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Begonia Boy Edition

>I want to learn the game, where do I begin?
Download PTCGL at https://tcg.pokemon.com/en-us/tcgl
The game has a quick tutorial and a bunch of decent decks to get you started against other beginners or against the AI. Some of those decks are very close to meta too. You can also go to your local game store and see if people are playing Pokémon.

>I know how to play, how do I make my own deck?
You have a decent beginner's guide at https://www.justinbasil.com/guide
There's also the old /tcg/ guide at https://imgur.com/a/W4NkOu6
After that, look up meta decks and try to reverse engineer them to see how things work.

>Where to find meta decks?
For big irl events, go to https://limitlesstcg.com/decks
For online events, go to https://play.limitlesstcg.com/decks?game=PTCG
For japanese events, go to https://pokecabook.com/archives/1417

Previous thread: >>59486175

Old /tcg/ pastebin: https://pastebin.com/Ge95YuMA
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festival will win worlds and it'll be sad
cheesy deck
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End the fucking maintenance. We all know you aren't fixing anything.
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I have a massively unpopular opinion but there should be Pokemon championship tournaments at local card shops and elsewhere for people to win cards, booster packs, and boxes. Why not reward die hard fans than allow scalpers and resellers to run amok? These are the people who continuously support the series like no other
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>>59517299
The honest answer is that card shops already operate on the thinnest margins imaginable because of how volatile the market is. Scalpers and get-rich-quick retards are good for business, in that they're a guaranteed revenue stream for as long as people continue buying in.
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>>59517337
>The honest answer is that card shops already operate on the thinnest margins imaginable because of how volatile the market is. Scalpers and get-rich-quick retards are good for business, in that they're a guaranteed revenue stream for as long as people continue buying in.
What about video game shops?
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>>59517379
Do you mean video game stores that sell cards, or are you talking about the retro market? If you mean the latter, it's not quite the same. However many carts of, say, Chrono Trigger are all that will ever exist, so it's just the same number trading hands. TPCi is actively printing more and more cards each year, but they still can't meet demand. 60% of all Pokemon cards ever printed have been printed in the past six years.
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>>59517299
every other tcg does something similar and they don't have as many scalpers or tiktok trend followers
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>>59517299
Wait, that isn't how it works around you? Here in Mexico that's exactly how it works. What do you even get by winning local tournaments if not sealed product?
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>>59517413
The only popular TCG that doesn't have scalpers right now is YGO, and that's because sealed YGO products are a massive money loss for shops. The Palworld TCG literally just launched and it already has scalpers.
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>>59517423
>Wait, that isn't how it works around you? Here in Mexico that's exactly how it works. What do you even get by winning local tournaments if not sealed product?
Bragging rights
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>>59517423
you do get sealed product, but I think he's advocating for more or to only sell to people who actually play the game
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>>59517438
More product would rise the entrance fee which might drive players away.
>only sell to people who actually play the game
That would be a disaster for everyone. Not only would tpc sell a lot less product but metagame singles would shoot up in price, putting us in similar situation to yugioh or mtg where a good deck costs a mortgage payment.
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>>59517426
you could say mtg doesn't have scalpers because they want the vanity sets and collector shit while all the playable stuff is outside of that
gundam card game doesn't have scalpers but the prices are so high for singles
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I'm personally fine with promos of competitive card for locals. I saw they're giving acrylic stands for PoGo which is a fun idea too. The sealed prizing can be for regionals since those are expensive to enter
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>>59517226
nidokiiiiiiiing :D
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>>59517842
I still don't get what Mega Lucario is doing up there. Is it just preying on all the Mega Kanga in Mega Ray and Raging Bolt?
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>>59517852
It can ko ray with a power pro. You have the initiative on not putting a 3 prizer down early too
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>>59517879
Needs 2 Power Pro. M-Ray resists Fighting.
270 - 30 (resist) + 30 + 30
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been playing for a week, the sequencing is just starting to make sense, dumpstered a Dragapult player
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Eww the cards look awful after this update
FAs are even worse than before and everything has a black border

