to Home transfer function
It cost money to keep both the Bank and Home databases active at the same time
Home could've used the same database as Bank, and it would've been cheaper unless they really fucked up Bank
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>>59503457
Not how it works retard, how old do you think the hardware is? You can"t possibly keep a service up forever, the fact they kept it on after the 3ss eshop died is a miracle and already worthy of praise. But you people never sya thank you or are grateful, no, it's always more and more and "lazy" and "greedy". Fuck off
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Finding out you can't even download bank anymore since the ds servers are gone make this all funnier because it means any weird outrage has to be met with the fact you can't even get the thing you're mad about going away.

It does make me curious how many people can even use the service at this moment, feels like 3 digits tops.
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>>59503467
didn't read
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>>59503025
>have to get 3 tree master ribbons on shit mons and a shiny celebi in half a year
Fuck fuck fuck fuck
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>>59503466
>It cost work hours (aka money) to develop a Bank to Home transfer function
There should've been no bank to home transfer function.
>It cost money to keep both the Bank and Home databases active at the same time
There shouldn't be two databases
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Shills and idiots going full damage control
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>>59503364
>Wasn't there a horrible transfer glitch on the Switch pokemon home where millions of users lost like 20 years worth of their pokemon data?
I heard that redditfag deleted the post because people found out he was making shit up
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>>59503470
any 3ds can be hacked and have bank freshly installed on it
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>>59503470
You can't officially get it, but it's still available by other means.
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>>59503473
Easy. The tree is the easiest of the facilities
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>>59503463
Thats literally true. I also don't care if you gen, go wild, just don't lie to yourself.
I also think transfers are bad for the series.
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>>59503470
>feels like 3 digits tops.
more like 4 digits, there are definitely hundreds of autists in the english ribbon hunting communities using it, add the japanese and other languages and it definitely crosses the 1000 threshold
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>>59503476
>things should suck because they just should
kys
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>>59503481
that's not legit, according to the pathetic shill which has been posted. So you can't do it because he says so, and he is the authority here.
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>>59503486
Hi Joe
>>59503489
Why do you quote yourself?
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Trying to figure out what mytical Pokemon I'm going to be missing and needing to figure out for a proper legit (as possible, DNS exploit and event activation stuff counts, just no genning) origin dex. So far
>gen 1: only legit mew is through emerald, so no kanto mew from gba unless theres some sort of exploit im forgetting
gen 2: have the special hgss celebi in my black so we good
gen 3: deoxys/latis can get their events activated im sure, jirachi i can bonus disc transfer
gen 4: shaymin/darkrai can dns exploit their events, i have a platinum arceus. need to find a ranger game for manaphy
>gen 5: have victini and genesect, gotta dns exploit for keldeo and meloetta prob
gen 6: got hoopa, volcanion is oras so might be fucked. no diancie either
gen 7: magearna is permanent so easy, might have people for zeraora/marshadow
Any I'm forgetting? Or any ideas how to solve the Mew issue? I think that's the biggest one besides the Gen 6 mythicals.
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>>59503491
You sound REALLY upset.
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>>59503369
>the Treasured Memory
>the Tried and True
>the Champion (gen 3 exclusive, even ORAS only has "the Hoenn Champion"
>the Veteran
>the Master
>the Living Legend
Those are some cool fucking titles, and they'll all be completely unobtainable.
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>>59503491
it must be Verlisify
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>>59503486
I don't care what you think.
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>>59503476
Thats what I'm saying, its always been dumb.
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>>59503451
Not for Japan.
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>>59503497
>le mad
Thanks for admitting you are baiting.
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>>59503498
Hoenn is getting rereleased you'll get them back
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>>59503491
I don't think literally anyone gives a shit about whether your bank came from the original eshop or some modified alternative that gives you the exact app from the exact same nintendo servers
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>>59503483
>The tree is the easiest of the facilities
Me when I lie, random NPCs have z moves and megas after a certain point. Easiest is Maison by far, not even the Chatelaines have megas even in ORAS. I've tried several high level strats at super singles and doubles and gotten fucked over in the 40s multiple times
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>>59503494
Joe mama
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Transfers became meaningless as soon as they started resetting movepools.
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>>59503470
Bank wasn't some obscure app, dude. The 3DS sold like 60 million units and each mainline game on it sold at least 15 million copies each, so safe assumption that a fuck ton of 3DS users already had Bank installed. Even if you didn't you can pirate it via homebrew, which is piss easy on 3DS.
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>>59503496
It might not be what you're looking for, but you can get a Mew through the Mew Glitch, then use ACE to make it like the GF Mew, that way you can get a Mew with a Game Boy Origin Mark.
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>>59503514
Muh ribbons thobeit
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GS Ball Celebi from Crystal is about to be rarest Pokemon all over again.
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>>59503514
They're selling nostalgia to autists. Its free money.
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>>59503514
not one soul cares about movesets
it's about the shinnies
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>>59503520
this but unironically, there's so many specific ones exclusive to certain games
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>>59503514
It is autism, really. In our autistic headcanons that data has been with us for years. We love it. But in reality, that data is overwitten all the time, even if you transfer "legit", your original data is lost or changed.
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>>59503525
I care about movesets. There were a lot of event-exclusive or old TM/Tutor moves that got removed for absolutely no reason.
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>>59503259
What about Champions makes you replay the old Pokémon games?
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Anons i need a switch 2 for gen 10 and now im starting to think it might be a good time to sell my complete in box copy of pokemon emerald, it’s main value to me was transferring stuff, like pokemon with ribbons and i also transferred all hoenn pokemon for my living dex from it, but i still have ruby and saphire to do that too is just that emerald was the best thanks to the cloning glitch letting me back up stuff
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>>59503527
>this but unironically
I was serious fren, I want my ribbon master shiny celebi so bad now FUCK I might actually get a third 3DS
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just tried to log into my bank on old 3DS and suddenly they ask for NNID password (it was saved on the console). I went id[.]nintendo[.]net , cant log in there either, used reset password option, got temporary one on email, still cant log in neither on website nor on 3DS.
Anyone can confirm is it my account bugged or perhaps nintendo fucked their database and they conveniently turn off bank?
This shit worked fine like 2 or 3 months ago, I was able to log in to bank and transfer some BP to Asapphire, now I cant
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God damn, I knew I should have sold my soul silver while the price was ridiculous. Now, it is gonna collapse since it won't be able to trajnsfer to new gens anymore.
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Luckily, the only things I'm missing that I care about are those that are still shiny locked and unobtainable anyway. Sucks for the rest of you.
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So for the shills and Masuda cocksuckers, I have one question for you:
Why can’t bank’s codebase either be ported or rebuilt to be integrated directly into home for extended legacy support?
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>>59503546
haha I don't really know
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>>59503546
Don't know, I'm not a programmer. Don't really care, either. You should've realized that you're always, ALWAYS, going to be fucked by a bank in one form or another.
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>>59503494
>eceleb obsesser
Based
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>>59503546
They are shitposting, they don't know how software/servers/coding works for jack shit. They just want the easy replies. None of them replied to me except with stupid idiotic repleis from retards which know jack shit about programming.
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>>59503542
Literally doesn't matter
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>>59503533
pokemon from odl games get exclusive titles when they enter the battle (like for beating mount battle in Xd or beating red in hgss)
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>>59503535
>ribbon master
Looked up what this was and came across a Smogon wiki article about it, which contained this:

