GRASSY SURGE EditionPokémon Champions is a free to play online battle simulator available on Switch and mobile. It features ranked, casual and private battles for both singles and doubles, and will be used for VGC tournaments in 2026.>NewsEnter HAJ1MAR1G1FT for a free 100 Quick Coupons and CHAMP10N for a free Machamp.24 new Pokemon(and megas) will be released in Reg-C, which comes out September 9th.>Resources and useful linksCommunity Tournaments usage data: https://pikalytics.com/Ladder usage data: https://pokechamdb.com/enNew Player Guide(NEW PEOPLE READ THIS):https://rentry.org/pcg-guide (now taking suggestions and feedback)Anon made guide for brand new players to make a viable team with the starting pokemon: https://teamsheet.gg/t/sample-beginner-reg-b-vl3698Quick FAQ>Do I need my own Pokémon to play?No, the game features a recruitment system, but transferring from Home is recommended to save time and resources.>What makes the game so much more accessible than before?All aspects of a Pokémon are customizable with VP, a currency earned simply by playing the game. IVs are also removed.Ask in the thread if you want any specific Pokémon, and someone will respond.>Is there single player content?No.>Do I need a Nintendo Online subscription?No.>What's the starter pack?US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 Teammate Tickets (recruit Pokemon without using VP), 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music. Only available on Switch for now.>Is anything locked behind a paywall?So far everything gameplay relevant is also purchasable with VP. Only E-Floette require ZA transfer.>/pcg/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread): https://pastebin.com/d2FJZdPhPrevious: >>59563134
Does M-Garchomp Z + Choice Scarf Moxie Krookadile have what it takes?
Hot take: they should have just given all starters megas, including the Hisuian ones.
>>59568497Sinnoh starters definitely need something at this point.
I'd be really sad if they didnt add perma box space. I wouldnt be able to continue playing.
>>59568520>no regional forms>no Megas, Z-Moves, or Gigantamax forms>not even a signature moveTragicI guess Serperior can also be counted alongside them for also getting shafted
BIGMONEYNOWHAMMY
>>59568533Serperior was still the best of the three by a country mile and even then is arguably the third best grass starter behind Venasaur and Rillaboom>Meganium sucks without its mega>Sceptile got shafted with the physical/special split two decades ago but GF kept insisting on giving it physical moves and refusing to swap its Phys Attack and Special Attack. Its Mega only made it marginally better but still lacks a lot of tools needed to get the job done. Earth Power in Champions is far too little too late.>Torterra is the worst of the Sinnoh starters>Chesnaught was the worst of the Kalos ones for a very long time up until semi-recently and even then its lows were significantly lower than Greninja and Delphox>Decidueye is the worst of the Alola AND Hisui starters. GF refusing to make more sweeping changes to the latter’s stats with LA still boggles the mind>Meowscrada is the only one that can be argued as being better than Seperior but they flip-flop between third and fourth best
choice specs coming trust
https://www.youtube.com/live/SewlY0u1Xrs?si=W0L0l3VHddlVTYUUI'm late...
>>59568492this is getting RILLA'd before it does anything
>>59568672She's going negative bros...
I hope Galar fossils are in
>>59568752At least she's still at 2k elo and even won the last fight. Way better than whatever tf happened to me this morning
>>59568082Super late but I went to bed. They are, but he also had a torkoal hatterene in the back so I thought he was hybrid and that the remaining non sneasler mons were going to be min speed.I also completely forgot that Barbaracle loves shell smash.
I feel like items would have more impact than most pokemons.
if indeedee is in the back and gets sent out while rillaboom is about to grassy glide under grassy terrianwill psychic terrian block the move entirely? or will it just remove the priority?
What if Rillaboom loses Grassy Glide
>when you hit a Meowscarada lead with Fake Out + Mach Punch off a M-LopunnyHaha fuck you
>>59569193becomes a regular move
>>59569218It did temporarily before the SV DLC, & even then it was still cancerous as FUCKHave it lose High HorsePower+nerf Glide AGAIN to 35BP & we'll talk
>>59569218Its more likely to lose fake out and/or knock off if anything.
How many tickets do you guys have saved up? Though I guess it doesn't matter if you won't have the box space to keep these things in.
>>595693323254
Is there a gen in Pokemon that doesn't have an absolute cancerous meta? There is more guessing and luck involved in this than actual skill.
>>59569337mitigating luck is a skill, turbocancer metagolem comps are just the ones that do it besttheres cancer in every gen tho that's just the nature of rpgs
I am looking up frosslass teams and most of them are frosslass/sneasler/basc/king/lycanrock/scovillainI don't understand what is the point of scovillain there.
>>59569398kingambit
>>59569398matchups where froslass is unplayable like sand or phoxtoise and it's good into the fishgambitler trifecta
>>59568551It WILL get water bubble
>1 win away from reaching MB-2>Lose until I'm down to the top 200kThis is the third time.
How long would it take to grind the battle pass for the corbeau outfit (lvl30) if i start now
>>59569530You can literally do it in a day.
>>59569530Like a couple hours or something. I hit level 50 on the bp on day 1.
>>59569530ezpz
>>59569517Does araquanid still have entrainment? It'd be funny to get the set up after a trick room
>>59568553>Chesnaught was the worst of the Kalos ones for a very long time up until semi-recently and even then its lows were significantly lower than Greninja and DelphoxCompletely false. Delphox was easily the worst of the Kalos trio for the longest time while Chesnaught had a strong niche in specific defensive cores.
you now remember mega greninja
>Gets Nasty Plot>Only to lose it immediately after
There's really nothing but pride and mirror match schizophrenia stopping me from just using the best 6 pokemon in the game, I haven't professored any of them or even got an admirer badge on most
Can anyone trade a shiny Scorvillain with me?
