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so do you think red and blue oak are gay or not?
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Yes. His name is Red Oak because he took on Blue's surname after they got married
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Yes. Red received tax benefits after him and Blue Oak got married
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>>59631554
You can tell Red has never been in a relationship with anyone since he still dresses like a 10 year old. He's gotta be asexual or something, dude has zero sex drive or interest in relationships.
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>>59631583
He's just like me...
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>>59631583
>10 year old fassion is when cap, graphic tee, and denim
???
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>>59631568
>>59631573
>married
I wonder what their wedding outfits would have looked like
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>>59631554
>>59631573
>>59631727
>Gay
>Married
Isn't that an oxymoron?
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>>59631600
mayed for BRC
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>>59631776
maybe in pokemon world, red and blue can get legally married in their country
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>>59631583
red can dress fancily
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yes and it's extremely hot
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>>59631554
Yea, they had a tropical honeymoon
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>>59632385
isn't it amazing how two of the most iconic video game characters could be gay?

REPRESENTATION
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>>59631554
i think even dena which runs pokemon masters ships them

https://www.tumblr.com/infizero/627706103304798209/pokemon-masters-originalshipping-masterpost
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>Blue calling the player

>"I'm Blue. Man, this guy called Red brought me down in a heartbeat. I haven't seen him in a long time...I wonder where he is and what he's up to… Come to think of it, you look a little bit like Red. Yeah, you do. Just...Just a little bit. Whatever..."
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>>59631554
No. They were 90s kids. We were extremely homophobic amd not on the actually closeted way.
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>>59633100
But even if everyone was homophobic, just by chance there'd still be a few gay people in the population
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>>59632435
I love all the fan SM Leaf designs. Wish she acutally showed up. IDK how canon she is, thought.
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>>59631554
if Red is mute, how do you think they're handling the relationship?
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>>59633319
As someone who played FRLG as my first pokemon game, I wish Leaf showed up too somewhere. also i recall that original fan redesign had a 04 top for the game she was in

the Pokemon company practically fuelled the yaoi bait by having Red and Blue show up together alone lol
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>>59631554
on AO3, it's the most popular ship in the pokemon franchise.

though that's just ao3. fanfiction.net ships are probably different
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>>59631554
Why else would two 28-year-olds travel together to a tropical region?
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Does Professor Oak have two grandsons? Blue and Gary. With both of them being arrogant rival-types, just being on two different levels with Blue becoming Champion for a short time (before getting dethroned by Red).

Red and Blue woke up early that morning in Pallet Town, claiming two of the three pokemon. Gary got the third. Ash woke up late, all three pokemon were gone so he was stuck with Pikachu. That all makes sense, right?
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>>59633829
i'm not deep enough into pokemon lore to know anything that could disprove this theory
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>>59633325
if ghetsis and giovanni and red and blue could be in sun and moon, why didn't they put in leaf?
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Those are Red and Green Oak.
Oak are trees and I never saw a blue tree. Oak trees are green. He is even using green legs, green shoes and a shirt with green buttons.
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>>59633325
Leaf only exist in the remake. FRLG is a remake.
Canon history is still Red and Green, not their remakes. Leaf is also basically just trans-Red, since they have the same mom, same house, etc... they don't exist together.

I didn't played SM, but I belive those 2 are there because they got invited, since they're both League Champions, not because they're a couple date-traveling the world.
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>>59633821
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>>59634028
>not because they're a couple date-traveling the world.
>>59634037

what if they were date-travelling the world, someone heard they were in the area, then they got called to be bosses of the Battle Tree temporarily?
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>>59634028
Screw canon, I want Leaf
>since they have the same mom, same house
just make them twins or something
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>>59634028
>Leaf is also basically just trans-Red
*genderbent Red, ftfy
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>>59634066
They don't exist in the same universe.

Leaf is just Femboy Red.
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>>59631554

Leaf exists in Pokemon Masters, and is still Blue's rival, but he doesn't talk about them equally. He obsesses over Red

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Blue_(game)/Quotes

Ctrl F Leaf, whole word: 24
Ctrl F Red, whole word: 109

Clearly Blue has a preference
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>>59631554
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>>59634024
>Green
that reminds me that one version of the ship name between Red and Oak is called Reguri
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>>59635550
Red: ...............................................................................................................................................................................................................
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>>59631554
I am starting to see the vision after finding this artist's illustrations of fem Red x Blue
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>>59635571
>fem Red
is that any different from giving leaf a haircut?
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>>59635574
The only snake Red should be dealing with is mine
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why was Blue so depressed
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>>59634028
>they're a couple date-traveling the world.
Didn't those two also appear in the Unova Pokemon World Tournament?

(without Leaf too)
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>be Red
>get tasked to train noobs
>beats the shit out of them
>wins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YC2LJcjX7U
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>>59633320
Red lets his cock do the talking.
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>>59637522
Blue is often put as the bottom in namelessshipping artworks

not complaining, but idk why
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>Be Leaf
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>>59637678
>Be the biggest third wheel
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>>59631554
His name is GREEN!
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>>59634024
>>59637696
Tell it.
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>>59635696
He was the Kanto/Johto champion for five minutes, got his ass kicked, and got yelled at by his grandpa in front of Red. That's why.
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>>59631554
Yes.
They went to Hawaii together as a couple.
It’s not fully gay though since Red is trans.
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>>59637899
i know he was sad after we kicked his ass, but i didn't know we'd make him nearly suicidal :(
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>>59637680
LET'S GAZE INTO EACH OTHER'S EYES
without leaf
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>>59638108
you would be too if you didn't have living parents and the famous professor oak was your grandpa and he personally hated you and preferred your neighbour over you
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>>59638512
imagine being red and coming down the mountain only to find out Blue escape-roped himself while you were gone
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>>59638522
>"Hey Blue! i'm now an ex-champion... oh."
>Red checks Blue's pockets
>"Dammit! He didnt leave his starter behind for me..."
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>>59631554
red's bisexual, blue's gay.
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>>59639048
why isnt blue bi too?
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>>59639608
he'd talk a lot more about leaf if he was
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>>59631554
CANON FACT

Blue has magazines in his room!

If you look at them in HGSS, you can see he likes to look at Adorable Pokemon!
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>>59639040
u better be glad red, because his starter would recognise you as the dude that beat blue in the championship
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>>59631554

https://youtu.be/aSRwrhQhH1Q?t=204

>Be Blue
>Be in an event with Serena
>OH BOY I CAN'T WAIT TO SHOW MY MEGA EVOLUTION TO MY RED
>Everyone praises my rivalry with Red


>Be Leaf
>Neither of your rivals want to hang out with you
>have to hang out with Kieran
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>>59640347
if only leaf and green could hang out...
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>>59632445
The pokemon center was filled with rainbow flags the day that dropped

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5INUfwiYQAY
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>>59637572
Red owned his ass in battle, now owns his ass in the bedroom, that's why.
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>>59637680
BLUE IS THE PROBLEM HERE!

> Selection screen (forming team with Blue)*

> Leaf: "Bluuue, stop trying to stand out on your own!"

> Selection screen (forming team with Red)*

Leaf: "When Red and I are together, nothing scares us!"

