Louisville editionPokémon Champions is a free to play online battle simulator available on Switch and mobile. It features ranked, casual and private battles for both singles and doubles, and will be used for VGC tournaments in 2026.>News- Juan Salerno [AR] has won the Recife Regional Championship - Louisville Regionals October 10th-11thLouisville Day 1 Stream: https://www.youtube.com/live/vFUa-42P3JU?is=MrIk_u0xCeDEqmm7>Resources and useful linksCommunity Tournaments usage data: https://pikalytics.com/Ladder usage data: https://pokechamdb.com/enDamage Calculatorhttps://nerd-of-now.github.io/NCP-VGC-Damage-Calculator/New Player Guide(NEW PEOPLE READ THIS):https://rentry.org/pcg-guide (now taking suggestions and feedback)Quick FAQ>Do I need my own Pokémon to play?No, the game features a recruitment system, but transferring from Home is recommended to save time and resources.>What makes the game so much more accessible than before?All aspects of a Pokémon are customizable with VP, a currency earned simply by playing the game. IVs are also removed.Ask in the thread if you want any specific Pokémon, and someone will respond.>Is there single player content?No.>Do I need a Nintendo Online subscription?No.>What's the starter pack?US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 Teammate Tickets (recruit Pokemon without using VP), 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music. Only available on Switch for now.>Is anything locked behind a paywall?So far everything gameplay relevant is also purchasable with VP. Only E-Floette require ZA transfer.Old >>59637366
>>59645805All the Salamences I play are bulky as shit. One lived ice beam from milotic, the other lived a dragon pulse from zomp comfortably. What the hell?
>>59645811Salamence adapted to taking hits and getting good damage across the board now. Some are even running modest with tons of bulk
>>59645811same thing that happened to charizard and froslass players shifting to bulk over speed/power
>>59645816Makes you wonder why they don't just start bulky.
>>59645811Literally the whole meta is just avoiding the mence matchup entirely, boys will adapt
So any interest on a draft league or people still burnt out?
>>59645811When the meta puts a target in your back, it’s better to go bulky
>>59645811a competitive boosted Milo or unboosted?
free mythicals
personally i think it's really awesome and fun that depending on its (completely unknowable beforehand) set, sneasler can hit 12/18 of the game's types for massive super effective damage, 13 if you count acrobatics
>stuck in UB2 in BSSFeels bad man...
there really needs to be a burn for special attack
>>59645895frostbite... we were so close...
>>59645895no there doesn't
>>59645814Mence tickles on its best days.
>>59645895lets start with sp atk version of intimidate
>>59645920nah we need less of that
>>59645920>>59645895Attack = easy to buff, easy to NerfSpA = more setup oriented, Ass Vest is a commitment
i made it to rank 2 but i'm afraid to lose a game and derank back to 3 before the season ends
>>59645927>>59645932nah we need more actually put a def, sp def and speed version of intimidate too
>>59645983speed intimidate would go crazy it would never be able to get completely out of control too since trick room counters it, kind of like how competitive/defiant turn intimidate from a strength into a weakness
>>59646005it would completely fuck any counter tech that isn't either a support mon or a balancemon like scarfers
>redirection would theoretically good into sneasler since it mostly uses single target attacks>except it has super effective coverage on every redirector in the game (claw on clefable, rock slide on volc/vivillion/scov/ariados, throat chop on sinis and indeedee, cc on maushold)xd
>>59646066perhaps running Clef next to a steel mon? CC redirects poorly and You protect against Dire, but that is still a read
>>59646066this is why you need >>59645823
What's the answer to the RaichuY/ChompZ team?Will it be found at Louisville?
>>59646100Bulky Salamence and good pivoting
Would you mega your Chomp in front of a Raichu? Would you ever think to not on the off chance it wants to Zap your Mega Chomp?
>>59646113i don't think mence is ever the answercan it even survive a draco?
>>59646119it's the strat actually, earth power as base chomp gets STABplus you're bulkier
>>59646100i open volc mence/bax if he kills the dragon volc just runs with the game
>>59646138it cant live draco but it lives d pulse, and mence teams have slyveon on them to pressure the zomp
>>59646100Yes. im bringing it to louisville.
>>59646167Be very vague about the team, but what megas did you settle on. Did you try that Kiran team?
>>59646172mence raichu (y)
golurk would be such a great ychu counter if he wasn't a shitmon that's barely viable as a mega (trick room only)
>>59646192golurk has great stats, like a similar stat spread to iron hands. its typing is dogshit though. if we ever get tera back for some reason, he will see some usage.
>>59646195Unless Chu gets surf it's immune to everything
>>59646195ghost/ground is pretty bad defensively but it's a very strong STAB combination offensivelythe biggest problem is mostly that its ability is kind of a nothing burger, unseen fist doesn't accomplish *that much* post-nerf and half of his good moves doesn't even activate it (eq, poltergeist, etc.) - you'd much rather have something that boosts powerhe's kind of like a less bulky ursaluna without guts
>>59646203So is bulletproof Kommo-O weirdly enough.
