I tried, I imagined various scenario with Ash & Serena for a good anime. But whenever I put Misty/Dawn on Serena's place , it gets 10 times better. Amourshipping just doesn't generate the charm that Ash & Misty did on MPM episode 02.
>>59608500Nobody cares about your dogshit SI fantasies, Fagmon. Seek employment.
>Misty/Dawnweird way of typing May
>ESL-tier of errors>Throw in the fixation on the episode into the archivehttps://arch.b4k.dev/vp/search/text/Mpm%2002/Certified cringe.
>>59608500Maybe its childhood goggles but Ash and Misty just makes the most sense to me. Mainly because she stuck with Ash through his worst (brash cocky hot headed self) whereas Serena was into some gay fanfic tier version of Ash.Also another reason is that I see Ash as a Kanto kid and it would be fitting for him to have a Kantonian girlfriend
>>59608526>Same nonsense going on for over four yearsLmao, OP is a faggot.
>>59608515Pokeshipper scared the writers so hard that they pushed her toward Drew to calm them down. Now her VA has terminal throat disease so new writers can't do anything.
>>59608500TRVKE
>>59608536Serena's only actual advantage was her bust but now that we know Misty set to develop bust as big as Zinnia as 15 year old, Serena no longer has any actual advantage. All Misty needs is just an actually good hairstyle & clothes to completely mog Serena. If anything , Misty is completely held back by that garbage that SM artstyle & HGSS shoved on her.
>>59608500Give me a reason why Serena should win against Misty.
i can't imagine something more pathetic than being a shipperfag
>>59608515Literally zero attraction toward Ash
>>59608500> First Lead girl of the show> Nostalgia > Easily recognizable> Fun personality. > Fun dynamic with Ash and his companion. > Better shipping moments with Ash. > Actually made Ash self conscious > Red hair> Green eyes> Set to develop the largest tits among all the lead girls> Good battler & has a Mega Gyarados > She & Ash are classic couple from millennium era > Pikachu adores herThe only flaw Misty actually has is her crappy hairstyle & clothes, both of which can be easily solve. While Serena needs her entire character to be rewritten and develop tits as big as Zinnia to compete with Misty. Her only advantage is that she can develop a mole underneath her lips due to XY's character customization option and people develop moles in random place until they are 40.
Not big on shipping but after watching Kanto and Johto I hit the conclusion that Misty was intentionally kept away from Serena because it is a CONSISTENT character trait for her to get aggro towards ANY girl who shows even the slightest romantic interest in Ash. I feel like the writers didn't want to stir the pot and cause a shipping war so Misty and Serena never meet or interact even though they are literally two of the most important female companions with Misty having the most episodic appearances out of all of them and Serena being the designated love interest.
>>59611529Shipping can make an anime fun when it written in correct way like Ranma and Akane. Unfortunately Amoursgipping was handled by people who think NaruHina to be the standard for anime couples.
>>59608500I did a rewatch of OG Kanto and Johto and I am 1000% certain that it is only nostalgia why anyone ships Ash and Misty. They have almost zero romantic chemistry. Jessie and Misty IRL would come off as crazy and prone to anger. Obviously, nobody would gaf about applying IRL standards to cartoon characters; we like dysfunctional dynamics like the Simpsons or Looney Toons cause it's harmless and fun to watch. But other than it being 'fun' or 'funny', there's basically zero reason to think stupid childish boy + crazy angry girl is obviously the best ship.Now, considering that people grew up on this as a weekly show, I'd imagine that there's a lot of time for people's minds to fill in the gaps and make up any fake romantic tension. But watching it all in < 2 months it's pretty clear that there's basically nothing there.I haven't gotten to a Kalos rewatch but I saw it while it was still going on and remember enjoying the character interactions. Serena getting angry at Ash being a POS that one time was pretty sad to see.>>59611309>biggest boobsWhat? May canonically has the biggest cannons
>>59608500Ash is a fagoot that didn't end with any girl and fucked his Pikachu in the ass
>>59608563>fourMore like ten, this dude has been shitting his pants over Serena practically since she first appeared
>>59613959>I am 1000% certain that it is only nostalgia why anyone ships Ash and MistyIt is. That and dub rewrites. There's a reason it's almost exclusively westfags that dropped the show before she left that ship it.
