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Previous Thread:
>>59565451

FAQ:
https://pastebin.com/MypNBzca
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>still buying modern
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>>59574971
Toasting a dead bread
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>still grading cards
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>>59574971
All I know is that stores here almost never stocked starter decks. I maybe vaguely remember a Charizard theme deck from somewhere in gen 1, but it must be a false memory, as I only ever got a Team Aqua deck from the EX era.
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What's your rarest card? As in, number of said card printed.
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>>59574971
>Orange
I do miss the days of TCG online theme deck mode. Well, before the XY water deck came out and FUCKED the format beyond repair.
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>>59575140
I mean, I have one of these in storage somewhere.
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>>59575145
I wonder what happened to the giant one
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>>59575140
How do you know such print numbers? My guess, for my part, would either be the two you just posted or the Fan Club Porygon
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>>59575213
There are rough estimates made on other forums based on graded population, size of promo event, magazine print number etc. For the most rare it becomes easy because they are usually awarded to just a few as prizes for various stuff. Not including error cards.
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>>59575138
Theme decks were thing during Base Set, parents would buy them for their kids.

After Base Set everyone traded for what they want/need, ripped booster packs or bought singles.

I'm one of the lucky kids whose parents bought all 4 of the original theme decks (Zap, Blackout, Overgrowth and Brushfire). I then wasted my childhood thematically improving these decks (there was a list inside the box on how to improve it but I can't find a photo of it online) while the other kids either don't know how to play or went low IQ Haymaker decks.

I walked the neighbors' dogs and did IRL short fetch quests around town and bought the Gym Heroes and Gym Challenge theme decks as well.
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>>59575140
Probably something like this for me. Only 5000 of these cards were printed and distributed as a part of a Japanese lottery. I have a few other japanese promos, but I don't think they come close to the scarcity of this card.

This card is from the second round of lotteries for the Shiny Legends pokemon. The first round (feature suicine and few others) were even rarer at only 1000 copies printed.

Regardless, Deoxys is a big favourite of mine.
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>>59575230
What are some of the rarer WOTC-era cards (could be Japanese promos — as I imagine most are — I just mean from the 90s to 2003ish) that aren’t quite literally limited to a number you could count on your hands? I know the Pokemon Snap cards are quite rare, same with the university Magikarp, the child/parent kangaskhan, etc.
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>>59575246
Extremely cool shiny Deoxys promo, anon.
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>>59575311
coomer Grimer and OG Misty's Tears
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>>59575376
>セットカード
>レア
???
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BW, XY era reverse holos look nice
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When I was a kid I had a pretty good collection, unfortunately when I was heading to middle school I threw away my collection, thinking that I was too grown up for pokemon. They were mostly EX and some base. Now I am an old man and I am thinking about getting some cards.

On amazon I see a lot of "pitch black", "scarlet and violent", and "chaos rising" (mega evolution era??). Should I get these, or an earlier era?
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>>59575436
collect whatever interests you. that's it.
there are sites like "pokecollector" (lists all cards in all sets), Pkmncards.com (use syntax to filter what you want), browse singles and buy what catches your eye
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>>59575436
In my experience, I’ve found it most rewarding to rebuild my childhood collection. The new slop just doesn’t scratch the itch and leaves me feeling totally hollow
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>>59575520
If you're trying to rebuild your childhood collection after 2020 your wallet is fucked.

Vintage prices have skyrocketed to absurdity they make modern cards look cheap.
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>>59575382
For gaijins they're kinda rare, especially for ones in good condition now a days.
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>>59575436
>EX
>middle school
You're like mid to late 20. You zoomers have such a fucked image of age.
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>>59575382
They're the first exclusive cards bought en masse by gaijins the moment they step foot in Japan.

Mandarake, all those cards shops in Akihabara and Ikebukuro, etc.
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Is buying cards packs, blisters, and "special' products still hard for you guys? It has gotten slightly better for me but it's nowhere how it was in early 2024. Buying in the pandemic was easier.
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>>59575246
Cool hs deoxys. I recognise the art from an eng set or something but didn't know the jp version was so rare.
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>>59575311
all of the pokemon snap comp cards are extremely limited. 10-20 copies of each given to the winners only.
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>>59575525
>>59575533
Whatever the case, they’re set cards, and not even rares (as far as rarity symbols are concerned). I’m asking about cards with low print numbers, something more like the Fan Club promos
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>>59575565
never mind, i'm retarded
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hey guys is the money from scalping good?
My local corner store has a full shelf o' 'mon cards
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>>59575562
Thanks anon! The English ones you recognize are from the set Call of Legends, which was a special set that came at the end of the HGSS era.

Japan didn't have this set (kinda like the Legendary Collection from years prior), but they did have a special lottery for the Shiny cards mentioned in my previous post. Raikou, Entei, Suicune, Ho-oh, and Lugia were limited to 1000 copies each. Then later another drawing was held for the second set, and 5000 copies of each Groudon, Kyogre, Rayquaza, Dialga, Palkia, and Deoxys were released.