>Starting from Generation VI, your Pokémon does not need to participate in any of the battles in order to obtain the ribbons. They simply must be in the party when you challenge the Battle Maison in Kalos or Hoenn to obtain it!
What the fuck? Is this true?
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>>59503542
What anon said, this shit has never mattered to normalfags they just have a distorted idea of the game being valuable because influencers told them they are supposed to be rare despite having millions of copies in existence
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>>59503025
Cultists will defend it regardless.
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>>59503542
>Now, it is gonna collapse
dude if anything it's gonna spike during this period where everyone's trying to get their hands on a copy before it closes
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>>59503259
no seriously, it's so fucking gay that they're shutting it down and NOT immediately giving a way to get old titles back
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>>59503522
How do I get that?
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>>59503542
old games will never become cheap again.
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>>59503564
>defend
What if I just don't care enough to go on the attack?
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THIS CANT BE HAPPENING
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Don't be like game freak
Be like Dragonite
Save the little kids
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>>59503557
>What the fuck? Is this true?
Yes because starting with the Maison there's no more 7 battle streaks, you get to take a break after every battle. If you're going to try it starting from gen 3 or 4 I will warn you that the sinnoh tower is absolute CBT because you have to do it 7 times across different modes, one of which requires two systems and one requires teaming up with the godforsaken ai partners. If you're running shitmons as ribbon masters pray to God because you will need it
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>Slowly bought the franchise back when I wanted to complete my childhood dream of getting every diploma
>Expanded that to getting a full living dex through the generations and shiny ribbonmasters too
>This sort of petered out over the years
>The announcement of Bank shutting down made me panic and buy the rest of the franchise I was missing
>Worked through gens 1-4, then petered out again
>Now this
YEAH LIGHT THAT FIRE UNDER MY ASS
Really hoped for Pretendo/Poke Classic support for gens 6 and 7 before this but OH WELL, TIME TO BOOST
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>>59503517
Nah, was trying to find a way to get a FRLG/Kanto origin Mew without the origin mark. Don't think it's possible without genning, so might just need to settle for my HGSS Mew from Johto, or a LGPE one.
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has anybody compiled a list of old events worth transferring?
stuff like the demo disc zigzagoon
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>>59503538
quick update
luckily I have WiiU, same problem there, but for whatever reason reset password worked there and I was able to log in on 3DS. So time to prepare my mons for final journey
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Since Home support for FRLG was announced, do you think you can take a Pokemon from FR, put it in Home, and then transfer it to LG?
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>>59503588
Nope, they specifically stated its one way.
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>>59503546
for one thing nintendo's already removed the ability to push new updates to 3DS software
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>>59503588
No, it doesn't work like that. Home support for VC FRLG is one way, as announced.
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>>59503588
I think that's their plan, but GF is stupid, and you saw what happened with spinda in BDSP.
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>>59503445
If you don't already own a Switch, you'll be paying hundreds of dollars for prison.
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>>59503496
Another factor, Diancie and Volcanion can be from Kalos still thanks to ZA, but it won't have the XY origin mark which is the issue. So depends how autistic I want to be trying to find legit versions of those two or just say fuck it and just use the ZA ones.
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>>59503592
So they are killing the old games and in fact, forcing you to pay for prison or get fucked. I knew it.
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>>59503594
Nah I am staying in emulators. It is for the best. I don't like the switch nor any of the new games.
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>>59503025
bad news for the 3 people who still haven't moved all their shit after they had years of warnings
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Piracy and pkhex have never been more morally correct. Cannot wait until the Switch 2 is finally able to be hacked/emulated. Pokémon hasn't been fun in years, just RNG gambleslop and infantilizing the grown adult fanbase over and over and over.
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>>59503611
>pokemon is not fun at all ugh
>SWITCH 2 EMULATION WHEEEEN
kek sure anon
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>>59503347
>since they'll have a mark where ones from the actual GBA games don't
Do the pokemon IN the ports have origin marks, though? Or is that something Home gives them when they enter/are displayed in Home?

If you rip a pokemon out of a GBA FRLG save with Pkhex and put it in a Switch FRLG save, maybe it would also have the Switch port origin mark once transferred to Home.

Unless by "true" you meant "indistinguishable" rather than "functionally possible".
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>>59503599
>So they are killing the old games
you can still play them
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>>59503607
This is lame for people that care about playing the old games on console or ribbon mastering and stuff. This might spur me to learn rng manip/ace for frlg at least
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>>59503588
I really hope that the actual storage alone functions and if you move a Pokemon from FireRed/LeafGreen out of HOME to a different game like PLZA that this would make it impossible to move back.
Otherwise >>59503319 means fuck all if they're giving it the FireRed/LeafGreen origin mark.
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>>59503570
When they released Crystal on 3DS, they let you get the GS Ball as a Mystery Gift. Then you take it to Kurt for the event.
It's the only way to catch Celebi wild and shiny hunt.
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>>59503618
>he doesn't know
3ds carts and now Ds carts, have started to die out. Google it, if you don't believe it.
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>>59503611
>Pokémon hasn't been fun in years, just RNG gambleslop and infantilizing the grown adult fanbase over and over and over.
okay so why do you want to play them so bad through emulation/piracy, literally begging for switch 2 emu in the previous sentence
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>>59503614
It's almost as if there are other video games for the Switch 2 that aren't pokémon. Maybe you would know that if you weren't turbocucked lmfao.
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>>59503631
You are SO obsessed with Pokemon, it's not even funny.
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>>59503623
>I really hope [...] move a Pokemon from FireRed/LeafGreen out of HOME to a different game like PLZA that this would make it impossible to move back.
So no one actually reads the press release?
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>>59503626
mod 3DS,
backup roms and saves
???
PROFIT
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>>59503095
leave it. they've invested years into erasing ash greninja from continuity. it is never making it out of gen 7
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>>59503638
Problem of that, is emulators still suck for trading. So, while we wait for that to be fixed, we need a second ds to be able to trade reliably, anon.
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>PLEASE HACK THE SWITCH SO I CAN PLAY POKEMON AGAIN IM TOO POOR TO BUY IT
kek!
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>>59503647
What do you need a second DS for when you have a modded 3DS?
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>59503648 (You)
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>started learning japanese this year, still about n5 level
>wanted to basically erase my franchise history and start fresh like a baby with the japanese titles so i homebrewed the japanese vc gen 1 and 2 titles and the 3ds titles and even went and autistically bought GBA and DS flashcarts for all the others, with the intent of transfering all the mons up in hopes of making a japanese living dex
Well fuck me I guess I better completely learn japanese and fully replay all these games before then! Bastards
Annoying seeing all these faggots saying its performative outrage or "when was the last time you even used bank" when I am literally a direct recipient of this bullet
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>>59503347
What? why would you assume this? I bet they function the same for Home Challenges and the sort why wouldn't they?
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>>59503657
I hate the 3ds.
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>>59503631
>Maybe you would know that if you weren't turbocucked lmfao.
>posts game I've already beaten
go sit patiently in your cuck chair whilst you stay begging a switch 2 chad to hack their system so you can have a turn with it
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>>59503662
It is really lame that they're doing it and understand these things can't last forever but I hope they'll listen to fan outcry and push it back a little further
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>>59503665
>literal better DS and more
Weird but to each their own
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>>59503588
Not sure why people are responding with no when the celebi news literally confirms we can use GTS to complete the FRLG dex >>59503345