> Selection screen (forming team with Leaf)*

Blue: "Leaf? Sorry, but you won't get your turn this time."

> Selection screen (forming team with Red)*

Blue: "There is no way we're losing with me here, Red!"


Why tf is he third wheeling Leaf so hard?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ3myCMjzMM
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Red was going to appear beside Blue in the lets go games but they changed it

https://tcrf.net/Proto:Pok%C3%A9mon:_Let%27s_Go,_Pikachu!_and_Let%27s_Go,_Eevee!/May_12,_2018/Script_Differences
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>>59631554
>>59642064
>NOOOO LEAF, YOU CAN'T BE ALONE WITH RED! I HAVE TO BE THERE TOO!

https://youtu.be/kdbhsnVSXRc?t=686
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why does Blue stand like this when battling
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>>59642469
they made the game worse...
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>>59642064
>makes Leaf into the third wheel of the Kantrio
>annoys Misty and Flannery by bragging about himself

I don't think it's a mystery why he doesn't have a girlfriend

https://youtu.be/eJEZ1Un8g4g?t=50
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There were leaked Sun and Moon animations this year? Does anyone know more about it? All I can see is a screenshot of it -_-
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Nemona can understand Red
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https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Blue_(game)/Quotes

> Random conversation (Anniversary 2026)

"If you wanna be a top-level Trainer, you gotta do more than train to win battles."
"You also gotta make sure your clothes and manners are classy and dignified."
"You can look to me as your example!"

>classy
after this?
>>59644402

lolwut
has anyone EVER thought of blue as classy?
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>>59644797
blue can also understand red
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>>59644797
in that comic's bottom left panel, Leaf is so happy that someone else can understand Red, while Blue looks annoyed because he's got the sweat drop on his face, his brows are going down, there's lines on his speech bubble

looks like he's doesn't want someone else coming close to his boy
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leaf having to deal with Blue's tsundere bullshit. It comes across as an awkward confession

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV9rqA0-2OU

Leaf Hm? Is everything OK, Blue?
Blue Red...
I challenge you to a battle! Right here, right now!
Leaf B-Blue! What are you doing? We don't have time for that right now!
Besides, if your Pokémon get hurt, they won't be able to give one hundred percent in our battle with <player>'s team!
Blue I know that... It's just...
Leaf Well then, can't this wait?
The three of us are supposed to be a team right now.
Blue ... ... ...
Yeah, I know we're a team. And maybe I'm just being selfish.
But honestly...
I'm not even sure why I joined this team in the first place...
Leaf What?
Blue Leaf, when you first approached us and we started this team together...
It wasn't BAD, per se... Fighting on a team with you two was even kinda fun.
But when we started facing tougher opponents, I felt myself starting to rely on you, Red. And then it hit me...
Why should I get pushed to the side while you get the spotlight?
I'm not your right-hand man—I'm your rival!
Leaf Blue...
Red ... ... ...
Blue Lemme guess... Nothing to say, Red?
Look at me, getting all worked up while you stand there all cool...
Whatever, it's fine. Now's not the time. Just forget I said anything, all right?
C'mon, let's go! We're gonna be late!
Leaf O-OK...
Red ... ... ...
...I accept your challenge!
Leaf Red...
Blue Red...
Red ... ... ...
Leaf *chuckle* Oh, you two...
Are you really that surprised? You guys are rivals.
Of course he wants to battle you, too!
Blue So it wasn't just me?

>be blue
>OH NO RED, I CAN'T BELIEVE I STARTED RELYING ON YOU! (and nothing about leaf lol)
>cue sappy music
>B-baka, its not like I like you or anything! WE HAVE TO FIGHT NOW!
>leaf is done with my bullshit
>red isn't even reacting to my confession
>tell everyone to pretend i didn't confess anything
>red returns my feelings somehow
>it worked!
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https://youtu.be/_8S-Gk7rtM4?t=69

blue talking shit about leaf

"Leaf's my friend AND my rival!"
"She's pretty good when it comes to battling!"
"But just between you and me..."
"The other day, I saw her nuzzling Eevee and Venusaur. Just cuddling away."
"That's a little much, don't ya think?"

https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonMasters/comments/168zqv4/leaf_trainer_lodge_part_2/

Apparently the japanese and chinese translation have it that Leaf was literally smelling her pokemon
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Remember when the official account posted this?
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>>59647441
this implies that gary is dating ash and that blue would date ash too if he met him
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>>59644402
why is misty complaining here? Blue literally defeated her with a weaker team than he has nowadays and got to become champion for a few minutes, i think it's fair to say that we WOULD actually learn more from the ex-champion than from the person whose entire job is to get kicked around by 10 years old children with dogshit teams
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>>59647622
If you were a person whose entire job is to get kicked around by 10 years old children with dogshit teams, you'd might be upset about someone bragging about being better than you, even if they were right
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Red smiling when he's identified :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQT13ghzFUk
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>>59648705
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>>59631554
They made Blue look like the biggest powerbottom in history so yeah I'm convinced they threw fujos a bone and made them look gay as subtly as possible since they need all plausible deniability they can get
It's always been a popular pairing and it's got all classical yaoi ship tropes (rivals, stoic brooding guy & chill smug guy etc.)
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>>59648705
>>59648718
they sure like giving him personality despite being originally a stoic silent protagonist
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>>59647611
At this rate, everybody wants to date Ash

https://youtu.be/MwY4DTlOzRo?t=1006
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>>59648837
You can be stoic and silent and have a personality. Being those things define his personality, even.
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>>59636331
>be red
>gigantamax a snorlax within a building even though it might kill everybody
>no shits given

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV5aMFCJGog
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>>59646983
if Leaf smells pokemon, and Blue smells people later in English localisations, what does Red smell?
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Homosexuality does not exist in the Pokeverse.
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>>59649578
I reckon Steven and Wallace have got a thing going on
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>>59649589
And so does Barry
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>>59649589
Wallace is basically Pokeverse’s Prince. He dresses like that specifically attracting women.

>>59649595
Once more, you are projecting your own homosexuality onto heterosexual characters.
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>>59649626
>Once more, you are projecting your own homosexuality onto heterosexual characters.
Not when the company drops these story events on Valentines day. More like you're projecting your own heterosexuality on these characters
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>>59649578
>official pokemon twitter posts this on Valentines day

To celebrate the release of "PokéCute Collection," the "Message Card Pocket" is now available for download! The two from Team Aqua and Team Magma seem to be getting along surprisingly well!

https://x.com/Pokemon_cojp/status/698069043584995328
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>>59649578
I would like for Homosexuality to exist in the Pokeverse
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>>59649653
Now show me where in the game or within the pokeverse you see this.
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>>59649689
Only if it’s female.
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>>59649578
It does. They just aren't allowed to spell it out, only imply it. Just like pokephilia.
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>>59649699
There is far more suggesting in universe that pokephilia goes on than homosexuality. There are no implications of homosexuality other that what you headcanon.