>>59569337Reg MB could've been a decent meta if they nerfed last respects like they did rage fist, maybe it should be like a cracked version of retaliate where it uses its max power for one turn but then goes back to 50 or scales downward by 50 after each turn until it's back to 50, at least it'd take skill to use then trying to switch basc in on a protect turn and there'd be some counterplay besides bulky dark types with Foul Play and kingambit
>>59568752>>59568778>she
The TEAM to beat off to
>>59569899based
>>59569557I wish noivern got Nasty Plot, the fact that chomp got it in the first place but not noivern is retarded pokenepotism
>>59569899cant wait until they add pre-evos to add braixen to my team
What mon you sorta liked but ended up liking even more after this reg? For me it was azumarill, had it from when I played GO 9 years ago, transferred it to home then to champs and has seemed really underrated and punched above its weight peaking in the 2100s before a frustrating tilt to 1860 from me playing like a tard for 2 sessions, rillaboom might make it obsolete but I do have a venusaur to support azumarill so we'll see
>>59569530Can't wait to skill swap huge power onto the rillaboomer
>>59569899this guy is so fucking pumped
>>59569894Bunba chan is a girl anon. She was wearing a mask in her streamed match at one of those tournaments but she's one of japan's best and is obviously female
I honestly can't force myself to play this game, I'm just in ultra and I sit there, every team is the same, so many shitmons, zero buffs ect. this shit is retarded
So what's the hack that tells you what move your opponent is picking?
>>59569992Once you get to master, you can sit in the low elos 1500s and under and fight a variety of teams. That's where people test teams and you might find yourself losing a lot but at least it's different teams and you learn different sets and techniques. This is true for both bss and dubs. You only have to worry about the same teams over and over in MB2 and above, and to some extent MB3.
https://www.patreon.com/SteccaVGC/posts/2026-worlds-top8-168523955Stefano Greppi (7th place Worlds 2026) just published his team report. Its free. Suggest you give it a read.
Do you agree?
>>59570011Meanwhile wolfe's is paid (unless its free now? Didnt bother to check again) and he didnt even make it past day 1
>>59570022Perish trap literally should be in 3rd. Trick room is as honest as it gets, its just speed control.
>>59570022>Perish trap is honest>Hyper offense/balance isn't>Each weather is a specific playstyle >Screens are somehow unethical when snow with aurora veil is fine
>>59570022I don't interact with engagement baitI don't mind giving anons a free (You) every once in a while though
>>59570000This!
>>59570001>find yourself losing a lot
>>59570000Semen retention
>>59570041Anon if you want to climb you need to either get good or learn to pilot meta teams better. If you want to insist on suboptimal teams with some meta mons sprinkled in, you will lose a lot until you find your groove or figure out a set mix that helps you climb and get win streaks. It's a process. Find joy in the losing and come back better
>got to MB in singlesAnd fuck all those mimikyus out there. Fucking fuck fuck
>>59569923Combination of Mega Kangaskhan, Azumarill and Kommo-O on my day 1 speed control team (can set-up Tailwind with Corvinight or TR with Farig). Mega Kangaskhan isn’t the menace it once was but is still powerful, Azumarill hits like a truck and no one expects the Kommo-O with Overcoat to not give a shit about Sinistcha’s Rage Powder and go for their other mons. Dragon Fang boosted Clanging Scales is also surprisingly strong into even resisted Pokemon like Gambit. Other Pokemon on the Day 1 team is Chandelure as an alt / back-up TR setter and damage-dealer.
>just lost to weak armor destiny bond ceruledge into trick roombrb killing self
my fucking h arcanine never hits head smash
>>59569923Sableye ended up being a demon. He has prankster and his move pool is better than other prankster users (except for the lack of tailwind which does suck hard)
>>59570000It's only available for Android and its called Nice quads. Checked
I will be the next Takuma Yamazaki ttebayo
Already have one from XY but a shiny is a shiny. This was my second; Garganycl was my first on the third day of the game.
>>59570071Every time i use mimikyu i lose. Every time they use mimikyu they win.
SAVE YOUR TICKETS FOR MC
>>59570240Nah save for when legends and mythicals come
>>59569923Swampert. It always seemed mid before, but seeing that fat fuck throw its arms up into the air, wail like a retard than Wave Crash into something and OHKO it really grew on me.
>>59568482How the fuck do I consistently beat the Charizard/Venasaur core? Trying to do some last minute grinding and made it up to the top 5K, but holy FUCK it is walling me from getting further. Venasaur especially is a huge pain the ass to deal with; who the hell though giving a chlorophyll user Sleep Powder was a good idea?
>>59570312Be glad Lilligant isn't here yet, so you don't have to deal with Sleep Powder AND After You
>>59570324>sleep powder + after youYour Vileplume?
>>59570326Sorry, I meant Sleep Powder, After You, and actually outspeeding Scarf Garchomp. My mistake.
>>59569899>no zoroark>no delphox
I started playing like a week or 2 ago and yesterday I decided to make a singles team around Mega Zard X (because it's my favorite mega). However, I don't know if I just suck at reading the opponent or making decisions, or if the team is just weak but I keep losing with it... and I'm only at Ultra Ball level.Any suggestions/changes/recommendations?
>>59570363I'm not a great player but mt take is that this team is a really by the book, easy read, all sort of easy to deal with. I feel like you're probably not using the Mamoswine as much as you'd like, out of worry it won't match in well? You need to try to do different things than is expected and the most unexpected aspect is that you're bringing X instead of Y, which is again easy to deal with. I feel like I'd bring Excadrill over Garchomp.
