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(Part of the Great Pokémon x Palworld Humiliation War)

Combatants:
>The United Typhlosion Front for Friends and Children
>/vp/ - Pokémon & Gamefreak & TPC

Place:
>boardwide raid that lasted two weeks, with various compromised threads between both fighting sides

Casualties:
>release of Legends ZA was compromised
>starter line up was exposed as one of Legends ZA's reasons of failure
>Tepig / Emboar line exposed as pathetic shillmon, the least popular line in both generations it featured as starter
>Toiletgator / Totodiddler humiliated
>Meganium fans exposed for inciting flame wars
>at least 100 thousand dollars in lost sales to Gamefreak / Nintendo (alleged)
>the concept of Mega Evolution has been ridicularized into irrelevance

Results:
>Decisive Typhlosion victory
>Typhlosion miraculously turns around and surges in Johto popularity polls after the entire pedophilia leaks
>Legends ZA relegated to spin-off status

We made having a Mega and being featured in Legends ZA such a punishment, that Typhlosion was the only Johto starter to come out more popular than before after ZA was released -- this, after a brutal and unfair smear campaign started by cowardly leaks.
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>typedos are still on about this
meganiumchads still are the only ones to come out unscathed KEK
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watch this retarded and blatantly low quality thread hit the bump limit thrice over because the mods are too busy raping kids along with G*me Fre*k.
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>>59628087
Ty was my nigga back in Gen 2! He a good boy he did nuffin wrong!!
Sad to see Feraligatr humiliated so bad. Hopefully Mewtwo returns and holocausts all pokemon after Gen 2.
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>>59628090
Meganiumfags came out the scummiest.

>entire war built up over unecessary smear and insults thrown the way of Typhlosion
>Meganiumfags began gaming the digits game
>got a sextuple where Meganium calls Typhlosion fans pedophiles
>think this is a feat in a board that has three people browsing it
>Meganium mega leaks come out
>instead of admitting it looks dumb and insignificant, Meganiumfags start gaslighting that Mega Meganium is awesome and starts attacking Typhlosion (currently their punching bag, since Typhlosion fans can't fight back by pointing out at their Mega)
>Typhlosion fans surprise everyone by declaring open war on the entire board, especially Meganium and any fanbase related to it

Meganium didn't come out unscathed. It came out as irrelevant as it was before, propped up by its two fans.

The most relevant thing that ever happened to Meganium was feminists trying to turn it into some argument of why Pokémon fans are covert sexists.

So, if anything, Meganium is a spearhead that allows normies to invade our hobby. It is an Achilles heel.

Probably the two greatest victims of the war were Tepig, which is confirmed the biggest shillmon in Gamefreak's roster (and still couldn't get over with the fans), and of course, the toilet gator, which was ambushed from both sides.

To make it extra humiliating to the toilet starter, Gamefreak had polls running before release and knew 3/5 of the players were picking Totodile as their starter due to the awful line up.
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>>59628090
>>59628096
Meganiumfags started all of this. They couldn't get happy with their shillmon starring in Snap and getting a Mega, they had to rub it on everyone else's face and started talking shit after one leak.

I will never allow Meganium fans to pretend that they weren't the ones who started all of this. Their punishment has not nearly been what they deserve.

Toiletgator was not a threat because it never needed combative fans. The ugly pig? Nobody even remembered it existed. But Meganium fans were saber rattling and picking on Typhlosion fans relentlessly.
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>>59628100
>>59628110
We started this, yes. We also won, as evidenced by the fact you're still seething about it to this day.
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>meganiumtroon making retarded threads then replies to himself until someone bites
Even more pathetic that he tries to keep this going with false flags
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>>59628087
Typhlosion is ugly and was always ugly.
Ugly weirdly fat body with stubby limbs and ugly back flame.
Too smooth, just like many gen 2 mons.
Ugliest oldgen starter.
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>>59628145
>op realizes he's losing so he tries to shift the narrative
holy kek
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The humiliation ritual is picking Typhlosion.
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Anyway, in celebration of the fact that Meganivm WVN and gave Typedos wounds that haven't healed to this very day, this is now a Meg thread.
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>>59628156
>>59628149
>>59628145
>>59628140
Imagine this level of delusion.

Typhlosion was not even in the game, and appeared in 5th in the popularity poll for Johto, with thousands of votes.

In comparison, the Chikorita line appeared in...

They are not even in the Top 10.