Heterosexuality is literally a function of this game. Homosexuality is non-existent.
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>>59649578
>posting this in a thread about whether Red and Blue are gay when they went off to "do our own thing" in an event that was released on Valentines Day. And the pokecenter was filled with rainbows.
>>59640943
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>>59649707
>mobileshit
lol
lmao
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>>59649704
>Heterosexuality is literally a function of this game.
Only among Pokémon, we're obviously talking about humans.
There's plenty of implied homosexual human characters, you just refuse to acknowledge them cause you're retarded.
>>59649711
>D-d-doesn't count!!
Lol.
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>>59649711
>mobileshit
official and approved by the pokemon company mobileshit
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>>59649713
There are none but you scream there are because you yourself are a faggot desperate for their to be.
Any homosexuality is a mistake or comical.

>>59649713
Mobileshit absolutely doesn’t count, I’m sorry this hurts your brain.
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>>59649717
>Go is canon
lmao you trannies are hilarious.
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>>59649718
It does count. It's literally official media. Facts don't care about your feelings, honey.
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>>59649723

>Their character writing gets checked

https://web.archive.org/web/20220524194747/https://www.pokemon.com/uk/pokemon-news/we-interview-denas-yu-sasaki-about-pokemon-masters/

Pokemon.com: How do you flesh out characters who have had minimal screen time in the Pokémon RPGs? Did you work with people at The Pokémon Company to make sure your new details were in canon?

Mr. Sasaki: We have worked with The Pokémon Company closely on details in the game, and they have of course checked our new details to make sure they fit in the world of Pokémon. One of the major new features of this game—and the content that we want to highlight—is the interaction between various Trainers. Players will be able to enjoy new and exciting interactions between Trainers who may not have interacted before.

To create these interactions, we considered the personalities and backgrounds of these Trainers and made sure that our content did not deviate from that. If a character would never say or do a certain thing, we made sure that they do not in our game.
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>>59649739
>If a character would never say or do a certain thing, we made sure that they do not in our game.

so Red and Blue WOULD go on a Valentines date together! :D
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>>59649739
But anon it doesn't count because it disproves my poi- Uhm, I mean because... well... uhm... b-because phones are bad!
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>>59649578
it does but it's only implied, just like pokephilia
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>>59649707
>>59649739
so if the Pokemon Company are fine with official material implying that Blue and Red could be dating each other, around when did they start thinking that it's okay for him to be gay?
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>>59649578
Oh yeah? Then explain this.
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And this
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And also this
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>>59649739
Translation:
>Mobile games are non canon universes to get extra money from the trannies who buy this slop and we will never put this in a mainline game where it actually matters.
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>>59650434
Cope
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>>59646229
Blue doesn't need to worry, because Nemona is gay too

image is from After the Rain With You pokemon manga

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/After_the_Rain_With_You
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>>59650438
It even got a music video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shZyg5VFI1Y
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>>59649933
>implied
Pokephilia actually happens.
There is no implication of homosexuality in Pokemon.
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>>59650411
>>59650423
>>59650424
it's funny how different older namelessshipping artworks are from the newer ones post sun-moon that tend to portray Red as the bigger buffer guy.

>>59631554
Red has bigger arm muscles than Blue in the Sun and Moon artwork. It's almost as if the Pokemon company said they wanted it to be the other way around, and Blue should be the flamboyant twink.
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blue, do you even throw pokeballs?
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>>59643907
He's thinking of which mon to send out to battle
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>>59650324
Gen 3,then again for gen 7
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>>59650816
Their arms look almost the same lmao
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>>59651063
that just makes it more embarrassing because Red's arms are a very achievable goal yet Blue skips arm day enough to not even achieve that
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"Alright Gramps! Leave it all to me! <player> I hate to say it, but you won't be necessary for this. I know! I'll borrow a Town Map from my sis! I'll tell her not to lend you one, <player>! Hahaha! Don't bother coming around to my place after this!"

"Hey! <player>! You're off to the Pokémon League? Forget about it! You probably don't have any Badges, do you? The guard won't let you through without them. By the way, did your Pokémon get any stronger?"

"Hey, guess what? I went to Bill's and got him to show me his rare Pokémon. That added a lot of pages to my Pokédex! After all, Bill's world famous as a PokéManiac. He invented the Pokémon Storage System on PC, too. Since you're using his system, go thank him. Well, I better go rolling! Smell ya later!"

"Oh yeah, right. I feel sorry for you. No, really. You're always plodding behind me. So here, I'll give you a little present as a favor. A chatty gossip like you… That thing's perfect. I don't need it because I don't give a hoot about others. All right, this time I really am gone. Smell ya!"

>"I heard there was a Cut master on board. But he was just a seasick old man! Cut itself is really useful! Yup, it'll be handy. You should go see him, too. Smell ya!"

>Indigo Plateu

"Hey, <player>! I was looking forward to seeing you, <player>!/You came back, <player>! Hahah, that is so great! My rival should be strong to keep me sharp.

"Hey! <player>! What are you doing here in the Sevii Islands? You should quit copying me, you know? Anyways, I already got my Pokémon Egg so I'm done with this island. Heh, I bet you don't even know about Pokémon Eggs. You'll never fill your National Pokédex that way. By the way, I saw someone we both know on this island. Why don't you go look around if it makes you curious? Me, I don't have time to waste. Be smelling ya!"


>gives you tips and presents while insulting you
>says he's glad to see you

so tsundere
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>>59651527
Wait
>were all my bullies just secretly into me?
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>>59650324
gen 3 is where blue starts to look increasibly gayer
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>>59651527
how curious that blue happened to wait for us exactly in the places where team rocket was at and also was in the same room as the ss anne captain when the captain was vomiting
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>>59651778
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>>59651527
You just know Blue gets off on smelling things. He probably cums buckets simply from sniffing Red's undies.
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If the pokemon company wanted to put a gay couple in the mainline games, what do you think is the most they can do before the game gets censored in certain countries?
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>>59652009
Honestly even handholding might go too far. Mind you that physical affection between straight couples is also not really allowed to be shown according to CERO, not for "all ages" media I mean. I think the most we're getting is "they were roommates" type shit. Don't forget that Japan is still a very conservative country, and that Pokémon is so big that the government is likely involved to make sure that they maintain a clean image.
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>>59652009
The most they can do is what they've already been doing. Subtle little things that are open to interpretation, letting the player decide what's actually happening, like the two girls in ORAS where one has dialogue about thinking the door was locked, or the two guys in XY that are eating dinner together and get defensive about how it looks.
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>>59652098
>CERO
huh, i've learnt something new today. i've never really paid attention to the japanese ratings board until now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_Entertainment_Rating_Organization

also i learnt Masahiro Sakurai had beef with them

"In a 2015 compilation of columns that he wrote for Famitsu magazine, video game developer and Super Smash Bros. series creator Masahiro Sakurai criticized CERO for having stricter standards on sexual content than violence, citing conflicts that he had with the board over the character models for Palutena and Wonder Pink in Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U. According to Sakurai, the game was nearly delayed due to the developers needing to constantly revise the characters' models, which CERO considered "sexually provocative" due to the possibility that players could take upskirt shots with them. Sakurai claimed that these designs were never intended to be titillating, deriding CERO's demands as "ridiculous and frankly quite juvenile."[24][25]"

"Masahiro Sakurai expressed negative thoughts about Super Mario Odyssey's B rating. While he suggested that the rating might stem from the violence or interference directed at realistic characters and environments, such as those found in New Donk City, he notes that the content is comparable to Pixar films and hardly unsuitable for children. He questioned who actually benefits from such a rating, arguing it does not serve children, parents, retailers, Nintendo, or the industry and lamented that players find the classification out of touch, resulting in a situation where a high-quality game fails to reach its intended audience simply because of rigid rules.[26]"
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>>59652134
Yeah CERO got stricter recently? with skirts for example. AFAIK the new rules are also responsible for Peach going from having bloomers under her skirt in Brawl to having a full black void now in Ultimate, another thing Sakurai was pissed off about if I remember correctly.
Also the reason why recent Pokémon games have no skirts. It used to be allowed to just have spats under skirts in 3D games but that counts as "upskirt" now according to CERO and is not allowed in games for kids.