>>59570377>I feel like you're probably not using the Mamoswine as much as you'd likeMamoswine is the one I'm using the most because it has stealth rock, sometimes I set it up, sometimes I attack instead. Honestly, seems like Mega Zard X is the one I'm not bringing as much as I wanted and when I do, it kinda sucks.
>>59570363If not for the Mimikyu I would have thought this was a doubles team. What are things you regularly get destroyed by? Build around them.
>>59570363i'd put meowscarada over gambit as a late game cleaner for more coverage, also gets over stuff like defense stacking stallfags and some bulky mons like hippow
>pulled a shiny absol>big absol fan>think regular absol z looks betterwell shit
GIVE ME ALOLAN SANDSLASHGIVE ME STEEL ROLLER
I’m making a Lucario-Z team and I’m astounded at how shit her moveset is
if we get Indeedee then I might play it with sash setup sweeper like Shell Smash + Stored Power Polteageist
>>59570528Be the one guy that uses base Mega Absol
>>59569923My nigga Houndstone. Had a blast torturing Kingambits slowly to a whimpering death. I also consider Raichu and Alolan Ninetales to be way cooler then I previously thought thanks to their performance for me this season just being incredible teammates.
>>59569923Vanilluxe. It won me a ton of games. It hits surprisingly hard. It's surprisingly tanky. Sometimes gets me clutch freezes. Even if it dies it's usually after an aurora veil for the rest of the team.
2 days left to pull some random bullshit whatcha got>>59569923Used BelliGOAT awhile back and it's honestly underrated Life Orb KANTOOOauros was also the MVP in the short time I used it in my Eel team (had to go because of intimidate spam at the time) basically one shotted anyone who took an unresisted Body Slam
>>59570650>Mega Sharpedo in doublesYou’ve piqued my interest with what the rest of the team is anon.
how would you even buff Sceptile to compete with Rillaboom?
>>59570679Replace its Hidden Ability from Unburden to Sharpess? Honestly the time to rework it was back in ORAS and GF really fucked-up on that front with Sceptile.
>>59570679Sceptile couldn't compete even without Rillaboom. Lightning rod just isn't a good ability for it. It basically has no ability but its stats don't make up for it unlike some other Megas that basically have no ability. People try to build around it with discharge meme teams but it just doesn't work. Give it another fucking ability.
>>59570665nothing too crazy, still making adjustments Megapedo and Kommo are on probation I need a late game janny. Azumarill turned out to be the real champ, tanks 2-3 hits and puts the hurt like no other. Belly Drum with a good lead puts some immense pressure and gives the partner free rein, sometimes tcha gets an easy TR out of it. Ninetales is mostly weather tech. Open to suggestions because this team is pretty much all had reads.>anon how the fuck does it deal with Floettewith a Fairy Aura boosted Play Rough that's how
Workshopping a Psychic Terrain teamMain four Expanding Force abusers would be Indeedee, Slowbro-Galar, Armarouge and Hatterene.Main two threats that I see are Rillaboom and Dark types like Kingambit.Indeedee has Psychic Surge to set the terrain, ties Rilla in speed so -Speed nature would be good, and soft Trick Room is an option.Slowbro resists Grass and can clap back at Rilla really hard. Kingambit absolutely walls it however, so some coverage like Flamethrower or Drain Punch will be needed. I like the idea of Drain Punch to also shut down other Dark types, but that'd make it a mixed attacker meme.Armarouge works both under Trick Room and outside of it with Weak Armor boost, has good coverage and support options.Hatterene is another Trick Room setter, has Dazzling Gleam for dragons, Magic Bounce, but other than that I don't think she offers much.What would be a good Mega for this team? Lopunny to shore up that massive Dark/Ghost/Bug weakness?
>>59570679White Herb Sceptile with Shed Tail in singles is funny enough
>>59570681I never liked Mega Sceptile. The dragon thing was totally forced and it was purely given that to appease anti single type spergs. It was given an ability that has absolutely nothing to do with its design to launch a tree tail. Launching the tree tail has nothing to do with dragons or Sceptile's base design. It got +25 attack that it can't make good use of as a mixed attacker over getting even just a little bulk. The entire thing is a complete mess.
>>59568497I guess they will eventually do it? Like, with champion they don't really need to wait for another mainline game to introduce new megas or gigantamax forms (though Legends galar will probably add a few), they can just announce them and add them directly.
>>59568520It's weird. If Diamond and Pearl got remade like Omega Ruby Alpha Sapphire they would have gotten Gigantamax forms. I feel like Gigantamax fits them better than Mega anyways.>Torterra half buried in the ground like the Detective Pikachu movie>Infernape floating on a giant fiery smoke cloud or has a giant flame staff>Empoleon gets a huge crown and shield or trident like wings
Leave Aura Guard, Flash Fire, and Armor Tail to me
It's weird that Mega Blastoise and Mega Venusaur basically have the same stats
>>59570691Will give this one a run once the new season starts or when I finally get 100 wins with my Mega Megagross team (only need 9 more with Megagross and Sylveon each). I have no idea how I got 100 wins with H Samurott before those two.
>on a 6 game win streak>1820 What's the minimum for MB2?
>>59570692If you’re doing TR shenanigans then Mega Mawile, Mega Kangaskhan, Mega Blaziken or Mega Staraptor might be considered as options too.
>>59570698I really do wonder if they kept it that way because GF thought ‘Blaziken and Swampert are already physical attackers so we need one of the trio to be a special atracker’, but it really feels like they just drew ideas out of a hat and stuck with the first few they drew for Mega Sceptile. Part of me hopes it gets a regional form one day to address its issues, but the other half of me knows GF will fuck it up just like they did with Decidueye.