Pic related: I have a couple of the English shiny cards, too.
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>>59575530
I know, I even get a bad back sometimes
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>>59575246
That is pretty cool. Is it really that limited? I would expect a higher market price but 2-14k is still high.
How did you get it?
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>>59575140
I'm not sure how to quantify rarest. By graded pop numbers, I guess this Murkrow would be one of mine though I'm not actually sure if it would be considered rare.
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>>59575558
I always prefer getting bundles that come wtih promo cards because at least I know I'm getting something out of it.
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>>59575589
>My local corner store has a full shelf o' 'mon cards
Only if they're Ascended Heroes, Phantasmal Flames or Destined Rivals.
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>>59575697
Thanks anon.
All the written records I can find on these cards state that they are that rare, yes.
Two waves of lotteries:
>First wave had 1000 copies of each Raikou, Entei, Suicune, Ho-oh, and Lugia.
>Second wave had 5000 copies of each Groudon, Kyogre, Rayquaza, Dialga, Palkia, and Deoxys

As for their value, I think it's just because they aren't that known/desired yet compared to the other main chase cards from other eras. In English, the Call of Legend Shiny cards are more rare than Gold Stars -- due to low print runs and CoL being a special set and not a main set. But since the Shiny Legend cards are not as desired right now, their price is no where near the price of the Gold Stars.

The Japanese SL cards are many times more rare than the english counterparts, but are still just waiting for their demand too rise. Supply is super low, just not that many people care for them yet. Same thing with many of the big chase cards from the gen4 era of cards. Eventually they'll skyrocket like everything else, though.

As for how I got the Deoxys card, I just won it at auction a couple years back for like ~$100, lololol. I love Deoxys, and so I'll try and grab any copies of its cards that I can.
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Please stop posting niche literal who cards, and only post youtube thumbnail $ ding cards inside PSA slabs from now on, thanks.
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>>59575818
>Please stop posting niche literal who cards
I don't. I only post shiny RR and higher cards.
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>>59575818
Fug off.
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how much is your collectr portfolio?
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Shame there isn't a hobby board for just collecting things. But it is crabsinabucketchan, where one upping is thought to be a good thing.
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>>59574971
This one was my jam
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>>59575818
>>59575140
Probably these two. Torchic and the rest of the WB set are ~5000 each, and the eevee wouldn't be more than 1000.
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>>59575140
It is kind of cheating since it is a specific stamped card, but I would say this Worlds promo card I bought off of some kid that placed pretty high in the tournament and had one to spare. There wasn't anything else but the TCG at the time and spread off three age divisions, there should only be about a little over 100 of these carss given out.
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>>59575705
It was a magazine release, so probably pretty well printed. Pretty obscure (and cool) card nonetheless. I can’t recall, is it glossy or no?
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>>59576317
It's not. I think only the only old promos that were glossy were the Coro Coro ones.
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My first card please rate. I know I overpaid, but I love it.

They opened a weeb store at the mall and it was kind of on impulse.
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>>59576534
>I know I overpaid, but I love it.
How much?

That card is a playable, how did you even manage to overpay?
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>>59576534
I pulled one of these when I opened the packs it's pretty nice
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>>59576534
Pretty gay, anon! Not only is it modernslop, it’s not even a pokemon (and it’s a mid waifu to boot)! Talk about starting out on the wrong foot.
Glad you like it though!
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>>59576124
I'm seething with jealousy. I've loved those wb comp promos since I was a kid
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>>59576771
don't say the word foot you'll activate the chinese misty bot
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I looked at my cards more when they were in toploaders......
binders are antisoul.
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>>59576771
What a weird thing to say about best girl
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>still buying physical
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>>59576986
Perfect fit sleeves
Decent penny sleeves
Toploader
Toploader binder

