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Summer Seasonal Edition

Pokémon Champions is a free to play online battle simulator available on Switch and mobile. It features ranked, casual and private battles for both singles and doubles, and will be used for VGC tournaments in 2026.

>News
Enter HAJ1MAR1G1FT for a free 100 Quick Coupons and CHAMP10N for a free Machamp.
The Monthly Challenge series is currently live.

>Resources and useful links
Community Tournaments usage data: https://pikalytics.com/
Ladder usage data: https://pokechamdb.com/en

New Player Guide(NEW PEOPLE READ THIS):
https://rentry.org/pcg-guide (now taking suggestions and feedback)
Anon made guide for brand new players to make a viable team with the starting pokemon: https://teamsheet.gg/t/sample-beginner-reg-b-vl3698

Quick FAQ
>Do I need my own Pokémon to play?
No, the game features a recruitment system, but transferring from Home is recommended to save time and resources.
>What makes the game so much more accessible than before?
All aspects of a Pokémon are customizable with VP, a currency earned simply by playing the game. IVs are also removed.
Ask in the thread if you want any specific Pokémon, and someone will respond.
>Is there single player content?
No.
>Do I need a Nintendo Online subscription?
No.
>What's the starter pack?
US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 Teammate Tickets (recruit Pokemon without using VP), 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music. Only available on Switch for now.
>Is anything locked behind a paywall?
So far everything gameplay relevant is also purchasable with VP. Only E-Floette require ZA transfer.

>/pcg/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread):
https://pastebin.com/d2FJZdPh

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got three shiny camerupt i caught in ZA to give out to any trick room bros who want one
just reply with a GTS listing
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^what a cool guy
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Anyone a bit panicking now that bank is dying off?
Im scrambling to fix back my 3ds so i can snag my mons off it before it becomes permanently stuck
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>>59522090
Panicking as in this is my last chance to get the Colosseum ribbons, then yeah. Panicking as anything a reasonable human would do, no.
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>>59522090
luckily I did all my transfers last year
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Dead Game
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>>59522115
sorry I really need to EV train this Salamence and Regice in gen 3, I can bump up the player numbers later :(
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>opponent uses prankster sunny day before his basculegion uses wave crash
>next opponent's oranguru uses trick to trade its choice scarf with rotom's metronome before using trick room so rotom is now choice locked and goes last

what were they cooking
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>>59522156
Rank?
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>>59522165
casuals
so like lower IQ than usual but if it was a troll team I don't even know what the joke was or what it was supposed to accomplish
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>>59522156
sorry I meant the rotom used trick and the oranguru used trick room

maybe the joke is just using every move with the word trick in it
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How do you make Mega Chandelure work? Feels like Mega Zard Y and Houndoom is better but I like the Chandelier
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I ran into some shit luck tonight, like damn.
I think it's the end for Minimize Sandaconda on my team. I brought it only once tonight. I had max evasion in front of a M-Gyarados and got hit - first attempt - by Power Whip of all things... (base 85% acc.)
I had an opponent's Slowbro activate Quick Claw three times in a row, I had Scale Shot and Rock Blast only hit twice waaay too many times, not to mention some extremely lucky crits.
I had some luck myself of course (M-Garchomp survived a M-Delphox's Psychic on 1% health for game, my Krook dodged a Blizzard from Dragonite, etc) but it seemed stacked against me tonight.
I might keep using Sandaconda but I will probably return to the Glare set that seemed quite a bit more useful.
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>>59522207
>evasion snake
you deserve far worse than some rng not in your favor, faggot. also consider not relying on stupid rng moves like scale shit if you're going to cry
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>>59522199
My buddy is UB3 and uses him in the back with Whimsicott and Scizor to lure Fire moves, swap him in for the Flash Fire boost and go to town in Tailwind with all coverage moves. Need Sunny Day on Scott to turn off opposing weathers
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>start day at top 100,000
>climb to 50,000
>drop back to 100,000 in the same session