>>59570698Running it with its blowjob brother rotom heat feels good when it works tho
>>59570756Thanks, I like all four options for different reasons.I also remembered Absol Z is coming and that's gonna be a big threat to watch out for, although Armarouge after Weak Armor and Jolly Lopunny can outspeed and one-shot it (unless it's +Speed nature itself). M-Mawile shits on it too.
>>59570692You don't have to literally use all psychic types. I imagine you put in other things that appreciate not being hit by priority moves the same way people slot in Farigiraf outside of trick room teams.
>>59570764I don't know what magical moveset inclusion would even save it. There's some Pokémon that just need full retcons to save. But changing a mega ability is unprecedented. Normal Mega Absol could use it too.
>>59570788If it was allowed Draco Meteor it could be the true glass cannon it’s clearly meant to be. As for a regional variant, do what they did with Samurott: swap its Phy Attack and Sp Attack, take 5 to 10 points from Sp Attack and give it to Phy Attack, give it either Sharpness or a Grass-type version of Pixilate / Aerialate, and while we’re at give it Extreme Speed.
They damn better release some hats and ui updates with this we have gotten literally NOTHING since release outside the crummy pass
>>59570780It's subject to change of course, but without testing all I can really do is go all in on this and see what works.
>>59568482>>What's the starter pack?>US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 Teammate Tickets (recruit Pokemon without using VP), 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music. Only available on Switch for now.Bros, i don't own a switch but my friend does, would it work if i use my nintendo account with my friend's switch and buy it from there?
>>59570908yeppa
i bought something i could get extra boxes. if i see something i like in the battle pass, ill buy it. i bought the canari themed one.
>>59570908>Only available on Switch for now.mobile users have it like hell man
>your 100% pokemon gets demolished by a Fissure off SnorlaxBullshit
i live in Maryland, and i heard there was a regional Baltimore so i registered, i was a mobile only user and i didnt know this regional didnt allow this usage of phones. just purchased a second hand switch lite just to play this tour in 2 weeks. im worried i will have to start buying more of the games if legends become legal.
>>59570945Oh no, you'll have to play Pokemon?We won't have a restricted format for a while, don't worry about it.
>>59570945god forbid you have to play the game to get the best mons
Is there any benefith of running base Lucario. Or should i wait for the new mega?
>>59571031It's a better physical attacker
>>59571045Jolly Life orb?
>>59571031use it as a follow me bot.
>>59571054I thought you meant normal mega, base Lucario isn't very good but physical with Sash/Life Orb is probably the way to go if you want to use it
>>59571068Yea sorry, i ran normal mega as a special attacker.
>>59571031If you're into shitty memes (which obviously you are if you want to run Lucario in the first place), you can run either Scarf Final Gambit or Justified with Beat Up Whimsicott.
2026 World Champion, Takuma Yamazaki just published his team reporthttps://note.com/rapid_mint7926/n/nf439490f62a6?sub_rt=share_sb
>>59570312Sableye with prankster rain dance shuts it down hard.
So how are we gonna use the Tyranitar starter team for MC?
Rillaboom should have both Wood Hammer and Grassy Glide removed so that it actually uses its cool signature move
Can anyone explain why I'm seeing meta teams in Pokeball?
>>59571582retards or last minute grinders
>>59571582People brand new to competitive Pokemon who just searched "pokemon champions top meta". Expect them to just click Heatwave / Solar beam every turn.
>>59571582Basically spawn camping for easy vp
>>59571582Why are you in pokeball?
We are 2 days away from a new format and they can't even give us information about it prior?I'm fucking sick of surprise regulations, you're not building hype by withholding information. It wasn't like this before, you always had a strong idea of what was coming. There are regionals coming up in less than 2 weeks.
>>59571834everyone else is going through the same thing niggayou're not the only one singled out and forced to make a team within a week
>>59571834Welcome to every Pokemon mobile game ever. It doesn't even make sense for this one since there's no gacha system motivating them to keep the paypigs in the dark.
What's with all the choice scarf outrage garchomps out there now?
>>59571843>it's fucking everyone so don't complain
>>59571225Ah very useful because we all speak moon runes
>>59571916Seriously release the ability already
>>59571913The internet is actually full of ways to translate the page for you.
>>59571834Anon we already know rillaboom and mence are coming. That's all you need to know. They know. You know. And they know you know and you just wont admit it.
>>59572079naruhodo
>>59571645What's the fucking point of climbing anymore?>>59571826I barely play Champions these days
>>59572161>What's the fucking point of climbing anymore?For the love of the game
imagine waking up next to typhlosion every dayhttps://youtube.com/shorts/zlfusRbI1gM?si=M0gEJXEwgQzgACci
>>59572183WHAT THE FUCK
>>59572161>What's the fucking point of climbing anymore?Because I'm miserable and a failure and I feel even worse if I'm not at least MB3.
Do we have all the special snowflake abilities yet? I remember when Home first updated they reserved a few slots for new abilities. Off the top of my head we got>Eelevate>Piercing Drill>Spicy Spray>Fire Mane>Aura Guard
>>59572183Did he piss on the bed??
>>59571880All the other pokemon mobile games get announcements basically daily.
give bax ice face
>>59572223In TCGP they never announce new sets ahead of time in the app. You just log in one day and they're there. They want app users to not slow down on opening packs because a new set is coming.Or you have to follow them on a third party service like Twitter where they actually do announce everything.
got robbed of a game, first time this happens>select move>didn't receive your input
>>59572200Oh right forgot about>Dragonize>Mega SolThat should be it for new abilities right? I don't remember there being more than 10 slots.
>>59572235Did they not just announce something at worlds?
