Why don't we see the same comradery between Gens 6 & 7 like we do with Gens 4 & 5?
Gen 5 & 6 should be paired DesU
>>59576533haha 6 and 7
>>595765336 and 7 are only "good" in that they make you remember what you lost. They're mediocre otherwise.
>>59576533Because Kalos and Alola had completely different goals for their designs, while Sinnoh and Unova more or less were in the same wavelength.Kalos was a celebration of past Pokemon games. The focus was not on new Pokemon, but seeing old Pokemon in a new dimension.Alola wasn’t even about the Pokemon. It was a narrative experience about a group of children growing up and going on an adventure.Alola even takes potshots at Kalos with out it portrays megas as this evil thing you don’t want to do (instead, try our new Z Moves!), so the animosity was built in
>>59576533well OP, surely it's because the Sun & Moon kids just aren't old enough to use the computer, I mean what, they must have only just hit middle school by now.
>>59576533>unovafags try to link gen 5 to good games thread #310Why would 5 go with 4 and 6 go with 7 when 5 and 6 are two of the most similar gens in the entire series?
>>59576643gee it's a real mystery, anyone have any ideas what connects 4 & 5, anyone? nothing?
>>59576652>gets his retardation pointed out>vaguepost cries about itlmao
>>59576657except that its incredibly obvious what links the 2 gens together (same console, 2d sprite battles, etc.) and you will forever be in the 0.1% of fans who refuse to make this connection.
>>59576665Hundreds of ds games have 2d sprite based graphics. You graphicsfags are so stupid.
>>59576533gens 5 and 7 carry my love for this series
>>59576533probably because they're good games on their own so they don't need to coattail ride like gen 5 does
>>59576533>comradery between Gens 4 & 5Gen 4 was the canon end of the classic series and as a Sinnoh fan, we don't want anything to do with Unovabortions>>59576535>>59576643>>59576657>>59576675>>59576685Based
>>59576533I liked gen 3 for the side games, gen 5 being the best sprite gen for competitive (reusable TMs and reworked exp is awesome) and I like gen 6 for megas. Gen 7 felt like it didn't add enough, and more or less actually took away good things from gen 6 (super training). gen 4 is slow, boring, lacks the improvements gen 5 has, and all that on top of having the most fag coded side game in the series (mystery dungeon explorers of trooning out)
>>59576745Based tranny obsesser
>>59576643>>59576685>>59576722you do know samefagging is against the rules?
>>59576815>doesn't know what samefagging is>doesn't know the rules of /vp/
>>59576572>they make you remember what you lost.???? gen 6 gave life to the franchise again, after casual faggots like you hated gen 5.Gen 7 has the best setting, best side characters and one of the best stories in the entire franchise.
>>59576815>everyone that doesn't dick suck gen 5 is the same personGet new material.
>>59576599>Sun & Moon kids just aren't old enoughlol holy unc post
>>59576815find a better coping mechanism
Real answer, XY suffered because of Sun and Moon being pushed out, then USUM were a massive let-down and people wondered why we got nothing for a Z game for gen 6 when Zygarde was lazily shoehorned into Sun and Moon. Also gen 4's dppt is a really bad set of games. If I'm going to lump games together it'd be 3 & 5 for being interesting with more new pokemon than old
>>59576910>uncYou must be 18 to post here, iPad kid
>>59576929>Real answer, XY suffered because of Sun and Moon being pushed outno it didn't
>>59576929>Also gen 4's dppt is a really bad set of gamesHow so? It undeniably brought a lot of great things. Evolutions and physical/special split were very much needed. At the very least, maybe some exception for Platinum?
>>59576533Unironically I think it's just the artstyle change.Let's not kid ourselves, people group Gen 4 and 5 together not because of some strong unifying design decision but simply because they were when the 2D pokemon sprites hit their peak popularity. Gen 5 leans more on 3D assets and varying camera angles but not enough for most people to feel the difference.By contrast the disconnect in style between Gen 6 and Gen 7 is super obvious and as a result it feels wrong to treat them as 1 big era of Pokemon. The gameplay differences probably don't help but I think if SuMo looked like XY most people would be willing to group them together.