Standing toploaders fuck up your cards long term
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>>59576986
Book form factor hurts your soul you only look at things in the phone format?
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Saito Naoki has quadruple betrayed us...
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>>59575926
idk like 3
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>>59577453
>>59577456
Holy SOVL
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all binderbros report
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>>59577269
>literally a card in a card
>phone format
Zoomers can not imaging a world before smartphones.
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>>59577606
>can not imaging
most eloquent bottomloader
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>>59577883
>he cant imagining
Sad!
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>>59577456
>Pikablu
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>>59577468
>charmander
>charmeleon
>kingler
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>>59578090
everyone knows charmeleon evolves into kingler, anon
learn your lore
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>>59577346
Naoki saito started off his career illustrating for duel masters. Please dont talk bullshit if you dont know anything.
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I'm fucking tired of everything being about flexing. You're telling me this shit deserves to be $27K because only 4 copies of it were made?
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>>59577468
Binderfriend reporting in
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>>59578361
phoarrr! Now that's a spread
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>>59578311
Well, it is a popular anime.
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>>59578434
Here are some haphazard promos
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>>59578526
And two pages of 1st Ed Base
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>>59578544
I know WOTC 1st eds have always been expensive but I'm irked that even the non-1st eds on these Base Set/Jungle/Fossil/etc. cards are now $3-$5 each.
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>>59578558
those are shadowless
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>>59578622
Wrong thread, retard
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>>59578622
You're in the right thread
I cared
I asked
:)
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>>59578622
>>59578636
fuck off virtual tuber amoeba. /a/ has a buyfag thread you can be a stupid tastelet in.
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melty
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>>59578668
You're obnoxious and enjoy being obnoxious. It's just gay, that's all. You couldn't comprehend it if you tried.
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>>59578684
damn that looks shit
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>>59578668
You’re posting a bunch of off-topic gay, retarded kissless virgin shit.
Please stick to the on-topic kissless virgin shit.
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>>59578709
Mods made it clear that off-topic is totally ok when I reported off-topic posts and got a 3 day ban for false reporting. Even deleted my posts calling them out but kept the off-topic garbage.
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>>59578684
Some cool cards there. Notably the Trainer Certification Card and the ukiyo-e pikachu.
I should have bought the stamp collection years ago. I collect ukiyoe-e, and I’m fond of Hiroshige, so I still don’t really know why I didn’t. I think I wanted a complete set, stamps and all, but there was some bullshit prohibition on selling stamps overseas or something, so I just kept putting it off.
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>>59578684
Marketingchu is beyond foul, but I see and respect your inclusion of Klara.
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>>59578732
Not his photo obviously
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>>59578735
Whycome it’s obvious
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>>59578746
Spider sense
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>>59578151
Nah, it evolves into Chartrio.
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>>59578622
DorkRyS
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wholesome mail
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thoughts?
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hi bros, i saw this pic, obviously its about the wow collection but you can notice he has a hisuan typhlosion at the top there, it's graded, obviously has it on display

if i wanted to display a card, and it wasn't graded, just in a toploader and on a stand or something, would that be cool or lame? feels like only graded cards would get that level of respect from the average non-collector

do any of you display your cards similar to this? if yes any advice would be appreciated
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>>59579514
Get a magnet loader
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>>59579514
People who display their cards like that are people who collect funko pops
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Double the Zinnia double the fug ):DD
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>>59579524
For UV protection, right?

>>59579564
Good eyes anon.
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>>59579407
Holy friends
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>>59579514
a non-collector will not give a fuck if it's a slab or a magnet loader
they won't even notice the difference and either won't think about it at all or think lesser of you for collecting children's toys.
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>>59579514
Graded moderns are really astounding. This typhlosion is a $1-3 card, but if you encase it in plastic, telling you what you already know about it (it’s modern and hence, practically by definition, pack fresh) suddenly it’s a $20 card. Or if it’s a 10, it’s now $75.
Who pays 1) to have this sort of bulk graded, or 2) a ludicrous 550-2600% markup for graded modern bulk? Oh what a world, what a world!
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>>59579514
Collection displays are to be set up how to ensure you enjoy looking at it. What kind of weak willed loser sets their displays up so that other people can enjoy them?
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Wow these SR...suck dick. I wanted a cool illustration of Mega Malamar. Not this ugly 3D slop
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>>59579407
Huh, not gonna lie bros, I don't remember Volkner being my friend...
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>>59580185
He's not *your* friend, he's Cynthia's "friend".
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Will they ever bring the chinese cubone SR to english?
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>>59580422
Very unlikely. At best, it might get released in the Thai or Indonesian sets, like the Lisia card.
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>>59578684
This pic is old and stolen!
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>>59580422
No, the chink market is more important than trash like tpci, enjoy your next limited 100 copies chinese pikachu
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>>59580609
A bit too modernsloppy for my tastes
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>>59580740
My unc vintage is in the other binder
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>>59580824
Post unc cards pls
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>>59580855
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>>59580874
I need the unc-est cards you have

No, that’s too unc
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>>59580874
My trans gf has this set complete, I dont get why people like these non pokemon tcg cards. I see them like those shitty ass topps cards
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>>59581031
I only like Pikachu from that set because he still has his white tummy design. It's just so cute, dunno why they decided to drop it.
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>>59581031
>I see them like those shitty ass topps cards
They basically are only Japanese. The TCG legitimizes the cards, even if no one plays it.
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>>59580824
I like this one better

>>59580874
Very cool
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Almost dun with my Dunsparce collection.
Now I only need the Yuka Morii e-reader Dunsparce :^(
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>>59575140
masaki alakazam probably
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>>59581540
Based dunsparce enjoyer.
Good god, though, I didn’t realize Skyridge commons could sell for 50 bucks. Beyond fucked
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>>59581646
No one cared about Skyridge/Aquapolis/E-reader shit

They were also the least printed out of all WOTC sets, there's more Black Star Promos and Southern Islands out there
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>>59581653
I know the e-readers were printed far less, but $50 ($70 for some) commons seems ludicrous.
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>>59581660
In a parallel universe, TPCi opens up multiple new factories whose job is to print Base Set-Sword/Shield cards to the ground while their main production line focuses on SV and present day sets