Why is it so hard for them to make them look good? They spent all that development time making a fucking card masterdex instead of making the cards themselves look good
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>>59518150
Wait you can't disable the board visuals now for certain pokemon types? Fuck off what is wrong with them
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>>59517842
Beautiful. Raging Bull is back.
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>>59517842
Besides the slowking this is a good meta for crustle isn't it?
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>>59518332
No, because Toucannon exists.
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>>59518398
in zam? that deck is festival lead tier just dodge them and pair into ray and bolt
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>>59517852
That's pretty much it. Same reason raging is up there too, it preys on both kanga and ray with koraidon and tapu koko respectively. Truly megafug came to shake up the meta.
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>>59517852
Mega lucario is my main deck and I pretty consistently beat excadrill, zorark, and pult. Zam and grimm feel even. Bad matchups are psychic box and the other single prizers but I feel like any non psychic multi prize decks you have a good shot at. Spent months messing around with tech cards but I feel like the normal list with a meowth, hariyama and the unfair stamp is the best. If you go second and get solrock oks on turn one it’s pretty hard for them to come back. Dunsparce is a meme but having access to the ex makes psychic matchups better although it makes everything else noticeably worse
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>>59518977
These are the kind of retards I share a thread with....
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>>59518977
Really? I've been testing M-Lucario for the past week, and I've preferred the Dudun build with Cape, just running between Lucarios and using Wally's to avoid them taking KOs.
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>>59517226
making this post without any research but is playing draft common?
it's pretty big in mtg but for pokemon the cards cost way too much to play with regularly, but i could see draft solving it
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>>59519192
>but for pokemon the cards cost way too much to play with regularly
The best deck in the game is $40 to build from scratch.
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>>59519192
>the cards cost way too much to play with regularly
????
You don't have to play with IR's exclusively, you know?
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>>59517852
It's enjoying one last month before Mew ex
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>>59519277
Nothingburger. Only a couple decks can fit mew ex without disrupting their gameplan and even then Mew is gonna be a huge liability.
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We did it boys, master league. I messed around in casual doing the battle pass and dialing in my decks before I did the ladder
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>>59519081
I think being able to boss and play another supporter the same turn is just too good. I do have a lot of Wally’s and air balloons in my deck and retreat and heal then swap lucarios for back to back mega braves; almost nothing ohko’s you so the cape is kind of pointless imo. I think the belt and stamp are better. the belt is really good vs ex decks but the stamp is good vs every deck and can potentially cripple your opponent
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>>59519316
Mew ex is going to be a must play in every deck that has a stage 3 attacker and has zero fucking retreat cost.
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>>59519397
>Mew ex is going to be a must play in every deck that has a stage 3 attacker
There are 4 of them
>pult
Nope, the deck cares too much about its energies so it rather have them attached to a bigger body that doesn't die by a single blow so easily
>Alakazam
I believe they would rather stick to single prizers
>Grimms
Can't accelerate energy to it
>Garchomp
Doesn't benefit from the Cynthia's suite

Anything else?
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>>59519316
Mew ex can serve the same purpose as clefairy ex does against lucario. Most decks have trouble keeping up with lucario but with a psychic one shotter you can place it down, crispin, and then phantom dive for 400. Clefairy might still get used but you can't play around mew like you could with clefairy so it's worth looking into at least if lucario is popular still when we get our sets
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>>59519717
>Most decks have trouble keeping up with lucario
Least delusional furfag
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>>59519743
why do you think pult was playing clefairy in the first place? because it's not for the mirror
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Okay, Friday is my final day at the card shop because I'm moving. They have a tournament. I want to run Flareon Box as a going away thing. I know one person is going to be running Slowking and that Flareon Box is an instant lose vs Slowking. Suggestions on how to tech for it?
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>>59519752
Just don't let them put Academy up.
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>>59519752
Just go in there and lose.
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>>59519752
the match up sounds terrible even if you do tech for it. maybe just hope you don't play against them at the tournament.
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Raging Bolt suddenly having positive winrate against Dragapult on Limitless is something to worry about...
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>>59520097
Why? The deck is a brick pile.
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>>59520143
Then what's up with that?
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>>59520097
It was one of the decks favored into pult before rotation. Obviously it's a lot weaker now but it still does it's job against it.
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>>59520158
But before Pitch Black it was basically negative against all Dragapult except Dusknoir
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>>59520145
deck works whenever people fall for the 3 prizer memedecks, as soon as the megaray craze ends it will go back to tier H
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Holy shit
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>>59520204
It's doing better againstthe other pult variants but 50/50 into pure pult and excadrill doesn't look promising.
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>>59520204
excadrill makes everyone his bitch
in the tcg in the game he cant be stopped
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>>59517299
>>59517337
>card shops already operate on the thinnest margins imaginable
for the pikachu california promo tournament
two card shops near me have two different entry fees
>15$
>40$
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I just want to call sellers
>sellers
>that dont sell btw
nigger faggots on cardmarket.com is that too much to ask??????
why cant the whole internet be like 4chan we call people faggot jew bitch nigger faggots?? it's not fair bro...