>inb4 "b-but one way transfer!"
Let's Go games were also "one way transfer" yet we are able to bring them back to the game.
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>>59503673
yeah I think it'll work like Let's Go thankfully
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>>59503673
People don't read the press release. They just come here and scream into the voice.
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>>59503666
nice to know satan gives his money to Nintendo like the paypiggy shillcuck he actually is
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>>59503671
ok tell me how do I backup my gba carts in a 3ds
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>>59503618
The only reason to play the games is to transfer pokemon
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>>59503662
Your obtuse way of replaying these old games is an outlier.
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>>59503666
things Satan really would say
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I feel like a sonyfaggot when dealing with gamefreak.
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>>59503637
I didn't see this but this actually means that online trading will be a thing!
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>>59503025
Palworld bros.. ruined us..
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>>59503693
Gamefreak actually has games though.
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>>59503673
Home dex completion doesn't check your save file for its dex completion, it checks your home account for Pokemon with the origin mark. You can use the GTS to complete it not because you can trade Pokemon and then put them back into your FRLG save but because if you receive a Dugtrio with the FRLG marks and don't have one it will register for those games' Pokedex on home. So you can theoretically have the home dex completed without completing the in game dex or not owning the game at all I suppose
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>>59503693
hahaha i find it hilarious that sonyfaggot is not censored here.
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>>59503694
Can you even fucking read? How are you posting here? Are you one of those monkey slamming a keyboard an infinite number of times until an intelligible sentence is formed?
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>>59503687
Me specifically going the japanese route may be an autistic outlier but I certainly don't think wanting to replay your own owned copies and still transfer mons up is particularly out there or rare.
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>>59503693
In what regard? Which side are you on, the side dealing with the company choosing to screw over its fanbase or the side that knows it's time to throw in the towel and put your money into a different hobby/game?
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>>59503626
They only die if you don’t play them at least once every like 10 years, stop fear mongering literally not an issue for anyone here
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>>59503546
It definitely could've been, but it wasnt for some reason. Maybe user account or bad backend code.
If >>59503591 is true it could be part of it, but thats still not an impossible task, you can have 2 different apis (bank & home) pointing to the same backend database
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>>59503706
>Not an issue
>But it does happen
Please can you be more retarded?
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>>59503696
Palworld won
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>>59503124
Can't you just make a bunch of profiles on switch to transfer mons to?

>>59503149
I believe Tailow and chatot can also only currently get boomburst from a bank transfered one legally.
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>>59503703
The people who actually cared to do this had 6 years to do it. At the worst them giving Bank a grace period after the Eshop closed down should’ve been a warning to anyone who actually wanted to do this.
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>>59503715
Boomburst means nothing since the move sets get wiped anyway.
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>>59503266
>And you need (1) one retard always checking that the thing works fine. That's literally cheap as fuck.
lmao, it doesnt work like that. Keeping a retard that is the only one with legacy knowledge to keep and old piece of software becames insanely expensive at times goes on. At this point the people that were familiar with the technology of Bank or had the ability to keep it up with modern connectivity are probably just a handful and close to retire it. They either had two options: build it from scratch with new technology or replace it with a new service. Guess what path they took.
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>>59503717
>The people who actually cared to do this had 6 years to do it.
No this is exactly what I'm saying, you're acting like this is a checklist thing and not just
I maybe want to replay these games at all ever and still transfer my pokemon
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>>59503711
It won’t happen to us because everyone here is still playing the games
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>>59503721
ESL.
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>>59503723
It’s not a checklist thing. If I am going to pretend to be angry about this news that has had its inevitability clear as day for years I would take the initiative to make sure I get the most out of the feature while it is available. Either way the end is near. You can whine about it or get to Banking those pre Switch era games.
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>>59503725
Time goes by quickly, but ok. Anyway, people need to know, so they protect their data and their systems.
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So is pkhex unironically the workaround to this situation?
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>>59503726
lmao, retard.
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>>59503701
>Can you even fucking read?
Apparently you can't. It literally says right here (>>59503637) we can't bring these mons back to FRLG ONCE they're transferred to later games so as long as they've been in FRLG only we can store them, transfer between saves and trade thru GTS
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>>59503733
yeah, but you need hardware and software to extract your saves from your original game carts. I suggest you get it, if you don't have it. It will likely sell out and fast.
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>>59503734
Ignored and disregarded, Paco.
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>>59503733
sort of, but the main issue is home tracker numbers alongside losing access to legacy titles for using in pokemon champions
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>>59503733
yeah, if you don't care about online, and can't do the switch 2 games for an indefinite amount of time until it's hacked
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>>59503731
Are you honest to goodness still pulling the "people are just pretending to be angry about it" route right after I've outlined the exact scenario in which this directly and actively affects me
I don't really care if you're fine with being fucked in the ass by the corpo or not but you need the ability to at least accept the reality in which others sincerely aren't fine with it instead of covering your eyes and pretending its fake
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>>59503747
It doesnt' affect you at all, larper.
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>>59503742
so i better get a set of meta mons in nice balls for champions right? Maybe ill even get the welcome pack for more box space (ill have to borrow a switch)
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>>59503617
I think Home gives it to them? Not sure the logistics.
>>59503663
Celebi has a GBA mark in the photo and I doubt they made it exclusively for the reward Celebi
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>>59503084
>dog
>saber-toothed tiger, lion, cheetah
anon please
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dude what the fuck why isn't there a single image of the OP whore in this thread
you guys fucking suck
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>>59503754
if you can find any meta mons that look good in a legacy title then yeah
wish there was a list of what event pokemon got what ribbon that gave a title
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Would it even be possible to make a program that functions like Bank or do you think they will update Home so that fake Bank wouldn't actually be able to send pokémon over to Home?
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Should I just transfer my Pokémon at this point? I don’t think I have a choice anymore, I have like a whole 4 boxes full of important pokemon in White 2
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>>59503752
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>>59503768
lol, lmao.
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>>59503761
>wahh im horny spoonfeed me
No, be a man.
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>>59503771
nice one grok
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>>59503776
>be a man
Says the gay homo afraid of images of women.
If I'm horny then OP is too, and you clicked the thread, retard.
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>>59503770
Honestly I just like keeping my important pokemon in their game of origin with the trainer that caught them, never really understood the appeal of transferring them up once things got to the point that in general every pokemon is available to catch somewhere in a given gen
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>>59503747
A situation where you’re admitting to having a very obtuse way of replaying these old ass video games? Yes I am.
>but you need the ability to at least accept the reality in which others sincerely aren't fine with it
I don’t need to do that though.
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>>59503781
All those words typed and you could've just put her name in a booru while everyone else actually talks about the topic at hand.
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>>59503788
All those words typed and you could have told me the name and avoided this entire shitpost chain.
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>>59503791
her name is boku no pico
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>>59503787
>using old games as a way to learn japanese and wanting to reward yourself for it
>obtuse
i think you need the ability to realize you gargle on cocks
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>>59503796
>boku no pico
You really are gay.
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>>59503791
Retard
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>>59503025
>Gen 3 to Gen 4 only takes 6 pokemon a day
This is going to suck.
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>>59503801
Faggot
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>>59503665
based and DSlitepilled
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>>59503791
Dawn
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>>59503787
You're going to make me start repeating myself, this specific japanese learning autism may be relatively obtuse but it really changes very little, I could also have just been wanting to replay my own english copies randomly in the future.
Also don't you think acknowledging that you'd rather delude yourself and not accept realities you aren't comfortable with, even when directly confronted by real existing people experiencing them, is genuine schizophrenia?
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>>59503791
Misty
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>>59503768
>Would it even be possible to make a program that functions like Bank
no, not one that transfers to HOME at least, all that happens on their side so it wouldn't be known to us what and where we'd even need to send to get stuff into HOME, not to mention permissions nonetheless
>do you think they will update Home so that fake Bank wouldn't actually be able to send pokémon over to Home?
probably
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>>59503791
Lusamine
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>>59503797
Using old video games aimed at children to learn a new language is obtuse no matter how you try to spin it. You’re the one to call it autistic not me. I’m sure the performative outrage will get GF to reverse this decision haha.
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>>59503533
Champions is a gacha, the pokemon you have access to is based on what the game randomly gives you to pick from.
A much easier way to get exactly what you want is to catch your own pokemon and transfer them into Home, and then from Home into Champions.
Also what the other anon said about titles. If I want Fuckface to show up in battle as Fuckface the Master, I need to put him through the Battle Maison on 3DS.
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>>59503685
not that anon but I guess you can create custom virtual console title with any rom, then just simply backup sav.dat, or even better, use PKHeX
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>>59503808
That’s not the definition of schizophrenia so no. You can repeat yourself until you’re dead but nothing’s changing the reality of it leaving despite the vocal minority pretending to be enraged.
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>>59503817
You're replying to a guy who is not me, but implying you think it is me by saying "you're the one to call it autistic" (Since it was in fact me, not the guy you're replying to, who acknowledged my own autism)
Denying objective realities that you can't personally empathise with and then syncretising anybody who disagrees with you into a singular boegyman figure to shadowbox isn't healthy. I'm sorry your love of pokemon has made you into this.
>>59503825
Nothing is changing the reality that there are real people bothered by it, proven by the fact I exist on this earth living and breathing. No matter how much you stop your feet and say its make believe, reality will not change.
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>>59503835
Sex with Caityln.
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>>59503025
Oh boy he is mad already
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alright looking through old legacy ribbons with titles you'll probably never be able to get anymore:
it's pretty much any gift ribbon on legacy mons
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Ribbons_in_the_games#Gift_Ribbons
so PKHex the ones that look cool while you can
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Hmm...
Maybe I'll do a Ribbon challenge with a Ralts from Colosseum just to have done it once.

