>>59622563
Nope, Leon is canonically the strongest champion

>>59622569
Not after he lost his "Undefeated" plot armor, now writers are allowed to make him lose to other champion.

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>>59622569
lol

>>59622563
for anime, if unrestricted - probably Cynthia W
if limited to 1 gimmick - probably Leon
for everything besides anime - always Cynthia

I mean pult and ageislash kinda own her life

>>59622563
Leon is a better trainer and has a better team. Cynthia is a better member of her community.

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Would this happen, /vp/?

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>>59622580
>has a better team
...

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>>59622563
>70%
still the Queen after 20 years

>>59622563
Leon > Raihan >= other champions

Therefore Leon > Cynthia

There's a reason why they cucked Cynthia by giving her that retarded-ass Garchomp moveset and didn't let her Mega Garchomp against tr*sh and yet despite them both being restricted to one gimmick tr*sh needed to bullshit that Aura Genkidama that may as well be a fourth gimmick for him to be able to be even with her.
Learn to read between the lines.

Leons relevance ended the millisecond he lost to Ash
Cynthia is still top champ after 20 years

even in Masters they made it clear that Cynthia ~ Red > Leon

masters 8 shitshow fucked this franchise up beyond repair

>>59622586
Chomp = 3 Worlds (20 years)
Zard = 0 Worlds (30+ years)

>>59622563
Cynthia will win just because.

>>59622586
>Champion.
>Strongets trainer in the region
>Only 5 Pokémon
Fucking stupid!
LGBTQ+ friendly niggerslop from Israel!!!

>>59622599
>masters 8 shitshow fucked this franchise up beyond repair
BW, XY, SM and all of JN prior to that already did that before M8
and thats only if you gave a fuck about the ashnime

>>59622604
Exclamationfag is making the rounds today, isn't xe

Why did they do this? Was it not enough that they let Ash use 3 gimmicks in one battle? Did they really need to pull this out of their ass as well?

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>>59622610
forgot pic

>>59622606
You are gay!!!!!!!!!

What about Steven?

>>59622619
>What about Steven?
he's gay
or rocksexual

>>59622563
this: >>59622569
No matter how much the cynthiafags cry, it’s a fact that Leon was the strongest trainer until Ash defeated him.

>>59622686
you're dumb + gay

>>59622563
>Is this true?
Yes
Cynthia rapes

I will be getting a lot of people angry but I can not imagine a scenario where Cynthia's Garchomp win against Diantha's Gardevoir in the anime no matter what moveset she uses.

I hate Cynthia because she is goonbait but she is still stronger than Leon.
Platinum is a much harder game than HGSS, Cynthia is an actual challenge, even if a minor one. Leon is just a classic modern Pokémon asswipe. And Leon has has a fucking Gigantamax Charizard for christs sake.
Meanwhile Cyntjia has Pokémon that actually don't suck like Garchomp and Lucario.

>>59622806
>HGSS
SwSh
Sry I am tired.

>>59622563
I don't care, I like Cynthia and don't like Leon, therefore Leon is a fraud.

>>59622707
I admit your cuckcession

>>59622586
Dragapult alone prob clears 3 of Cynthia's Pokemon

>>59622598
Leon beat Red in Masters EX though, beat his ass so hard Red went to try out Tera as a gimmick to beat his ass after

>>59622910
Leon literally needed plot armor to beat red was losing so hard he nearly blacked out. If it wasnt for the arc suit leon would have lost again. Stop trying to gaslight people who didnt play masters. Also Red beat him so hard the first time he cried like a bitch for a rematch and had to get an ass pull power up.

>>59622707
You're a retarded idiot (probably brown like Leon) fighting for the honor of an anime woman who doesn't exist.

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Solid team tee bee ach

As an actual anime watcher, no, Cynthia does not beat Leon. His Rillaboom solo'd four of Diantha's Pokemon, and Ash needed Mega Evolution and a Z-Move in addition to Gigantamax just to eek out a close win. They have even have a ludicrous statement about how all of Leon's Pokemon are "ace" level.

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>>59622563
Leon vs cynthia (Lore accurate)

Leon was tasked by Chairman Rose to win ALL OF THE WORLD'S Pokémon League to be become the ultimate Pokémon Trainer as a mean to one up his Brother Peony; who beats him in the Galar League long ago. It been established that he defeated all of the worlds regional champions throughout his career. The real reason you won is because he's burned out and ready to retire; same reason why Ash Ketchum beats him, or that he fails to capture Eternatus.

>>59622563
I forgot Leon was supposed to be the Strongest....

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>>59622563
Leon is the biggest industry plant character in the franchise. All statements, no feats. He gets bent over by the protags just like every other champion in the series. His comp his wack. His strategies are lacking. He's hard carried by Dynamax. That's not the mark of DA STRONGEST. That's the mark of a BUM. Leon is the Lewis Hamilton of Pokemon. All hype, no sauce, protected by the industry. If it weren't for his skin color, he would've been an afterthought with no fans.

>>59623258
>feats
Underage or brown, take your pick

>>59623285
Not an argument.

>>59622563
>Leonbrowns are STILL seething about Cynthia
Holy kekaroni.

>>59623323
None needed

>>59623347
Concession accepted.

Why accept the canon powerscaling when i can just glaze?

>>59623371
Spoken like a true Leon fan.

>>59622910
>Leon beat Red
No, he lost at first. Very definitively
He needed arceus power-up to barely win
The same power-up Cynthia already got first.

Cynthia = Red > Leon
Arc Cynthia = Arc Red > arc Leon

>>59623371
>canon powerscaling
>>59622586