Why did Palworld success, while the other bootleg Pokemon failed?
>>59518455Because other pokeclones both fanbase and developers just felt like they were going "Pokémon but better because it's not Game Freak" Meanwhile Palworld changes enough to feel like a whole new game while still having the creature capturing matter
>>59518455Because it’s fun, good graphics,better gameplay,good designs,good interaction with the monsters, and not a turd boring rpg like Pokemon and other monster collection games
I remember when kids said yokai watch was succeeding where others failed too. Be interesting to see what the retention rate is for palworld 2.
>>59518455the one on the right has tumble gender ocs, just like that shitty fangame xenoversei don't know what is the obsession americans-brazilians have with tumblr gender ocs
>>59518455>Why did Palworld successkys esl
>>59518485it's obviously not gonna survive in the era of pokemon mmoonce that multi region pokejapan mmo hits the stores, everyone will go apeshit mental an prove the jews right once again
>>59518490Anon, there's not going to BE a "pokémon MMO".'Least not in the vein you imagine, as no way in everliving hell are Game Freak going to touch a WoW-like game when the point of the whole thing is introduce the alphabbabs to Kanto et al, that they didn't exist for any of, until maybe LGPE and BDSP at a push. Japs call any game with online player interaction an MMO, please adjust your expectations and remember who the fuck's making it and for what section of humanity.
Palworld worked because it wasn't actually a Pokemon clone, something that requires effort to do correctly. It was an Ark clone, something lobotomized lemurs could figure out how to improve on.
Nothin' personnel, kid.
>>59518455A lot of pokemon fans has this fanatic obsession to become purist and treat any other monster collecting games like the third reich upon their favourite franchise. Palworld is different enough to gain their playerbase from non-pokemon players or ex-pokemon players.
>>59518544nah they failed because they were boring
because it has good marketable designs
>>59518455A few things. Many are frustrated what the current state of the Pokémon series which I kind of agree, the highest grossing franchise should be behaving more as such. Then Palworld comes out as a survival crafting game that just happens to have monster catching, many monsters that look like parts of Pokémon mashed together or slightly edited and incorporates many of the bad tropes from bad Pokémon parody animations. Then there's how this game is shilled to "le hecking teach Nintendo(they don't seem to know that Game Freak make the Pokémon main games, not Nintendo.) a LESSON!" when all it really teach them is they're not Pokémon's target audience anyway. And said shills try to gaslight you into thinking there's not a significant similarity of Pokémon to Palworld creatures. It's really being pushed by shills as the game for those who hate Pokémon. Then Nintendo makes the situation even worse with the lawsuit and specficially the tactics Nintendo uses in the lawsuit. There are some real fans of the game, but without all that nonsense going on it would not have been anywhere near as successful. Even then of course it's still nowhere near as successful as Pokémon.>>59518478>it’s funUnderstandable. Some like that kind of gameplay.>good graphicEh. Debatable.>better gameplayNo. That's a subjective matter. The Pokémon main games and Palworld aren't even the same genre.>good designsVery hit or miss. They also range from original to Pokémon slightly edited or parts of Pokémon mashed together.>and not a turd boring rpg like PokemonAnd there it is. You were never Pokémon's target audience. You don't know what's best for Pokémon.
>>59518567>the highest grossing kid's franchiseThe fact you cunts continue to ignore that little word continues to show how disingenuous you fuckers need to be to justify your bitching.For the biggest kid's franchise on the planet, it's behaving ads intended. The issue is overly attached manchildren online think are still mentally 7 and don't understand they don't make it for overgrown spastic children, but real actual ones with parents and guardians.
because others can't compete
>>59518573Pokémon is not just the highest grossing kids franchise, it's highest grossing media franchise overall.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_media_franchisesThe Pokémon franchise isn't just for kids either, it's more for a general audience which obviously would include kids even if kids may be their main focus. The quality of the main games really should be higher for the highest grossing media franchise, just not in some of the ways that most Palworld shills and general Nintendo/Pokémon detractors say. You've seen the issues with SV?
>>59518603But is primarily a kid's franchise. The biggest game series of theirs? Aimed at 7 year olds, The biggest comic? In a kid's magazine, The biggest TV presence they had? Aimed at pre-teen kids. it's outpacing everything, yes. But it's driven and designed around kids to the point they put out teeth brushing apps aimed at getting very young kids into habits, while imprinting their shit on them early. Can bleat all you fucking want at me, reality points to them deliberately not fucking aiming at you cunts and becoming kings of the word as a result (because kids buy more merch crap than adults of a fanbase, which is left to the hideously autistically addicted to bother with). Fucking handle it, if they wanted to give a shit about any you cunts, they wouldn't have played it as they had in your childhood and you wouldn't fucking be here bleating over it.
>>59518455Because why play a poke clone if you can just play a pokemon romhack?
