Black and White are released in Japan 16 years ago today! What are your thoughts about these best games?
>>59602639God I love the limited 3D they use for this game, it's so charming.
>>59602639Where can I farm berries?
i still believe in ghetsis
>>59602672to be honest, the heavy reliance of the 3D world does make it look a little worse than diamond and pearl. With DPPT, it was a sprite world with some limited 3D, while BW uses an entirely 3D world which makes the game look much more aged than it should beBut also, game freak fixed the back sprites in this generation, which very big pokemon especially loved. Go look at Salamence's sprite between gen 4 and gen 5. In gen 5, you can see his full body, tail, wings, the full monster that it is. And in gen 4 you get the N E C K which always looked silly. Another terrible gen 4 backsprite is Togekiss.Im not sure why the backsprites arent more commented on, since theyre how you usually see your Pokemon and it always bothered me that big pokemon in previous generations had such aura losses when you saw their back sides in battle
>>59602739Here's a visual example of what im talking about so you don't have to go look this up on bulbapedia
pretty shit game, but b2w2 did everything it possibly could to make it into a game that's at least half-decent
>>59602639Still the best mainline game, 16 years later. We got more focus on the worldbuilding and characterization from Gen IV while getting rid of all of the clunk from that Gen, a full brand new Pokedex and a plot that's almost perfect.
>>59602639Absolute dogshit and its refusal to let a single non gen 5 mon into the maingame caused the huge overcorrection into blatant kanto shilling via trash special form gimmickslop we have today. Fuck these games for existing.
>>59602639It’s fine. Gen with the worst fan and hater base tho
>>59602639Great games. Fuck what the haters think.Especially those who missed out on Pokekino and are eternally seething about it to this berry day.
>>59602702Dream World
>>59602639I like them.
>>59602639Gen 4.5. Instead of creating these gapfiller games while working on gen 6 they should have focused all their resources into making these the first 3ds games so we didnt get two halfassed games instead of one decent one.
>>59602639Im of the opinion that people who unironically hate on these games are either contrarians, people from /v/ who shill for gen 4 and probably haven't even played or cared about the games since they were kids anyway, or people who were raped into the opinion of it being bad when it first came out and haven't changed their minds. Especially shit like >>59603506gen 6 is the most underbaked and boring generation ever, and ORAS is a shit stain on RSE's reputation. It also set the standard for everything that followed after with the slight exception of gen 7. I'm really not sure how you could unironically defend it when it paved the way for SwSh, even worse games later on. And the "but it only allows new pokemon!" argument is bullshit too. no matter what game was your first, every pokemon was new to you at the time when you first started playing. That's what these games were, discovery all over again. honestly not sure why people get butthurt over it, they act like they knew every pokemon before they even started playing the games, which just isnt true
>>59602639KINO BASED
>>59602639I want to fuck N
I miss the vibe of this generation. The futuristic UI, the black/white checker pattern, the somber tone, etc.. It had a bit of a shonen vibe to it similar to Yugioh 5Ds. But also like 5Ds, it was hated by disgruntled old fans before it became beloved by the general fanbase.
>>59603211Gas station girl.
>>59602639>all these based BW truthersWhere the fuck were all of you every time these games got shit on for the past decade?>inb4 I-I hated them at first but they grew on me!!Also post your favorite Unova mons, fags
>>59603586>Im of the opinion that people who unironically hate on these games are either contrarians, people from /v/ who shill for gen 4 and probably haven't even played or cared about the games since they were kids anyway, or people who were raped into the opinion of it being bad when it first came out and haven't changed their mindsor people who like explorationor people who like difficultyor people who like good graphicsor people who like good writing
>>59606078good thing gen 5 has all of those things then, eh kojo!
>>59602672Looks terrible
>>59606069I was on the frontlines fighting. But at some point, I realized that you just gotta ignore the ones that are clearly trolling/attention seeking, no matter what. I've been through many trolls on this board(the infamous Yawnfag, Discordfags, Shartyfags) and I realized that any discussion on whether Gen 5 is good or not is utterly meaningless. Now, there's apparently a new schizo name Kojo and I've even seen him on X hating on Unova, but I've never care to engage with him at all.
>>59606078>he's looking for good writing and difficulty in a pokemon game
>>59606150gen 5 games are objectively good though. Every game since gen 2 has been improving on the Pokemon formula ever since. I feel like most of the hate just comes from gen alpha who grew up with the 3D games and have to find excuses to defend their shitty cash grabs
>>59604787>futuristic UIlmaoo
>>59602755yeah, I'd say all pokemon games are mid overall, the amount of those blinded by noStAlgIa is insane
>>59602672>gotta install microwave ovens, custom kitchen deliverie-eee-eeeee-ees
>>59602769Least delusional BW fan.
>>59606151That thing is so very ugly.
>>59604787>somber toneDPPt did it better. And the games from gens 1 and 2 did it even better without even trying.
>>59602702sIPPITY BIPPY
>>59610012Nothing really somber about DPPT other than the music.
B&W nearly killed the franchise until XY saved it again.
BW kept the momentum Gen 4 had in terms of quality before XY killed the series
>>59604787you mean they are both the designated zoomer gens that their now grown up zoomer audiences now shill for everywhere
>>59610172this
>>59603586>people who were raped into the opinion of it being bad when it first came out and haven't changed their mindsbasically this. It's herd mentality. They adopted the opinion of the masses at the time instead of forming their own, and once opinion had shifted, they refused to understand why (because they're also incapable of changing mentally. Not specific to people that hate on gen 5, but there's a lot of people who have one opinion their whole life because theyre mentally underdeveloped and are often childish/whiny). These people never had opinions in the first place, they just conformed to the masses and always have. They're NPCs pretending to be le based chuds. Just ignore them
>>59603586>>59611734>herd mentality is necessary to be annoyed by N or disgusted by SamurottCopium overdose.
>>59602745you'd be surprised to know that a lot of the Anons here prefer the static neck sprites like the left's
>>59602672looks so good
>>59611734>lil zoom zoom borty calling anyone else "mentally underdeveloped"
>>59611751>you'd be surprised to know that a lot of the Anons here prefer non-Gen V spritesnobody should be
>>59611762ttar looks like a turbo retard from the back in gen 3 and 4
>>59611770No. And the Gen5 sprite is still EASILY the worst.
>>59611759>zoomer victim blaming straight from /v/it's called millennial writing for a reason sweaty, not zoomer writing
>>59611804>zoomers can't even make sensical postsgrim
>>59611770zoomers don't even try these days with their copes
>>59602702Thief and Compound Eyes
>>59611759i always say this when i see people whining about zoomers on /v/, but remember that the generation was fucked over because the liberal side of millennials majorly groomed them to troon out. cant exactly blame zoomers for everything when it was our own generation that did the damage to them in the first place. i wish people would stop with the ad hominems and actually argue like adults but i dont know what i expect when /v/ is filled with the equivalent of reddit manchildern with the only difference being they say slurs
>59611762now post the animated full sprite
>>59612604Why didn't YOU do it?
>>59612694Because he won't, and it's about time he learned what accountability was.
bump
>>59614365¿For what purpose?
>>59611965what does that have to do with them thinking/pretending BW is good?