They are really strict. Even kissing is not allowed, that counts as "sexual". Yes even between straight couples.
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>>59652183
I dunno why I put a question mark in my first sentence, I think it was supposed to be a comma.
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>>59632435
Love her
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i love how Leaf fans have noticed Leaf has an existential crisis.

One of her quotes in Pokemon Masters is
"Am I also a living legend?"

Because Red gets nicknamed that ingame for what he's done, but Leaf isn't.

While Blue is willing to say that out loud
>>59646648
>Why should I get pushed to the side while you get the spotlight?

you wonder if Leaf feels the same
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>>59652854
funny how leaf can do the same things as red but still gets pushed aside anyways
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>>59652919
Blue looks like he's about to get Wood-Hammered by that Alolan Exeggutor in the next minute
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>>59646648
blue is stuck between crushing on red and wanting to be better than him as a rival, so acts like a mega-tsundere towards red

leaf can see her rivalry with blue is no match for red's rivalry with blue

>>59652854
>>59652890
leaf knows she's overshadowed by red, but always acts nice and sweet because she's his friend and it's not nice to be mean to the mostly mute boy, especially when she accompanies him as translator sometimes
e.g.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hQKjVYIdMQ

>>59642853
>>59642064

blue can get jealous when Leaf and Red are together. he wants red for himself and wants to impress red, which thirdwheels Leaf.


>>59637678
Red is fine being with Leaf alone, but only considers Blue to be his best friend, and not Leaf, even though Leaf is one of his translators.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-1SAWxJmP0

>>59631554
Leaf didn't show up in Alola

the kantrio is a beautiful shitshow
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>>59652854
>>59652890

When you beat Giovanni with Leaf, it unlocks a secret achievement called
"Aren't You Forgetting Someone?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPquCAmpHvo

In the Youtube comments:

> Appreciated I’m starting to think many require lore knowledge to unlock.
> The lore is that she wasn’t included in the story mode!
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>>59653417
>a literal cuck award for Leaf
Goddamn lmao
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>>59650324
I feel like it had to be Gen 4.

They didn't bother including Leaf in HeartGold Soul Silver even though many people would have played the Gen 3 games, but they were completely fine with adding Blue calling the player character out of nowhere just to talk about Red.

>I'm Blue. Man, this guy called Red brought me down in a heartbeat. I haven't seen him in a long time...I wonder where he is and what he's up to… Come to think of it, you look a little bit like Red. Yeah, you do. Just...Just a little bit. Whatever...

If they included Leaf, then Blue would have to talk about Leaf but that would sound straight
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>>59652945
I also want to hammer Blue with my wood
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this scene from pokemon origins was cute

https://youtu.be/mMidGgyov4g?t=805
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>>59654365
Gay
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>>59650816
At least he doesn't skip thigh day. Dat thigh muscle curve. Also it's thicker than Red
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>>59654733
red climbed a mountain and yet blue has stronger leg muscles?
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>>59655159
he spends a lot of time riding his bird. dude must have godly thigh grip by now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkMYkAa16pM

"Pidgeot can fly at Mach 2."
"Not only that, but he can pinpoint a Magikarp a thousand meters below him."
"High places are Pidgeot's territory, to the degree that he and I might spend more time in the skies than on land."
"Yeah, you got that right."
"We've been all over the world, but Pasio really is a nice place."
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>be red
>nearly mute
>somehow people keep requesting interviews from you
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Blue says his spiky hairstyle is because he styles it that way

Random conversation

"Pidgeot's my pride and joy. You should see how fast he can fly!"
"He can even carry me and fly to different towns!"
"My hair does get completely ruined by the time we reach our destination, though."

If spoken to again

"Don't you think my hair looks great?"
"I put a lot of effort into it so that it doesn't get messed up even when I'm flying with Pidgeot."


Do you reckon he's a natural redhead too, or he's one of those chapatsu people that bleaches and dyes their hair?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapatsu

Chapatsu (茶髪/ちゃぱつ), literally "brown hair" in the Japanese language,[1] is a style of bleaching (and occasionally dyeing) hair, found among Japanese teens. The style was once banned at Japanese schools and became a widespread topic of the civic right to self-expression, but discussion of the topic died down due to the ubiquity of the style.[2][3]

While the style itself began to show up in Tokyo streets during the early to mid-1990s, chapatsu was first described in Imidas, an annual publication of new words and concepts in the Japanese language, in 1997. Chapatsu did not appear in Kōjien, an authoritative dictionary of the Japanese language, until 1998. The style first gained popularity among adolescent girls, seeking to accentuate their tanned skin (rebelling against more traditional definitions of beauty), but quickly became mainstream.[2] By the mid-2000s, however, trends seemed to indicate that the "chapatsu" as a mainstream style was on its way out.[5] Although chapatsu died out as youth-centered fashion trend of rebellion, it came to be accepted not only on young people but also in certain business settings, and it was established before long as a Japanese fashion.[citation needed]
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easier to see if you get those pesky pants off and out of the way
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>>59656101
meant for >>59654733
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>>59656101
>how red and blue dress outside the battle tree when the 10 year old player character isn't looking
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imagine coming to Alola to do gay stuff but then your grandpa's cousin suddenly shows up

based on samson's quotes in sun and moon, Blue didn't tell him about arriving in Alola

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Samson_Oak/Quotes

If talked to again

"Oh, that cousin of mine in Kanto... He and I look remarkably alike, or so everyone always says. He's Samuel Oak, though. He actually is the one who gave me this Kanto region Pokédex that I carry with me now for comparison as I look into things here in Alola."
"Sam has a grandson, in fact, who is a pretty astounding Trainer himself. Boy's name is Blue. I actually sent him some Z-Crystals as well, so who knows? Maybe he'll come visit Alola, too, someday!"

After meeting Blue in the Battle Tree

"What! You met my grand-nephew Blue?! Well, if that doesn't just take the cake! It's like six degrees of Pokémon separation!"
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This thread survived until National Coming Out Day
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>>59654733
Honestly though, why did they make Blue so... shapely?
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>>59650487
>>59657165
Imagine if your self-insert showed up decades later, except he's the cute shapely one that looks like he's getting fucked in the ass by the rival you've named Asshat.
Gamefreak decided most people would want it the other way around.
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idk if the models get resized in games, or if the model rippers just ended up with different sized models, but it looks like Blue's model might actually be bigger than Red's.

