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>they should make a special version of Burn!
>they should make a special version of Intimidate!
>they should give Electric more physical moves!
>they should give Fairy more physical moves!
>they should give Fighting more special moves!
>they should give Rock more special moves
>the games without the physical/special split are unplayable!
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>>59532466
This but unironically. Thank god for the split
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>>59532469
The split accomplished nothing except jumpstart powercreep. Though that’s less about the split itself and entirely due to game freak being retards
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>>59532466
Doubleslap should be Fairy type
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what they actually should do instead of adding special versions of status/abilities is fix confusion damage
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>>59532466
>>they should make a special version of Burn!
I guess?
>>they should make a special version of Intimidate!
Yes.
>>they should give Electric more physical moves!
Yes. And they can't be like Volt Tackle.
>>they should give Fairy more physical moves!
Yes. Play Rough is cool, but we need more.
>>they should give Fighting more special moves!
Yes.
>>they should give Rock more special moves
Yes.
>>the games without the physical/special split are unplayable!
Yes.
Also, we need a Special version of Moxie
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>>59532466
>they should make a special version of Burn!
That was Frostbite in Legends: Arceus. They should bring that back since Freeze is just a worse version of Sleep as it is now, but replace the Burn damage with something like lowering evasion each turn.
>they should make a special version of Intimidate!
They should make a special version of Huge Power first.
>they should give Electric more physical moves!
I wouldn’t mind it, but we currently have a good amount right now. They just need to be more widespread.
>they should give Fairy more physical moves!
I wouldn’t mind, but there’s only a few I can think of that would really work.
>they should give Fighting more special moves!
Only if we get more Aura-based moves.
>they should give Rock more special moves
That’s kind of hard to do, and I can see why it hasn’t been done yet.
>the games without the physical/special split are unplayable!
I see your point in this argument being annoying and stupid. Doesn’t justify making fun of the other points though.
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>>59532466
Yeah? Just check out champions if you need a reason to combat special slop
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>>59532574
>Just check out [game where 4 physical attackers are the most used pokemon in the game] if you need a reason to nerf special attackers
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>>59532559
>they should give Rock more special moves
>That’s kind of hard to do, and I can see why it hasn’t been done yet.
If this was Palworld then Rock would actually be good.
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>>59532466
No split is fine if they also remove stab
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>>59532508
It should also be renamed 'bitch-slap'
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>>59532466
The special attack ability and status are not such bad ideas
However turning rock and fighting type which are mostly physical based into a mess with special stuff and then in turn do the same to fairy type and electric type is, indeed, bad
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>>59532886
fighting type "pimpslap" variant as well
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>>59532898
>However turning rock and fighting type which are mostly physical based into a mess with special stuff and then in turn do the same to fairy type and electric type is, indeed, bad
So some Pokemon are supposed to just go fuck themselves and die then?

Call me a Marxist but how is it fair that some Pokemon get to have a multitude of STABs that complement their higher attacking stat while others are left with a paltry amount that suit their higher attacking stat? May Sceptile NEVER have its stats unfucked.
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>>59532922
Type based STAB is a retarded concept in general. It rewards dual types a lot more and is the reason PSS was needed in the first place (Ghost and Dark should have switched categories still).
Pokemon should balance around move exclusivity a lot harder. It's why Ice suddenly is a bad type when every water type learns Ice Beam. Make STAB work for a pokemon's Level-Up learnset (so excluding TM/HM/Tutors etc) instead of type and balance accordingly.
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>>59532936
>Make STAB work for a pokemon's Level-Up learnset (so excluding TM/HM/Tutors etc)
This is a suggestion that would, once again, fuck over weaker Pokemon and do nothing for strong Pokemon.

Interesting how balancing suggestions intended to aid weaker Pokemon would do the opposite instead.
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>>59532936
Plenty of RPGs have STAB or something similar and it makes sense that a Pokémon of an element would be better at harnessing that element. The problem is Pokémon’s type multiplier is way too much compared to other RPGs (for refence Cassette beast STAB is only like 1.3x ) AND like you said it fucks over monotypes.
At the very least dual types should have weaker STAB to balance out having two.
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>>59532958
>At the very least dual types should have weaker STAB to balance out having two.
This would punish weaker dual type Pokemon like Dewgong and Aurorus for just existing while being an inconvenience for Baxcalibur and Ice Rider Calyrex.
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>>59532466
Top one is only that isn't insta agree of suggestions, just cause it strictly shouldn't be burn. And the split was good idea mate stop making threads to hate on it and say suggestions to improve it more are somehow bad.
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>>59532993
>And the split was good idea mate stop making threads to hate on it and say suggestions to improve it more are somehow bad.
The threads about it is a sharty psyop btw.
(or just Kojo being an unemployed faggot)
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>>59532993
>And the split was good idea
no it wasn’t
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>>59532972
Dewgong and Aurorus can get some othe buff to compensate. The former has tre KANTOOOOOO pass so there is a chance in hell it could get a broken super saiyan from. Aurorus can get a signature version of Snow Warning called Hail Veil that comes with some extra benefits.