>>59608500I just watched MPM 2 subbed. Idk what you're going off of man. The ending where she shyly asks to join him? The whole episode they're just ribbing each other like old friends. I never watched Journeys so idk about her interactions there, but in the OG series the closest you get is stuff like "Misty you're not pretty" of Misty yelling at Ash. Hell, the beginning of the episode, Pikachu plays a dumb friendly prank on Ash, but when does this even happen in the OG series or how often? It was a cute episode. I enjoyed the interaction between Ash, Pikachu, Misty, Psyduck, and the water pokes. I wish Team Rocket actually got something to eat, or at least the protags gave them something to eat before they BTFO. But none of this is what I'd call "romantic banter". Now unless someone has an XY episode (other than the final kissing episode) for me to watch where Ash x Serena have great romantic chemistry, I'm not gonna make any claim that Serena is better. Good friends, sure; romantic, none. You'd need to make a damn better argument to be convincingHe didn't even use her lure! Hell, he could've been lamenting that Cilan's lure sucked balls so he swapped to a Misty lure, and then the reveal happens in the end to show he actually cared about her gift.
>>59616002He didn't switch to the lure because he was teasing her about being indifferent towards it and her in general. We know he cares about Misty's lure because he was worried when he lost it in the DP episode in the only instance that he ever used it. The writers had tons of little callbacks like that scattered throughout the episode. And the ending where Misty asked to join Ash was standard tsundere behavior. The writers included it to make it blatantly obvious that her crush on Ash is still a thing.
Not OP, not that you'll admit it, but let the meme die already. OP isn't a faggot, (you) are. There are two kinds of men in this world: those who ship Ash with anyone but Misty, and actual people.
>>59616002>I never watched Journeys so idk about her interactions thereShe wasn't in it.
>>59615147Tell that to people who didn't checked the Japanese version.
>>59616339Actual people ship Ash with Misty???
The biggest weakness of Amourshipping is that it doesn't actually make a good story. Anybody can see that from all the Amoursgipping fan comics which are extremely cringe and has an out-of-character Ash nothing like the one people loved. While people actually felt that old Ash had returned on MPM episode 02 simply due to his interaction with Misty. Most important things about romantic plot is its ability to make a good story. Pokeshipping and Pearlshipping has that ability but Amourshipping lacks it.
>>59610082Actually at first, I thought May might developing some sort of crush on Ash due to the way she used her damaged bike as an excuse to make Ash travel with her.
Even Ash and Iris would make a better couple than Ash and Serena.
>>59614599/thread
>>59614599You do know that he is just a child?
>>59614599kek this>>59620591>just a childThis has not stopped anyone, just see this thread
>>59620874>This has not stopped anyoneIt stopped the show's writers.
>>59608500Ash, Misty, Brock, Dawn, Iris,, TRio , Lana, Cilan, Gary, Barry, Cassy, Simon, Snap, Giselle, Morrison,, Paul can make Pokemon anime as exciting as DanDaDan without the ero part. The only reason current anime went downhill because the anime kept trying to shove boring uninteresting OC instead capitalizing on actual characters that can make the show actually better & even altering Ash's actual personality to fit him with boring characters. .
>>59613959>>biggest boobs>What? May canonically has the biggest cannonsWrong , you are probably referring to Advanced series however almost every girl gets large bust on that series due to its rushed drawing and not just May so it was never canon. Just look at anime Roxanne and how busty she is compare to her game counterpart. Canonwise, HGSS Misty is set to develop the largest bust out of all Ash's female companion, at least as big as Zinnia. None of Ash's female companion aren't confirmed to develop bust as big as her yet.
>>59608500
>>59624415>Needs AIslop of his own MS paint barbie edits to keep his circlejerk thread aliveOP? A giant hobo.
Dead shippings
>>59608500eww trashnime
Honestly Ash ending up with a woman that has a rack as big as this and mole underneath her lips would be enough to make all the normal fans happy even if she turns out to be a random woman appearing at the last moment. The problem are hardcore shippers who won't accept anybody over their girl & those like me who wants a fun interesting story.