Also he has a wide ass.
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Imagine wanting to be a power couple but you get relegated to trophy boyfriend/husband

https://youtu.be/QiOLwvhgWIU?si=GOUCKKwKS-PFbkqx&t=1043

>gets called a pretty good mentor
>loses to Red in the Neo-Championship storyline about mentoring anyway
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>>59649578
>>59649704
Kieran has an obvious crush on the player, regardless of their gender.
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>>59657509
Why does Blue have an ass nearly as big as Olivia's and thick thighs to match too
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>>59658143
Because he's a POWER BOTTOM
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>>59658143
jfc, his ass is bigger than Cynthia's AND Wicke's
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>>59658249
with how fat Blue's ass and thighs are, his leg day must consist of riding Red all day

He'd have the craziest leg locks too
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>>59656057
then
WHAT COLOUR ARE HIS PUBES?
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>>59657509
>>59658143
>>59658285
The ass was fat
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>>59658297
He rides Red Amazon-style, and you gotta have thick and strong thighs and ass muscles for that so you can ensure the guy is properly pinned and at your mercy. :)
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>>59658832
That's kind of hot
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>>59658832
Blue riding Red so hard that Red stops being silent and can't stop moaning
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>>59653878
>If they included Leaf, then Blue would have to talk about Leaf but that would sound straight
He'd probably still find a way to talk about Red, despite Leaf's presence, lmao.
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>>59659832
>be Leaf
>be on Mt Silver in this game
>meanwhile Blue
>GEE I SURE MISS MY BUDDY RED HE WENT OUT OF THE REGION I'VE GOT NO IDEA WHERE HE WENT
>You beat the trainer on top of Mount Silver?
>AWESOME DID SHE TELL YOU WHETHER SHE COULD SEE WHERE RED WENT FROM THAT HIGH UP?
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>Agatha and Blue were hiding behind a tree together

do you think they're related?

https://youtu.be/WNmFhw7-mTU?t=475
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>Rich enough to pay for all the food the Pokemon Masters player eats
>Says he eats better food than Red

"I hear you had an awesome match with Red! Keep up the good work!"
"It's my treat today. Let's celebrate!"

(Tell him you want to train.): "You're a strange one, you know that?"
"Noted! But first, get some food in you!"
"I'll help you with your training after that!"
(Tell him you're going to eat a lot.): "Haha! Go on, order as much as you want!"
"Once you've had your fill, I'll personally see to your training!"

"Be sure to sleep and eat well before you start something big. That's rule number one!"
"If you don't take care of yourself, your rivals will blow right past you."
"As for me, I've been making sure the meals I eat are better than what Red's having!"
Red must have a lot of fun on dinner dates if Blue is willing to pay for all the food
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>>59660087
Look at Agatha's quotes:

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Agatha/Quotes#Pok%C3%A9mon_Masters_EX

"Ah well... I guess it won't hurt to talk a bit."
"Do you know Oak? I've been stuck with him for a long, long time."
"That old duff was once tough and handsome! He's a shadow of his former self now."
"He does know and talk a lot about Pokémon, which might be why he's always surrounded by people. He used to shine so brightly."
"Compared to him, I'm the quiet type when it comes to Pokémon. I like to get lost in thought about them all by myself."
"I was doing what I liked, but that old duff Oak would not stop talking to me."
"I think he was just trying to be nice, but he was giving me help I had never asked for."
"He was taking up the time I wanted to spend in contemplation, so I thought I'd try to shut him up with a Pokémon battle."
"But back then, that old guy was strong—undefeated, in fact. Was he as good as me? He was better."
"So then I battled Oak again and again."
"At some point, the time I spent with him started meaning a lot to me."
"One day, all of a sudden, the old duff said he wanted to make a Pokédex."
"I told him that Pokémon are for battling, but he wouldn't listen."
"He wasted my precious time, and when he'd had enough of our battles, he left. Why do charming men have to be so meddlesome?"
"He trampled all over my youth, even though I never wanted anything to do with him in the first place."

"When I was young, I was reckless at times, and I had the perfect rival."

>a quiet person
>rivals to lovers
>extremely strong pokemon battler

Sounds familiar. Related or not, I can see why Blue and her are hanging out together
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>>59660419
what do they eat?
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>>59660087
Blue probably thought Red was up in that tree, somewhere.
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>>59661499
it's just left kind if vague, looks like a cafe of some sort

https://youtu.be/-E2CRBPXTvI?t=4
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>>59633829
How come Ash and Gary never became friends?
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>>59662158
Because Gary is a simp and like all pokegirls that had a crush on him, Ash doesn't have time for simps

In the japanese translation of this scene, Gary calls the moon beautiful

https://youtu.be/dHPTV4AHUyc?t=1146

https://www.tumblr.com/shigerussato/703400361893969920/the-japanese-version-of-this-scene-goes

also all his cheerleader girlfriends were hired

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Gary%27s_cheerleaders#Pocket_Monsters:_The_Animation

>In Pocket Monsters: The Animation, Gary's cheerleaders are explained to be hired by the mayor of Pallet Town, who is the older brother of Professor Oak and thus Gary's great-uncle.


Gary might as well be as gay as Blue
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>>59651842
is this why Red decided to wear full jeans to Alola

god, imagine that underwear stench by the end of the day
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Someone on Reddit discovered Red doesn't stick around in the lobby after you battle him in the pokemon world tournament

https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/1d10bb/til_if_you_battle_red_in_the_world_tournament_he/
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>>59651842
>>59662321
Blue is a smellfag confirmed
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>>59662336
He goes right back home to his husband
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>>59662355
>Be Blue
>Know Japanese
>Know French for Kalos
>Know English for Unova and Alola and Samson Oak

>Be Red
>Be overseas
>...
>Better find your husband
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Does Mt silver even have any food? Which pokemon do you think Red eats while on Mt Silver?
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>>59662745
Jejjj
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>>59662745
best part about being mute in the pokemon world is that red doesnt even have to understand the language in the places he goes to, he's popular enough that nobody expects him to speak up, he can just point at whatever item he wants in any shop, pokemon battles are universal enough that he can potentially go through an entire region and get all 8 badges without understanding a single word, and if anything comes up, blue can help him with it anyways
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIU2cPWvZUU

>Be Blue
>Says Red can be fooled
>Offers himself and Red as two options for battling
>Shakes his head and gets salty when you pick Red even though he made it an option

Damn it Blue, acting like that this early in the relationship?

They even added the headshake in Ultra Sun and Moon to make Blue look extra salty. It wasn't there in Sun and Moon.

https://youtu.be/B7hA72YWgL8?t=28
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when sun and moon was coming out, there were a bunch of fan comic dubs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLFKWQS3ZWw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-KiY6rTueM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Spd2BoziI0k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EbTGY-fDMI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPXyjnICzpk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX2wxSOvq-I
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"Congrats, kid! Boy, though, what a shock... I never thought a criminal would use a Pokémon Gym as their hideout... ... ... ... That's it! I've decided! I'll look after the Viridian City Gym from now on! I don't really like to get tied down, so I've always said no when they ask about it, but... I'm finally ready. I'll be the Gym Leader from now on."

