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Pokémon Champions is a free to play online battle simulator available on Switch and mobile. It features ranked, casual and private battles for both singles and doubles, and will be used for VGC tournaments in 2026.

>News
- Eric Rios [ES] has won the 2027 Frankfurt Regional Championship
- Kiran Singh [AU] has won the 2027 Brisbane Regional Championship
- Recife Regionals October 3rd-4th
- Louisville Regionals October 10th-11th

>Resources and useful links
Community Tournaments usage data: https://pikalytics.com/
Ladder usage data: https://pokechamdb.com/en
Damage Calculator
https://nerd-of-now.github.io/NCP-VGC-Damage-Calculator/
New Player Guide(NEW PEOPLE READ THIS):
https://rentry.org/pcg-guide (now taking suggestions and feedback)

Quick FAQ
>Do I need my own Pokémon to play?
No, the game features a recruitment system, but transferring from Home is recommended to save time and resources.
>What makes the game so much more accessible than before?
All aspects of a Pokémon are customizable with VP, a currency earned simply by playing the game. IVs are also removed.
Ask in the thread if you want any specific Pokémon, and someone will respond.
>Is there single player content?
No.
>Do I need a Nintendo Online subscription?
No.
>What's the starter pack?
US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 Teammate Tickets (recruit Pokemon without using VP), 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music. Only available on Switch for now.
>Is anything locked behind a paywall?
So far everything gameplay relevant is also purchasable with VP. Only E-Floette require ZA transfer.

>/pcg/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread): https://pastebin.com/d2FJZdPh

old >>59624575
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first for free mythicals
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Total Zomp Victory
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>>59629575
players are sleeping on her
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>>59629597
I mean her niche is definitely way smaller with all the psyspam and metagross being better too
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>>59629592
i feel like a lot of players are going to start carrying zomp checks now. floette probably increases in usage
>>59629597
pic rel outspeeds the modest ones by one point
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>>59629597
ive been messing around psych up on coil milotic with it for 100 acc heat waves
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>>59629602
>metagross
this is still a niche mon. it had a 6% conversion rate into day 2/ 3/49.
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>>59629597
>outspeeds and two shots mega mence
>outspeeds and two shots mega zomp
>beats psyspam
>one shots and OHKOs sneasler
>one nasty plot can win you games
im thinking based
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>>59629607
You're right, I mean the biggest issue is that she's a psychic type that can't psyspam and heat wave spam is not as strong with incin better than before and mence, but I could be misreading I'm sure she can still carve out some niche surely.
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>>59629613
>outspeeds Garchomp Z
Anon...
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i refuse to say this thing is good. its a 2HKO merchant despite its stats. you can say all u want that its made a grand surprise appearance recently but really its cuz the people using them are good. those same people could take other lesser used mons and make em look good. truly naturally good mons are ones that even 10 year old kids could utilize and make em work out.
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>>59629720
It's bulky has no 4x weakness can be physical or special hit decently hard either way & it just so happens to be the fastest mon in the fucking game, it's just a good trading mon yeah its kinda needs someone to pilot it well but calling it not good is petty denial, I'm not a fan or anything I wish it had a cooler ability but be for fucking real.
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>Garchomp will never get scorching sands or Nasty plot now.
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>>59629602
Psyspam and Metagross being good is good for Delphox though. She walls EF and Metagross is a free kill.
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>>59629597
Volcarona victim
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>posted in the wrong thread
>>59629117
I'm tired boss.
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>>59629720
It keeps other sweeper threats in check and that's all you really need. Paur that with fake out pressure and you can afford to greed on shit like bulky gholdengo or a trick room mode while still keeping serious threats like Salamence in check
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>>59629720
>i refuse to say this thing is good
yeah bro..
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>>59629756
does it need to spend a turn on Nasty Plot if it just instantly spams Draco Meteors?
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>>59629846
17-0 is fucking crazy
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>>59629642
Most garchomp z are modest, timid phox outspeeds that by one
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>>59629720
>refuse to say this thing is good. its a 2HKO merchant despite its stats
That’s the point, it works well on balance teams because it’s a very good damage trader, like regular chomp and how takuma used his dnite at worlds 2026
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If a Pokémon wins two regionals on the same weekend, me thinks it’s good
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If a mon loses to Sun/Rain in finals and doesn't make top 8 at an even bigger tournament, me thinks it's shit.
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lost to archaludon again
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I doubt it, because this shit runs on cell phones, but does the Switch 2 make this game run better or have better graphics or anything? My switch 2 is just sitting in the box on my kitchen counter because I don't have any reason to open it before Winds/Waves or the new smash brothers. I kind of want to, but I'm not paying 80$ for any other video games.
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>>59630076
When the Switch came out in 2017 there were already phones on the market that were more powerful than it.
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>mdb is dating a tranny
its over eurobros
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>>59630107
god i wish i were him
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>>59630107
source?
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>>59630076
>does the Switch 2 make this game run better
no lmfao and in fact this shit game is very unoptimized, drains battery very fast
i did an experiment and this unity dogshit drains the switch battery faster than cyberpunk. and re9. its genuinely astounding
im surprised champions has an audience at all. its legitimately a bad game and a shit live service. pokemon fans are used to eating dogshit i suppose
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>>59630115
twitter showed me some post of theirs. they're a v-tuber too
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>>59630107
It's the VGC meta build.
Anything else would be suboptimal.
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>>59630107
Lorenzo arce (t8 Baltimore) is dating Olivia moldedzki. very common for vgc players to date eachother, no matter the gender.
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>>59630130
If it's a tranny why are you calling it they/them
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>>59630136
Same diff
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crazy that SV runs better on s2 but they didn't bother with hampions
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>>59630117
Switch OLED has a better battery life than the SW1, Lite and SW2.
I can leave that shit on idle on champions for 3 hours.
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>>59630147
>they didn't bother with Champions
basically describes the entire game
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Taught someone who used perish song against my Corviknight the order the pokemon faint
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>>59629851
Tgis is like asking if Gold needs nasty plot if it has make it rain
YES
NASTY PLOT IS NASTY
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>>59630212
Just skill swap it contrary, bro
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glimmora nigger if i find you irl you better hope you carry spiky shield otherwise im going to make you faint
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>>59630107
I mean, Kelsh is ugly and very autistic, no wonder no woman wants him. Not even hating he's a great player and I don't know him personally but it's clear as day, I'm like that too but I'd never lower my standards
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>>59630254
Probably gives some mean sloppy toppy though since Troons are desperate to please their boyfriends 9 times out of 10.
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my intended team for next season in 7 days. i was thinking of just doing primarina voice spam w/ pelipper drizzle. would start with leading prima + volcarona to rage powder and calm mind. then nnext turn swap volca out for pelipper.