>>59608500>ship wars in 2026Seek employment faggot
>>59628606At least ship war kept /padt/ going unlike current /padt/ which is a dead wasteland,
>>59608500charlie kirk x serena
>>59628977Lol and lmao, literally /dg/, /ss/ and /padt/ have provided documentation on your seething ass getting anons banned for not even sucking up to your fanfic crap, Fagmon. Do what that guy said and get a job you useless leech of a human being.
F*m*n is almost 40 years old btw
>>59628977>dead wastelandBlame horizons for being a shit series
>>59631269Everyone just moved to /a/.
>>59631321/a/ thread is also a barren wasteland.
>>59608500TrAsh
>>59631269I blame the purge.
It's funny how Misty definitely has a crush on Ash in the japanese version (not according to Shudo, but he also did not write the episodes that aggressively suggested it, instead he had ASH oggle MISTY)But the dub went so fucking overboard shoving it down the viewers throat that you would think its a love story and not mild awkward tension you would expect between similarly aged boys and girls
Shipping is actually very important. Just look at the the finale of most shonen manga, people were more interested in whom MC ended up with rather than the final chapter itself. Heck when Horizons started, people were more hype about Liko being Ash's daughter & identity of her mother rather than the actual series and their hype died when Liko revealed to be unrelated to Ash.
Speaking from complete ignorance, I'd be really interested in the demo of Amourshippers. I suspect that those who would be most invested are those who are well past old enough to know the sort of TV show they're watching. Is it ALL Ash self-inserting?>>59634775Oh as an interest-driving tool absolutely. I imagine most of us understand WHY these things are set up the way they are.>>59621989>The anime could be better if it valued character writingIndeed!>>59622468Always done for an exaggerated bust gag with this version.
>>59634895>>The anime could be better if it valued character writing>IndeedAlmost all continuous long running anime remained long running by keeping all their characters. Only exception is Precure which follows the same formula in every series with new cute magical girls.
>>59635853And Yu-gi-oh and Beyblade and Aikatsu and Pretty series and Duel Masters and...
>>59635869None of them are long running as Pokémon, Yugioh shut down years ago.
>>59633872>But the dub went so fucking overboard shoving it down the viewers throat that you would think its a love story and not mild awkward tension you would expect between similarly aged boys and girlsI heard 4kids was also dubbing another show and heavily pushed a ship in it despite no shipping material being present in the original. Then when the original had the MC end up with someone completely different, it was really jarring from the dub's POV.>>59634895>Is it ALL Ash self-inserting?Not necessarily. A bit of it is also showwriter gospel/intentions.
Thing with Serena is that none of her feeling & personality feel genuine. Unlike previous lead girls that felt like an actual person, Serena constantly felt like ...................... FAKE.
I never cared about AshxMisty because as far as 10 year old me was concerned, Misty was mine.There are a couple choice moments in Johto hell, though.
>>59636316>I heard 4kids was also dubbing another show and heavily pushed a ship in it despite no shipping material being present in the original. Then when the original had the MC end up with someone completely different, it was really jarring from the dub's POV.This happened to Spider Riders and Digimon but they weren't dubbed by 4kids
>>59637314What about Bleach
>Ashmaggots constantly bring up non-Pokemon shows begging Pokemon to imitate it or derail into discussing non-Pokemon showsI remember when /vp/ used to nuke this retarded crap.
>>59637782The Bleach anime did this as a whole, inaccurately setting Rukia up as the love interest. It was not the dub
>>59611529>two of the most important female companionsThats Misty and Dawn
Ash is for Pikachu and Pikachu only, he doesn't care about any of the female companions
>>59628977>>59631269by all accounts horizons ended in April, all of this is just time stalling for next gen.>>59634775>Shipping is actually very importantshipping is for schizos
In order for Serena & Amourshipping to work in Anipoke, her entire character & her dynamic with Ash has to rewritten from scratch while Misty just needs a good hairstyle with better clothes since she already has better chemistry with Ash, nostalgia & large bust. Just slap similar bob hair as Kirie Kojima (Girl Bravo) on Misty and that would be enough for her to mog all the other girls with beauty mark.
>>59638116>by all accounts horizons ended in April, all of this is just time stalling for next gen.Which supposed to come out November of next year.
>>59608515May has Ashs moms voice in the dub which made it weird as fuck. Like hes journeying with his mom.