>>59572235They announce them a week in advance with a teaser trailer and release a complete trailer a few days before release.
>>59572270>>59572275I think the main distinction is that Pokemon Champions has no communication at all, it's radio silence till the end of a regulation.You get a singles challenge announced at the beginning of a season and that's it. Unite gets a mon announced every 2 weeks or so and there's always promotional announcements. Go gets events announced every few days.Champions gets nothing, no communication at all and no indication that we'll have any new content to look forward to besides laddering.
>>59572235Funny, in champions, I don’t use my tickets or VP on the ranch 2-3 weeks before a new format.
Japanese players are some of the most sniveling cocksuckers ever. One stalled me to time up.
Is there any way to make furfrou good? asking for a friend.
>>59572358In singles at least I've been doing ok with some monsters just using the most used build from the battle stats
Any chance we get a datamine now the new week is upon us
>it's another Mega Venusaur stall episode
>>59570055Different anon but should I just borrow a top meta team and brute force my way into git gud by studying my losses like Kobe Bryant minus the rapes?
>>59570071Use Rotom W and burn the fuck out of it
>>59570071You're psyching yourself out. They're no worse than a Focus Sash mon in many cases.
>>59572419>has multiple immunities and resistances>has priority and a move that has high crit rate>can just carry Orb for even more damage since no need for SashNah, fuck those fuckers
>>59572389I would use that if mega Delphox wasn't so prevelant, megasaur behind screens is the toughest match up for my team as I have no flying or psychic coverage, best I can do is focus in on it and chip it with regular LO venusaur before taking care of the rest of the team
>>59571582There are two kinds of people. The people that grind to Master Ball the first week of a season, and the people that grind to Master Ball the last week of a season.
>>59572183Creepy
>>59572400If you want to climb yea.
MC update news
>>59572495Please add Battle replays
>>59572495will they patch her out
>>59572531She gets put in the hospital after her disobedient Maractus gets a little too reckless with Needle Arm
>>59572531They just need to stop dressing her like a grandma
When are we getting a battlepass with Lebanne's maid outfit?
>>59572557Very soon
>>59572542She was probably raised by her grandparents - which means her parents are absent. Character hook for the single-player content that will never come.
>>59572495Glad they're keeping us apprised.
HeatranMeatranHeBeatMyMeatandRan
>>59572531Hopefully, I'm tired of seeing her ugly face after a match
You now remember Kitt
Here we go again, ichiban, Champions, and For the love of the game are fire. Unlike last year's garbage
>get into MB again>no more cutsceneAnd this game is cancelled
I just put up my mimikyu for bax on GTS. Perhaps someone could spare a shiny? Arigadankesomuch
I've struggled so fucking much against the charizard and veno start, I got no idea how to deal with it. I'm using farig and incel as the opener sometimes, especially when I run into a kingambit, because they usually try to sucker punch the fox right away but I just nasty plot and fakeout the other mon, then next turn I switch in farig to block the souped up sucker punch they wanna drop on me and melt them to a crisp.
>>59572797Woops I mean that I open with delphox and incel
>>59572797weirdly you start delph sinistea hit rage powder and pray they let you nasty plot. Sinistea will probably die in that first turn. You then bring in incin fake out venausur hit psychic, this should one shot Charizard. You're also welcome to psychic the venasaur if you think the Zard will protect.
>>59572815Responding to myself here but you should also really consider a speed nature on delphox there's a couple crucial speed tiers you get with that namely some slower scarfers and things like speed nature frosslass.
>>59569984iirc he's recycled asset from sword/shield
>>59572557>no skirtsigh
>>59572797You have 4 support Pokémon. Your only real attacker is Delphox which you are always going to use which makes you extremely predictable to pick leads against. Unless it's your favorite or it's actually a really useful secret weapon the Armarouge should probably go a maybe a secondary mega that covers weaknesses better. Also people have protect in doubles for a reason. Not having it is very ballsy. I think one of the supports should also go. Either Grimmsnarl or Incineroar. If Kingambit is a problem you can maybe consider Sneasler over Incineroar. I don't really understand the burning jealousy either.
>>59572797both offensive pokemon are weak to the same typing. how do you deal with garchomp, tyranitar and other pokemon that resist fire/psychic?also no protect on delphox seem risky but that's my opinion
>>59572956I'm not that anon, but I know with my delphox+blastoise team which is set up similarly a nasty plot psychic will ohko basically everything up until farig. So that is likely the answer, that said my version even with all the flexibility it has has a real rough time if I can't get the setup move off. This team I'm completely unconfident in just because it's super obvious the delphox is nasty plot and delphox has plenty of matchups it does not want to see because there will never be a window (basculegion/scarf or mega ttar are two prime examples).
>>59572771Shiny bax please?Also MYSTERY GIFT CODE for 100 coupons get it while it's hot>10M1NTRNR
>>59573225>giving out gacha codes before banner updatedevilish
sword of ruin megabax sneed it or keep it
>>59573225If no one offered shinies first there's no one that's going to help beggars like you. You should have gotten one months ago before it was confirmed. They were extremely easy to get that people were practically begging to take them. A few months ago there was an event in Go for them and Home was flooded with thousands of them that no one wanted. I looked now and it's all faggots with impossible listings for these same shiny Baxcalibur no one wanted.
>>59573270Who hurt you anon
>>59573273This isn't a begging or genning general. Baxcalibur isn't as easy to gen as things from 7 under so you coming here begging for a shiny one unprompted is crazy.
>>59573279You are clearly very broken. You poor thing
>>59573270isn't genning shit in SV super easy with a cracked switch?