>I don't really like to get tied down
>Is the Gym Leader
>Daisy says he's not often at the gym anyway

"But if you're gonna try your hand, I'd recommend you try sooner rather than later."
"We're as free as the wind, after all."
"If we get bored, we'll wander away to who knows where next."

Red, how are you going to prevent your husband from wandering away?
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>>59664650
LGPE is the universe where red and blue decided to marry instead of bothering to take giovanni down
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>>59631554
where the fuck are their parents? i know red has his mother, what does blue have apart from his sister and grandpa?

what about red's dad? does he even congratulate red on being champ? Is he even invited to his wedding?
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https://tcrf.net/Proto:Pok%C3%A9mon_Gold_and_Silver/Spaceworld_1997_Demo/Text

>Be Spaceworld Demo Blue
>MOST SIGNIFICANT LINES ARE TALKING ABOUT RED

I used to want to
be the strongest
POKéMON trainer.
When I got too
arrogant, there
was one who showed
me humility.
Somehow... you
remind me of him.

Thanks to him, I
was able to mend
my ways.
Since, I started
helping my grandpa
with his research.
... ...

Oh right! Here's
your POKéDEX!

It automatically
records data on
POKéMON you've
seen or caught!
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>>59665268
It's not like it's unusual in this series for one or both parents to be missing, so Red and Blue can pretty much fuck off wherever and fuck each other silly without having to plan and attend family obligations and such.
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>>59666116
Red's pikachu is the one from yellow, right? the one that doesn't evolve stays outside its pokeball?

imagine trying to fuck with that pikachu hanging around
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>>59656057
that means Red gets to see what Blue looks like in the morning before he styles his hair
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>>59650438
>>59650445

To be frank, Nemona is a special kind of lesbian.
Romance? Kissing? Sex? Nope, 6 vs 6 full force Pokemon combat ten times in a row, with short breaks in between to rush to PC to heal.

I'm pretty sure all her Pokemon have PTSD just from the sheer amount of fights they were in.
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>>59663954
Red saw Asshat and said yes to marrying him anyway.
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>>59660419
>likes to eat good food

>>59640347
>compliments May on dressing up too unlike Red and Leon
>>59645714
>likes fashion

No wonder he picked Kalos to study abroad
he's been saying Bonjour since he was 10 what a ouiaboo

He should get Red to come and go to all the best date spots
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>>59631554
They aren't gay. That's just the faggots and troons trying to co-opt every fandom and relationship withing said fandoms.

They're rivals and maybe friends. Nothing more.
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>>59667421
Red and Blue have been shipped way before the LGBT cult started. They have nothing to do with this. This ship is older than most of the zoomer troons you see online.
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>>59634983
it's surprising how old they've been thinking up of convoluted ways to make them say gay stuff. it's official material too

source for other scans and translations of the 4komas
https://www.tumblr.com/shuukanae/746578338027536384/pokescans-old-official-4koma-book-quick
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Before player chooses the first partner Pokémon

"Heh, I don't need to be greedy like you. I'm mature! Go ahead and choose, <player>!"

11 year old with no parents trying to say he's mature.
sad, don't you think?
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>>59667621
maybe blue knows that if he complained about the unfairness of prof oak giving his grandson's neighbour a starter first before his actual grandson, he would've called blue "immature", so he just puts up a tough front and lets red choose first since it was inevitable, i wonder if blue would have been thankful if red told prof. oak to let blue choose a starter first?
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>>59667807
>i wonder if blue would have been thankful if red told prof. oak to let blue choose a starter first?

it's hard to tell. blue and the player aren't on the friendliest terms at the time, so if the player did manage to speak up and say let Blue pick first, Blue might think the player character also wanted to use the tactic of getting the pokemon that's super-effective to the rival's instead of thinking the player just wanted to stick up for him.

maybe when he's older he'll realise the player's true intentions at that time
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>>59667855
well, at least blue has the courage to stand up for himself in pokemon yellow, so that's good at least (even through i would've personally loved to have an eevee starter)
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if frlg.ips can be an entire alternative route romhack why can't we get a red x blue frlg romhack that allows me to set red and blue up earlier?
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From the Pokemon Zensho manga

>I had to give up on my journey

like that's not gonna build up some resentment AT ALL
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>>59668100
there's the rg project 2.0 romhack. i haven't played it myself but i've seen screenshots of it
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Leaf likes making flower crowns and sniffing pokemon and looking for flowers.

Blue likes traveling and going to night parties and eating food.

What are Red's hobbies outside of battling pokemon? Apart from fucking Blue
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>>59631554
>have cute female friend (Leaf)
>prefer to hang out with each other instead
>also Blue speaks for Red in Gen 7 which means he knows exactly what he's thinking, something you can only do if you spend years together
There's no straight explanation for these niggas
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"If you wanna know my origin story, I could probably sum it up in one word—Red!"
"I set off on my journey to complete my Pokédex at the same time as him. We've been rivals ever since!"
"What's your origin story like? Looking back on that can be important, you know."

>my origin story
>Red

was he even old enough to remember his parents or is that just too sad of an origin story to say to the player so he picks the next best thing?
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>>59663954
>>59667019
Red probably puts up with him being an ass because he's familiar with Blue having some issues,

>>59660693
maybe was clingy as a child to Red if he does what Professor Oak did to Agatha when Professor Oak was young and after his parents died

>acts like a ass towards Red when he thinks Professor Oak is giving him the attention

>>59633072
Misses Red while he's gone.
>>59635696
depressed or suicidal at one point

>>59642853
>>59642064
Once Red gets off the mountain, goes back to acting clingy towards Red, but like a ass to Leaf, possibly because he doesn't want Leaf taking Red's attention

>>59646648
combine the clinginess with Blue randomly wanting to break up sometimes because he still doesn't want to be overshadowed by Red

>insults Red when the player says No to Blue recognising you
because that's like the champion of Alola rejecting you, and Red is probably favoured back in Kanto. Then he remembers or Red reminds him that they actually have to introduce themselves to the new champion

>when you pick red, he acts a bit salty when Red gets attention as the champion over him, then tries to clean it up by saying you better show him an awesome battle

but Blue's issues come out much milder when Blue's older and more mature
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>>59669185
>Red
>I set off on my journey to complete my Pokédex at the same time as him
>Nothing about Leaf

Leaf: "We all grew up in Pallet Town, got our first Pokémon from Professor Oak, started our journeys together..."

bruh
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>>59668739
Sounds like very fulfilling hobbies, especially the second one. What more does he need?
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>>59671449
i remember coming across those comics on a hentai site!

though that one in partciular was completely SFW lol
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Do you think they drink alcohol
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>>59671755
I think Red drinks a bit

Blue says stuff like

"Night parties are fun! Wanna go to one? I could take you!"

"I once was invited to a boat party on the S.S. Anne back in Kanto."
"It was just as fancy as the parties we have here on Pasio!"
"I've got loads of stories to boast about!"

"If you want people to think you're strong, you gotta make it look effortless."
"Grown-ups don't rush into things. They act with class."
"Just watch me at a party, and you'll see!"