Same old cards, no present year or special markings, indistinguishable to near mint cards
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>>59581660
they were very cheap for nearly two decades. Shoulda coulda woulda
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>>59581694
Mercifully, I own pretty well all the e-reader cards I want.
Should’ve bought the charmeleon in reverse, but it’s not one of my favourites anyway.
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>>59581722
Also love this fellow
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bro you're basically set anyway. Sell a couple dupes if you've got em and fill the gaps.
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>>59581736
meant for
>>59581722
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>>59581736
>>59581740
That’s a good idea. I have dupes of a good deal of them non-reverse. I only need four e-series reverse foils to finish the set
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>>59581670
Why are you so obsessed with this?
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>>59581834
I want old vintage bulks to go as low as <$1 and Charizards and older "chase" cards at a few hundred

Also to fuck scalpers, investors
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>>59581839
You just come off as poor.
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Why did these generic mid LA asian foids show up on my frontpage?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8va_biwNOU
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>>59581939
>better advertise them on /tcc/ with some gay off topic reaction image
fuck off retard
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>>59581939
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>>59582004
she's chopped as well but atleast she has a personality. the other 3 are generic copy pasted boba whores.
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>>59582022
>>59582004
>>59581939
Poorfags who have no cards must resort to zoomer tiktok jake paul gossip creator slop.
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>>59580609
I have that tentacool card in english. I really love it, especially since I randomly pulled it instead of hunting it as a single. Also the seal card though it doesnt look as shiny
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>>59582033
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>>59582132
Thanks for confirming my suspicions.
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PKMN Center took my money. My 30th pre-order is being sent. We're so back
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>>59582362
Thanks for the free cards loser
>t. FedEx courier
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waow i wonder why 30th is being delayed
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Majority of the anniversary set is revealed and wow this shit looks underwhelming as fuck
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>buy packs for a ~1/7 chance of RR or higher
>buy bundles just for the promo cards
It ain't an easy life.
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>>59582488
I hope they learned their lesson and never do simultaneous releases again. Westoids dont deserve nice things.
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>>59582875
I hope they do simultaneous releases for every set, so Americans will cannibalize their English stash first, instead of draining the jap release and then also the eng release.
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>>59582875
>>59582911
I just wish people would control themselves. This insatiable lust for cards that drives all this behavior is revolting.
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>>59582875
I don't think it matters in this case, that shit got leaked 2+ months in advance. They just have to actually sue the whatnot subhumans
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These meowth IRs are CUTE
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>>59579409
>hey anon, I let your little cousins play with your porkeymon cards whilst you were at college, I knew you wouldn’t mind since they’re for kids
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>>59582875
Simultaneous release is great, TPCi just needs to bring the full wrath of Nintendo on leakers and sellers.

The moment faggots get 10+ year prison sentences is the moment leaking stops. It worked for the hacking scene and the fag who leaked the Dynamax/Gigantamax Pokemon.

Firing half or all of the factory workers also helps.
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Found these 1999 WotC booster packs. Both look like long stem. weighed them on a digital scale:>Fossil (Zapdos): 21.7g>Base Set (Charizard): 21.0g
Here is the video of weighing them:
https://youtube.com/shorts/O9tSmOS1Zr0?si=YqSmpmFmaDVaoRzF

How much are these heavy packs worth right now? Any advice?
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I want it
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>>59583194
these 30th cards will be scalped to hell and back
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how do I stop myself from buying overpriced cardboard I'll only look at for a minute or two before never picking up my binder again until the next card
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I was at the local toy store picking packs and the clerk was like >hey check out this new surprise pack with a random GRADED card
and I was like, yeah I'm good.
>>59583199
because of the stamp? I don't care about that stuff but IRs are always nice to have.
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>>59583260
>because of the stamp?
because it's pokemon's 30th anni set
there's already a ton of stolen product out there ending up with streamers and e-whores
the most hyped set in this decade, far beyond what the 25th and 151 got
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>>59583199
singles actually wont be that expensive besides the usual suspects, the pull rates are good
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>>59583273
>the pull rates are good
(lol
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>>59577468
small binder but it makes me happy
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>>59583385
that page costs more than most modern collections
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>>59583386
I wish it weren't so. even though I profited a bit from the new boom, I don't like investorbros and won't sell these until it's a collector's market again so never
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>>59583286
Its like 3x the rate of a normal set
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>>59583402
>Its like 3x the rate of a normal set
You don't know that until the millions of these products end up in the hands of Whatnot rippers, scalpers who ordered hundreds from distros and big box store monkeys.

Normal people wouldn't get theirs at MSRP until early next year.
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>>59574971
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>>59583422
very nice. the gym challenge and heroes set are some of the coolest cards they've made imo
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>>59583422
Get that graded, if the back is clean it's an easy PSA 8-9
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>>59583440
There's next to no price change from a near mint raw card to a PSA 8.
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>>59583385
Based imakuni enjoyer.
Fun note for Porygon enjoyers: imakuni has illustrated a number of Porygon cards, including the OG base set and also the illustrious Fan Club Porygon
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>>59583559
I always assumed they were cr cg gangs. Cool.
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>>59583440
Why would i want PSA to steal my card?
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singles im gunna be buyan
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>>59583634
PSA only steals actual high value cards, they don't care about regular Charizarderinos.