>>59573289It's just that one anon that comes here and gets strangely butthurt by random GTS requests
watch baxcalibur get refrigerate
>>59573301That'd be cut, I guess? Id rather he kept thermal exchange unless it's some elevate bs abiltiy that puts both together
>>59573289How would you get it into Home? Do you not understand how many steps it is?>emunand JKSV > PkHex PC > emunand JKSV again > sysnand Home > Home mobileOr if you're paranoid of a ban it's>hacked Switch emunand JKSV > PkHex PC > emunand JKSV again > open game > trade to game on legitimate Switch > sysnand Home > Home mobileIt's not as brainless as 3DS.>PkHex > Bank > Home mobileThe trade bots automate all of those steps.
>>59573308>enable cheat menu>start encounter with pokemon in the right zone>rare candy to evolve>clone 10000 copies>send them to homewow so hard, it's not some mythical that only exists in bank games retard
>>59573313Not him but if that guy wants to beg then just do it in the appropriate thread then or go find someone to leech on Discord if it's that easy
>>59573313Why don't you do it then if it's so effortless? Or why can't he do it? It's so easy right?
>>59573321Is there even a thread for that?
>>59573321If he has a legitimate Switch and whatever respective game there's dozens of free genning services on Twitch or the first links in Google. But if he doesn't, even doing all that for him is a big ask when he's just going to sit there putting up his trash from Go and kicking his legs up then nagging every few hours.
>>59573321Stop being mean. I'd do it if I had a Switch, but all I got is my 3DS so my gens are up to gen 7 only.
>>59573377I dont think he's being mean tho. He's just off his meds and lashing out on GTS requests again. He'll get over it
>every single shiny that's any useful is up for a ES-LA BasculegionThat's seriously so annoying.
>>59573402it's a shame that GO will announce a month in advance that basculegion is coming, and that it'll have some stupid annoying quest like "do 10 ghost type raids before you can evolve it"imagine if they just shadowdropped it out of nowhere and you could immediately evolve it (white basculins are already in the game)
>>59573421I just wanted a nice Scovillain to use...
>staraptor+whim on enemy team>forced to bring two counters to match the fair bird of fun games>they didn't bring it or lead with a different pair>losegreat game. awesome. fucking awesome i love staraptor what a great pokemon
>wanting shiniesit was genned. it wasn't earned. there's no clout to be had ,nothing. you in fact come across as a faggot when you throw your ugly pokemon out before me
>>59573447Bring your own whimsy with worry sneed
>>59573457>using whimno lol im a straight and white man
>>59573455what if my shiny has the autistic pogo stamp that all the spergs desire?
>>59573477No wonder you lost
>>59573477bring clefable or other unaware mon
>>59573477>i'm straightwhich tier of mball are you in
>>59573477whimsicott is goated. dont disrespect it
>>59568482we wont have to wait the 4 hours to see the MC updates. thank god this games on the switch 1
>>59573502is there a reason why champions is so gatekeepy when it comes to announcing mons for new formats? they deleted a tweet regarding the exact number, they are drip feeding mons to us now. wasnt like this before. they would give us the mons a month in advance.i would also like to point out that reg MC ends December 1st, Las Vegas Regionals is December 5th. So are players going to have 3 days to prep for a format that will give us mega heatran, and likely other sub legends like urshifu, tornadus, lando etc.
>>59573509they will probably extend the format through the weekend. they extended MB for some reason, just giving us a couple more days of it in september
>>59573502>>595735091. They want players to experience the new format on champions first2. It does create more hype because people speculate online3. A theory i have is that they dont have a concrete list on whats being added in advance. I think MB was a preplanned update, but they said they would study the metagame, and listen to player input on how to decide a format. its likley they are fine turning / testing the mons up until the last couple days. This theory will be proven right or wrong when we see the MC mons tommrow, and if any of them can stop big six or can check kingambit, basc sneasler etc.
>>59573499yeah and i bet you think the cup is a cool pokemon too that you genuinely like and just happens to be take strong. you an inciniroar fan too, buttfucker?
>>59573521i like all of those pokemon problem?
>>59573521You think people give a shit if a mon looks good or gay? If it’s good, and fills a role on my team, best believe I’m using it
>>59573521>i bet you think the cup is a cool pokemon tooyes>you an inciniroar fan tooabsolutely
>>59573521Are you one of those people that only use there favorites, and wonder why they aren’t winning?
yikes.might i also add cringe.
>>59573519MC will remove pokemon
>>59573521they cooking you in the quote tweets brother
>>59573530yes
>>59573519>but they said they would study the metagame, and listen to player input on how to decide a format.the only way they can "fix" a format is if they remove mons. may i remind you, kingambit onlt fell off in usage in SV when shit like miraidon and koraidon were added back. granted it would have had a good MU into the calys if they couldnt just tera out of their weaknesses.
>>59573530i know a person who plays vgc irl, only on cart. during reg g, he refused to use a legendary pokemon. he did not make it out of ultra ball.
>>59573536bunch of fags admitting they are meta slaves is not cooking anything
>>59573547yea but notice how they arent complaing about losing? its fine to play off meta bullshit for fun, mega dragonite just won worlds, but you dont get the right to complain about losing to standard teams and disrespect others who are trying to trying to help you. also you shouldnt refuse to use mons because you simply dont like them. you wont get anywhere
there's a reason the champions mcs look like tryhards
Am I going to have a better or worse time in MC with Mega Gardevoir?
People should stop caring about what Pokémon other people choose to use.
>>59573519well they did announce the exact amount in advance so I doubt they'd be changing roster until last minute
>>59573577you did the wojak
>>59573576psychic terrain will be oppressive which means there'll be a lot of dark types to counter it
>>59573402>useful is up for a ES-LA BasculegionWhy this specifically?