"The name's Blue. I can teach you a thing or two about proper party manners!"

So I think he also drinks a bit too
then Red gets him out before Blue gets completely wasted. I have little faith in him being as classy as he says he is.
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>>59671755
Red
>might drink less if he's the type of guy that prefers to remain in control of himself
>might drink more since he does extreme stuff like hide on a mountain for several years

Blue
>Might drink less because he's already famous as professor Oak's grandson and doesn't want to embarrass himself in the public eye or has been taught not to
>might drink more since he likes having fun at parties
>might drink more if he's still depressed or has issues underneath
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>>59670262
wasnt leaf added after that was written
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>>59672243
> Random conversation (Classic)

> "If you wanna know my origin story, I could probably sum it up in one word—Red!"

>Blue in his Classic clothes forms a sync pair with Aerodactyl, which is capable of Mega Evolving. This sync pair was first made available on September 18, 2021

>Leaf is a Pokémon Trainer in Pokémon Masters EX, based on the character of the same name in the core series. She forms a sync pair with Eevee. This sync pair was first made available on January 22, 2020.


the even funnier part is that Sygna Suit Leaf's sync move's mindscape shows Victory Road, so it's not like she started the journey with the boys then went away mid journey. She was there all the way until the end with them.
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how did blue not go mad when red became a hermit and lived on a mountain for a bit
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>>59672674
They stayed in touch via the PokeGear, if Red had any signal up there
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>>59672674
He might not be mad, but he doesn't exactly sound like he's doing well himself in HGSS.

Calling him

>Hello…Whatever… Don't worry about me. I'm doing peachy over here! If it's not Sunday night, then I'm not available. Call then or forget about it!"

He greets you with a depressed "Hello...whatever", then brings up worrying about him unprompted and tries to cover it up by saying he's doing peachy.

He's the leader of Viridian Gym but Daisy says
>"Hi! My kid brother is the Gym Leader in Viridian City. But he goes out of town so often, it causes problems for the trainers."

He's not giving out his number or socialising with others. His HGSS gym just has him, and his big sister has to give out his number. Also she implies he's lonely
>Give him a call when you feel like it. He can be overly confident, but he still needs company.

He does awkward calls to the player about Red once Daisy gives you his number

>"I'm Blue. Man, this guy called Red brought me down in a heartbeat. I haven't seen him in a long time...I wonder where he is and what he's up to… Come to think of it, you look a little bit like Red. Yeah, you do. Just...Just a little bit. Whatever..."


There's this sad line in Pokemon Masters
>>59635696
>There were lots of times when I felt so beat down, physically and mentally, that I didn't think I could keep going

And he's not even doing anything useful when he's away from the gym, he's just being sad on an island all by himself, talking about how everything can disappear in a second.

https://youtu.be/TFFWij9tZ9s?si=Ew4OMlgYK8itltjU&t=415
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>>59672760
There's also the changes in dialogue between the original and remake English translations. In GSC, he still hated Red.


>"Who are you? Well, it's plain to see that you're a trainer… My name's Blue. I was once the Champion, although it was for only a short time… That meddling Red did me in… Anyway, what do you want? You want to challenge me or something? …I hate to say it, but I'm not in the mood for a battle now. Take a good look around you… A volcano erupts, and just like that, a whole town disappears. We can go on winning and losing in Pokémon. But if nature so much as twitches, we can lose in a second. … That's the way it is… But, anyway, I'm still a trainer. If I see a strong opponent, it makes me want to battle. If you want to battle me, come to the Viridian Gym. I'll take you on then."

Then HGSS softened it to

" "Who are you? My name's Blue. I was once the Kanto Champion. Although it was short-lived thanks to Red… Anyway, take a good look around you…"
"A volcano erupts, and just like that, a whole town disappears. We can go on winning and losing in Pokémon, but if nature so much as twitches, we can be overwhelmed in a second… That's the way it is… But, anyway, I'm still a Trainer. If I see a strong opponent, it makes me want to battle.""

And added that phonecall where it implies he misses Red, and the photo-op where he's happy to hear Red got defeated which means Red is still out there even though Blue wonders where he is and what he's up to.

"You are quite something! You defeated Red!? That's great! Let's take a picture together!"

Yes: "All right!"

"Thanks for the nice picture!"

No: "Oh, well..."

Maybe hearing about what Red is up to from the Johto player prevented HGSS Blue from going nuts
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>>59672760
>>you look a little bit like Red. Yeah, you do
Blue x Gold intensifies
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>>59639608
Too much of a sissy bitch after losing so many times
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>>59672760
damn, so if red turned out to be dead and blue found out, blue wouldve killed himself?
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>>59672674
can I say that professor oak comes across a massive fucking dick about the whole Mt Silver thing?

Red's mother is worried about where Red is. He doesn't even call her.

"Hi! Red's been away for a long time. He hasn't called either, so I have no idea where he is or what he's been doing. They say that no word is proof that he's doing fine, but I do worry about him."

"I worry about Red getting hurt or sick, but he's a boy. I'm proud that he is doing what he wants to do."


Blue's on an island all alone and being a shitty gym leader that is barely in his gym because he's depressed and he doesn't know where Red is. Oak doesn't help Blue socialise, his big sister is the one giving out Blue's number.

>I haven't seen him in a long time...I wonder where he is and what he's up to…

Professor Oak says nothing about his grandson being the Viridian gym leader, even though he wants to give you a present after Blue's defeated.
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>>59673476

When exiting Viridian Gym after receiving the Earth Badge

"Hello, this is Professor Oak! Oh, you don't have to say anything! I know better than anyone else how hard you're working! I thought I should get you a present or something in appreciation... Well, I picked something up, but I completely forgot to give it to you! Ha ha ha! Oh, you don't have to wonder about it at all. I know it's something that will be very helpful to you. You should just come here and pick it up! I'll be waiting for you at my Laboratory in Pallet Town!"


Once you defeat Blue and get all the Kanto badges, Professor Oak gives you access to Mt Silver

After obtaining the Earth Badge

"Good to see you! This is what I've wanted to give to you!"
<Player receives HM08>
"That Hidden Machine contains the move Rock Climb! When you teach it to a Pokémon, you can go up rock walls that have steps carved in them.
Those Badges are...
Wow! You have not only become the Johto Champion, but you've collected all the Kanto Badges! Well done! Hmm... No wonder I sensed something in you when we met. Tell you what, <player>. I'll make arrangements so that you can go to Mt. Silver. Mt. Silver is a big mountain that is home to many wild Pokémon. It's too dangerous for your average Trainer, so it's off limits. But we can make an exception in your case, <player>. Go to the Pokémon League Reception Gate. You can reach Mt. Silver from there."


GEE PROFESSOR OAK, DON'T YOU HAVE A CHAMPION GRANDSON THAT MIGHT LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT THIS ROCK CLIMB HM AND MT SILVER THING? One strong enough against the wild pokemon of Mt Silver?

One that might at least want to talk to the fucking guards that saw Red enter the mountain?