Dawn & Pearlshipping is the most profitable choice. Dawn's only flaw is that she is flat.
Ash is a fag
My boomer take is that Ash and Misty was more compelling because they were two clashing characters created at the start of the show. Serena did not exist until the show was fifteen years into its run and was prominent in a season which is bizarrely disconnected from the entire rest of the series. Misty continues to appear and be integrated in all of the surrounding series. On top of that, Ash's characterization had a major shift in XY making him much nicer and toning down his brash attitude. It was nice to se a mature side to him but due to BW coming immediately before this it was less of a development and felt more like a total rebrand of the character. I simply cannot look at the Satoshi from gens 1-4 and see him behind the eyes of the one in XY. So as a result I'm just not invested in who that character ends up with. His obliviousness to Serena also becomes forced after a while. At first it's a funny shonen trait, after a while it legitimately damages their dynamic in my eyes. Young boys are hardly immune to crushes and he was absolutely not this dense in the beginning of the show. There is literally an episode where Misty having a crush on another guy throws him off of his game. His character seems to have been watered down to the standard shonen trope, leaving Serena the more compelling of the two despite being created over a decade later. I just don't see the appeal beyond wanting to live in Ash's shoes and experience Serena. I don't want to be Ash.
Another issue is that all the romantic things that Amourshipper wants to see between Ash & Serena can not happen because pokemon is kids anime that airs on TV. Example : Serena hugging Ash like pic related. Even their "kiss" had to be offscreen. On the otherhand, Ash has amazing chemistry with Misty/Dawn so the anime doesn't need to put many romantic scene outside of lovers quarrel.
Oh hey, this thread is still alive. Anyway...AshxSerena is cancer.Why won't you let the meme die already?Why can't you just ship AshxMisty?What did I ever do to you?Are you too young to remember Misty, or have you accepted MattxSora so now you ship Ash with anyone else instead?You do know Misty and sora don't have to have everything in common, right?RIGHT?!>>59617213>Actual people ship Ash with Misty???Always have.
>>59636049And pokemon is shut down next year, thats good it’s not more long running
Serena won btwStay mad
You know how Yuyama went to work on "Puniru is a Cute Slime" and it become popular ? Well it has a girl named Mami Kirara as the MC's crush who seem like a prim proper lady unless she spots a child and tries to be their "mother" by spoiling them in an extreme way. Well, I am wondering what if this was Serena's character? She would act like a proper prim lady that every boy wants to marry but have a hidden crazy side whenever it comes to Ash due to her extreme affection toward him which is played as a joke.
he can't ruin a story with a source material. He's a competent animation director but he should never be near a script ever again
>>59643257>>59643279pokeshit is too sanitized and woke for it
All Dawn needs are large bust and similar hair/eyes color as the one from the right. She is the only lead girl that nailed being the co-protagonist, has one of the best chemistry with Ash, her Piplup is more marketable than any lead girl's pokemon & her Bunnary has crush on Pikachu. Dawn is nearly perfect except for her lack of bust. Its frustrating out of all the female protagonist, Dawn was the one Game-freak choose to make flat when all the girls before her has curvy figure which includes Kris while quiz book confirm adult Lyra to have largest rack. Sometimes I wish all the female protagonist on Pokemon shared same sized tits instead of one being superior while another being inferior.
>>59642944>Why won't you let the meme die already?>Why can't you just ship AshxMisty?Because Game-freak and OLM's idea of making Misty look tomboyish is basically just make her look like a trans instead of an actual tomboyish girl. We are talking about a girl with orange red hair, green eyes, good face and large bust like Zinnia so if both Game-freak & OLM still fails to make her one of the top 05 most beautiful girl then it means whoever in charge of Misty's design has no actual talent.
This is the best looking Misty btw.
Misty is the only popular pokegirl the rest literally who
>>59643767Not with that stupid trans hair And you need to stop defending it or else Game-freak will never give her an actual good design which is what Amourshippers want.
>>59644253Get off the fucking hentai bro. I like her arc suit, is that a crime?
>>59644290OP is a lolcow >>59608526Literally not worth wasting your braincells on his ass.