team feels over-invested into hoping prima stays around for the win (3/4 slots for prima setup in battle). also im missing 1 pokemon idk who id use in that empty spot, another mega?
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>>59630281
same anon, was also thinking of rilla since i dont wanna lose terrain wars, but at the same time prima is basically dead if opposing rillas can get off a grassy glide once volca is KO'd.
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>>59630281
What is pelipper's purpose except severely crippling Volcarona?
Also, fix that torrent.
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>>59630281
Why are you running both quiver dance and rage powder on volcarona? You don't seem to be seriously threatening a boost sweep wuth peli on the team
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>>59630254
A couple years ago, he doomposted about how a girl he liked rejected him.
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>>59630254
Most top players are autistic (who else spends thousands of hours on a video game equivalent to chess). Hell, even Wolfe, who’s considered charismatic by VGC standards said he had trouble making freinds growing up.
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>>59630281
why is every single mon capable running a spread move? with half of them being not even 100% accurate ffs
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>>59630281
Maybe Sinistcha to keep primarina topped up?
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>>59630364
Wolfe is at the least way less outgoing and more shy than he comes off in videos and whatever. He had a few mini autism tangents out of nowhere in his streamer tournament. I guess he's just really good at covering up for short periods of time. Idk how he isn't that nervous doing interviews or on stage, but hey, good for him
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i hate blastoise
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>>59630281
edited.
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FUCK FARIGIRAF
FUCK SINSITCHA
FUCK ARCHALUDON
FUCK GEN 9
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scarf ape is a funny mence check
get defiant ice punched fool