They already have all the Charizards they'll ever need to liquidate.
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>>59583412
ok...? we're talking about singles here. whatnot niggas only care about the top chases, 99% of the singles are still going to be cheap because of the boosted pull rates.
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>>59583844
Allocations and stocks in my shithole are abysmal, is buying singles cheaper?

I want that Magikarp and at least one UPC of the other kind to open.
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>>59582761
maybe if you don't like pokemon cards? those IR and SAR are nice.
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>>59583848
It's just gambling vs buying stuff you actually like
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>>59583844
>>59583194
The stamp completely ruins what would have otherwise been nice cards.
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>>59584135
i'm gonna camouflage over the stamps with acrylic paint
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>>59583844
How much do you think will a complete 30th anniversary Pikachu set will be?
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>>59583520
There is for vintage.
But it's still soulless to do so, regardless.

>>59583440 sounds like a basedfaced scrub. "Get that card graded bro! What do you mean you aren't grading that, don't you like money? It increases its value despite it being the exact same card it was 10 minutes earlier!"
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>>59584306
>There is for vintage.
>But it's still soulless to do so, regardless.
Go look at what a raw NM Unlimited Blaines Charizard is selling vs a PSA 8. It's like barely $100 and the grading will cost you $70.
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Grading is for low IQ subhumans

Real chads double sleeve + toploader + toploader binder; double sleeve + magnetic case only is also acceptable
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Complain about grading all you want. But every single person who bought and held vintage/mid era slabs from grades 8-10 made life changing money.
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>>59584160
Depends how much they can print the set. I imagine a full set of Pikachus could easily be $100. I doubt there will be any uneven distribution in packs, but some versions are bound to be more popular than others. Even if there's one guaranteed in every pack, that's a minimum of 30 packs for a full set.
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>the 30th classic collection can only be found as a single pack in the $180 MSRP UPC
>everything else you can find in other 30th anniversary products
Zzzzzz
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*ahem*

NEVER GRADE

*cums away*
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>>59584431
why would I care what a (((grading company)))) thinks about my cards?
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>>59584402
The pack in the UPC guarantees 3 hits, its not the only way to get them.
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>>59584402
We've known the construction of the packs for months, stop being retarded. It's 1 Pikachu, 3 main set cards then the rare which can be any of the secret rares, illustration rares or classic collection.
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>>59584431
>>59584435
truth nuke!
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>>59584135
lmao get fucked
The stamps are great and make the set what it is. It could mayyyyybe be slightly smaller. But there should be a stamp there. And the pikachu stamp the west gets is better than the numbered stamp that japan gets.

Cope and seethe.
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>>59584393
>it's all about the money!
Again, soulless.
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I sometimes feel like this hobby isn't for me. I feel like communities obsessively talk about opening packs, like it's a life necessity to spend at least MSRP cause they HAVE to open packs and they will spam F5 on a website for hours just to get a chance to get a box that they will open and 90% of the times be disappointed.

And then everyone seems to talk about grading and I just see it as the most retarded waste of money ever. Like you are hyped to throw your money at some third party companies that even charge extra for certain cards when they get a certain grade, and people are fine with this. I don't get the appeal.
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>>59584933
It's a gambling addiction
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Even though I don't like Umbreon, the 30th anniversary card with the fireworks looks great. Shame it's gonna be like 900 dollars.
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>>59584990
it's a promo so it won't be that expensive
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>>59584933
Having this attitude is money saving. I also just buy singles I like the look of, opening packs is just gambling and grading feels like a scam. However sometimes lower graded cards are much cheaper, so it’s nice to get them for my collection binder and destroy the cursed slab with a bottle opener lol
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>>59584135
It is pretty big and stupid looking, definitely makes the really nice cards like the IRs look goofy.
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>>59583135
good!
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>>59584933
The cards I kept from childhood weren't very rare or had many fakes so they only hold sentimental value. Only had one which fetched 4 figs.