>>59573587neither ES-LA compatible game (GO, ZA) has basc, so they don't exist
>>59573583like a day or two after worlds. they never announced it. nintendo america twitter posted it but it was deleted, so not official
>>59573576gardes usage stats from worlds. its not going to get better than this.
>>59573576there'll be a dragon epidemic
>>59573589so its just trolls?
>>59573587either people that do not know that it's an impossible mon and they hope to acquire it to trade it for something else or they are trolls that just put up highly requested pokemon and ask for the latino fish
>>59573592damn mega floette but her out of a job.
>>59573603mega metagross got powercrept as well. mega salamence wont be the meta threat it was in the 3ds era. its grim
>>59573606the issue is that some of these mons like sneasler, basc, gambit are megas in everything but name, and dont take up a mega slot.
>>59573576does it even kill dragon type threats like multiscale regular/mega dragonite?>>59573603more likely that Sylveon did it
>>59573603sylveon does the EXACT same thing without needing to mega evolve and if you want a mega fairy, floette is better in every way shape or form
>>59573509>i would also like to point out that reg MC ends December 1st, Las Vegas Regionals is December 5th. So are players going to have 3 days to prep for a format that will give us mega heatran, and likely other sub legends like urshifu, tornadus, lando etc.I think they have to extend it or change the format dates. The format was decided by tpc not tpci
>>59573606megagross is bad because of chompbitlegionzard tho, which mence has no problem withonly way I see mence getting kicked out is if chomp Z and bulky bax become meta somehow
3 more months of snease basc gambit + zardy slop of if they dont add stuff like ammonguss or weezing
whos idea was it to put shit like mega floette sneasler, basc, gambit in the "low level" power format?
I despise Blastoise users.
>>59573622floette was put in the game so people were forced to buy ZA. notice how its the only mon you cant get from the ranch. its gonna be the same way with the legends in 2-3 years. i wonder how this will effect mobile only players.
>-1 252 Atk Tyranitar-Mega Ice Punch vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Salamence-Mega: 124-148 (72.9 - 87%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after sandstorm damagemaybe I'll build mega ttar as a salamence answer
>>59573626>its gonna be the same way with the legends in 2-3 years. i wonder how this will effect mobile only players.the expection is that mobile only players will buy games by then. you have to play the game at some point. people who have bought games for years should be rewarded. flash back to when i was the only person in my freind group with floette for a while
>>59573626anti big6 teams don't carry floette anyway i'd imagine it'll be business as usual
>>59573608She kills dragons well enough and Hyper Voice does respectable damage to stuff that doesn't resist it but like the other anons said it's a waste of a Mega slot when Floette and Sylveon exists. I'm just using her because instead of them because she's hot.
>>59573635based
>>59573618we need walking wake to end zardslop
>>59573644dies to floette
>>59572797They get shut down hard by rain. Just lead with Grimmsnarl and use parting shot to switch in a Pelliper or Politoad. Or even Tyranitar if you think you can tank the heat wave.Or replace Grimmsnarl with a Sableye with rain dance.
>>59573647>didn't bring zarduh huh
>>59573652big 6 is still zardslop. its the same thing.
>>59573546Speaking of Reg G, I think that format would have benefitted from being a "double/single" restricted format.Meaning you can have 2 restricteds on your team, but you can only bring 1 of them to the battle. It would have made reg G less matchup dependent.
>>59573647if you can rule out 2-3/6 mons out of the equation you already wonnered bigbut yeah clearly the answer is ogerpon
>>59573519This does not create more hype, it makes it feel as if there is no plan at all. The delays, bugs, very little content, and format extensions just feels like the game is half baked and it was sent to die. When they don't announce something until the last moment it feels like some developer was up all night trying to get something done and they aren't sure if it will be done so they just say nothing.
>>59573644It's going to be very difficult to end Zardslop. What is more likely to happen is it will adapt and absorb some new mons as partners to create brand new archetypes.
>>59573663every other mobile game gets weekly updates on new content or any upcoming news. for champions, we get a random online challange at the start of the format, nothing for 3 months, then the announcement of a new format, then nothing until said format actually drops. rinse and repeat. its henious.
>>59573672>What is more likely to happen is it will adapt and absorb some new mons as partners to create brand new archetypes.which is exactly what happened. big 6 countered itself. world championship team was used 4/6 same mons as big 6.
>>59573592
Mega Golisopod is exerting its pressure!
>>59573688>the opposing Pokémon are to afraid to consume their berries
>>59573691Unnerve wouldn’t be bad for it but it’s gonna need something better then that to have impact in a zardy format
>>59573676Not big 6 specifically, I mean 3 of the 4 Zard Archetypes were in top 8.Zard/Aero, Zard/Toxapex, and Big 6.I think Zard/Rain made it to top 16.
>>59573672Menceslop will kick it out I presume, it already survived formats full of fairies
>push Floette so people buy ZA>push zard because MUH CHARIZARD>refuse to add checks to those two, don’t allow mons that would check it in the gameDid the same shit with Urshifu in SV, and locking its counters specially designed for i (ogerpon, raging bolt) behind a dlc, with the latter being version exclusive
>>59573721Not saying I agree with it, but Pokémon is a business. Of course they are going to do things for try and maximise profits. This concept is not new to video games.
>>59573707lol
>>59573707Retard
>>59573676this team was made to beat big 6, which it did, but the team creator said it had no matchup into floette dragonite, which was two of their losses (Yuya Wagasugi and Takuma Yamazaki)
>>59573749>protect as the first slot for all the mons insane
>>59573750i do this. not only is it comfort, but if you time out, the game auto selects the first move slot. protect protect is your safest option if you cant pick your moves, and champions is known to have some issues with this
what can save Xchu
>>59573758Me
>>59573758Light ball pikachu + lightning rod
>>59573758Giving other mons Volt TackleTrust
>>59573758>other electric terrian setter is pinhurichinwhy are no legend electric terrian setters so shit? whats the reason?