Fuck this fucking bullshit faggot game. And whoever released a YouTube video with Final Gambit Staraptor should be killed. Sucks fucking shit
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>>59522199
the hard truth is chandelure with an item is usually just better than the mega, there's not much it kills that regular chandy can't already and the extra bulk doesn't mean that much

if you're determined to force it then tsareena is a good partner to ward off gambit sucker punch spam and threaten water/ground/rock types (particularly le respect fish)
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did cofagrigus really need to lose pain split? it's not even that good
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>>59522263
There's a lot of move changes in Champions like that. On the surface the most obvious explanation would be a nerf, but the target Pokemon isn't even that good.
Krookodile losing Sucker Punch for example.
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im so fucking sick of staraptor every single game holy fuck. and there is no fool proof way to stop it thanks to the faggot whim's tailwind and protect mind games. never getting to MB without dedicating at least two fucking slots to this dumb nigger. done.
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Brand new player here. Is pokeball rank just bots? Genuinely feels like I'm wasting my time trying to predict switches and coverage. It even cost me my 2nd ranked match.
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>>59522290
I never worry about fagbird cuz my two Megas are Raichu Y and Froslass and they both shit on him instantly
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>>59522301
Predicts aren’t even useful until you’re in Ultra Ball, just hammer the obvious move til you’re past the shitters

Also there’s basically zero difference between ranked and casual, you might as well just stay in ranked forever
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>>59522277
Rampardos losing Rock Polish comes to mind.
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>>59522357
only one can mega. so how do you beat it when whim uses tailwind? you need to double target it or run a dedicated pokemon to use follow me or some shit. it's ridiculous how much needs to be dedicated to stopping this faggot
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>>59522392
froslass doesn't really mind tailwind just going up anyway, starraptor doesn't usually carry anything that can kill it before blizzard comes out to btfo it
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>>59522392
I also hate the turdbird and he's gay lover, but please don't give up. If I can make it to MB then anyone can.
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>>59522290
gholdengo
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>>59522412
9 of my last 10 games have been this bird. no point making a team to beat it for rng to just give me teams without it immediately after. maybe the game will be playable tomorrow
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>enemy whimsicott just so happens to have sunny day when I'm playing my dry skin toxicroak lead
>the incineroar next to him has both taunt and earthquake

Alright, I know for a certainty now this game has eomm. Fuck these cucks at gamefreak
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>>59522277
>>59522263
Dont worry guys at least le heroic Japanese koi fish got Last Respects AND Aqua Jet AND Flip Turn, please enjoy le hero fish of le land of le rising sun
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>>59522448
would you rather the literal golden calf made by jews be the poster child of competitive?
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I hate the matchmaking in this game, I hate whatever bullshit algorithm it uses. GameFuck is so goddamn incompetent I have no trust or faith in anything about this horseshit game
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what are some mega kangaskhan teams? I was thinking of pairing it with sneasler or something faster than her with coaching as a lead
does helping hand boost the second hit from parental bond?
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>>59522448
its a salmon
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Hoshino you cuck faggot, I just want to get to MB3 but your game sucks
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this game is fucking exhausting and i think people would mellow out a little if they had some little fucking outfits to play with already
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>>59522640
customization is ass but I think that people are more getting bored of having the same roster for three seasons in a row especially when the pool is this small
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>>59522640
This game is four menus and a battle screen, the game wouldn’t be nearly as frustrating if they had basic shit every competitive game has - more menus with ability details and interactions, a menu that shows your last ten or so battles.


Even Hoshino is like “what YouTube to get better IDK” which is fucking crazy he has no idea of game design to say that without realizing it’s a massive flaw with the game.

It’s a beta package that they squeezed out of their ass and calling it a win.
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Rank is just Traumatizing
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>>59522875
I think the game needs an in game library type thing like Pokemon Stadium 2 where you can browse all the Pokemon and see a visual representation of their base stats, movelist, and abilities but Pokemon isn’t something that can be overly tutorialized because a lot of what being good at it is is knowing what’s good and that changes between seasons.
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>>59522951
I think this is perfect, along with resources on all the mega abilities etc.

I also think the speed calculator should be in the game, maybe it’s too much information but there should be much more emphasis on planning builds using scenarios.
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How does my maid waifu's Pokemon fare in Champions?
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Explain to me the Coaching Meme to help Mega Floette. How do I incorporate it to work with Mega Garde?
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GameFreak needs to explain the matchmaking, fucking rage inducing bullshit.

That faggot using Zoroark round in MB4 can drop dead
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I'm about to start champions and I would like to ask a couple questions about the various accounts required to play it
I made a Nintendo account last night because everything I read said to link that, but I also heard about a pokemon trainer central account that I have not made yet
how important is the pokemon trainer central account?
and if I start champions without making one, can I link the pokemon trainer central account later once I've made it?
I'm asking the second question because according to what I've read online, if you don't link a Nintendo account(the one I made) when first setting the game up, it is impossible to link it later
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>>59522975
When the turn is flip
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>>59522207
Damn nigga are you playing in great ball?
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>>59523175
Just make the Nintendo account. I never heard of this whatever other account.
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Next time I make it to master ball 2 I'm leaving it there until the season ends
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>>59523262
If you can't maintain it you never actually earned it
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>>59523272
Oh please as if you aren't constantly crying about the unbalanced Pokémon and matchmaking
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Why does MB3 feel like a gatekeeping exercise? Every time I get close to top 50K I get some YouTube faggot that then initiates a forced losing streak.