So it doesn't really matter to me whether I buy cards and get them graded and sell one day, those are not memorable to me in the slightest. They either serve nice art or make money, but nothing more than a transactional relationship with them.
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Have two zygarde boxes tomorrow, hope I get something decent.
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>>59585082
Good luck, anon. Post anything good you get.
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>>59584933
People like you are just as annoying to be honest.
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>>59583194
if they made a version without the ugly ass stamp I'd pay double
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>>59583194
>>59585555
Yeah. I'm liking a lot of the art but the stamps and the pissgold borders just ruin it for me
At least it leaves me more money to spend on older sets. Might just go and get the original crystal lugia instead
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>>59584912
Imagine having this much shit taste. Do not ever (You) me again. You are beneath me, not even human and most likely brown.
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>>59585689
>garish stamp lazily slapped on gorgeous artwork is le good because... um... le 30th!!
you're literal mindless cattle lol
bet you love futuristic rares because tpci said they were cool too
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>>59585931
It's good because it delineates the reprint from the original. If you want the card without the stamp go get the original.
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>>59586120
there is no original for most of the cards in the set
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>>59586120
evolutions had almost identical reprints aside from small design choices like font and layout, the major indicator was the symbol in the corner of the card. should have done it like that desu
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>>59586144
Evolution reprints look nothing like original base set cards, are you blind?
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>>59586144
>evolutions had almost identical reprints
???
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>RGB rares were a hoax and not present in the set list
>likely planted by tpci itself to snuff out the thieves
holy based...
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>>59585595
>pissgold
Do you genuinely think of piss any time you see the colour yellow?
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>>59586283
Finally getting some of these cards as they’ve always meant to be: with yellow borders!
Incredible how much better the Magikarp or tag team look
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>>59586363
No? Do you?
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>>59586155
>>59586212
I must have remembered this wrong, the layout does look very different. they still don't have an ugly fucking stamp on it!
I do understand people who say they like it though, it's just a bad taste thing really
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I was having lunch and I heard an old guy unironically pronounce it "pokey-man cards"
Had me a chuckle
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>>59578177
What a strange, immature response to something that's obviously facetious.
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>>59586283
Did Pokemon ever send Nintendo lawyers and ninjas to thieves and leakers?
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>>59578684
For such a nice glass case those $5 vendor stands sure look like shit.
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Where's the god damn Ansha card already?
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>>59586283
not to be racist, but this dude looks like mickey rooney doing yellow face
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>>59586416
No, and as a result, I don’t think “piss” when I see yellow on, say, a pokemon card.
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>>59586433
>no ugly stamp
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>>59586622
Then why are you projecting always seeing piss when you see yellow on to others?
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>>59586627
I can be disingenuous too anon, but like I said it's a question of taste. I personally think it looks fucking hideous
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the piss slinging will end now
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>>59585931
The mindless cattle would be liking the stamp. You're a masterclass of projection. A case study.
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>>59585931
>"The stamps are great"
>'"Imagine having this much shit taste"
>garish stamp lazily slapped on gorgeous artwork is le good
Or you just incredibly bad reading comprehension.
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>>59574971
So let me get this straight, if I send in a card to get PSA graded, and it turns out to be worth like $1K, they'll charge me a fat percentage of that to get my card back?
Or am I completely misunderstanding this shit
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>>59586792
They'll replace or lose your card then stonewall you with legal mumbo jumbo until you hire a lawyer, then you get your full refund but not your card back
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>>59586792
grading a card always costs the same, idk if they give discounts if you submit more at a time though. when it gets a high grade there's a chance some faggot on ebay will overpay for the card
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>>59586806
Then why do I see talk of them upcharging you if your card is more valuable than you claim it is when sending it in?
Like how am I supposed to know it's value if I haven't had it graded yet? That's the whole point of sending it in.
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>>59586792
You are paying PSA to hold your card hostage until you pay a ransom yes.
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>>59586872
so why is this information so ignored/obfuscated? I'd understand if it was just rich psychopaths and streamers doing it but tons of people in the hobby on average joe budgets are getting cards graded
how the fuck do people have hundreds of dollars to spend on PSA gradings?
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>>59586886
"Average Joes" get fucked by pyramid schemes all the time anon
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>>59586886
Americans are richer than everyone else on average.

Prior to PSA filling up to the brim grading is actually cheap especially if you send a ton of bulk cards.

Your expensive PSA 10 only gets withheld if it passes through a certain grade/price threshold in that case you pay for the PSA good goy fee, that is if they don't outright steal/damage it and fuck you over.
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>>59586800
Surely they’re not going to do this for $1000
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>>59586638
You're the one who called it “pissgold” you retard.
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>>59586854
>Then why do I see talk of them upcharging you if your card is more valuable than you claim it is when sending it in?
probably misinfo, you pay the grading fee before sending your cards and they do the work
>Like how am I supposed to know it's value if I haven't had it graded yet? That's the whole point of sending it in.
nigga have you heard of supply and demand yet? PSA doesn't dictate the price, they just needlessly inflate it. it's a third party that some people give a crap about, everyone else doesn't give a shit
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>>59586792
Its unbelievable that PSA has lasted this long as a company. How is this legal?
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Looks like the JP box will have an improved hits to make it comparable to the EN.

>4 AR
>2 classic collection
>1 SAR
>1 Future Rare

All in 20 packs, which is crazy.
Loose packs might be valuable since there is no way they can metal scan it, but might be weighable since SAR and Futuristic Rare is, from what I've seen, comes with a double hit pack with either an AR or classic collection.
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>>59587344
PSA is the gold standard in grading, many sports uncs have millions poured into them ensuring they'll never die.