>>59646192Golurk also breaks Sneasler like a twig across it's knee.Shadow Punch really needs buffed to 70 BP rather than 60. It's enough to turn it into 75% to OHKO (without an item) on bulkier Basc sets.
I didn't play Sword Shield battle spot and know nothing about Gen 8 VGC. Which Pokémon actually preferred Gigantamax over just regular Dynamax?
>>59646218g max charizard was one of THE most broken pokemon of all time.
>>59645828itll give me a reason to open the game at least. havent had a reason to for a month now. i like the new megas but its just same old-same old every day
>>59646218most of them but particularly all of the ones that inflict DoTPikachuLapras
>>59646203It's weak to Grass Knot
>>59646210Chesnaught line also. Also like Kommo-o it resists Surf and Grass Knot as well.
>>59646233Okay well I guess I should reframe the question. Which ones don't prefer it?
>CinderaceOkay I guess
>>59646443the few times i've fought that thing it always surprises me with the amount of damage
the more i think about it the more i think choice scarf is actually pretty bad in this metatailwind everywhere, turn 0 unburden on the #2 used mon, and swift swim being relatively common mean scarf just doesn't cut it for anything weak to whatever is using those and once any of those go up you're stuck not even being the fastest thing on the field anymore at the cost of being choice locked
>>59646472I mean it's the battle pass freebie. I guess they aren't doing Megas anymore so they don't have to give free stones.
I'm looking through past VGC years. People complained about Dynamax in general but honestly legendary spam seems more gay to me. That applies to every generation. Forces of Nature of healthy meta, Urshifu, and box legendaries severely reducing team variety because why the fuck wouldn't you use the big monster with big stats. Every team being basically super Timmy 6 legendaries is disgusting. I get that they do these to shill the current gen legendaries and the DLC that conveniently lets you catch all the old ones but it's still gay. I would rather this game not devolve into that but it probably will.
>>59646100I built a Kommoo-Mega Gengar team that beats it quite reliably. Probably Rios himself and anyone practicing matchups would destroy me still and I can't really say my team's matchup is good or bad at a high level
who the hell is wearing emboar shirt and shorts
The lamest nigga you know will use the canari win emote
>>59646539i assume you also run rilla and incin so whats on the last 2 slots? the kommo-o gengar duo seems versatile
The coolest nigga you know will use the corbau win emote
>>59646559So I use incin and sinistcha because redirection is insanely good here, I tried a rilla variant but couldn't get it done. Lastly I got Steelix and ZardY. Please keep in mind that it's a team I crafted with my 50 box spaces and it has room for improvements, but Lix sometimes is the MVP. I use it for Wide Guard and to kill fairies but it's definitely the one i pick the least. Zard is there for weather matchups and gholdengo, and in general when Perish isn't an option. Almost got to MB1 with it then I tried rilla mode and got into a 4 in a row loss streak and I was done for the season
Post your end of season rank
>>59646557I’m using it as soon as I unlock it lol
>>596466651890 but I was ~1930 before a massive hax tilt
>>59646262gmax arch and corvi are straight downgrades
>>596466651807 scrub after trying something different in the last second
>>59646665Better than I expected given at one point I fell down to low 1200s
>>59646665Steelix is still underrated
>>596466651691I stopped playing the moment I got to MB.
>>59645805this team came in first for this seasonhttps://x.com/namak_po/status/2107714023198486919?s=20
>>59646885fish hate
>>59646885basc is picking up in usage again, and i dont like it. that fucker was the real problem of MA and MB.
>>59646925it didnt make cut in baltimore. im suprised to see it pick up once more with rilla and gambit on every team
>>59646524fuck Unshifufuck Miraidonfuck Zacian (gen 8)fuck Tornadusfuck Calyrex S (Ice is a menace but he has to live with the Ice/Psychic typing as a trick roomer, there's depth there)
>>59646723what's the strat?
>>59646524enjoy it while it lasts. heatran coming back next regulation implies the genies, urshifu etc will also come back as well. worlds will probably be single restricted + mega which will be interesting
>>59646943could be a floette situation where it's just the one to sell you ZA
mirror coat vanilluxe can be a pretty funny tech
>>59646936They build bulky now to survive sucker and glide
>>59646941No cheese stratsits just steelix balance with an optional tr mode steelix doesnt get ohko'd by anything except very powerful special single target moves so you have decent matchups into many teams
>Last time it was legal was in SwSdFerrottorn will be the last one to drop in
M-D has two routes it can go>heatran and tatsugiri are the only megas>we get several of the new megas + unrestricted legendsWhich do you prefer?
>>59647033Move set? >Heavy Slam>High Horsepower>Body Press>Wide Guard>ProtectHard to choose one to take out. Considering trying a Sneasler Coaching strat
>>59647039We need more ground types and the best ground types are all sub-legendaries. Garchomp is basically the only decent ground type and that's fucked up.Give us Landorus, give us TingLu.If they do that, then we can have Heatran.
>>59647056oh yeah, Ursaluna too, both of them.