>>595765333d era was bad from the start, there's no room for camaraderie when you're already miserable.
>>59576594>Because Kalos and Alola had completely different goals for their designs/thread, look up any youtube video where people discuss pokemon games and they praise Gens 4 & 5 for the exact same reason, the only fray is when people really don't like Unova PokemonBy contrast a person who loves the gameplay of Gen 6 might feel totally dissatisfied with Gen 7 and vise versa.
Gen 6 is when they really started leaning heavily into real world similarities, Gen 5, while obviously New York to the point where it's surprising nobody has ever called out the mild racism of Scraggy didn't go full into "New York, baby" as Gen 6 went full "Excusez-moi, monsieur, mais combattons avec des Pokémon?" And what are you supposed to do with Hawaii anyway? It's far away from everything.Wind and Waves will probably be California
>>59577009I mean, if the design goals were awful, does it matter if it was intentionally different?
>>59577016Didn't the Teraleak have something saying that WW's region was based on Indonesia?
>>59577016>Wind and Waves will probably be CaliforniaPretty much already confirmed to be Southeast Asia (Indonesia, etc.) but Greece would've been cooler IMO
>>59576533Because SM is very different from the rest of the franchise. Also, a lot of people view XY as where everything went wrong.
>>59577018i dont think either gen was doomed from the start, XY are pretty fun if not a little flat sometimes and I think if they had a few more cities and new pokemon like they planned it'd would've been hard to deny it was a successful titleSuMo are rougher in comparison, the whole game feels like im on a guided tour, even after the credits roll i never shake the feeling that im in some kind of resort rather than mostly untamed tropical islands. USUM in theory gave us an Alola more complete than Kalos ever was, and yet XY still feel like the fuller Pokemon adventure to me.Mega Evolution would've been a pretty good through line for the 3DS era but obviously they needed a new gimmick to put on the back of the box instead.
>>59577000>3d era was badno it wasn’t
>>59577039very good and respectful points. However, have you considered the fact I have had sexual intercourse with your mother?
>>59577016>Gen 5, while obviously New York to the point where it's surprising nobody has ever called out the mild racism of Scraggy didn't go full into "New York, baby"The Unova direction was perfect in my opinion, they used New York as a rough template (Castelia, Nimbasa, the emphasis on bridges, etc.) without letting it tie them down, even NYC itself was split between the two aforementioned cities.Then they peppered in fantasy locales that I would've expected to see in something like Dragon Quest and not Pokemon: Chargestone Cave, Dragonspiral Tower, N's Castle. It made for a region that undeniably had real world inspiration, but also had enough room to feel interesting.
>>59577016>Gen 6 is when [thing that obviously started in gen 5]stale cope
>>59576951Nigga, Sun and Moon suffered from Sun and Moon getting pushed out>>59576953The game engine was horrid for Diamond and Pearl. The battles were slow and HP ticks were horrendous to sit through. Sinnoh has terrible pokemon diversity (fire types anyone?). Many of the evolutions were not needed and contributed to the terrible pokemon diversity. Sure the physical/special split makes sense, and Platinum was an improvement, but when you look at how lazy the story was, how it was basically just Gen 3's story with different legendaries and a worse bad guy, the over-saturation of legend and mythical pokemon, events that were never given out, and the copy-paste job they pulled with battle facilities, and it's just a mess of a gen. That being said, I do love Sinnoh as a region, it's just hard for me to go back to it. I like the stat split, I like some of the events we did get, the tie-in with HGSSBDSP got a lot of crap but at least it fixed some of the core problems
>>59576929>gen 4's dppt is a really bad set of gamesMe when I lie.
>>59577016>mild racism of ScraggyNot everything in life is wacist. Referencing African-American culture isn't racist, especially when it wasn't done to mock.
>>59577039>i never shake the feeling that im in some kind of resort rather than mostly untamed tropical islandsThis. So much this. The world of pokemon had a consistent message that you couldn't leave town if you didn't have pokemon with you. It really felt like the wilds were dangerous and you were going on an adventure.I never could quite put my finger on SM's issues beyond the cutscene overload but that's it. The whole region felt like a guided tour. A safe guided tour.