What TPCi can do is dole out god packs in every merchandise and print every set to the ground as much as they possibly can. Only then scalpers, investorchuds and gradiots will get kicked out from the hobby.
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>>59587546
Which would completely kill the entire TCG. Stop seething just because you're poor.
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I mentioned i bought some Love Live boxes a few days ago. Just finished opening them all.
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>>59587477
Making the JP comparable to EN would mean lowering the hit rate.
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>>59587582
No because from the last special set we only get 3 AR, 1 SR or above and 1 MAR or above.
When I saw the EN early hit rates I am worried that they will keep it the same as they always do which would actually makes it worse than EN.
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>>59587570
>Which would completely kill the entire TCG.
It won't, it will kill scalping, investing and grading which Pokemon TCG doesn't need.
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>>59587660
Yes it will because theres already been many examples of media, including TCGs, doing that and then interest completely tanked. The game and the collecting aspects of the Pokemon TCG are in symbiosis with each other, probably more than any other TCG ever.
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>>59587645
>3AR, 1SR, 1MAR
what EN product in a comparable price range (MSRP) has hit rates like that? for the Japanese MSRP of a booster box you are lucky to pull more than an EX in English.
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>>59587749
Were talking about 30th anon, and 30th hit rate for EN is very, very fucking good. Unprecedented even.
1/7 got IR, 1/20 for SIR and 1/17 for futuristic rare based on the early rips.
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>>59587728
No, the TCG doesn't need this kind of hype and visibility, you sound like one of those people who only collect if other people collect, i.e. mainstream hype cattle. Or you are only in for the money.
Just because interest in the TCG tanked in the past, like in the mid 2010s, it doesn't mean there weren't any collectors.TPC did a lot of neat collaborations in that era, and you could chase a lot of exclusives without worrying too much about prices, and without chinks and mexicans botting your shit away.
Imagine TPC releasing mario pikachu today, or the charizard XY promo in the illustration magazine, or the first rocket case with jessie/james and giovanni promos, or another van gogh pika. People would stab each other in shops. So now we can't have nice things anymore, the only collabs in the last years are very few, and they don't do full illustrations anymore (yet the mcdonald pika was still a shameful display of inhumanity).
The TCG does not need mainstream visibility, does not need youtubers, does not need grading and investing. If you like pokemon cardboard you collect it even when boxes are moldy on the shelves and no one talks about the hobby. Else, you can join the cattle and pay $20k for a card that you could have had for $20 if you cared about your personal collection 10 years ago when no one was hyping the hobby and telling you what to buy to be part of the crew.
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>>59587905
that is still much worse than the hits you get from previous Japanese sets compared to the cost of the boxes
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>>59587909
All those words just to say you're poor.
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>>59587940
I accept your concession, although it's still shitposting.
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>>59587909
Absolutely nobody wants cards worth 20 cents.
'Collect' Yugioh if that is what you're looking for.
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>>59587964
>he wasn't collecting when cards were 20 cents
damn you missed out
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>>59587952
We get it man, you're poor.
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>>59587923
Who the fuck bring up the cost? We've been talking about PER PACKS hit rate. Not whatever scalpers price you're paying per box.
And this guarantee fucking hit rates is the best it ever been, full stop.
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>>59588096
because the per pack hitrate comparison is retarded when when one English pack is $5 MSRP and one Japanese Pack is 1,50
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>>59588104
All I did is bring up a my own personal sigh of relief that JP guarantee box hit rate has been increased to match the EN increased hit rate.

EN always have shitty hit rates and I am glad they keep that way.
Never cared about EN, never will and yer deserve it.
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Guys I pulled a hyper ultra secret rare from 30th.
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>>59587923
Trvke, sshhhh
Let the brown sperg
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>>59575245
Theme Decks were commonly stocked everywhere up through XY you fool. Early ones were good because you got a guaranteed foil, it only got stupid when you'd be stuck with a theme deck exclusive non-holo card during like EX times. For BW cards, the cover card would have an exclusive foil pattern in the deck, for example the Plasma Freeze decks gave a cracked ice pattern, so some of them are pretty cool.
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>Dude Pokemon TCG is so cool it gives obscure shitmons a chance to have really nice cards!!
>my favorite and his evo have like 4 cards in 20+ years and all the art looks the same

Also
Will 30th singles plummet in price almost immediately like happened to Celebrations? I want the new cards in Japanese but the classics in English
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looking at pkmnTCG r*ddit is so entertaining, people are so stupid.
"how do I collect", "how do I arrange", asking basic-ass questions for the simplest things, why don't you do what you want? God it's infuriating
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>>59575245
>or went low IQ Haymaker decks
I remember my first encounter with Haymaker. Was at some jank tournament at a mall where there werent any brackets and you just challenged people to a match until you got 2 losses. After a few matches I was the youngest kid still in and a way older teenager came straight to me and challenged me. I was pretty confident that this guy was underestimating me just because I was younger but he steamrolled me with just Hitmonchan. Had no clue how good that card was and it made me question what was even the point of 2nd and 3rd stages. It was the first time I ever experienced a meta.
/blog
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I've taken a liking to reverse holos, way better than I/ARs
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Going to my first card show tomorrow, after mostly just buying locally, at generic conventions or online, are they usually absolutely mental? Hoping to find picrel for a nice price but probably won’t lel
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>at a show, doing a bigger trade
>see vendor has a base set pack
>signed by jason paige
> "how much"
>"50% of market since no one wants it"
>get it
>erase his autograph with a dry erase marker
>profit
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>>59588955
Lel, but anon don’t you know he’s the voice of a generation!
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>>59588922
Some card vendors are assholes some are nice people
Some are scalpers who bought a table, some are investorchuds who bought a table, some are PSA idiots who bought a table, some are real collectors
The only thing that matters are their prices, if they're above 80% and aren't willing to haggle/negotiate you can skip their table