If this was a victory, anon, you don't want to win ever again.
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>>59628087
I’m not sure what’s all this about winning because in reality nobody fucking won

Typhlosion fans is self explanatory, though maybe not? I haven’t seen anyone joke about her in a while, either way it exists and it stays
Feraligatr got bitch slapped with a toilet mega
Meganium fans got their goat plopped into a meta with a great ability at the same time as SNEASLER
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>>59628156
You were bodied by fkn Wooper. >>59628161

Nobody cares about your gay flower besides feminist ragebaiters.

After the post-ZA popularity polls, it is a disgrace for none of the starters to show up in the top 10 of popularity of any of their regions.

Typhlosion is effortlessly beloved by fans. It doesn't need to be a shillmon, which is probably why you all hate him.

The price of not being a loser is being hated by them.
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>>59628147
Smooth as in realistic, unlike most over designed retard faggot goyslopmons after Gen 2.
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>>59628161
>>59628165
>muh popularity polls
lol, getting desperate aren't we
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>59628162
>her
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>>59628169
Wrong.
Real life animals are detailed.
Looking at mammals specifically they tend to have complex fur pattern for camouflage. Many mammals also have defined musculature, more defined limbs than Typhlosion and combat capable animals like wild animals or attack dogs are always never fat.
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>>59628171
I once tried to debate a Meganiumfag, or at least someone who pretended he was.

He'd go on about how his starter was the greatest, how he loved Chikorita in the anime, how Meganium kids grew up to be adults, while Typhlosion kids grew up to be children, and other nonsense. They were in denial that their starter was always just the 'challenge' one, to be picked by undesirables or those tired of having an actual viable team to play through Gold / Silver. The truth is that Meganium was meant to be the 'anime' option of its mainline title, yet it failed where Charizard became one of the most popular mon of all time.

Yet, when I came with numbers, they replied with banter. When I came with arguments, they replied with ad hominem. When I came with examples, they replied with mockery.

Every time I shut him down, each time I thought we had made some progress, he'd show up in the next day posting very much the same re-worded nonsense of the day before. And that went on until I tired and let the thread slide into the archives, leaving me very frustrated. There was, in truth, no argument, no debate, nothing. The entire scheme of the Meganiumfan is that he is right, he'll say anything that sounds he is right, and if ever questioned, he feigns ignorance until he can once again repeat nonsensical statements and claim victory. Hince and repeat.

In time, I began to hate them.
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>>59628162
>Meganium fans got their goat plopped into a meta with a great ability
This is objectively a win. We went from having no competitive use to having a genuine niche, one that's also way more fun than using a meta team.
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>>59628191
The entire scheme of the Meganiumfan is that he is right
true!
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>>59628193
>missed the meme arrow
it happens, point still stands
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>>59628191
Both suck lol.
All gen 2 starters suck. Feraligatr is the "best" gen 2 starter but still a toilet fetish shitmon.
Most of gen 2 sucks.
The gen 2 Eevees, Misdreavus, Sneasel, Piloswine, Houndoom, Donphan, Smeargle, Tyranitar and the legendary big cats are fine.
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>>59628192
>This is objectively a win. We went from having no competitive use to having a genuine niche, one that's also way more fun than using a meta team

Let me quote Smogon and pretend that Meganiumfags even care about the real world, and don't just exist within their own pocket dimension where someone likes their gay flower besides them:

>Meganium
>Zero Used-tier (the bottom of the barrel)


Written by Melons-N-Soda

Overview

Meganium simply has no real use over other bulky Grass-types in the tier. Its abilities are useless, it has a mediocre movepool, it is very passive, and its bulk isn't even that impressive. Meganium does have some unique moves among its brethren like Dragon Tail and Aromatherapy, but otherwise you're simply better off using other defensive Grass-types such as Tangela, Roselia, and Ferroseed, which have better utility overall. As a cleric, Audino, Articuno, and even Granbull are better choices due to their superior bulk and movepools.
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>>59628162
OH NO NO NO NO

>champions fanfic meta
>only applicable to the mega
>Meganium wastes the mega evolution slot so it can provide any sort of usage
>base Typhlosion is higher tier than it

