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>fast bulky mixed attacker
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Oy vey
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Aye caramba
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>mixed
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>>59557681
mixed means it's the mpreg baby of a zeraora and lucario couple.
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Dios mio
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>>59557684
Hot but she should be my daughter
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>>59557690
are you a zeraora?
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>>59557681
>100 attack
I could see a bulk up drain punch set working well if you got rid of special attackers
It doesn't really need to give a shit about tanking anyways, it can brush off any sort of priority thrown at it and that's all a Pokémon like this could ever wish for. If it gets one Sword Dance in it's joever, few things can outspeed and ko it
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>>59557696
>bulk up
why not swords dance?
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>>59557696
>Sword Dance
Meant Nasty Plot
>>59557750
To take hits even better, even one defense boost would scale like crazy with that ability. This would be more of a singles sweeper set where you use the rest of your team to rape any special attacker
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Halving contact moves is a fucking boring ability for being called Aura Break and being on THE shillmon.
It should have nullified/absorbed Fighting Type moves, which would be a big deal since it's weak to fighting (and Mach Punch fucks it up). Maybe do something else too like boost it's own Aura based moves.
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>>59557924
>and Mach Punch fucks it up
I meant Vacuum Wave. Aura Break will weaken Mach Punch at least, though it'll still only be neutral and Mega Lucario Z has pretty bad bulk.
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>>59557929
what if you run both protect/detect and quick guard?
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>>59557924
Few Pokémon run stabbed Vacuum Wave anyways
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>>59557750
You’re better off using the original Mega Luc for that(stronger Extremspeeds, Adaptability STAB, etc)
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>>59557663
it's like it was designed to specifically destroy the older mega in a battle
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>>59558056
Too bad it folds to Shillizard. I guess it's still not at the top of the shill order
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>>59558067
>Shillizard
More like cucket-out-of-a-world-championship-zard lol
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>>59557663
>Mixed attacker
Just because you can use physical utility moves like Upper Hand, doesn’t make something a Mixed Attacker.
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>>59558117
It has a decent attack stat and ways to boost it, or is 100 attack worthless nowadays
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>>59558122
more like why boost 100 atk when you can boost 164 atk
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>>59558117
Chansey and Blissey say hi
If you use Close Combat they explode, otherwise they can take any special hit
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>>59558122
On a Mega that intentionally lowers its own Atk just to bump up its speed and SpA and also already has another Mega that has way higher Atk and Adaptability, yes it is in fact.
And what the fuck are you gonna run? Sword Dance Close Combat, Aura Sphere, and Dark Pulse?
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>>59557924
It's called Aura Guard
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>>59558993
+2 252 SpA Lucario-Mega-Z Focus Blast vs. 4 HP / 252+ SpD Blissey: 542-642 (83.1 - 98.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
0 Atk Lucario-Mega-Z Close Combat vs. 4 HP / 252 Def Blissey: 510-602 (78.2 - 92.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
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>>59558056
They're more like opposites according to the sure, Mega Lucario specializes in raw power, Z specializes in defense and speed
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>>59559022
>Focus Miss
>guaranteed anything
Also mixed Lucario would have some Atk investment to meet that threshold
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>>59559054
>Yeah bro just waste an entire moveslot and a bunch of EVs just to KO a single Pokemon that is terrible and gets hit hard anyways after your own Nasty Plot and doesn’t even threaten you back with anything besides Thunder Wave
Truly a great insight from /vp/
Please post your Lucario set so we can know what to expect from an expert like you. EVs and all.
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>>59559098
First off, Chansey and Blissey are always better in an environment with megas. Their insane special bulk is more needed when shit with 150+ SpA is running around.
Second off, it hits Assault Vest sets harder than Focus Blast.
Third and most importantly Close Combat is a WAY better STAB in general than Focus Miss even if it comes off a slightly worse stat.
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>>59557684
who was the mom?
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>>59558993
What about bullet punch or Flash Canon?
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>>59560733
Luke
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>>59559024
>raw power
Nether his attack or special attacks come close to Mega Lucario Z's special attack.
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>>59560752
>his
her*
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>>59560752
OG Mega Lucario gets Adaptability
252 SpA Adaptability Lucario-Mega Aura Sphere vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Shaymin: 184-218 (53.9 - 63.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Lucario-Mega-Z Aura Sphere vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Shaymin: 156-184 (45.7 - 53.9%) -- 46.1% chance to 2HKO
So if you’re using STAB on either side, the original is stronger.
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>>59557663
Another awful fucking design. Gamefreak is truly masterclass at this.
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>>59560873
Found the spikefag edgelord
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Will Aura Break reverse Aura Guard?
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>>59557663
He doesn't has a good typing and easily did to special move. Absol is better
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>>59560884
>mega with 65/60/60 defenses
>being meta relevant
A single fake out is going to send you to the hospital
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>>59560884
In what world is fighting/steel bad
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>>59560897
A single fake out can't even touch a ghost type
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It's gonna be aids to deal with because both of its mega require completely different answers. One is a fast-ish mixed wallbreaker, the other is a fast as fuck physically bulky special attacker. Image switching in your assvest Goodra or whatever and they hit you with that adaptability boosted close combat
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>>59560960
>using goodra
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>>59560960
I agree that people are undervaluing the versality that two mega options brings. Maybe Absol is easy to predict but Chomp and Cario could both punish mispredictions hard.
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>>59560969
Goodra here can be replaced with whatever other assvest user you have
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so they just gave it the Fur Coat ability, but with a cooler name?



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