Obvious red flags are tables with only graded cards, tables with only le chase cards, tables that don't have binders, bulk boxes at above $1, vintage bulks above $3 each, tables that 100%+ prices on their stickers, the seller is a Jewtuber, the seller is pretty hot for a cardshow (OFthot) and even showing her cleavage/booba, seller only sells Japanese/non-English cards
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>>59588955
kekker paige is a fag
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>people claiming 30th rates are "good"
I doubt it. in any case, if I get this pikachu and some of the others im happy.
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>>59588955
Doesn't he sign on the cards directly?
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>>59589020
I'm in the Discordtroon of those bots scalping online product, if you didn't preorder a case from distros you're shit out of luck.

Pokemon Center has cancelled a bajillion scalper orders including a few legit ones.

According to these scalpers the UPC is a miss outside of the promo cards, ETBs are only worth it if you're master setting but very low hits and the hits are in the smaller sets and booster bundles.
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>>59589024
I managed to get a 2 etb preorder in, in july and my card has a pending charge. the one time I ever managed to beat bots on that site, reading this thread saying "queue up" and trying to use the site at 12pm and it worked.

I am assuming rates will be low. But, each pack has a pikachu so hopefully I get most of the good ones and maybe some cool stuff like the jirachi or the lapras illustration with the psyduck. but who knows.
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>>59589033
Ebay and Pokemon had the one chance to nuke a handful of scalpers and thieves who were selling 30th anniversary yet they only deleted their listings and didn't ban their Ebay accounts including the payment methods attached to it.

All these scalpers who had stolen product off the distro/transit line will just hold off their cards and resell them again at the appropriate release date.

Mastering the Pikachu set will be overpriced like those starter collection.
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>>59589024
>preorder from distros
How the fuck do you even do this
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>>59589040
god is the 30th just fucked
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>>59589042
Have tons of shekels, distros don't care who is buying.

I'm also in a Discordtroon bot where you can order thousands of product from Walmart, Target, etc.

I've seen one faggot who claimed he ordered 7000 Ascended Heroes ETBs from Walmart alone.
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>>59588971
>>59589016
Exactly.

>>59589021
Yeah, but he signed just the pack. Pack itself is still sealed and untampered with aside from his stupid signature. Vendor even showed me the PoV video he took of getting Paige to sign it back from a show in 2023.
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>>59589046
sounds like pokemon was right to let him go immediately, fame got to his head far harder than either of ash's voice actors
you will never see veronica taylor or that cynthia looking russian actress mooching off the pokemon franchise despite being the literal voice of it
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>>59589044
>god is the 30th just fucked
It's the most hyped set since Prismatic, 151 and the 25th anniversary.

It looks like it'll be printed on the ground and you'll get a ton of product next year while the scalpers move on to Delta Reign and whatever comes next.

These scalpers only care about the classic and 'future' hits, they don't even care about the other SIRs.
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>>59589048
I once got a signed card from Veronica Taylor, she was really pleasant and down to earth. No fucking clue what I did with it though, but it was really nice to have met her.
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>>59588976
Thanks for the advice, I’ll take it to heart anon. I’m only buying a graded slab if it’s cheaper than raw so I can destroy it for the card inside that my binder craves. Why avoid non-English card sellers in particular, though?
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>>59589065
> Why avoid non-English card sellers in particular, though
I assume it's harder to move/sell
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>>59589065
I've met and dealt with the two biggest card show Jewtubers IRL, Coop and the Mexican guy with glasses; they're actually nice IRL and aren't Jews.

Ignore the generic LAsian foids, they're using their homely/girl next door and non-OF threatening appearance to outkike you with pricing. They'll usually have OP and Gundam cards lying around as well.

>>59589065
>Why avoid non-English card sellers in particular, though?
They're usually investorchuds, guys who go to Japan and buy card at "low" prices then sell it for higher because they paid for a plane ticket, etc.
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>>59589042
Cases cost slightly less than MSRP, only do this for ETBs, small packs and booster bundles/boxes.

UPCs are cheaper to acquire this way but you're going to pay a ton for shipping since they're heavier than the rest.
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>tfw your bro will never get a nice card
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Has the market crashed yet?
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>>59589309
>Has the market crashed yet?
Never, it'll go up even further with 30th anniversary and Fug with Delta Reign :)
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>>59589309
Give it two more weeks.
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>>59577468
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>>59589461
Peak soul

Sleeve and toploader those starter evos though



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