Smogon eviscerates the flower.
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>>59628196
all of gen 2 is kino
we just fight amongst ourselves because everyone already knows johto is the best region so there's no point genwarring, but we still like arguing online so we starterwar instead
in reality im pretty sure most of us like all 3 (i sure do, although i don't like typhlosion's fans because they make the rest of us look bad by association) we mostly just argue because it's fun
>>59628200
reading comprehension retard.
>We went from having no competitive use to having a genuine niche
>from having no competitive use
this is from a previous gen
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>>59628087
>>59628100
>>59628110
>>59628161
>>59628165
>>59628191
>>59628200
>>59628207
>all redditspaced
KEK
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>>59628200
PU is beliw Zero Used.
PU is the bottom of the barrel.
LC is technically even worse but within their own isolated ruleset LCs can be very powerful.
Florges is PU. Florgesniggers get cucked!
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>>59628209
>all of gen 2 is kino
Gen 2 has too many round and minimal designs with ugly color schemes.
If they truely made them to cater to foids rather than boys it really shows.
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>>59628200
Bringing up Smogon is a game you don't wanna play.
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>most relevant thing about Meganium is that they consistently bait fans of a more popular Pokémon so they can earn some pity attention
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>>59628227
Higher than both zards btw.
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>>59628227
Congratulations, it took you a Mega Stone slot, endless shilling, a flopped spinoff, and 26 years to be relevant, but you did it.
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>>59628231
All gen 2 starters suck.
>The girly one
>The toilet fetishist one
>The fugly one
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>>59628231
>saying this when this thread was made unprompted out of pure typedo seethe
>>59628236
That, my friend, is called the long game.
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>>59628150
It’s only a humiliation ritual for subhuman’s stupid enough to play the main series shit made by g*me fr*ak.

>>59628215
>4pedo complaining about Reddit
funniest thing in this fucking thread
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>>59628267
>Going on a board for a series you hate on the site you hate.
Self inflicted double-humiliation ritual.
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>>59628305
I don’t hate Pokémon I hate game freak
Big difference
Also while 99.9 if board is shit, I’m here for the .1% percent that deserves to exist
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>>59628326
Typhlosion was a victim of Gamefreak's incompetence, who can't even protect their own files and let some disgusting thing about drugging and raping children making its way to the public of a family game.

Gamefreak can't stop giving its shillmons the world, while trying their best to undermine and sabotage anything that gets popular on its own merit.
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ITT:

Meganiumshitters try their hardest to reignite a civil war after their flower flopped, their game is considered one of their worst in the franchise, their Mega is wasted and their starter is a shillmon.
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>>59628389
see >>59628149
keep trying bud LOL
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>>59628200
>posting this as a gotcha when anon was clearly referring to mega meganium
The Sharty and 764 has rotted your brain.
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>>59628389
>wasted mega slot
This is what Flygonfags say.
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>>59628439
also regular meganium is RU now, the same tier as both forms of typhlosion. this is from a previous gen
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>>59628486
The goalpost is just going to be moved so there's no point.
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>>59628497
We need to give it to the Meganium that it probably got the longer end of the stick with Legends ZA. But the stick of ZA was never large.

This battle against Typhlosion that you have started is still in its first chapters.

For now, you enjoy it.

By the end, we'll see that you don't.

Not a confession. Not a threat. Just a spoiler.
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>>59628758
>r*dditspacing
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Meganiumfag (the main one) started off somewhat noble and used to say no brother wars but then he caved to the pressure and started shitting on us, and ultimately became the driving force behind the typedo meme

Also he tried to get “in” with other fags on here just by shitting on ivyfag, who at least didn’t push the typedo meme
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Creator of the original meme should've put cindaquill's face or something on the Space Marine in the back
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>>59628866
>even pokemon fans miss out on opportunities such as this
Man this franchise is in such a dire, grim state...
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>>59628192
Agree 50/50, a niche is a niche, and when you’re not faced with a non-bug poison type it’s fun to get rid of unsuspecting fire types, but maybe it’s sour grapes getting to me, but sneasler is just, really, really annoying to take out with little options (in champions) that trying to use M-Meganium is annoying..
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>>59628879
We are in a dying era, where the most interesting thing about Pokémon is a leak involving drugging and raping.

This is a franchise in violent decadence. Notice how the main threads won't even discuss the game.

>>59628793
There was nothing noble about Meganiumfags. From the very beginning, they were inciting conflict.
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>>59629262
Only usage for Mega Meganium is motivated by desperation
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>>59629266
Mega Sceptile's usage is motivated by that too.
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kek OP is still going on about this
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>>59628087
Kek, I love reading Typedo cope. At the end of the day, you and your pedo badger got btfo'd by the holy trinity of
>Not Like Us vocaroo
>MeGODnium get
>tepig getting the third starter spot despite the other two being from johto
And you're still seething to this day it seems
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>>59629409
>>MeGODnium get
gets* plural
the second one was the whole za trio but it still applies
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>>59628444
This is the one thing Flygonfags are right about. Game freak is so retarded and wasteful with time money and resources that they can only make limited megas, every mega made for one Pokémon is a mega another Pokemon that needed with was gypped out of
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>>59629880
Pokémon has a special way to turn what could be peaceful co-existence into a endless source of drama.