What is the EEMM matchingmaking people have referred to? It feels like when you create a new team, after about 5 battles you get forced into complete counter matches or some bullshit. Feels like artificial garbage.
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I got to the top 10k for a little while a season or two ago, then I fell back to top 100k :D
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game is saved
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>>59523337
I was on the cusp of mb2 last week and then immediately fucked myself back into like 140,000 by playing an experimental team
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I only got to mmb3 because I don't play very often. And the team I've been using is kind of ass.
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>>59523325
Cuz MB3 is a mix of good/ok people piloting good teams and good people experimenting and people become less flowcharty in general so it's unpredictable
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if EOMM in this game is real then where are the half of players that should be noticing their artificially easy matchups against the people being countered
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>>59523402
>Lead farigaraf and Torkoal
>Opponent leads Aerodactyl Farigaraf
>Double protect because "fuck it's over"
>He trick rooms predicting my trick room
>Helping hand weather ball into his Farig

That's me, the guy being fed etards
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>the mb4 players I'm playing against are actually worse than the ub1 players

What the hell
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>>59522640
Yeah its really lacking in that regard, i guess since its the main game for vgc they’re putting all their energy into the battles?
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Such. Fucking. Bullshit. Matchmaking.

Let me send hate mail after battles, fuck these faggots
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Made a new team for doubles (currently masterball tier) and it's pretty much just whatever as I'm trying to slowly amend it until it works but I'm getting a win streak here. Is it just luck or does this team actually work somehow?
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>>59523550
Ok, I can see this team working. But I have some issues with it.
Samurott is fine, honestly underrated mon right now.
Gholdengo could use Leftovers or a berry, focus on bulk so you can get a Nasty Plot going.
Ninetales is far too frail to use Nasty Plot, I'd give it a Sash and Protect instead.
Blastoise could have Fake Out and 3 moves, then you have either Tailwind or Trick Room setup. If you want Shell Smash you need Protect.
Sinistcha is good but really needs Rage Powder instead of Imprison.
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>>59522156
Fuck scale shot
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Was on a winning streak and now just keep losing. What am I doing wrong here
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>>59523530
Kill yourself
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>>59523576
>What am I doing wrong here
playing the game lmao
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>>59523565
Any pokemon you would recommend switching out with another? For the time being, ninetales exist to bait weather teams into switching pelipper in on the next turn to screw me over trying to use veil while switching to rain but I ended up using nasty plot during the switch. It's been surprisingly consistent.
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should i play this
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>>59523648
yeah, also buy the season pass and premium
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>the team that Wolfe and co cooked up for NAIC is still considered the favourite to win worlds
Is Wolfe really that far ahead of the meta?
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>>59523625
I'm honestly not that good at the game, but I think it's a pretty solid built. You have a Water/Fire/Grass trio, and you can work with both trick room or Tailwind, depending on the matchup. Ninetails is fine too, the only other weather setter I'd consider here is Ttar, but the typing is redundant with Samurott.
I also think Sinistcha could be Matcha/Trick Room/Protect/another move. You have way too much coverage for Ghost and Psychic types, Shadow Ball is a little unexpected but doesn't cover any matchup.
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>focus sash
>magic bounce prevents taunt or encore
is doubling into hatterene the only way to prevent trick room?
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>fraig hatt lead makes it look like a forced trick room
>hatt is actually the TR attacker and protects
mother fucker
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maybe having my taunt mon be my fighting type is a bad idea now that I think about it

farig, clefable, whims, grimm, and pelipper hit it for super effective and sinistcha threatens burn
I guess that still better than them setting up or redirecting but still kinda scary
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I added golurk to my ghost team over cofagrigus who I realized was kind of a bum and not getting brought much

