OK I understand>Removing sexual things>Removing violence/death/gore/horror>Removing problematic/mature subjects. And I understand localizing names.I can also possibly try to understand them changing Japanese text. However why in the name of living fuck did they change the food? Like clearly you are in some alien world where you learn the names of magical creatures(Pokemon) and the names of non existent cities. Would the kids mentally break down if the food was also alien? Like if they say>That is a Beedrill>That is a Pikatchu>We are going to veridian city That is OK however what will give the kids seizures and make them foam at the mouth is when a character says the word "rice ball". If someone eats a rice ball that will forever shatter that kids connection to any form of reality! I literally do not understand!However I am from Europe where literally one man who has no emotions dubs every old anime in his basement. Alone as the single voice actor. Where US parents prepared for the talk that explained to little Timmy that pokemon are fake and Pallet Town is not real. However there is no way in hell they explain to him that rice balls are fake or something they made up in the cartoon. Like literally what is the logic here? Why waste localization resources in censoring food items on screen?
>>59612443Because they probably planned to remake the scene with other food, but likely ran out of budget.
>>59612450>to remake the scene with other foodI repeat the questionWhy waste localization resources in censoring food items on screen?Like why? By that logic that should replace every pokemon with a real life animal and every city with the name of a real life city.
>>59612443While I agree with you OP, I guess they did it so because they thought kids would find the idea of eating donuts with your friends easier to visualize than rice balls. Coming from a guy who watched a lot of old japanimation growing up, I used to wonder what the stuff the characters on TV were eating was even supposed to taste like. Rice balls especially left me wondering.>Kid me: Okay, I get the idea of a rice ball, but what is that black thing on the rice supposed to be?Same with stuff like dorayaki and noru senbei crackers. In fact, as a kid I used to think noru senbei crackers tasted like chocolate chip cookies. Apparently I was wrong and they're actually salty.
>>59612499>>Kid me: Okay, I get the idea of a rice ball, but what is that black thing on the rice supposed to be?Never did have this thought a a kid being 5 meters from the CRT assured that. However This king of thinking adds more value to the world and you thinking about it, the best part is they have real answers.
>>59612520>Everybody from that shithole of a country is a fucking moron who doesn't know anything about cultures from other parts of the world like Japan.Yea however the show is about magical creatures who are not real....I did not want to talk about them changing the text however there are shit loads of cartoons who literally have nonsense for writing. Like they are meaningless symbols. Did they think this is the best way to spend their time?> shit like donuts and McDonald's 24/7.I repeat myself however what will give the kids seizures and make them foam at the mouth is when a character says the word "rice ball". If someone eats a rice ball that will forever shatter that kids connection to any form of reality!Like for real did any of them think liek this?Oh yes here is a cartoon about magical animals they do not know.NO PROTECT THE CHILDREN FROM FOODS THEY DO NOT KNOW!
>>59612443Honestly they could have called it red beans and rice. Would have been somewhat accurate (at least compared to donuts) and is American enough.
Because they were localising it for americans. Hence the need to dumb it the fuck down so their fuckwit children could follow along.
>>59612541They couldn't as they were trying to synch lip movements with the localisation. "red beans and rice" is too many syllables for the lip movements they animated at that moment.
>>59612543>Because they were localising it for americans. Hence the need to dumb it the fuck down so their fuckwit children could follow along.Then why did they not rename Pikachu to RAT!Geodue to ROCK!Or why did they not change Vermilion City to Chicago or something?>so their fuckwit children could follow along.In a """"cartoon""""(this is how they see it) whose whole gimmick is memorizing 150 made up creatures? They lost that battle long ago.
>>59612547*Laughs in the dub where the lips do not even move when a character speaks!*
>>596124434Kids was just a silly little guy. Their One Piece will forever be comedy.
>>59612443>Removing violence/death/gore/horror>Removing problematic/mature subjects. I despise that shit.I don't care if they censor the females cleavage a bit but as soon as they remove sny edge or controversy it's not the true artistic version but the corporate save version for cattle.
>>59612547Red beans and rice has less syllables than jelly filled doughnuts
>>59612599>I despise that shit.> it's not the true artistic versionLook for them this was some jap cartoon they can make money on not a art exhibition if they need to refactor the series they see no problem.Like the Polish voice overs however with a budget and actually giving a shit.Poland got 1 guy in a basement for everything.https://youtu.be/wZRTCkyvcQc?t=33https://youtu.be/ppwxvdqR3i0?t=314The difference is that the there is a reason for censoring violence/death/gore/horror problematic/mature subjects this is childishness cartoon and if the censors say no death you go to the editing. On the other hand the only exploitation why they censored the foods is if they literally think american children will have the same reaction to seeing a food they do not know as they will have to experiencing traumatizing scenes of gore and death. The memes for this write themselves.
>>59612541>>59612547I think it could have been called just "beans and rice" to remove that one extra syllable, but yeah >>59612610 makes a good point. "red beans and rice" is 4 syllables, while "jelly filled donuts" is 5 syllables.
Because Americans are retarded. Latin American dubs (that didn't use the English 4Kids slop as a base) kept Japanese lettering and references to Japanese food and culture
>>59612520I read this post in an Indian accent.
>>59612783this but for >>59612762
>>59612583>Their One Piece will forever be comedy.Serious question why?They censored >Removing sexual things>Removing violence/death/gore/horror>Removing problematic/mature subjects.I understand all of it.>Muh artist vision!bolts and knifes get censored away because this is what the programming for kids says.However why did they censor food?Is there a secret rule that makes non american food illegal?This is pure insanity!
>>59612762>kept Japanese lettering and references to Japanese food and cultureThe truth is that for a american child these would be>Pokemon foodand>Pokemon World coultureSince most people and especially children would lack the ability to detect them and assume these are made up things for the anime.> Japanese lettering There are examples of cartoons who use nonsense for letters and the characters read it in English. I do not think there are any good examples before the 90s however these would be nonsense scribbles for the majority of people and they move on with their life.The most insane one are replacing the cups because if you squint you can see japanese writing on them. And the proof of this are all the countries with anime who did not do that(because no money) and the kids did not freak out, especially in the age of CRTs and siting far away from the TV.
nigga its 2026 if you don't like the edits watch it subbed
>>59612443Eh, sometime in the latter half of the OG kanto series, they mention rice balls like a fucking sane person instead of jelly doughnuts. At some point, I guess they stopped caring.>>59612450They did the jelly donut thing more than once, so I doubt that.
>>59612520holy based
If you didn't watch the real Jap version when torrents became a thing I'm so sorry for you.
>>59612443The old guard at 4Kids came from an anti-foreigner generation.Just remember that before, they couldn't tell Japan and China apart.
>>59612443Censoring?We simply didn't know what an onigiri was.