also good at warding off incelroar
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zarchomp is gonna force me to carry a fairy on my team isn't it
this is just like when they had to invent them to deal with latios
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I want to do something silly with Hydrapple but pretty much every resource on hydrapple seems to exclusively be based on singles format just spamming regenerator switches
Why are people so unfun.
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>>59630544
trickroom dragon cheer? kinda just dragalge with no pivot move and more dice rolls with fickle beam
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>>59630562
oh wait, give it eject, when it gets the -2 from meteor it goes out to get any health it lost back then do what i said before
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>>59630454
this shit is so random, huge downgrade
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>just discovered what's the use of affinity tickets
neat
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>>59630544
use it with king's rock maushold
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>>59630107
pic of tranny???
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>>59630682
Why do you want to see a picture? Something you want to share?
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>>59630682
this nigga gae
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Any genned shiny giveaways on Home gts rn? I know some generous bros do that occasionally without advertisement and for the lulz
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Laddering is so inconsistent. One match I’ll get stomped and the next it feels like my opponent has no idea what they’re doing. It’s weird.
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>>59630703
ILCA already hunting its next victim
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>>59630281
nigga.
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>>59630740
>wide lens
wow i hope no one spits or throws 1g of dirt on your harcanine
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>>59630731
I'm not an ILCA Glowie. Or am i?
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double shock should be reusable in electric terrain
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>opponent used helping hand
>it doesn't affect Gholdengo
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for some reason the idea of running volcarona on my rain team keeps calling me like the green goblin mask even though i know it's retarded to intentionally sabotage its stronger stab type
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>>59630723
That's how laddering works as usual. You win your favorable matchups and then lose to those that have an edge against your strategy
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so many guys just assume support volc they just let you get off 4 quiver dances
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i don't even care about the speed control aspect of ychu, but the 12.5% full para chance every turn makes me want to throw my fucking controller out the window
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>>59630809
I won a game the other day because my opponent was paralyzed 2 turns in a row :3
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They're really gonna allow mega magearna? Holy fuark..
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>>59630823
wat
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>>59630809
Just hit it bro it gets oneshot by literally everything
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>>59630809
Scarf chomp
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>>59630823
Datamine sprites
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>>59630839
they all run big fat builds now, you basically need STAB ground to one shot it
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>scarf icy wind kingambit
why the shart does it even learn icy wind
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>>59630869
it was a zoroark
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>>59630869
That was a zororoak lol
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>>59630871
>>59630872
NTA, but one fucking Zoroark once ruined my 200 streak in XY Battle Maison. I was livid losing that match
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>>59630866
still needs a shitton of investment to not get 1 tapped by sneedler or 2 tapped by rilla glide
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>>59630881
They are all max HP max speed.
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>>59630884
max hp 0 def dies to cc
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is it even possible to run an honest bulky team that wins through favorable trading of blows

feels like it's just impossible to not get run over unless you use tailwind, trick room, or put fake out/priority on everyone
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>>59630916
Speed control has always been the name of the game.
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im at 1k+ eggs trying to get a shiny sneasler in a level ball so i can win in style
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>>59630881
adamant sneasler always 1hko mine with 32 hp 11 def
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>>59630939
I don't know if it still works in newer games, but in XY
>put a pair that will result in a magikarp in the daycare
>walk until an egg shows up and hatch it
>if shiny, reload save and put in a different pair for a pokemon of your choice. Once hatched the pokemon will have the similar spread with the magikarp
>not shiny? Save and repeat
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>>59630951
Oh yeah, Magikarp is used because it has the fastest hatch period compared to other pokemon back in XY
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>>59630946
yeah you need def in the 20s-30s and sac some speed for hp to survive it
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It's definitely refreshing that M-Chu is actually relevant in this meta though
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>tough claws boosted +32 atk adamant golisopod aqua jet in the rain
>hits espathra
>does like 10%
what
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>>59631054
Friend guard or screens?
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>>59631057
+Intimidate or parting shot?
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>>59631057
i forgot he had screens up
electric seed as well

was a weird team in general with xchu as the screen setter
managed to win anyway thanks to volgoatrona redirecting shit while my arch killed his
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the female basc teams are so cheesy
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So as a relatively new player, is the ladder ending next week just a ladder reset or are we moving to M-D immediately?
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>>59630951
only worked in gen 7 (and I guess gen6). Sadly you ain't getting sneed in those
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>>59631128
It's just a ladder reset.
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>>59631128
reset
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I think I may need to lab a new team, sun rain is doing really really bad against a lot of what I've been seeing on ladder since the regionals.