tl;dr this """""""seller""""""" didn't want to sell at all because i asked him if his price could come down at all and showed him several websites with prices around the 100-120 range, and he was all "i'll keep my price at £145 thanks" and it's the "thanks" that's made me seethe for the last 4 days because i just know it was meant sarcastically since he cant say anything else because i would report him, as he would me if i called him a niggerfaggot and then it's just not worth it is it? lose access to cm.com and never be able to buy from thre again...

anyway got some pics, thanks to that anon that was all "just buy it, guranteed" blah blah, your wording really helped me make up my mind on this, biggest purchase and best purchase so far!

so happy with it!

also why do people sell as "near mint"? this thing is obviously mint... i took some pics of the side and bottom and stuff, there's no nothing... it's mint... i think it's mint.

also got lugia v that i was talking about the other day, and i did the 2x zoom thing but the photos are bad full res so i've sent slightly better looking but smaller res ones... im taking pictures with a 10 year old phone, maybe it's that idk

anyway yeah long post is long, but super happy, thanks for the encouragement to just buy the card! i guess you can buy happiness! :-)
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>>59520307
just make an alt account and offer him wayy less
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>>59520311
too obvious, and how do you alt account? dont you need a real name and email and stuff?
also, have you done that? lol
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>>59520307
If you're going to be a whiny bitch nigger faggot, at least take your whiny bitch nigger faggot ass to the correct thread.
>>59514636
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>>59520453
>whiny bitch nigger faggot
wow kys you ozempic needing, oxygen thieving, liver failing, cancer creating, pokemon trading card GAME generaling posting whore-having mothering son of a bitch!

it's an easy mistake to make, not like refusing to sell a card when you are over-pricing it in the first place... thanks NIGGER!

and it was early morning uwu... fucking sperg!