How much of my life would I need to devote to doing it legit?
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>>59503124
Home only allows you to store 30 pokemon for free. Anything past that is a subscription.
THAT BEING SAID, you can actually store as many as you want in Home for free. You can only ACCESS the ones past 30 if you have Premium, but they're all still there, just greyed out.
So you can drop a few dollars for a 1-month subscription, transfer everything over, then let it expire.
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>>59503835
And nothing is changing the reality of Bank shutting down no matter how much the performative vocal minority yells into the void. This fake outrage won’t amount to anything in the real world unlike this closure.
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>>59503733
>>59503738
Also Pkhex will only let you ultimately transfer them into Home IF you transplant them into a remake of the same game, and even then that's just a maybe.
If you rip a pokemon out of Gen 3 and put it straight into Scarlet/Violet, you can use the pokemon in the game just fine, but Home will see that it's a non-native pokemon which lacks a unique Home identifier (thus meaning it never moved through Home to get to the game it's in) and will refuse to accept it.

Which means that DS and 3DS game pokemon are going to be barred from Home for like a decade until TPC rereleases all of those games.
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>>59503856
For what it's worth, you don't need the Ribbon Master on your team in the Frontier Battles until you're at a specific streak.
The only thing that might be turbo aids is the Master Ball Rank Ribbon.
Also worth noting is that BDSP has the vast majority of Sinnoh Ribbons, so you theoretically just could go for the Contest and Battle Tower ribbons on the DS, then move it to the 3DS.
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I wonder if a cable like pic related could be made. Plug it into your Switch and pop the cartridge in, and directly transfer from the cartridge to home. Means they don't need to keep paying for Bank AND they'll probably milk a shit ton of money out of people who want to continue to preserve. Digital copies are kind of fucked unless you get a physical cart to trade to though.
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>>59503862
Just to clarify this, you are saying I am not a real person? I am a figment of your imagination? Perhaps you have deemed me a bot?
Because I exist as an example of a real person bothered by it, undeniably with proof. An objective refutation of your point, yet the outrage is still performative regardless somehow.
I just want to be clear about your stance here because I'm sure you can see how I'm struggling to understand your enduring ability to die on this hill.
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>>59503867
Depending how you view it, you can get the MB title in Champions
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>>59503862
>This fake outrage won’t amount to anything in the real world
Do you think real outrage would?
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I think im going through the 5 states of grief anons, currently bargaining

>a very forgotten fandom im in recently had a series of absurdly good news that felt like a miracle to me
>i feel like suddenly getting bad news from pokemon the most mainstream fandom im into is only karma balancing out

So really is not that bad i got enough time to finish all my transfers, is just a little depressing to me i’ll get over it once i see my home boxes nicely organized with every pokemon i care about and my living dex
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>>59503868
Absolutely it could be. They could even make it Bluetooth and have it connect with your smartphone's Home app.
But they won't, because the whole point of severing compatibility is to force people to buy the remakes. It was never about how much they pay for Bank. Those servers probably used less bandwidth than a Minecraft server, and Pokemon is one of the most successful media franchises on the planet.
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>>59503874
I can’t see it, no. Not my problem either since there’s nothing any of this faux outrage will accomplish.
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>>59503890
It bothers me that so much that now joe is claiming to know shit about servers on twitter just to defend this garbage
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GAMEFREAK
REWARD MY LOYALTY
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>>59503886
Maybe if they send John GameFreak a letter for an extension
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>>59503890
TPC definitely won't do it for sure, but what about the possibility of a fan tool? I think that would be harder since you'd need to find a way to bypass whatever protections HOME may have compared to an official tool that would never be made, but surely someone might try and figure it out. I doubt it'd be something that'd be produced and sold though like the action replay.
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>>59503896
Joe?
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>>59503896
He is GFs top non paid shill it shouldn't be that surprising.
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>>59503902
There's already a homebrew Bank replacement and it's existed for years.
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>>59503904
oh my bad i meant

MISTAH MERRIKUUU, owner of serebii dot com
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Maybe if we do a BBND again they’ll listen..,
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>>59503907
Oh, that's news to me. Disregard that then, I'm retarded.
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>>59503894
Its clearly your problem, or at least a problem you're bothered by (just on the inverse side of the coin), since you're spending your time repeating over and over that the people don't exist and arguing the point. If they didn't exist you wouldn't feel the need to have to run defence force in the first place, because there would be no opposition to engage with.
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>>59503868
still breaks the connection between gen 5 and 6
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>>59503838
Isn't it literal bytes of data not even a kilobyte and it's been running for years with no issue.
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>>59503902
>fan tool?
If such a thing existed, it would basically be a streamlined Pkhex.
With Pkhex, you can already rip a pokemon out of one save (even from an older game) and put it into another save (even from a newer game). This requires various degrees of modded consoles at one stage of the process or another, but that's the gist of it.