>>59644290>Get off the fucking hentai broIf that was true then I wouldn't have any problem with Serena. You can't seem to understand how sad Misty's situation is on Masters. She has only 3 alt , one of them basically her without the vest and another is arc suit which is her normal design with minor change. Her sygna suit is the only one that feels like an actual alt. It been 7 years yet Masters yet to give Misty an alt with her HGSS hair, basically acknowledging that her HGSS hairstyle so bad that it is not worth being an alt. Misty's fans need to speak up so Game-freak & OLM would finally start drawing Misty like a Tomboyish girl & not a trans.
>>59608500Its hilarious how Ash ended up with no one
My only problem with Serena is that Ash got lobotomized in XY. In the previous gens he actually reacted when people brought up romance stuff, even if it was to get annoyed or defend himself. In XY they basically just give him Goku brain and pretend he was always like ths. "It's Ash" no the fuck it isn't.
>>59645013He is just 10 year old. Asta from Black Clover didn't end up with anybody ether.
>>59645430>in XYIn BW you mean
>>59646961BW was character regression. XY felt like a new kid entirely. Ash was always a good boy but they amplified how nice he is and caked on all the shonen tropes even if they hadn't been there before.
Pokeshipping = Pearlshipping >> rest
>>59646963XY also avoids continuity references like the plague. It might as well have been a reboot
>>59646961>>59646963>>59646973Some reason I can imagine OS-DP Ash with similar annoying expression & aloof personality like Macho but I can't imagine XY-JN Ash that way because that Ash is too freaking nice & happy. In fact, I feel Ash with Macho's expression actually makes a more interesting show and probably would have made Amourshipping better if Serena was treated to be more emotionally mature than Ash & makes him behave properly.
>>59647010>Just copy non-Pokemon shit Kys Fagmon or get a job.
>>59645013
>>59647010Pre-XY Ash was legitimately an annoying kid in a realistic way and they sanded all of that down. I think it's just a natural consequence of running this series too fucking long. If he still acted like a snotty little shit it would get annoying, but the alternative they went with was just to get rid of all of his character
>>59647095>f he still acted like a snotty little shit it would get annoying,Not really as long as he is not as whiny and indecisive like Tai from Tri series. If anything Ash being snotty little brat actually makes him more realistic and probably would allow him to develop interesting dynamic with other character which was missing after BW series.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3J3WYk9yq80> Dawn " It would be fine, No need to worry > Ash : But if you don't > Dawn : No need to worry > Ash : Bu......> Dawn : NO NEED TO WORRY > Ash : This when I worry the most.Some time I can see DP Ash & Dawn's chemistry to be like Nukumizu and Anna despite Ash being completely different than Nukumizu. Almost as if Dawn's genkiness can sometimes make Ash look level-headed and mature.
How do you feels about AmeLiko being popular? It gets a lot of high quality fanart
Ash and Marnie was such a lost opportunity, she even had a Pika-clone as her starter. Almost as if Game-freak specifically made her for Ash.
>>59645013Well, yeah. He's 10.
>>59643257He didn't have anything to do with the story or characters though. It's based on a manga.
>>59648805More like Yuyama likes this type of gag stories which is why he never removed Team Rocket Trio & intended to keep Ash. His goal was probably to make Pokemon similar to gag anime like Puniru or Sgt Keroro.
>>59649588Yuyama is not even an important staff member in that show?
>>59649601Apparently he has not even touched it?? I think you got confused with another show (Punirunes). What the fuck
>>59647095Feels like this manga managed to nailed competent Ash's personality while also keep him snotty little brat with Red.
>>59649601>>59649618so the hobo was hallucinating again?so yea it's punirunes where Yuyama is working, a series with an even younger target audience than Pokémon. I guess that works for him
>>5964501325 years of shipping wars and it led to absolutely nothing kek, meanwhile other kid protagonists like him grew up and had families
>>59650206Its sad that we never gotten any girl like Natsumi as a love interest for Ash. The closest we ever gotten was Giselle and she appeared for only one episode. This is precisely why a girl like Diana Cavendish fits better as Ash's love interest, An intelligent snobby rich girl that constantly clashes with Ash due to their different believes like Akko & Diana but she starts to develop a secret crush on him. PS : Inazuma Eleven died the moment Endou was replaced to the point they had to use Time travel shenanigan to bring OG characters like Mark as teammate of new protagonist
>>59650206Endou is so fucking Based, he got the best Girl and she gave birth to the literal Jesus Christ of Football.