I just don't know what there isn't a lot calling to me at the moment.
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i am withering away from starvation for just one single good special attacking ground type that isn't a mega slot
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>>59631183
>good
Anon, we haven't even got any decent ones.
The best we have rn is picrel
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>>59631183
The humble gastrodon, so easily forgotten
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>>59631183
Non-mega Glimmora works for me in singles. Not too sure about doubles format
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male sneaslers shouldnt exist
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All of my pokemon are male
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>>59631198
i do really like glimmora, but it falls short of OHKOing raichu Y unless it has life orb, but it really wants scarf in that matchup
it also doesn't work great as an archaludon counter (the other thing you want earth power for) due to flash cannon
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>>59631199
That one girl who made the rant has been so vindicated for simping for her
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Just played against three fucking trick rooms in a row. What is it with TR being so popular in bottom of the barrel master ball?
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>>59631262
it's easy to play
me set trick room, me click spread move
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>>59631262
Because it's easy to set up now that you cannot fake out the setter thanks to the psychic terrain
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>>59631262
It gets hard countered by Wide Guard(Pelipper, mirror Armarouge, Gallade, Aerodactyl, to name a few), and Indeedee-M w/ Imprison.
It also outright gets raped by the Pod and Kingambit.
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>>59630135
>Olivia Molestkids
>tranny
you cant make this shit up
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>>59631202
My wife(Gardevoir, Female) and her sister(Gallade, Male) who is also my wife, are all Female.
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>launch at LEAST 10 attacks into an espathra boosted archaludon before it kills my team
>not a single crit, any of which would have killed

okay game, only give them when it doesn't matter
i'm putting perish song on my Politoed just for this cancer strat
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>>59631295
Really think they need to change this so Dark types aren’t affected by it. Psychic moves cannot hit them so it doesn’t make sense why psychic terrain affects them.
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>>59631404
dark types don't need more after the prankster nerf
maybe make bugs immune to it instead
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>>59629846
Which site?
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>>59629720
It's a meta merchant.
The stars lined up perfectly for it during this regulation. Somehow.
The second we get out of this reg it'll go down the shitter.
Screencap this.
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>>59631404
steel samurai hands typed this post
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>>59631391
Espachudon players HATE this ONE simple trick!
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>>59631602
tfw i'm already using her but it's the support variant cause i need the rage powder
struggle bug slows down the spatk boosting at least
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>>59631152
Is it sun/rain + Garchomp Z?
I think that's going to be the newest oppressive team for a bit. Garchomp Z is really good into the matchups that Zard didn't like, such as Raichu and Mence.
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>Rios team
>they ALWAYS lead ChompZ Volc
>I go Perish mode and rape them to forfeiture
LMAO
it's not like the team is ill equipped but they only know to lead that way
granted it was MB4 but still
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>>59631262
you need to remember that Pod doesn't need to mega, baits fire attacks, and devastates terrain setters. it even learns rock slide for punishing Zardtards.
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Bug GODS, what's the current meta spread for Volcarona?
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>>59631831
you want to use as support or as a setup mon??
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>>59631705
Was "old" sun/rain+pod. Super big pod enjoyer but I think with Z and raichu being everywhere atm they aren't great matchups for the pod (Raichu is easily doable but I have to play fairly well for a win and it isn't by any means free)
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>>59631891
Either is fine. I just want to get some bug action going.
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>>59632040
Do you have Rilla?
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>>59632041
I have everything available, but I'm tired of the team I'm currently using to be honest.
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>>59632049
This is a bulky setup Volcarona.
The 7 points in speed allows it to outspeed RaichuY and Mega Mence at +1.
Struggle bug is a spread debuff that ruins psyspam and neither Mence nor Raichu wants that -1. Fiery Dance is an offensive setup move that gives you +1.
grassy seed gets you bulky enough on the physical to survive quite a lot.
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is Scizor (non-mega) any good?
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>>59632092
With the way the current meta is no, just because of golisopod there is a lot of hate that will also catch scizzor and it's stabs don't particularly measure up well to the current top threats.

