A thread dedicated specifically to Shoddy Battle (I didn't use Netbattle or whatever)That UIThe way turns instantaneously occurIs it soulful?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExfVf-3F8wI
>>59588966>91 viewsFuck off OP
>>59588974lol
>>59588966It was beautifulI also played a bit of Pokemon OnlineBut the majority of my time was spent on Shoddy Battle I think
I remember this and some other shit. I also played diamond and pearl wifi battles on the website gamebattles on ds before plat came out
>91 views
>>59589121who cares, i just scrolled deep on the search results to find an authentically old vid
online or not?
>>59589171online of course?
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>>59589121Not everyone can be algorithm bait
>>59589638What algorithm existed back then
nobody cares faggot, use showdown
>>59588974this video is from 18 years agothat's probably older than you
>>59589762There was actually an algorithm at the time. Abusing it was literally half the business model of the reply girl.
>>59588966Shoddy...vgh...home...
>>59590538lol you’re mad
would it be possible to host an instance of this for the lols?
>>59590918Probably? I’d like to see thatDon’t think it would be too hard
>>59590918i really wanna see this along with AIM being brought back (I wasnt an msn kid)
>>59588966I have fond memories running a Shoddy server. Good times. Also really fucking obnoxious to deal with abuse, you had like zero moderation tools.
>>59591122got any stories, sounds interesting
>>59588966>shoddy battleHoly soulhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm8eLVZ6dFo
>>59590918will you try to
>>59588966amazing seeing a time with salamence legal
>>59588966It’s beautiful in its simplicity
We need to go back
Using Showdown just isn't the same
>>59588966Can someone try to bring this back in some capacityWould be cool to have an old school /vp/ community
I just found out about "porygon's big show"have any of you fags ever heard of this? don't lie. I think I used shoddy battle, and possibly netbattle or something before showdown came out. I think one of them was during gen 3 but I don't remember.
>>59595474I’ve never heard of this do you have any screenshots of it
Let’s keep this thread up and start sharing some old school memories
>>59588966I remember Shoddy being treated as the arrival of the antichrist back then when it started replacing NetBattleGood times
>>59596540What made people despise it, just cause it was new?
>>59596541You said it, it was new
Man it would honestly be kinda cool to host something like a sort of nostalgia LARPSomeone runs a Shoddy Battle server where nothing is banned and overtime with votes a new meta could develop
>>59596743That does sound rather cool but I’m not sure if you can even run shoddy anymore
>>59596798You could probably mod Showdown to make it run and look like shoddy battleI think showdown is open source
>>59596743that sounds awesome desu
>>59596743If I didn't have like 6 programming projects and an Anki deck in the works, I'd gladly donate my expertise. That said, Shoddy battle is very much Java based. It's not that hard to decompile Java, especially Java 6. One could probably very easily reverse engineer ShoddyBattle's server.
>>59598079I've got good news: You don't even need to reverse engineer it. It was open sourced a while ago.https://github.com/cathyjf/PokemonLabhttps://github.com/cathyjf/PokemonLabClient
>>59588966>instantYou can get the same thing disabling effects on showdown, can you not?
>>59598151You can, yes
>>59598130Oh coolwell this isn’t my forte at allBut if any anons out there wanna try a shoddy revival feel free
This has reminded me there’s also a website that attempts to look like old YouTube names BitViewIdk how active people are on it though
>>59598696oh yeah that exists
I remember the first time I played net battle I made a team of all electrodes with explosion and thought I was actually going to troll because I was a total retard and just lost trying to win somehow by only exploding which is like impossible
>>59599401Not really the same thing, but, I really vividly remember using a lot of dragon dance feraligatr and thinking it was the coolest concept everidk why
>>59598696Bitview's semi-active. So is VidLii, though I haven't been active on there for a very long time. I found KamTape recently, they seem cool.I want to make a 4chan-specific videosharing site that's LIKE old YouTube, but not really old YouTube. Would anyone even bother with something like that?>>59599401I had a team full of legendaries.I lost to a singular Dragonite.
>>59599766Well what exactly would be 4chan specific about it? More like a /jp/ centric youtube?
>>59599880Yeah, I didn't think this through all the way. My initial idea boiled down to "what if I made all of the same features as YouTube but didn't steal YouTube site design and applied 4chan's rules?"What I could do is take more elements from chans though. Video categories could be presented in board fashion, with each non-response video treated as a thread. You could post without an account, but with heavy restrictions and it'd be purged when the thread dies. Responses could sage the thread, helping kill it faster(or a board could require an age to bump.) You can sign up for an account, allowing you to retain control of video and probably maintaining its existence for longer, easing the restrictions, and also not assigning a username to the public side of video, so you could still add your own name field with trip if you really wanted.Its still half baked but the idea sounds a lot more interesting now that I've thought of adding more chan elements to the typical videosharing formula.
>>59590548>91 views and still fishing for views 18 years later
Bump
>>59600042Hmmm seems toughVideos are by nature more of a consumption based thing than a discussion based thing so I think trying to replicate Chan culture would be hard
Don’t want this thread to die until a project actually starts being in the works
>>59600707That's true. Maybe I'll stick to the original plan of "old YouTube features replicated but not YouTube's stolen pages," and just have the extra feature of "you can replace your username on your comments and video with a name field." And advertise it exclusively on 4chan :P>>59600722You might be waiting a bit.