>>59650206>>59650330why the fuck for nips grown up woman = short hair? Her long hair was so sexo, now she's nerfed
The biggest problem with Amourshipping is that Ash & Serena were childhood friend with Serena already simping for Ash from the start. Regardless what some people say, childhood friend doesn't actually make a good & interesting couple outside of few case like Detective Conan .
The romance just doesn't fucking work with these ageless characters
>>59651397Who still uses "simping" in 2026?
>>59651665The homeless faggot called OP lmao.
Ash only loves Pikachu
>>59651637They do when writers know how to write.
>>59651637>>59652443if I'm honest I'm pretty sure Pokémon writers always had ideas and the suits blocked them. I mean, we actually know about Shudo's frustrated plans (even if some of them felt quite edgy). Horizons feels like suffering from the same, although at least they were allowed to execute an original storyline and finish it.But romance between children frozen in age ten was never going anywhere, why even teasing it for fucks sake. And the 40 year old hobo has to be very mindbroken to insist in it.
>>59652610And honestly, would anyone here really be interested in having a relationship with someone like anime Misty IRL? Different strokes for different folks of course. I just fail to understand why some people insist on having more toxic things in their life and in fiction?
>>59652610>But romance between children frozen in age ten was never going anywhere,It doesn't need to go anywhere as long as it makes the anime fun and dynamic enough to draw a lot of audience. People who want the characters to date and marry should watch actual romance anime. Ash and Misty able to do that with their playful banter and subtle romantic undertones which is why they work so much better than Amoursgipping.
>>59653349>OP loves being blueballedJust adding more shit to the list of nonsense then again, thats the way it is with homeless lolcows, isn't it?
>>59653349Read this fucking comment bro: >>59652630
>>59651943/thread all this shipping shit is pointless since Ash's story is done and he ended with no one
>>59652630>And honestly, would anyone here really be interested in having a relationship with someone like anime Misty IRL?Big boob, red hair, good face, all she has to do is lose the trans hair style for actual hairstyle. Also Misty is not toxic as she stopped physically attack people and most of the time she actually has a point for hitting people.
>>59608500Is there any way for Serena to have fun banter with Ash like Misty and Dawn?
>>59655124Probably. But I wouldn't want you writing it.
> https://m.youtube.com/shorts/br-PGj0ms0oFreaking Shizuka is more interesting than Serena.
>>59648790>if they were travel companions they would've been followed around by Team Rocket and YellSo much missed potential
>>59655684> Marnie's wish and desire to protect her hometown was fulfilled when she met & battled Ash. Funny how JN series already given an valid reason for Marnie to have a secret crush on Ash while he gets bullied by an overprotective Piers.. Nether the main story of HZ was good and nether Wonder Voyage good enough to carry the series for a year. TPC should just scrap Horizon and make a series about Ash, Marnie & two other quirky game characters living in a hotel and form their own "Team MZ" to help people in need.
After the serena fans sent death letters to the anime staff, romance in pokemon is dead and thats good
>>59655338How would've I wrote it?
>>59655744But that was Mistyfags
>>59655773You'd have it be nothing but tsundereslop. Go outside and get a job, you impotent dipshit.>>59655778Probably Pearlshippers too.
>>59655781>You'd have it be nothing but tsundereslopYou know freaking nothing as my plan is for Serena to become more playful, flirty & emotionally mature than Ash who openly flirt with Ash and doesn't hesitate to show her affection for him while also teasing him which would annoy Ash and make him uncomfortable since he has revert back to his original consistent personality from OS-DP series .The problem is , Ash & Serena just lacks the closeness that Ash shares with Misty & Dawn. Not to mention its a kodomo anime rather than a romcom so there are things writers can not do.
>>59655850You are a lost cause.
>>59655778lmao this amourfag cope.
>>59655850>my planNigga, who are YOU? You have nothing to say in the ashnime which btw, IS DEAD
> For years, I believe this girl was the intended heroine for Ash. > Waited years for her arrival while speculating her role and relationship with Ash.> Turns out she is just a random lass only in the opening because of a lyric involving skirt & Pikachu.Maybe OS series would've been better with a love triangle between Ash & Gary over her.