As fun as life orb technician bulltet punch is.
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I’m running imprison mega delphox. You just auto win vs hard trick room lol. Fuck you lol.
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>>59632108
what is your rating
i cant imagine you being that high up if you're running mega delphox with 2 slots
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>>59632113
I’m 1900s-2000s range.
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>>59632113
It’s a real tech. I played vs someone using it the GC. You can tell they couldn’t find a line into hard trick room
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Why are we suprised people put imprison on random mons to heat hard trick room?
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>>59632124
because it's dedicating 2 slots to a specific playstyle that i see in maybe 10% of games
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Until Ursaluna shows up, TR doesn't have its champion. The TR megas aren't worth the price of entry when weather teams and balance is winning the events.
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>>59632066
Very nice. That seems like such a pain to deal with.
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>>59632145
Ain't doing shit to GODlisopod
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How do you guys determine what EV spreads to use on a lot of Pokemon sets? A lot of high end play seems optimized for specific things, so I'm wondering how to keep track of it all or even find out. Like, speccing a Pokemon to OHKO a meta threat with very specific EV spreads or to take a hit, how do I keep up with the ever changing meta numbers if that makes sense? My tard brain wants to default to 32/32/2 but I won't win any tourneys that way.
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>>59632183
>click on Aaron Zhang video
>see team overview
>rip off team
>profit
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>>59632190
I do that if I'm just laddering but I want to actually improve my competitive skill and knowledge
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>>59632183
You have to just start doing calcs for common threats you see.
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>>59632210
Is it really just trial and error where its like
>okay gholdengo is common, if i optimize 27 spa evs i can always ohko it with this spread
>it didnt ohko in this match (or maybe a few), i should adjust, now its working
>repeat
And its just a cycle of adjusting continuously?
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>>59632219
I like to calc only for "max" spreads so you don't have to constantly adjust

for example, can I calc something to live max spatk modest gholdengo life orb make it rain? if yes, go for it and theres no need to invest more ever again - if not, don't bother guessing every time I see one and invest in something else
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>>59632222
Yep, treat it like a ladder.
If there's no way to survive a particular attack then you choose the next most common meta threat that gives you a headache to calc around.
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>>59632219
i look at the most used defensive EVs in game and try to play around them. if the most ran is say 0 def i try to play around 16 def to accommodate for variation
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>>59632222
Quads of truth, this makes sense. Gonna try doing this, thanks anon
>>59632230
Also a good strat, I guess just look at poketubers or tournament results where applicable to figure out what the most common spreads are?
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>>59632236
you can check what people are running in game and what percentage are running it
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>>59632237
That makes more sense, I'm just a tard. Thanks anon
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snarl k-arcanine is low-key annoying as shit to deal with
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>>59632092
maybe if you really hate foideedee and fagrig
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>>59632239
why
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>>59632361
le fake out
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>>59632361
>2027
But it's still 2026...
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>>59632389
it's to qualify for 2027
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>>59632361
golisopod bros i thought it was our time...
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>>59632441
being a niche but still totally viable choice is right where i want him to be honestly
if pod became the new charizard it wouldn't be cool anymore
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Anyone got a good Mega Garde team they don't mind sharing? hard stuck 1600.
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>>59632361
Still utterly insane they didn’t take any moves away from Megamence or the rape ape. Did any Pokemon introduced in M-C lose any moves?
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>>59632546
politoed lost pound (lol) and archaludon lost mirror coat and metal burst
jappas only paying attention to singles
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>>59632546
Ape lost final Gambit killing its scarf set
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>>59631262
Because it's a noob trap architype. The flowchart nature makes it very easy to learn, and it gets fast, easy wins against unskilled opponents, so new players gravitate to it. The problem is it has a low ceiling. Skilled players know exactly what you're trying to do and know how to stop it; you're basically playing OTS if you play hard trick room.
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Running Modest Kommoo seems extremely greedy to me, at +1 Timid you outspeed even Chomp Z max max. However most sets run modest, is it because no 151 speed mega runs speed nature?
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>>59632628
because you want it to be good outside of clangorous soul
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I almost hit MB1 yesterday and now I'm falling down to MB4 :)))
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we need flutter mane
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>>59632361
>all these dragons
Where are the fairies
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>>59632708
getting their asses plapped by sneasler and gholdengo
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it's kinda nuts how much surviving ice beam helps zchomp in comparison to salamence