Though realistically none of that would happen Game Freak is too busy gooning to little girls, shilling CHARIZARD, and sending money to Israeli to ever do that. So I guess Dewgong and Aurorus will just have to eat shit outside of fan games.
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>>59533021
would be cool if dewgong got something but we all know damn well whenever that time comes itll be lapras getting an upgrade instead
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>>59532466
>>59532542
where is the physical assault vest? don't say indimidate you know that isn't the same fuck off.
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>Why isn't Bank/Home available at launch of the new game? Why are they so technically incompetent everytime, I just want to dump in my living dex to avoid playing the game.
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>>59532958
Nah, I don’t want this because it would benefit defensive play more often than not which is gay as fuck. Make the STAB boost for single-types higher.
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>>59533013
Crazy cope from a kid who likely never played when before split ever happened.
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>>59533162
i cant think of much of anything wrong with it aside from special powerhouses like zam/gengar losing the elemental punches with the caveat being hitmonchan can use them and not suck, or sceptile just getting completely screwed
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>>59533190
Flamethrower/Bolt/Beam have all been TMs since Gen 2, just give them to all the magic-themed Pokemon instead of the elemental punches
Actually, is there any Pokemon besides Mew/Smeargle that can learn all three?
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>>59533769
i guess that works if you reduce the power to 75? just adds alot of bloat but who cares way worse shit happens in this franchise. as for your question i was damn sure weezing did until right now. couldve sworn i was running ice beam on that thing the other day playing a rom of yellow
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>>59533769
>Actually, is there any Pokemon besides Mew/Smeargle that can learn all three?
Aurorus being able to learn Flamethrower (and Fire Blast) would be a funny reference to solar flares.
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>>59533162
>Crazy cope from [PROJECTION]
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>>59532466
they should, but make those statuses, abilities, and moves exclusive or near exclusive to one mon. it would absolutely suck and be boring if special intimidate was widespread, but if it was given to an otherwise lackluster pokemon, then that makes it pretty interesting. imo, this is what they should have done post split. instead of distributing waterfall to everyone and their mother, give it to seaking and maybe 2 other fish and have it be pretty much the only physical water type move. now seaking has the niche of being the only way you can use your attack stat for that type.
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They should give Pokemon 5 move slots and a bank of 8 that can be switched on our out after learning
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>>59534566
4 moves is plenty but the idea of switching moves out whenever you want is pretty cool especially the actual level up moves, maybe not TM moves but those are reusable now anyway. does seem dumb you need to go to a guy to relearn something your whole species can do naturally. doesnt even need to be some big lore behind it just some dumbass text prompt before a battle you can switch on or off in the menu. "do you want to change your pokemons moves?"
>Yes
>No
bam done million dollar idea gamefreak hire /VP/ we're genius gooner psychos
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>>59532508
It should be fused with Wake-Up Slap.
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>>59532508
you mean Drain Punch
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>>59534687
fine but only if they do that sissy overhand punch in the animation
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>>59532936
Dark was special because it was the "surprise" or "fear" factor that does the damage on Psychics and Ghosts. That is why they were also low in basepower, and interact with Psychic's high SpDef thus not completely dethroning the Psychic type's status. (unlike Fairy)

Ghost was physical because it was not supposed to have any notable moves of its own apart from "curtain-like" moves like Lick. Note their low Attack stats.
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>>59534722
YOU MEAN IT WASNT REALLY A PLAY ON FEARS LIKE GHOSTS AND BUGS AND DARKNESSSSSSSSS?
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>>59534722
So biting doesn't hurt you physically, it only hurts because you're afraid of getting bitten.
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>>59534722
>Dark was special because it was the "surprise" or "fear" factor that does the damage on Psychics and Ghosts
Bug wasn't physical with a similar theme
>Ghost was physical because it was not supposed to have any notable moves
By the same gen than Dark was introduced there was Shadow Ball. Also if Lick is justifiably physical then what about Bite etc.

All that to say, GF is kind of retarded and should have just made Dark physical. It's a dirty fighting style (Throat Chop, Beat Up etc) that does physical damage unpredictably.
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I think the actual issue is that for some reason retards keep conflating “special” with “doesn’t make contact”
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>>59535034
That too. I don't see for example why the punch part of fire punch gets "priority" over still being hit with a burning thing.
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>>59534939
>>59535010
I am not saying they implemented dark well (or steel, it should be only robots and metal coat evos).

I just saying what a small surprise Bite has more psychological damage than a blunt tackle from a bull. Crunch is way too strong for that, it's like Crash Claw.
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>>59535034
>>59535040
because contact is not visible enough of an attribute. The Punches being Fighting with BRN, FRZ, PRZ is a good compromise, like Scald.

The thinking process is like so:
Is the attack a strong punch that is hot ? Then it is a Fighting type with BRN.

Is the attack a small fire jet that happens to be projected from the knuckles? Then it's a Fire type attack with Contact.
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>>59535057
I mean, sure. It is supposed to be dirty tricks and mind games.



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