>>59656015>wins so hard OP is still shitting his pants 10 years after the fact
>>59656015Crazy that she got that and still ending up losing to Misty.
> https://x.com/thewaifuai/status/2109193234492850371> Appear as a snobby rich yet very intelligent girl from an aristocrat family that look down upon Ash for being "commoner" and lacing sudden manner.> Often insists that Ash won the Master Tournament because of luck & fluke. > She & Ash constantly clash over their belief & ideals. > but secretly she is actually a huge fan of Ash but because of her family's aristocratic value & teaching , she is forced to hide her admiration & pretend to look down upon him. > Her parents are as shitty as James's parent. You know, those guys who tried to lock their only son inside a dungeon and have him whipped by his abusive finance to mold into their idealize son for their rich society. > She has been brainwashed by her family into following their false virtue for years until she saw Ash battle in unexpected way & spark her change. > She actually wants to mold Ash into the same idealized person that her family would accept so she doesn't has to hide her feeling. > But she herself starts to change due to Ash & his friend's influence and starts to realize there is something seriously wrong with her parent's believe.> Especially after meeting Ash's mom and experienced actual parental affection that she never receive from her parents. > She decides to rebel and chance her family's way of thinking. This is how you write romantic subplot in kids anime.
>>59656154Time to change those pants, OP.
>>59656154Misty didn't win either, nobody won
>>59656154>Crazy that she got that and still ending up losing to Misty.^ thisthey straight up retconned Serena/Amour in JNlol
>>59656154The show was never going to ignore that Misty is the only girl most people care about, the amourjeets were always gonna get hit by the genwuntrain in the end.
>>59656346Nobody gives a shit about Misty except fags that stopped watching 20+ years ago, and they're not paying attention anyway.
>>59656350Unlike Serena, Misty only needs a minor change with the way anime draws her spiky hair. MPM has already shown how Misty still has better chemistry with Ash even after his personality shift.
>>59657508She WON
>>59643152Shippers lost. Ash ended up with nobody.Stay mad.
>>59657508those voters are so mad that she lost to Mistylmao
>>59657508those voters are so mad that she lost to Serenalmao
>>59658296Dawnfags?
>>59658307serenaschizos*
>>59656350They're clearly paying attention seeing as Misty is treated significantly better by the franchise than Serena is, who's basically a dead character at this point. Normies will always far outrank internet spergs in importance no matter how assmad you get about it.
>>59616247Oh wow, this thread is still alive. Anyway, not OP nor that anon (not that you would believe me because you're a faggot), but shut your ass up. You can't gaslight me into thinking Ash or Misty are going to marry anyone but each other.
>>59656034/thread
>>59658564There is a thing call "Forcing" and Anipoke has been doing this since BW series. I mean look at the pic, do you really think a professional character designer would draw a character this badly? Nope, its almost like they are purposefully drawing Misty look as badly as possible to discourage Pokeshipping.
>>59658620anon the exact opposite of what you're saying is true. the artists straight up gave her birthing hips in MPM, go back and see for yourself. it was even being pointed out on padt at the time when it was airing.
>>59656193just use Gary Oak for the tsundere role
>>59658645Nobody cares about birthing hip. >>59658651I am straight.
>>59658868>I am straight.but considering Ash didn't get with anyone, he might not bemaybe ash became asexual
>>59658895Ash being attracted to Giselle already proves that he like girls. The reason he didn't get with anybody because he is TEN and he never met another girl like Giselle.
>>59658895On the Original Japanese, Ash found the idea of Staryu's ability to have sex with both male & female pokemon to be disgusting.
the only girl ash liked was giselle lol the rest are fanfic shit
Lets be honest, the real reason you people wanted Ash to age is because you guys wanted more older and adult woman with a large bust as Ash's love interest but him being stuck as 10 year old meant all his love interest had to be 10 year old like him. All the other anime with no aging already has an older love interest like Future Shizuka from Doraemon or Ran from Detective Conan who canonically has large chest. That why Amourshippers cling to Serena because she is older in the game. Too bad that HGSS Misty mogged her in the chest area. Amourshippers just hope Serena to be 14 year old as the Teraleak mention therefore she has time to catch up 15 year old HGSS Misty.Hopefully her mother is big enough influence her gene.