The problem with this is that when a pokemon enters Home, it receives a unique identifier. If you plop a 3DS pokemon onto your Switch, you can use it in the Switch game just fine, but if you try and move it to Home and Home sees that it's a non-native pokemon that has never passed through Home before (because it lacks the identifier) Home will refuse it. You thus would not be able to move the pokemon to other games (unless you did the Pkhex process again) and would be completely unable to move it to Champions at all. So far, no way has been found to conjure the necessary identifier.

It MIGHT be possible to Pkhex a pokemon into Home if the first game you transfer it to is a port of the game it came from, so that Home doesn't see it as a non-native pokemon. However, that would still mean many years before Gen 4, 5, 6, and 7 pokemon would be able to enter Home.
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>have a corrupted pokemon X file on my pc from a 3ds that got corrupted in a transfer
>data needs a key from a ds i don't have anymore
what do? I've been wanting to find a cure for this for the past decade? I just wanna see my boys in the new games
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>>59503902
How do you think Home works? It connects to a save on the Switch and has zero USB support. I guess you could finagle some shit that turns the save into a SwSh save and works on a Homebrew Switch but at that point you're jumping through 50 hoops for something you can do with PKHex and a Save Editor with no effort.
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>>59503719
Apparently you can relearn them if they are transfered from bank as eggmoves in this specific case.
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>>59503890
Get your head out of your ass.
Remakes will sell regardless of whether or not you can transfer pokemon, and I guarantee they're way more expensive to keep running than a minecraft server.
The truth is the amount of people for whom keeping bank available is important is incredibly small and largely autistic who'll get outraged by literally any changes.
You have to be severely out of touch to think transferring pokemon is the only value the games have.
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>>59503915
I’m not bothered though. I just find the fake outage funny. It’s a cycle for Pokemon fans that amounts to nothing. It takes little effort to mock people’s fake problems. There’s closure is coming soon regardless so why not?
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>>59503902
There's no way you could get your software to be trusted by the pokemon home backend unless its completely unsecure (it might be)
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for anyone interested in preserving title autism i baked bread in >>59503891
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>>59503936
>I guarantee they're way more expensive to keep running than a minecraft server
Yeah? Why?
How many people are accessing Pokemon Bank each day?
Each pokemon is like 400kb of data. I could store 2 billion pokemon on my fucking desktop PC's hard drive.
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>>59503890
This argument just seems silly, it's not like getting certain pokemon is actually hard these days.
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See Palfags, SEE WHAT YOU DID?!
You SHILLED your IRRELEVANT GAME, didn't even BUY Beast of Reincarnation because you were too busy "playing" PALSLOP, so now DADDY GAME FREAK has to PUNISH US for it! Clearly you didn't CARE enough, so NO MORE BANK FOR ANYONE UNTIL PALWORLD IS SUED TO THE GROUND!
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>>59503965
we transfered our mons 10 years ago lil bro
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>>59503965
What is unc yapping about
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>>59503969
?
i thought you spoke retard
man you can't even do THAT right
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>>59503961
Pokemon Bank->Home is the entire way I was able to amass a collection of pokemon to use in Champions instead of relying on the shitty gacha and limited Champions-only storage.
If Nintendo had killed Bank 6 months ago, I would've been forced to buy a Switch to do the same thing instead of being able to use what I already owned.
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>>59503971
Oh nice schizobabble
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>>59503968
I bought my first Gen 5 game last week.
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>>59503948
Because 16 people isn't peak traffic for Bank and they actually need to give a shit about things like cybersecurity and backups.
Modern cloud shit can ramp up based on demand, but cloud computing is incredibly expensive and bank predates its common adoption.
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they didn't even bother adding a way to view your ribbons on pkm home, unless you open the phone app.
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>>59504007
You think they wouldn't have downscaled? They've been running Bank on the same beefy servers made for its peak traffic when it released a decade ago, all this time?
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>>59503126
>achievements
goddammit im going to spend all winter checking off all the ones im missing arent i
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>>59504008
The differences between switch Home and (ET) phone Home are weird to me.
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>>59503821
physical original carts, retardo
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>>59504043
A couple of them are incredibly specific, so personally I shrugged and gave up on caring about them.
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>>59504008
>>59504045
>phone has labels for sorting, but no boxes
>Switch has boxes for sorting, but no labels
How fucking difficult is it to make the same program twice?
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>>59504023
Maybe, because they already paid for the hardware, you'd downgrade when its time to replace your hardware. Typically thats every 7-10 years in enterprise environments so its likely it was refreshed, but changing the system specs requires significant testing effort if you don't want to be caught with your pants down, and so downgrading the server specs has a ton of additional work which might be the responsibility of another team (QA or development) instead of sysadmins.
A timeline of 7-10 years might mean they're decomissioning instead of buying new servers too, since it might be time for the second hardware refresh.
Windows server 2016 goes end of life in early 2027 too, which could also be part of the equation.
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>>59503025
PSKM is available on switch right?
ive got decades stored on there and backed up in like 7 different folders
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>>59504055
Yeah but as far as I'm aware this post >>59503922 remains true. Any pokemon transfered to the switch games via that method is basically bricked from ever getting into Home to lacking the 3DS to Home identifier they attach to the pokemon
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>>59504048
>A couple of them are incredibly specific
Like what?
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>>59504052
What about all the much older online services that Nintendo IS still running?
You can still re-download previously purchased titles for the goddamn Wii.
Why would Nintendo keep that around, but not Bank?
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>>59504059
Can't you fake that identifier? how do tourney guys pass their pokemon as legit if so?
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>>59504072
>Can't you fake that identifier?
No such method currently exists.
>how do tourney guys pass their pokemon as legit if so?
Aren't tournaments played entirely on Switch? No need for the pokemon to touch Home at all.

The identifier is only applied when a pokemon enters Home for the first time, so a pokemon generated on a Switch game doesn't need to have it. Additionally, I'm pretty sure that generated pokemon can be transferred to Home if you want, since Home doesn't expect them to have the ID.
The problem is with non-native pokemon. If you use PkHex to rip a pokemon out of the 3DS and put it in a Switch game, you can use it in the Switch game, sure. But if you try to move it to Home, Home will look at it and think "how did it get here"? It's not native to this game, but it also has not passed through Home because it does not have the tracking ID. Thus, Home rejects it as illegitimate.
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>>59503299
Make a tutorial about gen 4 and gen 5 please.
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>>59504072
>how do tourney guys pass their pokemon as legit if so?
IIRC while Home checks for the identifier, the mainline games still don't.