if I lead dnite politoed into mence they almost always cower in fear and let me get a free tailwind, but the chomps can play much more aggressively knowing they live it
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>playing a best of three on Showdown
>lose game 1
>win game 2
>think I've called his adjustment for game 3 and lead accordingly
>get next leveled and he calls me
>his Make it Rain misses
>next turn his Head Smash misses
>I get a crit
God has given me a win I didn't deserve and I know to quit while I'm ahead.
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>>59632728
h-arc players are gambling addicts, he deserved it
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>>59632728
Getting a win you don't deserve is particularly devilish
>be me, down to just garchomp in yellow bar against 2 pokemon full health
>both have super effective moves and out speed
>both miss due to sand veil
>crit and one shot both with earthquake
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>>59632614
Rage fist doesn't work the same anymore either, resets on switch.
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>>59632641
lowest quality answer possible. it being Timid also helps to outspeed many mons like arch, hrk9 and other base 85-90 mons running bulkier spreads. a meagre 10% damage boost doesn't change much before a clangorous soul, it's still plenty weak
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>>59632759
don't be rarted modest LO unboosted kommo actually has a chance to straight up ohko spdef arch which is not at all possible with timid and guarantees ohko on clanging-ing bulky dragons
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i could probably use one less slot on my team by just compressing krookodile and dragonite into the same role with zarchomp

...but i don't wanna
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>>59632614
the fake out + set up slop meta has me really missing my kamikaze monke
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Why is lightning rod so bugged
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I haven't missed a single heat wave since changing from mega delphox to regular delphox to spam expanded force
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>scarf sturdy Archaludon
Okay bro
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ayo, hold up.
>Miltank
>100 Speed
>thick fat
>learns rock slide
>we got the Goat that's weak to fire instead
the Zard agenda is real.
>>59632939
that's me. probably. arch is already amazing and you've probably seen the same eletro shot rain team a googillion times.
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For me, it's lickylicky, I want a non dragon cloud nine user
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>>59632959
What was the rest of your team. I probably played you and lost.
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Is Kommo-o incredibly underrated right now?
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>>59633024
it seems properly rated, it's gotten some use on tournament teams
like volc it's kept from getting completely out of control due to the most popular mega being a flying move dispenser
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>>59632983
Machamp, Dragonite, Sceptile, Raichu, Chandelure,
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>>59633031
Okay, but what if I got the zomp on my side?
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>>59633063
very weak to fairies then
but getting somewhere
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>>59633074
That's a fair point. Damn.
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>>59633058
Hmm definitely not you then. I faced a guy with a Politoed and I think half Armarouge Indeedee trick room psychic terrain Golisopod team. He had a much gayer team.
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Odds, I play PsySpam as my next team. Evens, I play Perish trap.

Digits, I play something truly retarded like Raichu X
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if i get rock slide flinched i afk until i lose
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I picked this up yesterday. I'm surprised they're so generous for a free mobile game. I thought they'd give you worthless pokemon with bad natures and movesets then force you to spend money to fix it, but no.

That said, I'm already annoyed by Charizard Y so there's no way I'm playing for long.
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>1400s to 1200s on bo3 ladder
my team really became outdated within 24 hours. theres gotta be some prep group scouting teams on ladder
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>think i won after like 15 minutes of grueling jostling for position
>opponent sends out 4th guy i completely forgot about
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happy birthday 4chan
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>start using zard again
>start winning more games
people disrepecting the fuck outta this mon lol
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>click rock slide with Sneasler
bye bye Zardo.
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>>59633355
speaking of rock slide i recently dropped extreme speed on my hisui arcanine for it lol
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Apparently this is a thing.
>no need to own a switch for starter, but still need one if you want to participate in official tournaments
Well, $7 is $7
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>>59633351
its just feels like im playing vgc on easy mode, like when i played big 6 in ma and mb
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>>59633360
at that point just run it over head miss instead, you don't need 2 rock moves
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>>59633355
my zard lives this

32+ Atk Sneasler Rock Slide vs. 20 HP / 32 Def Mega Charizard Y: 132-156 (76.3 - 90.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
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>>59633351
>psy spam galore, so now wide guard is a common move
What are you supposed to counter with that silly lizard?
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>>59633408
its not a counter for anything, zardy just hits hard, thats why i like it. any other shit i try to use im horrible with. i have played charizars since reg h of last year, on the Marco sun team.
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>>59633360
HArcanine should get accelerock to own Zard harder than it already does.
>>59633390
>Dragonite used extremespeed.
>WOW! That didn't take much!
>Charizard is down for the count.
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Mega Bax should have gotten Baked Body or whatever that bread doge has. Not total immunity to Fire is just meh
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>>59632910
How useful is Delphox in PsySpam with M-Garde? I know Imprison is a tech they run on it to cuck the mirror.
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>game winning draco meteor misses and I go on to lose