anyway cerys jones alakazam deck pwns this genny!
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Been playing M-Lucario for a few days now, barely any losses. Feels like the tank build with Cape is the way to go until people start playing Tower/Scrapper again
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>>59521333
What do you do against Slowking?
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>>59521646
Pray to high roll or just lose. Can't win em all.
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>>59521333
Do you think cape is better than the stamp? It seems like most stuff that ohko’s you is hitting psychic weakness where the cape won’t save you and if you’re Wallying next turn it doesn’t really matter.
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>>59520302
>*blocks ur path*
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I haven't played Live for over a year. Is my account supposed to be still in Master League? I thought your rank was supposed to degrade?
And if I am in Masters for Pitch Black, why can't I collect the ladder rewards from the lower leagues?
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>>59521781
Try playing a game and win or lose to see if that causes it to correct itself.
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>>59521814
So I am not supposed to be in Master Ball, right? That's concerning.
I've conceded several games on Ranked. The Rating number does go down but other than that, I'm still in Master Ball. Maybe I'll try losing fully.
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>>59521848
Since you're in master now I guess you won't derank then. You'll probably derank next reset. As for getting the rank up rewards, I don't know, maybe it's best to just submit a ticket about that
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Any predictions for worlds?
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Somebody I hate, playing a deck I hate, wins worlds...
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>>59522046
Either dragapult hammers mirror or crustle mirror
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is there a polite way to donk a 7 year old?
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>>59522060
before they end their turn ask them if there is something else they want to do like playing items or putting pokemon in play. If they say no then just make it quick.
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>>59522046
Festival will win
Pult is a bit washed
Excadrill is too strong and you need to tech for it
Raging Bolt now consistently beats Pult and Excadrill
Liam and Tord won't make it to top 8 but another Zoroark will and he runs berry
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>>59522108
Slowking will fuck everyone in the ass.
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>>59522123
Now that that video came out people will tech Shaymin
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>>59522137
that's the plan, then they get their meowth/fez/latias sniped by zeraora!
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top 8 will be all nips
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Round 1 in locals today, my sharpedo faced a festival lead. I was already joking about how my night would start with an L.
Oppo managed to have a slow start (shaymin active, couldnt do shit for 2 turns). When he got an attacker it was fish, so it couldnt KO even with 2 attacks. I Boss'd his only apple, twice. 3 monkeys bench but only managed to get them live for one turn the whole match.
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>>59522257
>Oppo managed to have a slow start
They always do, majority of the time festival lead bricks lmao. So thats always a real wincon win playing decks weak to it. I was on ladder today and one of the festival leads I played did nothing but draw pass with grookey in the active. It's blazepult levels of jank
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>>59522060
Donk them and take your win, then explain to them why it happened and offer to play another game for fun so they don't get discouraged. I've had to do this before.
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I have a small request. Does anyone know of a database that has all the Pokemon cards made in existence and their variants? I don't want any card unscanned. I recently sold something and I want to give back to the community by making something for people who love cards and love playing them. Any help would be appreciated
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Hmm. I see.
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>every deck you play bricks
>every deck your opponents plays is a god hand
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>>59522335
You will never escape the dragapult meta
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>>59522311
I dunno how extensive it truly is but https://pkmncards.com/
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>>59522311
>>59522547 here, I should probably look before i post. This site i linked seemes to primarily have english sets but its got a good majority of things in good quality scans. I think checking by sets on bulbapedia might be your best bet for something exhaustive but its a crapshoot on the quality of the scans there i think.
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>>59522311
No singular source is completely comprehensive but pkmncards and bulbapedia like the other anon said are a good place to start. pokeos.com is another good one.
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>>59522309
>Playing for fun
The only fun part of this game is winning. Also it's not like we have a shortage of players, I'd just move on.
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>>59522289
I didnt even need to trap shaymin or a monkey with yveltal but I know they only have like one out (Kieran) out of that situation.
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>>59523115
You're right, I guess saying "Haha, get fucked little Timmy" and spending the 20 minutes left in the round doing nothing is the better option.
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>>59523207
You can go take a piss/wash your hands, check your phone, check some deals, browse store products, shitpost in 4chan, go grab a snack, etc.
There are a million things better to do than entertaining some random kid lol
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Just started playing, decided to learn the game with the dragapult deck you get in the beginning in ptcg live because it's the best guy apparently. What's the best way to spend in-game credits? Should I be saving for future events or do I buy something in particular to get crafting mats?
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>>59523239
best way to spend in game credits is to buy packs from the 25th anniversary set because the returns allow you to craft multiple ex cards after you've mastered the set. we don't have events to save up for just sets, but after a dozen or so games and completing about half of the current battle pass should give you enough currency to craft and card you want
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HANGRYFORWORLDS

Twitch drop will also start on the 28th
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I still don't get how the fuck is this guy top of the meta. Like, he seems like a worse raging bolt to me, am I missing something?
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I'm kinda sick of losing every single coin flip, bros.
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>>59522056
Please god let us see a crustle mirror
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World's surprise? Dark box of course. The question what attacker will they use out of the big 3
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are there two good decks that use basically the same package of Trainer cards? I want to sleeve up a few decks in the same sleeves and just swap out like 20 cards to switch to a different deck depending on what I'm feeling
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>>59523880
Pult and Pult variants
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>>59523880
Pretty much every deck runs the same bunch of trainers. There's not much variance. The biggest difference you'll see is evo decks sometimes playing dawn
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People think crustle mirror is funny
Try being a former crustle player who had to play in said mirror...
Fuck that shit
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>>59523880
Slopbox/raging bolt/teratoucannon
Then in november you can also add Rayquaza to that list.
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>Had to donk some playmatless newbie at locals
Sorry kid but you had to learn this lesson sooner or later, it might as well be by my hand. Also you will probably tank my opp wr% which is rude.
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>>59524168
little bitch billy's are just a nuisance. the free win isn't worth them fucking with the scores of everyone else who actually matters. you're a ball and chain, timmy.
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I wish we had better Tool search, I think Clefairy decks could be a lot better than they are if you could more reliably play them as a single prize deck.
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there is no way Lucario is suddenly viable now
are you telling me i could've been playing this all this time
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I want to like Zoroark so much, but it's still just a combo deck at the end of the day. It needs so much to do what it needs to do and even after three Trades, sometimes you don't get the pieces you need when you need them.
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>>59524675
Maybe it's just me but I'm not feeling the Makuhita build.



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