In any case, its impossible to fake the identifier properly, because it is created as a unique value by Home's servers:
-if you invent a fake the identifier on a Pokemon in Gen 8/9, Home will recognize the identifier does not exist on its side, and that Pokemon is illegal.
-If you re-use an identifier from a legit Pokemon that passed through Home, then Home will recognize something impossible changed with the Pokemon data attached to the identifier and know it is illegal
-Clones get deleted if Home detects more than 1 Pokemon existing using the same identifier.
-Pokemon hacked as from Gen 7 or earlier in a Gen 8-9 game with no identifier are detected by Home as illegal and can't enter Home to get an identifier.
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>>59504072
a good chunk of people ended up getting their pokemon disqualified from a world tourney because they lacked proper home tracking, like ursaluna for instance. and if pokemon home also detects say, an ursaluna who never had a home tracking number in s/v, then it won't let it transfer
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>>59504059
hmm. Maybe ill just transfer in some clones to house offline in SV to be extra sure
>>59504048
>>59504063
the main ones im missing are the really specific "transfer X from Y game" like blastoise from VC blue but theres not too many of those im missing, can spend a weekend or two on each VC and send those up
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>>59503025
I'm not familiar but what issues/problems does this cause? Can we not transfer from certain games now?
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>>59504071
Maybe it actually uses the same backend as the modern eshop, so they're not maintaining additional servers just keeping the files available
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>>59503928
back it up and use pkhex
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>>59503279
i can offer you help in transferring all the way into HOME if you have an account
if its over 30 mons youll need a paid sub to store them all on HOME, under 30 is free i think?
msg me on discord @hypertriggers
i have all the equipment however you want to do it
i can either directly transfer into 3ds & bank then to home or if youre autistic about it we can move one gen at a time to do it "legit," just know the method using cfw is WAY faster and produces exactly the same data
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>>59504113
physical gen 3 to 7 will soon be completely locked out. soon the only games home will support are those that run on the switch
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>>59504126
Nothing on physical gen 4, 5 and 6 can be transferred either then??
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>>59504124
>directly transfer into 3ds
Are you expecting him to mail you his GBA cartridge?
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>>59504133
do you speak english? do you know what "number to number" means?
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>>59504133
Correct.
It actually won't even be possible to transfer from Gen 5->6 or 6->7 either, since that relied on Bank, but homebrew/Pretendo can probably fix that.
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>>59504142
what if I have a digital copy of Sun
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>>59504133
from what it sounds like, after february 27, ANYTHING on a game file from a 3ds title or older will be impossible to migrate into HOME
It *might* be possible to use them in gen 8 & 9 games using 3rd party software on a hacked switch, and maaaybe gen 10 but idk
>>59504138
youre right i was glossing over that its a cart and not emulated, if he can somehow get his save file off the cart then i could do the rest in half an hour, done it multiple times for myself and others
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>>59504142
Under the context of the discussion it looks more like transferring gen 3 to 7 rather than everything to to 7

>>59504143
>>59504154
Damn this sucks.. a hacked solution would eventually pop up like before but it's a shame there's no official way to bring your bros over if you play those games after the date
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>>59504081
>>59504089
>>59504090
Then I guess irt is over. You can gen any pokemon, but never use it outside of the game you genned it in. oh well. I am glad I quit while I was ahead I guess.
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>>59503043
It's pretty great, anon. Black 2 will never go outta fashion with offline battle modes and a plethora of pokemon to catch and collect
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What was stopping them from just using local wireless for transfers instead of requiring a paid service? It worked for Gen 4 to 5 and I know the DS can talk to the 3DS and the 3DS to the Switch
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>>59504162
nothing, haha
We all know it is just greedy suits being greedy, nothing else.
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>>59504162
>What was stopping them from just using local wireless for transfers instead of requiring a paid service?
Wanting a paid service was stopping them from just using local wireless.
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>>59504162
Like people keep mentioning "Oh they couldn't keep the servers up forever", but like, they didn't have to use servers.

Objectively they could release a offline local wireless method right fucking now that would work forever
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>>59504162
haha, i dont really know
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>>59504154
One thing you COULD do for him, slow-style, is for him to transfer his mons from Gen 3 to 4 and then use the DNS trick to get access to the GTS and he could give the pokemon to you over the Internet that way.
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>>59504171
In Gen 6 the motive was money and perhaps lumping(It's possible they planned Bank first and then decided to lump the Poketransporter into that. (I literally was worried back in 2013 when they announced how it would work because I knew someday this would happen), but by now the motive is future money from re-releases as well as the fact none of the games have an inherent inbuilt system the way Gen 4 and 5 do.

They definitely still could, but they aren't gonna. Best case scenario is the fans can bully them enough to buy an extra year like PS3 online got.
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>>59504154
>after february 27, ANYTHING on a game file from a 3ds title or older will be impossible to migrate into HOME
There is one hope remaining.
If a pokemon ripped out of a save via PkHex and put onto a save for the equivalent Switch PORT (not remake like BDSP) is recognized as a native of that Switch port, then Home will not expect it to have a tracking ID which means it does not need one. You would be able to transfer it into Home as normal.
Unfortunately even IF that works, it would be limited to pokemon that can be caught in games which have Switch ports. So for the immediate future, FRLG and nothing else.
But maybe in a couple decades the bridge could be rebuilt all the way back up to USUM once TPC finally releases ports of all of them, if they ever do.
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>>59504158
>You can gen any pokemon, but never use it outside of the game you genned it in
You can if you gen it in a game with native Home compatibility, like a Switch game.
Just can't gen it on 3DS and then transfer it to Switch.
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>>59504171
>they could release a offline local wireless method right fucking now
I'm not sure the infrastructure exists to wirelessly push new software to the 3DS anymore, or even updates for existing software.
They MIGHT be able to release a program that people could put on their 3DS's SD card, but I don't know.
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>>59504191
So if I ever change my mind, I can still revive my mons in the future if I give in and buy new games?
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>Gen 3 ports have one-way transfers into home, so you can't, say, get all RSE ribbons and then move it to FRLG for the champion one, or viceversa
Well, I guess those OG ribbon masters are going to look even more prestigious now, since it's going to be impossible to recreate them starting from February
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>>59504193
The point is moreso that 13 years ago they could have easily done that instead of that they did. Had they stuck with it being a free built in thing you unlocked in the post game and that used local wireless we wouldn't have any issues.

Tying it to an online service gave it a permanent ticking clock
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>>59504196
Depends on your definition of "revive".
Create new ones with the same stats, moves, ribbons, etc. as your old ones? Absolutely. Though the summary page will consider them to have been caught in that new game. You can also transfer these new ones into Home just fine.

Actually pull the old ones out of your old save files and put them in the new ones? As it turns out, ALSO yes, easily, but they won't be able to be transferred to Home.