patched the phox and ychu matchups excellently, should have listened earlier
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>>59523715
Parting shot it for a laugh
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>>59523728
>Lead Charizard Y+Garchomp
>click earthquake and heatwave
Grats you shut down 99% of TR setups
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>>59523715
I lead Mega Garde and SNEEDler so I can bait the protect on the Hat and just Calm Mind and Coaching on Gardevoir.
Next turn I SHOULD hit them so hard it doesn't matter.
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>>59523576
using metaslop
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>>59522290
Use ninetales alola and spam blizzard on whim and raptor
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1675 and below = meme teams
1675-1900 = trick room and metaslop
1900+ meme teams
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>>59523416
They're worse than poke ball players desu, start of the season on the road to MB you get the tryhards, still if your team is consistent you should make MB every season with barely any sweat and gametime played, i snuck in this season with a lucky para in the last game which swung the momentum in my favor against my teams worst matchup (mega venusaur behind screens) but it probably would've just taken 3 matches tops to make MB had i not got lucky
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>accidentally bring my singles team with no protect to doubles with around 1940 elo
>cuss myself
>swords dance chomp rapes their team anyway
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>>59523576
>CharY
>RainSun
>Garchomp instead of Archaludon
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I just got mence for an audino on home. Im ready for mence mayhem september vros
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>decide to grab MB real quick in singles
>mega venusaur with knock off synthesis leech seed and whatever else every game
>corviknight roosting and iron defensing every game
>mega floette in the back on all teams

So you just have to be the biggest faggot in existence to care about singles right? Like you have to be the dude no one wants to hang out with in the friend group. Like you've never been in a 1 on 1 hang session with anyone in your friend group ever to be a Singles player, you're always the 3rd+ group hang guy
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finally got an incineroar
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>>59524167
hope you didnt waste too much vp, they are giving him in a few days
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>>59524169
of course they are lol
yeah im like spent oh well
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>stealthily bring back pursuit
>ttar and weavile can't learn it
At least mega absol has the niche of being the only dark type that learns it which could be useful in singles i guess and vs mons which it's teammate or itself threatens in doubles
https://pokechamps.com/moves/pursuit/
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Can I hire someone from fiverr to play for me until they reach champions?
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>>59522090
Not really.
I don't really get the hubbub.
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>>59522553
The only kang set people have been running is the 2 move fake out/last resort meme
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>>59523576
Pelipper doesn't really do anything on this team. At best its a slow tailwind setter. You have wide guard on it for leading with charizard for rock slide I guess? But it feels so strange.
Trick room also feels kinda weird since you don't really have any particularly slow pokemon?
I feel like you either need to focus better or have more dedicated partners. Pelipper and Farigiraf feel really partnerless here.
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>>59524219
A lot of these learn knock off already. Absol is one of the few dark types that also learns knock off and it's still not enough to save it. You have to choose between pursuit, sucker punch and knock off for all these.
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>>59524155
BSS are a complete and total coinflip, literally nophono only gamemode, I don't like smogon shit either very much because they take so long but id rather have that 6v6 nonsense over the gambling.
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I just did a recruitment and got a ton of pokemon I want and can't decide which one to pick
I also am new to competitive pokemon and don't know what I'm doing
is there some way to pick more than 1?
if not, please pick for me
>Kingambit
I already have one, but I gave it defiant
a second would let me use it's other ability without spending vp to swap between builds
>Galarian Slowking
it has toxic spikes, disable, and the regenerator ability
all of those are nice
>Skarmory(the sleepy)
I saw some gen 3 pokemon showdown videos and it seems like the best option in that gen for setting up spikes
I don't know how good it is nowadays though
has a title and looks reflective too
>Glaceon
it has both baton pass and roar
I would really like a baton pass pokemon, and it is right in front of me
>Salazzle
I heard it was meta in gen 7
even if it isn't meta here, it has corrosion and fake out
>Venusaur
seems meta, and I should probably be stockpiling meta mons as a beginner
>Feraligatr, Gourgeist, Tauros(aqua), and Umbreon
I don't care about these, but I think Gourgeist was used at some point in history so I'll list them just in case
pic related is the reflective Skarmory
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>>59524465
Glaceon and Galarian Slowking are great together honestly. G Slowking is used for trick room and/or chilly reception to set snow.
Venusaur is good in sun due to chloro plus sleep powder spam, and you can use it as a secondary mega.
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>>59524465
>a second would let me use it's other ability without spending vp to swap between builds
Don't do this. You're very quickly going to run out of space for other mons.
Hazard stacking just isn't a thing in either doubles or 3v3 singles. G-Slowking is good as a Trick Room setter, though. Glaceon is decent as a supplemental attacker on teams that already use snow for Aurora Veil, but it's not super useful outside of that.
Taurous Aqua is a good alternative Basculegion, filling in a similar role as a strong Water type with priority, but is also a decent check for offensive threats with Intimidate and doesn't fear Gambit.
Venusaur is good on teams that use Charizard-Y as it can Sleep Powder threats, and Mega-Venu is a solid enough glue-mega. Most of the other mons you mentioned either aren't great or fulfill very specfic niches you don't really need to focus on right now.
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>>59524465
Kingambit and Venusaur are the strongest choices, as proven by being meta