Alright, I'm done using this fraudulent ass move. Dragon Pulse is close enough. Fuck it.
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>>59632808
thing is, most Kommoo run Leftovers and Modest, you hardly see any LO because due to clangorous you basically kill yourself very fast
Also
>+1 32 SpA Kommo-o Aura Sphere vs. 32 HP / 11+ SpD Archaludon: 198-234 (100.5 - 118.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
this is the OHKO breakpoint. 32/11 is a lot and if you invest more in spdef it hardly even kills back
>23 SpA Archaludon Dragon Pulse vs. 2 HP / 0 SpD Kommo-o: 132-156 (86.8 - 102.6%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO
I'd much rather outspeed it at +0 and pick it off from 70% than risk being slower than that, chompz and scarf basculegion speed tier mons. Bulky dragons really don't exist in this format and Dnite mega won't get ohkod either way. i will try Modest eventually but for my current team i don't see it, modest is for when you boost at least twice and i never really can during matches
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>getting critted out of what would otherwise be great positions for like the 5th game in a row
hasn't stopped my win streak yet but this is getting silly
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the gen 6 nerf to dragon pulse in addition to meteor was dumb and unnecessary

accounting for accuracy, two draco meteors have an effective BP of 185 (130*.9 + 75*.9)
when pulse had base 90 (thus 180 for two) it was as close as possible to being dead on equal with a 130 BP meteor, with your preference between the two depending on whether you prefer tempo or consistency

now two pulses is just mathematically worse than two dracos, which makes gambling the optimal play, which feels like shit
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>>59633591
>the gen 6 nerf to dragon pulse in addition to meteor was dumb and unnecessary
Don’t forget introducing fairies and making them immune to dragon moves. Type immunities have always sucked.
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>>59633606
fairies were a necessary evil, they just should have given them a third weakness (probably bug or something) so it didn't immediately become an elite defensive type instead of just a dragon check, and not give their obligatory 100% single target move 95 BP for some godforsaken reason
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>>59633338
Bots do. Set your matches to private. But also one day isn't a long enough collection period. Sometimes you're just having a bad day.
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>>59633606
The Dragon immunity makes no sense either since Fairies in lore usually steer clear of Dragons with the exception of Witches who are usually half-Fairy and half-Human in those mythos.
Also the fact that outside of Gardevoir, most Fairy-types have insane bulk on both the Physical and Special Side of the Spectrum where it at least takes two neutral STAB hits to take them out.
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>took the entire season before I got back to MB3
The fact that I started closer this time and somehow fucked up, pissed me off.
Like this shit wasn't even difficult, but I kept misplaying and fucking up predicts.
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>>59633650
anti dragon tech in stories are usually made of magic
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>>59633466
It doesn’t fucking need this. Thermal exchange is fine
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>>59633650
Like >>59633684 said it's usually magic item that enables the hero to beat the dragon, so...
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changed my zard spread to timid to outspeed the harcs and its done wonders.
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>>59633913
Most of them are going timid now
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>Charizard X 1
>Adamant 1
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>>59633918
I think I ran into this fucker earlier today.
My Mega Garde clung to dear life after taking a Flare Blitz from it and getting burned.
The Rillaboom fucked up though cause she was trapped in a perpetual state of Schröndingers Status. Sitting at 12 HP indefinitely.
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Did people really write of meowstic despite having competitive and prankster from the start?
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>>59633968
well, Pod happened so a frail Psychic type isn't the best idea right now.
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is bulky basc a waste of time over just maxing speed and attack?
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>>59634004
You should survive grassy glide, may inadvertently survive sucker punch from Gambit too.
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Read this guys soul. Take this weak shit somewhere else. Not around here.
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>starter pack is switch only
they really don't want my money then? I would like 50 more spaces in the box.
anyway feels good getting back to MB2 with a team I built myself
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>>59634058
>players who buy the switch and the games are rewarded
Why act shocked?
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>>59634189
it's so fucking gay
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>>59634058
I used a family member's switch to buy the pack then went back to my phone.
100 slots is not fucking enough anymore even with Pokemon Home strats and it's gonna get worse.



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