Flygonfans are completely correct about Mega Ressentment.
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>>59628087
What is it with typedos having to be a victim 24/7 even when nobody is spamming that meme anymore?
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>>59629944
>typedos
>implying
It’s one falseflagging pedo trying to revive the meme.
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>>59628162
emboar got out pretty good
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>>59630018
Emboar got out as a failed shillmon. That is not good.

They gave it a pity cool mega, and it still was less popular than Meganium.
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>>59630214
Helping hand make it rain is better than what Transganium got
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>>59630214
>Emboar got out as [thing i just made up]
we went from most people hating emboar but a few dedicated fans loving it, to most people hating emboar but a few dedicated fans loving it and its mega. sounds like a pretty good deal to me.
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>>59630223
Anon, no one gives a shit. transganium got a better version of Zard Y’s ability, while mega emboar is used less than the base emboar. Ffs, I seen far more people in champions using Johtonian Typhlosion than both emboar forms combined despite literally having to compete with its own regional form that gets a second STAB and fake out immunity. And keep in mind Johtonain Typhlosion basically hasn’t been buffed in 20 fucking years while emboar just a mega.

I don’t know it was possible to shit the bed so badly with a mega in terms of viability but they fucking did it.
But at least Emboar’s mega isn’t a toilet weaker than its own baby. (I live how Gatr’s shit show of a mega validates my opinion that having 2 johto starters for ZA was fucking retarded)

>>59628866
>Pokémonfans can’t do anything right,
what else is new?
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>>59630018
Not really, especially when in the trailer the rest were awarded new abilities for everyone to theorize on while emboar was awarded…mold breaker. You could say it has a good mega design, I personally disagree due to how over the top it looks, but the bottom line is how they screwed it over just as much if not for than meganium and feraligatr.
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>>59630792
What does mold breaker even does as an ability?
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>>59628100
This is the truth

Meganiumfags larp as fake humble but the moment they smelled blood they hopped on the bandwagon and threw typglosion under the bus

Listen, the worst Typhloshionchads did is get a bit defensive during leaktober
None of us threw other starters into the flames like you fags

Now we are back on top you want your cake and to eat it too. Get fucked
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>>59630792
see >>59630326
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>>59630974
>None of us threw other starters into the flames like you fags

Meganium fans are not happy with their starter being featured in anything - save the lost potential rankings. Whenever they get anything, they need to make sure to put everyone down

Had it not been for the Mega Meganium leak, I doubt this entire starter war would have even happened.
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>>59630954
it ignores opponent's defensive abilities. Its a good ability on a Pokémon that already has good offensive stats, not whatever the fuck this is. (Remember its already holding an stone so no boost from items) .
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>>59631092
Just found out that Game Freak is retarded and doesn't actually know how the games work huh?
Do you know about the "shock" over Aegislash being used as a special attacker? How about the retardation with physical Electric type moves?
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>>59628087
Sad what typhlosion did to those little girls. What a creep
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>>59628087
Sad that Pedo Freak hates typhlosion so much they let a pedophile falsely accuse it of rape. What creeps
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>meganiumfags: started out humble but got too cocky and threw typglosion under the bus
>typedos: we had empathy as the meme dragged on and felt bad, soon became insufferable with their numerous whining and crying about how it’s a dead meme, how it’s not fair etc and gave birth to the schizo that emailed Gamefreak asking them to retract it (kek)

>toilet bros: even though we hated it too, we didn’t shit on other starters and accepted that Feraligatr this Gen was a write off and let the jokes roll

Crocbros. We WVN
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>>59628090
>meganiumchads still are the only ones to come out unscathed
it actually got mass-associated as the designated LGBTQ+ choice
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>>59630974
>>59631085
>exact same redditspacing
samefag a little more subtly next time.
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>>59631351
The removal of the IP count was, and is, and will always be, a mistake.
And for what reason was it removed for?
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>inflates meganium big and round
She like it, okay?
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>>59631371
She doesn't like it. SHE LOVES IT.
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>>59631092
>148 attack and 110 special attack is bad
i hate powercreep
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>>59631065
Is it really a good deal when like feraligatr it’s permanently stuck with a bad design decision that people can’t stop bringing up?

If you like it, go ahead. But saying it’s an overall good deal isn’t fully true imo, especially in the age where people make annoying ass “slander” memes about anything that doesn’t OHKO.
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>>59631388
Big cute balloon for sure.
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>>59631775
What happened to Feraligatr was a special type of cruelty.