G-Slowking isn’t terrible, Feraligatr and Umbreon are okay, the rest are trash unless you wanna be the first guy to solve Mega Skarmory
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>>59524465
I found out sleepy is a low tier title.
>sociable
Lowest tier title basically a great ball
>early riser
>peckish
>dozy
>sleepy
All common and time of day dependent. Dozy is only at 7 PM.
>recluse
More like an ultra ball.
Everything else is like a more rare ball.
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>>59524478
is there some way to grab them all?
I can't use Glaceon and Slowking together if I can't grab them both
>>59524479
>>59524482
>>59524494
if I can only pick one, then I'll go with Slowking since I don't have any mons that work with Venusaur
thank you
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>>59524494
Cloudwatcher is more like an ultra ball given how many areas are perma-cloudy. Recluse is closer to a dive or luxury. It's pretty nice but I'd prefer literally any other personality mark.
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>>59524494
Recluse is the rarest mark by many degrees
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>>59524516
It's more common than the random ones like radiant and giddy
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are HP stats better than def/sp.def stats for making them more tanky?
almost every pokemon I recruit is trained in HP when a second stat isn't obvious to train
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>Meowscarada everywhere in singles
>ok fuck it. i have a funny trap set for that stupid bitch cat
>no match ups with Meowscarada
rigged game.
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>>59524600
same with me
>fuck staraptor
>all my homies hate staraptor
>aight ill tailor my whole team to fight against the bird
>0 birds
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by the way, why is there a second champions general? This one has been a thing since inception, why the fuck does that one exist?
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>>59524626
OP there probably just didn't check the catalog.
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Imagine Life Orb Kingambit on the field next to Yveltal. Maybe in a year you won't have to imagine.
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I have a fully built Tsareena that I don't need anymore (I got one with my own TID), anyone want it?
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>>59524759
Ball and is she Shiny?
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>>59524571
I’ve heard it as HP is the most important bulk stat, followed by if you want more Def or Sp Def. So balance them out based on what you want to survive. Then factor in the nature you want
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Jap players have no honor at all. Timer stalling fucks. He still has a chance at winning and he's still pulling this shit.
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Mdbbros, if he wins it this time, will he statusmaxed enough to ascend?
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>>59524774
Ultra and no
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>>59524800
Its also possible his internet just sucks, anon.
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>>59524510
If you have Home, just up something on GTS and you could ask for something here. At least one anon has a spare glaceon.
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>>59524155
Anon no one here as real friends
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>>59524880
Not if he does it every turn once he starts losing
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Stall Mega Venusaur is probably the most cancerous BSS mon there is
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>>59524155
Just run Primarina, Meowscarada, Delphox and Garchomp. I got MB in singles during my first day playing Champions
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>tilt all the way down from high 1700 to 1400
>get hit the most absurd comps I've seen in all of Pokemon
>Endeavor Farig
>Choice Scarf Bell
I want out, man.
I barely gor to 1600 and this shit doesn't stop
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>>59524944
dude if you get a loss just turn the game off and come back later, do not continue to play while tilted
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I’m so bored with this game can they announce something about MC
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>>59525124
no announcement about anything until worlds closing ceremony, and itll just be confirming 2 or 3 mega abilities
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>>59524482
How is Spikes / Whirlwind / Roost Skarmory these days? I know 6v6 is better for it than 3v3, but it should still be doing fine, right?
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>>59525156
They still do that shit with Hippowdon so probably fine.
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>>59524887
even then
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>>59525165
I run into Yawn way way more than Roar
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How should someone approach doubles team building? Build around the Megas? How do you plan out what supports and what you want them to do?

Like how should I build around having Mega Vensaur
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>>59525254
think about what threatens your mega - in this case it would be strong/fast psychic and flying types
in particular, you'll have trouble with starraptor, delphox, and metagross teams

so the next step is finding something that counters those weaknesses, probably a strong dark or ghost type

then you find something else that counters whatever weaknesses left after that, and so on until you have as few as possible

also, do support pokemon like whimsicott/grimmisnarl/sableye/klefki/etc LAST, since they're so flexible they can do almost anything, but you won't know what they need to do until you make the rest of the team



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