Nah, just let him cry on Cinnabar island!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoWUkz-yVJM
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>>59673430
it's a possibility if blue feels he's responsible for red being miserable enough to kill himself

someone on a forum

https://namelessshipping.boards.net/thread/33/hgss-radio-dialogue-curiosity?page=1&scrollTo=182

pointed out the general public actually know Red's alive and out there somewhere, though they don't know where

>On the "that town these people" radio show in HGSS, there is a bit you can tune in on, where it goes:

"Announcing the top 3 in Pallet Town! Number three is... Ta-da! Red's House! Red is currently out on a journey and has been away from his house for a while, but his house is still our number three! I wonder where he's gone...
Moving on, number two is... Ta-da! Blue's House! The Trainer Blue has some real ability, and is said not to lose to Red, which is why he is in our number two position!
And the number one thing is... Ta-da! Professor Oak's Laboratory! Of course, if you're talking about Pallet Town, you can't leave out the premier Pokémon research facility, Professor Oak's Laboratory! It's only natural that this would be our number one!"
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i've heard some people say it's just fanart, but the pokemon masters official facebook posted this on their page, so they must approve!

(4chan doesn't allow facebook links, but you can search for it using the following info:

20 October 2020 ·
Hearts United on Pasio | Twinsies

After a year of accomplishments in Pokémon Masters, Trainers from all around Pasio have come together to celebrate. A group photo was taken to symbolize the unity and bonds on Pasio so that this year could be remembered for all the great things Pasio has brought—and for all the great things to come in the future
)
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>>59673481
to give him the benefit of doubt, the dialogue doesnt sound like prof. oak knew that red was on mt. silver? plus, the guards mightve been told by red to not say a peep about his location so that no one would interrumpt him (otherwise it wouldve been common knowledge that red was there) so oak might not have known
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>>59673749
Even if professor Oak doesn't know where Red is, that still means he hasn't bothered to tell Blue amount the whole Mount Silver thing as a place he can explore for himself or train at, otherwise Blue would have already found Red while exploring Mt Silver, instead of spending his time on Cinnabar Island wondering where the hell Red is.
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>>59673749
Whether Oak knows Red is there or not depends on whether he also made the arrangements for Red to go to Mt Silver too and allowed the guards to give him an exception, or whether Red managed to go in some other way

Because if he made the same arrangements for Red the way he did for the Johto Champion, but said fuck all about it to Blue, then he's definitely an asshole
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>>59673710
>trainers.jpg
If I was Leaf I'd just give it up, lmao.
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>>59673430
Or dated Gold. He seemed to like that Gold reminded him of his crush.
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>>59673710
They do look very gay here, lol. And Leaf is the third wheel as usual.

I also like Ethan being a chad bisexual. And whatever the fuck is going on with Barry and Dawn.
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>>59674405
>Be Red
>Spend years training alone on a mountain
>Get beaten by somebody stronger anyway
>Also Blue has their number and calls them
>And Blue wants to take a selfie with that person after they beat you

i'd be running down that mountain so fast. because if gold wanted to date blue first, i wouldn't wouldn't even be able to do anything about it because gold just beat my ass in a pokemon battle
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>>59674664
barry looks like he lost his balance mid photo and is falling into dawn

Kris is fourth wheeling too
Leaf and Kris should turn around and meet with each other.
They're also the two protagonists not in the GOTCHA official music video when the protagonists appear as silhouettes... https://youtu.be/BoZ0Zwab6Oc?t=45
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hosq1oqx8U

Professor Oak:
>YOUR VERY OWN LEGEND WILL CONTINUE TO UNFOLD RED!
>How are your pokemon doing, Leaf?
>Oh Blue, I have a request for you.

>>59652854
Leaf doesn't get to be legendary.
Blue has to do his grandpa's chores...


Oak to red: You've gotten stronger again!

Leaf: Are you okay professor?
Oak: Maybe I pushed too hard

Blue: Not bad gramps!
Oak: I can do even more!
>Doesn't compliment Blue back

bruh
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>>59674405
That seems like a recipe for disaster, dating someone because they remind you of your unavailable crush. Gold isn't the strong, silent type like Red, either, so I suspect he'd be very vocal if he suspected/knew Blue was only interested in him because of that. Of course, it could go the other way, too, if Blue was drawn to Gold not only for the qualities that attracted him to Red, but Gold's own qualities, too. Honestly I would not mind seeing this relationship dynamic explored in fanfics/fan art, but most people that ship Blue with a boy favor Red, and with Gold, it's Silver.
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>>59675021
it's only a crumb, but it seems Blue likes Ethan enough to ask him to train with him in preparation for smacking down Giovanni
(And Gold brings Silver along too)

https://youtu.be/WjHGcvODpYw?&t=407
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>>59675073
Professor Oak actually said something nice to Blue in that video.

Blue seems to like working with kids.

>>59636331
Red... i don't think he dislikes kids but they say he's more of a tough love person

Next time we see them in a mainline game, they might be even older. I wonder if one (or both, if it doesn't get censored) will have adopted a kid, or if Blue is happy enough just to teach kids as a gym leader, and Red is fine with just pokemon

The human records in Pokopia
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Human_Records
says Blue eventually takes his job as gym leader more seriously

"Gym Leader Spotlight: Blue!

Blue’s accomplishments are many, and you can’t even
begin to talk about the Viridian City Gym without
mentioning his name! This edition of Gym Leader
Monthly looks at how he managed to change a former
Team Rocket hideout into a wildly popular Gym.

Find out all you’ve ever wanted to know about
Kanto’s former Pokémon League Champion!
Who could he have possibly considered a rival?!"
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>>59631554
well without an official statement they aren't anything because they are not real
there are, of course, no official statements about these characters' sexualities
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>>59675337
but anon, this thread is about whether YOU think they are gay or not

what if they won't ever give an official statement because of gay censorship though?
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>>59675214
>Who could he have possibly considered a rival?!"

wouldn't that answer be really obvious since he got beat immediately? unless red and blue were married for so long that people started thinking that them also being rivals would be shocking
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>>59631554
Yeah every man can be gay with the right amount of alcohol or money
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>>59675021
The "looks like" thing only really makes sense if you go by the old sprites in the original games, because everything else between the official artwork and other material they don't even look remotely alike. I get more of a sense that Blue recognizes the strength in Gold and is attracted to it. [/spoiler]Also I like the idea of Silver being with Green/Leaf better while Gold, Red, and Blue are in a throuple[/spoiler]
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>>59675598
i guess the idea of them being rivals wouldnt come to mind for most NPCs considering how blue gave the fame checker to red as a "present", you'd think they're dating from the way they interact
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>>59676435
, from their POVs
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>>59675966
I've never cared all that much for Silver personally, so pairing up Gold with Red and Blue works for me.
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Adult Blue's eyes have changed.

It's like he's got permanent bedroom eyes now.

Who needs eyelid surgery when you've got Red's cock
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>>59668100
>>59668364
I'm playing Origin Heart Gold now, some Chinese translated to English romhack retelling the story of Gen 1 with multiple routes and I was kinda excited there was some romance options in it and I tried going the Red x Blue way but doesn't seem like it's possible unfortunately. Well, there was at least one scene where one of the characters says that Blue was worried when Red fainted and they paired a few times in some battles, but alas



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