After February, the only possible avenue for transferring pre-Switch pokemon into Home specifically would be >>59504189.
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>>59504202
It's not one-way. It's like Let's Go where being put in another game poisons the mon and it can no longer go back to the original game.
So you can transfer a mon from FR into Home and back into FR, or you can transfer it from FR into Home and into LG, and you can also trade it with others and do whatever else you want with it in that time. Just as long as it never sets foot in a game that isn't FRLG.

Considering RSE is in the same generation, it may be the case that when those come out, they get added to the pool and pokemon will be able to hop all over Gen 3 until they get transferred to a non-Gen 3 game, at which point they can't go back.
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>>59504196
For old mons if their old data you'd need to gen them separately in each title.

Which means without a breakthrough in Switch 2 hacking, impossible for Wind/Waves unless you start transfering up now.
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>>59504204
I am not that autistic like retards who say an exact copy is "not the same, cope". So for me, that's just fine.
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>>59504210
I was robbed of some money. I literally can't buy a switch or pay for home, even if I liked the switch games.
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>>59504202
>and then move it to FRLG for the champion one
There are no unique FRLG ribbons, Gen 3 has the same Champion Ribbon shared between RSE and FRLG.
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>>59504211
It wouldn't even be an exact copy. Origin mark would have to be different at minimum, probably met location as well. Remember that it has to be considered a native of the game it's being genned in in order for Home to not complain about the lack of a Home Tracking ID.
The pokemon would function the same, though.
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>>59504227
They can't take away my memories.
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>>59504235
Your memories aren't bytes on a cartridge anon, they exist in your head.
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>>59504209
According to Merrick, TPCI posted wrong information so we won't be able to transfer FRLG mons back even if you didn't moved them to later games
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>>59504240
To revive them is to live them again. That's all I need.
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>Have at least one game of every gen except 5
>Have a Gamecube-GBA link cable
>Have Colosseum
>More than enough time to shiny hunt a ralts in gen 3 and make a ribbon master gardevoir out of it
>But I can't because a copy of BW/BW2 in my native language (which I need because I'm using my childhood cartridges) is like a hundred dollars and it's probably going to get even more expensive when people start buying them all to rescue their mons
Very nice
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Is it worth doing an origin dex using the virtual console Gen 1/2 games, or just stick to my cartridges for FRLG and HGSS? I was originally just going to do the remakes for the Gen 1-2 dexes, but now I'm wondering if it'll have more value if I got it from the virtual console. Granted, it might not be truly legitimate if I did the virtual console since they'll be jailbroken downloads since I never actually bought the games.
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>>59504245
>According to Merrick, TPCI posted wrong information
What's his source that is apparently superior to TPC themselves?
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>>59504272
I don't know why Poke Transporter wasn't also compatible with gen 4 games.
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>>59504272
Serves you well for not buying it when it came out. Stay mad.
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>>59504272
>which I need because I'm using my childhood cartridges
Poke Shifter doesn't work across languages?
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>>59504202
>Well, I guess those OG ribbon masters are going to look even more prestigious now, since it's going to be impossible to recreate them starting from February
I guess, but it's hard to tell aside from posting pics online. Though it'd be funny if the game rattled off every moniker from ribbons and title when you sent the pokemon into battle, instead of just one.
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>>59504279
Apparently the japanese site says we can't transfer them back AT ALL but the english one literally states that we can use GTS to help fill out the FRLG dex to get celebi.
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>>59504306
That probably means that if you use the GTS to get a Pokemon with a GBA mark you didn't have, it'll log for completion. Not that you can transfer them back.
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>>59504272
You can't true Ribbon Master a Shiny Gardevoir anyway since one purified in XD gets +1 Ribbon but is shiny locked.
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Can't Pkhex transfer mons?

I'm confused
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>>59504322
Such a pointless HOME dex reward if we can't even use Celebi in FRLG
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>>59504337
Yes, but although you can transfer pre-Switch pokemon into Switch games and use them there, they won't ever be able to enter Pokemon Home.
Home sees that the pokemon is non-native to the game and sees that it lacks a Home Tracking ID (which a pokemon gets the first time it is transferred to Home) and concludes based on those two things that the pokemon can't be legitimate, and denies it entry to Home.
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>>59504337
You can PKHex a mon into Gen 8/9 with the attributes and origin of your Gen 7 and earlier mons.

But they will never be transferable to Home due to Home's server side identification check - Home keeps a database of every Pokemon to cross through it, and every legit Gen 7 transfer had to go through Home to get into Gen 8-9. Home looks at the PkHex created mon and sees it never entered it before, and therefore could not be a legal Gen 7 mon.

This means they will be stranded on the game you PKHexed them on for good, since Home is now the only way to jump around generations or the Legends games or BDSP
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>>59504343
Ok, but can you explain why do i need to use home if I can keep regenning the same mon in other games endlessly? seems pointless. I just want to use my pokemon, not play online or competitve.
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Just kinda seems like an insane move to create another gen 3 tier barrier preventing pokemon going forward when they clearly knew what a tragedy that was back in the day
I would've thought they'd go all out to do the utmost to prevent this from ever happening again
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>>59504352
Wind/Waves is Switch 2 exclusive and Switch 2 has not yet been hacked or able to be emulated.
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>>59504358
i can wait. Don't care how long it takes. You can't complain, and as long as it doesn't give game freak money, I love it.
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>>59504357
The only things I can think of is that it's because they're planning on putting all the old games on Switch and therefore they can justify it as "you can get them all here", or they're planning an accessory/hardware piece to let you transfer directly from the games to Home. The latter is unlikely, but some people think it because service ends right before Pokemon Day, which would line up with an announcement for that the very next day. The former is much more likely.
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1. Grab Victini from Black/White
2. Grab as many Alolan Pokemon as you can because their remakes are still a decade away
3. shiny hunt Pokemon Crystal Celebi
4. Grab all Unovan Pokemon since it'll be a while until they get their own Legends game, especially N's Pokemon in B2W2
5. Find a way to grab a legit Zarude