Feraligatr was always worse Gyarados
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>>59631775
>>59632131
yeah emboar and feraligatr are not even remotely on the same level. the people who care about emboar getting an underwhelming ability are comp players, who will always be a minority. i don't think anyone else's opinion changed on emboar because of its mega, positively or negatively.
anyone who looks at mega gatr can see the absolute travesty it is.
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>>59632496
No one even picked Tepig as starter, to be honest. It was even below Chikorita in starter picks, and Chikorita was the least chosen starter of HGSS.

Tepig is probably the one shillmon that they just can't make it work.

All Tepig support comes from Meganiumfags trying to bait the Typhlosion people.

And by the way, what an awful starter line up.
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Pokemon "fans" will do anything but play the games.
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>>59632671
me when i make shit up
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>>59632671
I remember Tepig and Chikorita being tied
>All Tepig support comes from Meganiumfags trying to bait the Typhlosion people.
not a meganiumfag but my support for tepig is because having 1 Unova starter makes a hell of a lot more since than having 2 johto starters.

>>59632676
to be fair, game freak will do anything but make the games good.
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>>59632676
This is because the games suck so bad I rather spend my afternoon hanging out with idiots like you than having to play them.
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>>59632713
it's insane how having 2 johto starters instantly killed the ZA hype. genuinely what were they thinking.
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>>59632740
They could've used some other starters for the water or grass spot sure but hoenn kanto and kalos already had a mega/would've gotten one anyway so that leaves the sinnoh alola galar and paldea starters in la they already put all the sinnoh starters so that might be why they didn't add those, the alola starters don't really need buffs besides decidu but that one already got a hisui form, from galar only intleon really needs a buff and I don't think any of the paldea starters need any buff but they also might not feel pressed to give them a mega since they are so new and it they were gonna do 2 unova starters it would end up being the awkward in the same way as with 2 johto.
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>>59632740
>>59632783
/vp/ said it should be Blaziken (national bird), Serperior, and Empoleon

instead they chose randos that have nothing to do with the setting
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>KANTO
Lame. I don't care about any of them.
>Gen 2
Objectively the worst
>Gen 3
Very strong. Sceptile is definitively the strongest here. Mudkip is decent. Blaziken drags down the trio by Combusken being a NSFW shitmon.
>Gen 4
Didn't care about any of them. Next.
>Gen 5
Probably the strongest trio. Emboar is one of the best starters because he is a cool muscular wrestler boar with giant sharp claws. Samurott is a cool samurai with armor and gets bonus points for being quadruped. But in classic gen 5 fashion, where half the designs are awesome and the other half the designs are fucking ugly, Serperior hurts the trio by being a shitmon that loses its limbs upon evolving.
>Gen 6
Delphox line is one of the best starters, especially Braixen because of its cool attack animations with its flaming cudgel. Chesnaught is pretty alright and looks combat capable. Greninja is one of the worst starters because of how fucking ugly it looks.
>Gen 7
Stronger. Incineroar is a cool wrestler but also a downgrade from Torracat which is a cute and good design with its fire bell, cool fur pattern and model. Primarina is decently nice and cute. Decidueye is the weak link and meh.
>Gen 8
Weak all around. All three are ugly shitmon.
>Gen 9
Sprigatito is legendary and might be the best first evo. Floragato is a downgrade. Meowscarada is another downgrade, still cute but nothing special anymore. Skeledirge is a fucking ugly clown mon. Quaquaval is an abomination against god.
By the way this is the objective truth and the greatest opinion. I knowthis because I am the ultimate patrician with all the right opinions. Don't even try to refute or chalenge this.
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>>59632783
> don't really need buffs
This is game freak we’re talking about, they have never cared about whether something needed a buff or not. Ans if legends games are for buffs then they fucked up already since regionals aren’t buffs.
Simplest solution is for game freak to stop trying to be cute and just make the Kalos starters the ZA starters
> they also might not feel pressed to give them a mega since they are so new
Baxcalibur and Scovillian got megas though
>Sinnoh starters
Japan worships the Piplup line, they could have e easily gotten away with having that thing be the water starter despite already in in LA and LA gave it nothing
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>muh leddit spacing

no greater filter than finding out someone joined here post 2016 kek
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>>59632788
>instead they chose randos that have nothing to do with the setting

It was a way to disavow Typhlosion.
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>>59633048
>the baby eaters at game freak try to be slick and jew typhlosion out of a mega
>2/3 of the ZA starters megas are a joke, >Emboar’s being flat out worse than an assault vest
> Feraligatr’s having no option but to kill itself with double edge as well as being a skibidi toilet weaker than its own baby that went from the most popular ZA starter to a joke.
>hilariously, ZA bloated the pool of megas so much that regional forms are the more exclusive gimmick
Absolute comedy of errors.



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