>>59573778look at how busted tapu koko and miraidon were.
>>59573778Raichu X aint even shit it's just got triple unlucky opportunity cost, also koko & miraidon were nasty.
>>59573785>Raichu X aint even shitIt definitely is, physical mono Electric types are always useless
miraidon was OHKOing resists reguarly with electrictro drift that shit wasnt funny man
>>59573793this. mouse was dead on arrival.
>>59573749How does this team lose to floette dragonite?
>>59573796AV Rillaboom was your best friend.
>>59573803the left is chloes match report from her matches vs floette dragonite, the right is yuyas match report vs chloe thats beens translated (roughly)
>>59573796i miss using arubega miraidon. got my best result with it (day 2 atlanta 2025)
>>59573839Dodogama!?
>>59573839ive read so many japanese team reports im know some of the names of the mons, like Idaitou, Dodogezan, and garchomps always translates to Gabriel lol even though its not
>>59573839>Since I didn't know the distribution of Whimsicott's movesI thought this had open team sheets.
>>59573901the translation is messed up. he meant he didnt know how fast the whimiscott was, since it wasnt sash. its why he mentions he figured out it was max speed max special attack since it lived dragonites heat wave on 1%
>>59573839the team was was held back by the pilot imo. her stream game did not impress me.
just got rock flinched twice double burned and critted in the same match
Haha wow I really love it when I lose to a sleep-spamming Milotic :DDD
>>59573943Outskilled>>59574024See above
>>59574031LE HECKIN OUTSKILLEDERINO CHUNGUS XDDDDDDD LOL
Give Tatora a bunny outfit
https://www.videogameschronicle.com/features/pokemon-champions-director-vows-to-keep-turn-based-battles-as-single-player-is-ruled-out/>Director thinks the current meta environment is good>no plans to add new game modes because they want to keep things simple for new players>doesn't sound like other gimmicks are being added any time soonGame is cooked
>>59574191They should do a roguelike mode but every gym you fight another player at the same stage of the game.
>>59574191At this rate we'll see maybe Z-moves in late 2027
>>59574191new gimmick will be added but not announced until pokemon day. i didnt expect them to start acting like new gimmicks were never coming, but i guess they figure it might result in people holding out on playing again until the gimmick they want comes along
Can i make the next thread? i have a funny image to use
hi when is mega staraptor being removed from the game?
>>59574322Is it funnier than this image at least?
>>59573402I think Floette stocks crashed. I pretty much haven't seen anything of value for trade in a while now. No more interesting Pokeballs either it's usually one of the defaults. And retarded faggots with no real interest to trade put them up with impossible listings even if it's not even that great a Pokémon.
Reminder that this bastard powercrept a fairy legendary pokemon and made it completely useless
>>59574363kill all vagueposters
>>59573758Electric Terrain is shit with no synergy and you're not always going to have access to paradox Pokémon. I was thinking they should change plus and minus to also work under electric terrain and also boost attack. Klingklang could use the buff.
>>59574363"Powercrept" implies Bulu was ever good
>>59574367learn VGC history if you didn't play the games back then.
>>59574377bro acting like they owns the thread lol
>>59573793It has shit coverage. Maybe they could go full degenerate and give it ice punch or close combat. Otherwise it pretty much just has play rough which is totally useless outside of Garchomp. It just needs a better physical move pool. Mega Raichu Y can't make use of them anyways so it's not going to make that form too strong.
>>59574337people already realized it's a meme and stopped using it as much
>>59574374it was good in 2018, it got second at worlds, then 6th and 10th with some other good regional finshies from 2017-2018, in fact it won 14 regionals in that time frame.
>>59574363And despite all that it's still the most forgettable piece of shit ever since the johto starters
Raichu X's attack is equal to Miraidon's special so clearly the solution is to give it phys hadron engine
>>59574363??? These two have never been legal at the same time.
>>59574385it just got two top 16s at worlds. its a good pokemon
>>59574385It's actually still pretty frail. If you let it get that many close combat boosts you're bad. Plus dual wingbeat is too weak and brave bird it kills itself defeating the point of self buffing.
>>59574391yeah but probably not removed from the game tier good
>>59574390they were legal together in sword and shield
>>59574381its not that hard to brush up on basic vgc history if you dont understand something. not everything is going to be explained so (You) can understand
staraptor's coming back once people realize mega absol z is a threat
>>59574414abzol is ghost
>>59574414>crit psycho cuts you
>>59574421yeah you don't mega if it's gonna use ghost type move, and mega if it's gonna go dark
>>59574424inflicting 50/50s on yourself is a choice
>>59574430thats what reg MA and reg MB has been. big 6 is literally, protect or kill something this turn.
>>59574191I don't need a new battle gimmick, I want fucking gimmick formats like 2v2 tournaments.I want something cool for weekend competitions, this shit isn't hard. Give us SOMETHING to supplement the fucking laddering.
>>59574445prease rook forward to windus and waivus
>>59574449I'm more than a little scared of what the battle system will be in those games.I fear the pvp experience will be tremendously altered or absent.
New>>59574472>>59574472>>59574472
>>59574191Where is my Tera water Dondozo Mega Charizard X match up? False advertising.
>>59570029Trick Room is honest, all right. It's honestly bad.
>>59573749That seems bizarre. Metagross with Ice Punch has a positive matchup into Floette Dragonite.