>>59518579>it's pokemon but exclusively for coomerslol no wonder the player count keeps dropping
Palworld won
Cobblemon won
>>59518455>Digimon, Digital MonstersDigimon would be more popular if they stop turning every monster into human, it got even worse now...
>>59518455I don't even think Palworld is that great, but the difference is that its developers set out to make a game with creatures in it, not a protest vote against Game Freak. Virtually every other indie game in this subgenre has fallen into the same trap of slavishly cloning Pokemon's formula 1:1 and making a Pokemon game for jaded scorned Pokemon fans on the internet. Right off the bat, by doing that you are limiting your potential audience and making it impossible for your game to have an identity that stands on its own.When you look at the other IPs that have found a way to coexist with Pokemon in this scene - Megaten, Digimon, Yo-kai Watch, and now Palworld - the thing they all have in common is that they differ significantly from Pokemon in mechanics and (especially the first three) aesthetics. Basically, it's futile to try to do "Pokemon, but better." The autists already have Showdown and romhacks, the normalfags are satisfied with GF's slop as-is. You have to have an alternative vision to survive.
>>59518455It copied the good part (the designs) and not the shit part (the gameplay) while every other ripoff did the opposite
>>59518455palworld appeals to a wider public, specially people who are too afraid of being seen playing pokemon in public but still enjoy the overall concept.Remember the bayformer movies? Well, this is their bayformers, MATURE, GRITTY, SEXY AND ADULT.... based around cartoon characters they once liked when they were 10.
>>59518455People who like pal world don't like pokemon, so it appeals to non-pokemon players They hate the turn based combat, they hate the jrpg tropes and mechanics, they hate rpg parties, they hate the anime aesthetic, they hate that the main characters are kids, they hate dungeon crawlingThey just don't want a pokemon game
Palworld is the most fun I've had with a creature collector in a long time
>>59518455Palworld only copies monster design
>>59518455Having played both of these games, its because Luantale is an jrpg while Palworld is loser to an ark lone.
>>59518455>Why did Palworld successSpiritually Brazilian post.
>>59518541>three different pals inspired by kinoganiumgame recognizes game.
>>59518485I can't believe they are collabing with fucking Rent a Girlfriend a manga about a guy having cuck fantasies (that is still going mind you)
>>59518788This
>>59518455Palworld had good designs, meme gameplay and heavy marketing. Also the devs are nice, while Gamefreak loves to provoke the fanbase for free marketing
>>59518455It’s a stupid but fun game; while it borrows the creature aesthetics from Pokémon, it incorporates elements from other genres—such as survival, base building, mining, monster hunting, and basic shooting mechanics. Is it a *good* game? NO!, but it delivers on its promise—much like fast food: it’s not a gourmet experience, but it fills your stomach quickly and cheaply.In contrast, other games simply copied the Pokémon gameplay loop almost one-to-one. And if you have to choose between the original and a bootleg, people are going to prefer the original.
>>59519018Tell me more....
>>59518455Because despite the cry of tendies, Palworld is not a Pokemon bootleg.It's a survival crafter with some monster collecting and training woven into the gameplay loop. It's closer to ARK than anything.
>>59518455>All these replies >Nobody is just saying it's pokemon but open world>Some people unironically saying the game looks good and the gameplay is funSometimes I feel like I'm the only smart poster on this stupid website ,
>>59519201>Nobody is just saying it's pokemon but open worldBecause it isn't. It's in a completely different genre with different core mechanics, which is why it's successful.
>>59519201dunning-kruger effect at work right here
the game is fun.
>>59518455I'm not sure success is measured in one successful game. Palworld will need to prove its staying power. There were a lot of successful competitors to Pokémon in the day but they weren't able to outlast it.
palniggers still tongue my anus
>>59519201We're all retarded faggots here anon, thanks for proving it.
>>59518455Mainly because Nintendo went full swing against a nobody.Imagine this: what would've happened if people saw Palworld, not give it much importance, and yet let it be? It would've flopped or just exist in the void like Craftopia.Who would care? Nobody would care, everybody would live normally. Sure, it takes heavily from Pokémon, but what korean gacha scam doesn't do this already? Those games exists and no one cares.But here is the main issue: retards cared, fanboys cared, and Nintendo lawyers cared. They went full "LEAVE THE MULTIBILLION COMPANY ALONE" corpo speak, giving Pocket Pair FREE NOTORIETY.Then, people went to dig deeper. Palworld's story is literally Game Freak's story from decades ago (bunch of guys try to get into game dev, a title here and there, their animation modelist is a dude from a local kombiny getting minimum wage plus commision money, etc.)And next we go with the game itself: for an early access, it was serviceable. It worked, good quantity of content was available, and you could play it on your PC for 30 bucks. Playable, accesible, and relatively cheap.What happened next? "Hey kid, your game is notorious everywhere. Can we get a piece of the cake?". Boom, contracts with Xbox and Sony.Palworld got a foothold in modern gaming, while Nintendo was screeching because "how dare these boys release their own monster taming game when I am the only one allowed to do that!". It didn't help trying to pull a Dysney, and basically own the entire Monster Taming genre.This massive PR made gamers curious, and before you know it: 15000000 players, record time.Pocket Pair made literally money for nothing, all they had to do was sacrifice the bird hand-glide, and the gachapon capsule release. Those can be added back with mods, thanks PC gamers.Meanwhile, what did Nintendo achieved? Nothing. 30 thousand bucks to recover from their MILLIONS-COST investigation.Reap what you sow, Nintendo. Reap what you sow.