>Mythicals
Mew = easy grab in BDSP with a Let's Go save file
Celebi = found on Pokemon Crystal after beating the Elite 4 twice (that means beating Red)
Jirachi = easy grab in BDSP with a Let's Go save file
Manaphy = found in Legends Arceus, you need to play that game anyway to also grab the Hisuian Pokemon, Shaymin, Darkrai, Enamorus and Arceus
Darkrai = found on ZA, not a problem even if you missed out on the limited BDSP event (fucking Goyfreak)
Shaymin = Legends Arceus
Arceus = 1000% Legends Arceus and BDSP
Victini = only obtainable in Black/White
Meloetta = common as fuck
Genesect = in ZA
Keldeo and the musketeers = common as fuck
Diancie, Hoopa and Volcanion = in ZA
Gen 7 mythicals are also in ZA
Zarude = only in Sword/Shield, rare as fuck
Pecharunt = Kitakami DLC, can't be missed
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>>59504343
>>59504351
Guess I would need to keep a backup of my squad while letting everyone else move into Home.
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>>59504387
Darkrai is also in Arceus.
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>>59503025
Sneed
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>>59503786
Same bro
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Question, has anyone transferred the Event Pokémon obtained via the "legit" DNS servers and PKSM save editing to HOME and can that cause issues? I just need to see how much I have to transfer over to HOME before the gates close.
>>59503058
>9,000
That's small potatoes considering the fact that HOME is will be compatible with more games in the future, they really should've doubled it to 12,000.
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>>59504407
the dsn trick mons work just fine in home
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>>59504367
No way in hell they're releasing even a small portion of the gens so soon. At best we can expect Ruby and Sapphire in October, then Emerald on Pokémon Day next year for the double dip. I seriously don't think they will ever port the DS games at all.
>>59504407
No reason they can't do that in the future when the need arises. Keep in mind they raised the limit to accommodate the very fringe case of someone transferring over a completely full Pokémon Bank account, so it stands to reason that they'll increase it again in 3 or 4 gens. Honestly, by that point we'll most likely have a new app just like HOME replaced Bank.
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>>59504409
Oh that's good. One thing I forgot to mention is that when I mentioned PKSM save editing I was referring to using the program to inject Wonder Cards into your game, getting the Event Pokémon from 'em, and transferring 'em to HOME.
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>>59504418
pretty sure that is ok too since it's just that, the "real" wonder card basically
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ill just wait for austin john plays to release the best minmax version on how to grab everything before bank shuts down
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>>59504422
Even better, I guess I'll have to pull some serious moves between now and February. I have a complete set of DPPt/HGSS and BW/BW2 (with two extra copies White and White 2 being in Japanese) comb over.
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>>59504417
>I seriously don't think they will ever port the DS games at all.
Why? If you think that can't be done there's been several DS games that got ported over to modern consoles, with their dual screen and touch features intact.
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>>59503115
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXht78qQ1E8

They did it, they left them without a job. Hoard as many Bank Spindas as you can, there will be some window in time where they willl be the most valuable thing for HOME completitions
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>>59504509
FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK I GOTTA FINISH MY LIVING SPINDA DEX FUCKKKKKKKKKK I GOTTA GET SO MANY
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>>59504047
then just use GB flash, its better from DSi because it can read and write on GB,GBC and GBA carts.
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>>59504418
It worked when I did it a few years ago to get some of the 3DS events that I missed.
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>>59504407
DNS works fine but a few can't go because the DNS guy has some game specific things tagged as being available for all versions, also no hall of origin arceus gets in.
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>>59503517
There are guides for GF Mew for VC, just need two 3DS (one must be hacked to be a "distro" savefile)
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>>59503624
I have Crystal on 3DS and Pokémon transporter and Pokémon bank. I still have time to shiny hunt right?


Is Pokémon HOME free? I really don't want to give them my fucking money.
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>>59504124
You still there anon?

>>59504154
Would it be easier if I legit just mailed you my emerald cartridge? Or would it be easier transfering from a Platinum cart?

I was planning on buying Platinum and transfering migrating my emerald team there.

With my emerald and Platinum teams that should be under 30.

HOME is free is it's under 30 right?

I might DM you on Discord. I also want to play SS/HG becuase I've heard those are kino games.

Should I play SS/HG???

Thanks for reaching out.
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>>59503699
>Do it with HOME trades only
I believe this is the reason that we get a regular Celebi reward instead of a shiny one, they care more about the shiny version
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Everything ends and I hate this
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Whats the best way to transfer Gen 4 to Gen 5 if I have a flashcart?
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>>59504668
i *could* do it if you were to actually mail your cart to me but it would certainly be less time consuming and less risky if you were to do it locally with your own hardware. and the final steps would require me either logging into your home account on my device or trading them over to you from my own home account one at a time.

if you do it yourself with no hacked hardware the process will look like
1) have Emerald in gba slot on ds
2) transfer to Gen 4 game & use pal park
3) transfer to Gen 5 game & use poketransfer lab
4) use poketransporter on 3ds to send to pokemon bank
5) use bank to transfer to HOME
>>59504627
HOME provides 30 slots of storage for free. You can also use trading features and transfer in/out of compatible games

the way i could do it with the cart is i would use pal park to get your emerald data on one of my gen 4 carts, then put that directly into my 3ds and use PKSM to just copy them over to a 3ds game and into bank from there

checklist of what you need to have
Emerald
DS
any gen 4 game with pal park
any gen 5 game with poketransfer lab
a 3ds with poketransporter & bank installed
OR if you were to buy a 3rd party tool that copies save files off of GBA carts you could send the save file and i can transfer every/anything on it into bank & home
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YOU ALWAYS LOSE WITH ONLINE SERVICES
The transfer from gen 3 to gen 4 was done with HARDWARE that you OWN. Thus it can never be taken from you.
But it's not just the transfers. The loss of Bank also means losing the bank itself. In Gen 3, you could bank your Pokemon in Pokemon Box Ruby & Sapphire for the Gamecube. This is still available today. But gen 6 and 7 will now no longer have access to any kind of software to store their Pokemon.
YOU ALWAYS LOSE WITH ONLINE SERVICES
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>>59503144
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Shitass move

They should have given players 1 full year instead of like 6 months
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>>59503025
Pokemon will become a part of the Dead Internet.
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>>59504367
>service ends right before Pokemon Day
I was wondering about that, it seems like the absolute worst timing for a piece of bad news like this.
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I know it is not the biggest of flexes but I guess a Gen 3 shiny Shedinja on a non-standard Poke Ball would be kinda cool. Perhaps RNG manip is the choice for such endeavor instead of blindly going full odds encounters given the 6 months deadline. I hate the whole shutting down thing with all my being


>>59504881
Probably will diverse attention with WiWa news
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>>59504389
Why not move your main pokemon into Home as well? Not done using them in the old games?
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>>59504903
I'm planning to break out my old GBA Action Replay. I'll need all the shinies I can get to help finish the Home dexes via trading since I don't own any of the Switch games.
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>>59504839
They could have given players a decade. They're the fucking Pokemon company.
They can afford servers. I don't care how much the servers cost, they can afford it.
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What is the best way to backup/extract GBA save files, getting a DS R4 card?
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>>59504935
It's not about the servers, it's about the consumer hype and the momentum of selling new games and merchandise; even when there is a backlash against planned obsolence, they will pretend to have a 5 minute memory span as they scorch the earth with their business plans.
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>>59505020
And owning a ds fat/lite
I don't trust third party garbage. Some retard here suggested one such thing. GB flash or something.
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>>59505143
R4 is third party.
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This sucks
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Time to use saves to complete my Origin dex I guess.
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>>59503607
I for one was waiting for Pokémon to release a game that wasn’t a total shitstorm. Now they’ve forced my hand before we can see if Wind/Waves is any good and that’s just not right.
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>>59505508
That's what /v/irgins don't get. There was still some hope for a good game, now they are going to demolish the bridge. It is actually over, for real.
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>>59503626
idk, I checked every DS and 3DS cart I owned after letting most of them just sit around for 10+ years, 40/40 are all still fine.
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>>59505582
Congrats, you won the lottery. Go buy a ticket then.
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>>59505602
not that lucky.

I lost my Crystal save to the battery drying out a few years ago and feel sad I didn't think to back it up before that happened.
Also think my Level 7 trick Mew from Yellow had been moved over there at the time via Stadium 2, so oops.



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