>>59601132Perhaps we could make a projects or old gen / internet thread going forward
>>59601172Maybe. The old internet thing sounds interesting but uh... there's not really a good board for it. /v/ had some of the best threads years ago, but they got banned for obvious reasons.The projects thread can either go in rheg or the fanworks thread, and the oldgen thread sounds interesting but that relies on people playing the fucking games.
>>59601276I meant it could stay here, just old school pokemon discussion with adjacent topics
>>59601449I suppose.Took a look at the source code finally. It's kind of a mess in there. There are what appear to be SEVERAL entry points and I am wondering if they are JUnit related.I've got a zip file for anyone interested in the next 3 days. It's a full environment to get this working. Good luck. https://limewire.com/d/u4WSu#R105nvBaY0
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>>59602854And going
who are some old pokemon youtubers you guys remember watching?super skarmory? mariland?
>>59604250I don't remember the channel name, but the guy's in-game name was 'Fer'. I remember being disillusioned because he eventually bought a microphone and when he talked he sounded exactly like Fez from That 70s Show and I couldn't take him seriously anymore. Eventually I was able to upgrade from a clapped out GBA to a DS and stopped watching LPs because I could just play myself.
>>59604564I forgot That 70s Show had a shit load of reruns in the 2000s. Jesus man.>>59604250He's kind of the newest end of "old Youtubers" in general, but MissingnoXpert had a fun series that was just all about glitches you could perform. His videos are unlisted but you can still find them in the playlists on his channel.
the memories
PO's aesthetic was perfect. Being able to make your own themes and download other people's was fucking sweet
>>59605199Yeah I agree, despite being mostly a Shoddy guy, PO had a great lookI wish Showdown was more customizable, or maybe it is and I am just unaware
bump
>>59605121Jesus Christ the memories indeedSuch a simple UI
Why don't modern Pokemon battle sims appeal in the same way that Pokemon Online and Shoddy do anyways?>>59604684>shit load of rerunsIt was still being produced in the 2000s. I thought it was a show made in the 80s and ended production in the 90s. My bad.
I have uncovered something I will not be sharing in interest of trying to keep this thread clean.What I will complain about is that I cannot seem to access the SourceForge source code-or the original jars hosted on SourceForge. This "Cathy" individual has earned my ire for providing me a fucking shit website that doesn't actually fucking work, that absolute jerkwad. I may have to email them about this and I really don't want to.
I couldn't connect but I did spot this server, which is baffling.You know, we could just make our own battler...
>>59607468I suppose we could lol>>59607393What is someone being a bitch and hiding info?
So, Shoddy bros, shall we continue making threads after this
>>59591034MSN Messenger was extremely sovlfvl, AIM was cheap shit with ads all over.
>>59607667>I suppose we couldDo you want to, is the question. This wouldn't have any of the nostalgia attached, even if we fashioned in the same aesthetic as like Shoddy Battle or something.>is someone being a bitch I'll say that one of the devs did some controversial politicial activism and put THAT as the first achievement on their website. It's as if they're more proud about their political impact of their home country than any of their programming projects, which would explain why Shoddy Battle's SourceForge and website has been left in such a severely degraded state, making it seemingly impossible to obtain the original versions of SB and its source code. The Git version we've got appears to be Shoddy Battle 2.Any more about them and I risk derailing the thread. I highly advise you don't look into it yourself because it'll probably make you just as autistically upset as me.>>59608311MSN had ads too. A bit more minimized, but ads.I miss both to be honest. I like that older style of chat program. I wish we had a newer chat program that had a bunch of QoL enhancements while still being that kind of a program.
They released Shoddy 2, then it just disappeared, what was up with that
>>59608352idk about MSN but you can still use AIM to this day, fairly easily
>>59608566MSN is available through Escargot. That said, MSN has a number of problems that make it not ideal today, hence why I said I wish there was a modern program.
>>59608454That's a good question. It probably lies in dying motivation, and Smogon preferring to run Showdown over a Shoddy Battle successor. I don't know what exactly happened to cause Smogon to move away from Shoddy though.
>>59610072Pokemon online was just the superior option I think? And then eventually that led to showdown
>>59610072IIRC shoddy didn't have gen 5 support, and the PO devs (who were independent from smogon) had it first so smogon's playerbase just migrated there and made their own server
>>59610423Huh. That would explain it.I kind of forgot Online was used before Showdown.
>>59608261I don't think we'll see much success. There's probably like... 6 people here, total.
>>59612311Good enoughDoesn’t have to start hugeThere’s gotta be enough nostalgiafags out there
>>59605277Showdown just being a webpage means it's extremely customizable with CSS.
>>59612627Interesting Could a noob just vibe code it with Claude
>>59612668Probably? I've vibecoded userscripts in the past, but nothing to the level of a visual overhaul.
>>59612668Just learn CSS man. Shit's not that hard to learn. Wrangling it can be painful at times, but so would be the AI you're using.