>>59519477reminder. Pokemon biggest dread on Palworld isn't the gameplay, quality. It's the monster design that Palworld designed that caused Pokemon's corporate crusade.and it's not the anthromorphic furry female lite designs that Pokemon screeching on. It's the cute, small, mascot-like designs.it's not the Katress, Sekhmet, Dupin, Majex that Pokemon fear. It's the design like Chillet, Lamball, Cattiva, Depresso, Flopie, Daedreame that Pokemon fear. Many fans are enraged over Chillet because they think Palworld pre-emptively stole Pokemon design of future evolution of Furret.
Palworld Won
>>59518788I had to stop playing, most sessions I'd sit and play for way too long and be fucked the next day
>>59519530I wish to follow this development.
>>59519530Marnie but sexy and interesting
>>59519530All four including video related better be romanceable in More than Just Pals
Any mods that ported Pokemon over to Palworld?
>>59519519>Pokemon biggest dread on Palworld isn't the gameplay, quality. It's the monster design that Palworld designed that caused Pokemon's corporate Someone explain to me like I’m five. Any reason what Nintendo couldn’t have used Palworld’s DESIGNS, it’s literally the only thing about Palworld’s that anything like Pokemon. Seems like Nintendo shot themselves in the foot by trying to own mounts than the obvious shit like copy-pasting Cinderace> . Many fans are enraged over Chillet because they think Palworld pre-emptively stole Pokemon design of future evolution of FurretHilarious considering the overwhelming majority of pokefags never a shit about Furret
>>59519530They all take Pal dick
>>59519477>Imagine this: what would've happened if people saw Palworld, not give it much importance, and yet let it be? It would've flopped or just exist in the void like Craftopia....I mean, of course it'd flop if people didn't give it much importance. But it was already rising rapidly, Nintendo's fuckery just boosted the signal even further.
>>59518455Do Lumentale or Cassette Beasts even have a fraction of the moveset, ability, field effect variety of Pokèmon? Or do they accidentally simplify it because they don't implement fun moves like Knock Off, Encore, Fake Out?Do they even have random side activities to flood the world with like post Gen 3 games?
>>59518608>But is primarily a kid's franchise.Same old tired argument. Plenty of media aimed at children over the years have been of high quality on their own merits.Look at something like OG Lilo &Stitch. Definitely aimed at children but still enjoyable for the adults watching as well. Many such cases exist.You undoubtedly have seen this rancid take of yours dismantled before , so why remain willfully ignorant?
>>59519744Yeah, look at the series - mid slop generated to keep the interest (and sales of toys) high.That's the fucking problem - individual efforts, produced by professionals, ARE usually high quality. But then they turn into shite regurgitated endlessly to keep toy sales going (Toy Story, older than pokémon, not as fucking successful). But Game Freak started off as amateurs with a passion for just making shit who hit on a compelling idea and coupled it with a granite character design ethos. Their success hampered Nintendo handheld production until arguably the Switch, as first they delayed introduction of the GBA to keep Game Boy sales going alongside Pokémon (a handheld SNES in '98 would have been fucking class, in '01, it was a bit pointless), then developed the new handhelds to be on the lower end of cost, to maximise the outright profit they'd make on the system sales alongside Pokémon (going as far as using obsolete chipsets they had in inventory for the 3DS, rather than buying newer chips). Took a lock of studios lots of actual chronological years to "get" 3D, Game Freak started 15-20 years later than they but also have an audience not slavishly married to 4K 120FPS Smart Telly Display games, so whatever they do produce is ample for they. You'd best just learn to accept this is a kid's game and kids just don't see or get upset over the shit that triggers you in the kid's games you play.
>>59519580>Any mods that ported Pokemon over to Palworld?Plagworld is basically Pokémon assets meshed together. There's no need.
>>59518455>while the other bootleg Pokemon failedYou mean the one that got away with it?
>>59519573Make her eat the dango
>>59518455>Why did Palworld successthe locus of this 'success' happening to be exclusively in China is very strange for a "Japanese" game, if I shall say so myself.