>>59647056Eats your earth like a boss
>>59647067The only way I would have believed Heatran getting Earth Eater would be if Golisopod got Water Bubble, it's probably gonna be Flash Fire or something>>59647056Ursaluna would honestly be kino for this meta. I could actually see it as a pair with M-Golisopod for TR teams
bulky ape is really fun
>>59647079To bad teras gone and we can’t run mausape anymore
>>59647081Fuck Tera. Enabled so much bullshit to get by.
>>59647081>>59647091We know tera is coming to the game based on the first trailer, just a matter of when. It's gonna be fine for open teamsheet, but current closed Bo1 ladder on champions will be fucking hell. Singles will feel borderline unplayable.
>>59647091It just changes how you need to approach the gameplan, work to get your opponent to burn tera early while you save yours for the endgame.>>59647098Singles is garbage on its best day.
>>59647106I wonder if they're gonna disable megas when tera comes, or you have to choose whether you go in with tera or mega (or let you use both in a battle even)
it feels legitimately impossible to cover for meta threats without using the same 10 mons. Like ZardY + Sneasler invalidates 99% of the roster and forces you to run either chomp or mence unless you want to instalose
>>59647111I want both useable in a single battle.It will make tera slightly less unpredictable due to 1 of 4 mons brought to a battle won't be able to use it.
>>59647135Yeah I'd agree, especially if Z-Moves were added too>mega, z-move, tera user all in one battle but can't combine mechanics>becomes a 50/50 guessing game if its not apparently obvious which is the tera user based on the meta>slightly harder if they choose not to bring a z-move or mega user, but more likely they will than not as it'd be a major disadvantage in exchange for a surprise tera
>>59647187They could also just fix this with an OTS ladder.Make it Bo1 if they feel Bo3 would take too long.
Tera is pretty easy to predict 90+% of the time desu. The only set that even semi consistently got me was tera ground CSR.
i'll take extreme speed dragonites and ghost archs over zardy any day to be quite honest
>>59647259rent free
>>59647056The Ruinous quartet are a mistake in general. I'd love to see singles of group legends get added because Ting Lu? Maybe, but Wo Chien alone feels not strong enough to be better for the balance. Perhaps Ting Lu without Ass Vest is more palatable.
>>59647195I never accepted the premise of "we need open teamsheets for tera variance". I think if it weren't for social cliques spoiling sets closed team sheets are king. Hence a big reason I prefer online competitions
>>59647275i would like wo chien to manage all the fucking sliding rocks
>>59647053You can drop body pressEverything you hit with fighting is already weak to ground or steel, and everything he already struggles to hit like pelipper laugh at body press.I'm max/max hp and attackI recommend a rock move if you want more coverage, but i use hh,heavy slam,protrct,wide guard
>>59647259sir you are a fucking retard
What is the stat spread for a Bulky Salamence to live Dragon Pulses from Zomp?
>>59647259idiot
>>596474521HP 32SpDef will live a +32 Dragon Pulse from ChompZ
>>59645811one just lived my max sptak garde hyper voice and it insta lost me the game. they should not be allowd to do this bullshit
I just got two shinies... wtf...
almost tried to make a golurk team before I remembered incin rilla and respecteri hate these dudes so much
>>59647342Thanks. I can picture Wide Guard is great to try and stop Rock Slide flinching from fucking you up. Spitballed this idea for a TR team but I'm not sure if I'd put a mega on Mence for a side strat or something else. Also considered swapping Sinestcha and Indeedee for Farig/Rillaboom but the rest didn't seem to come together without a 2and TR setter. Ghost would fit well on that teambuild. I have a fondness for Cofagrigus but idk if he'd do enough.
Anyone got a spare milotic?
>>59646885Yea honestly the more i play the more i go back to Zardy for example. It was the only way i could get back to MB4 at the last minute
>>59647739enjoy
Who's getting moves taken away from them next?
>>59647745Thanks anon
>>59647726What's this website?
What are some cool rain team ideas/mons/moves? I want to keep arch, pelliper, and pod. I don't really care beyond that.I'm currently running pod, swampert, pelliper, ddf, incin (never use) arch
>>59647854basc f is novel
>winning position>get critted>now unwinnable>zard gets ancient power boostyeah whatever game
>>59647511Thank you bro
>>59647709Only Rillaboom is a problem. Headlong rush gapes Incineroar and if you aren't confident in it helping hand.
>>59647914you'll never hit incin before 2 debuffs unless you're already winning under TR
>>59647917If your team hard dies to intimidate, you just run milotic/bisharp and reverse sweep.
>>59647945I think golurk/milo would get raped by rilla so has to be kingmanyou know what fuck it im rolling a golurk
>>59647968There's also Annihilape or meowstic.Didn't meowstic get a top recently?
>>59647979yeah but adding meowstic would make the incin problem worse
>>59647914Golurk is a theory trap mon. In theory he should beat a lot of things. In reality he's going to get his ass kicked
The virgin sylveon>gay>boring monotype>has a mid 110 special attack>represents trannies>too weak to use non stab moves effectively>gets wide guarded once and fails to ohko araquanid with hyper beam giving the araquanid player a free turn Vs the chadderene>based>dual typed>annoying af cry>a gigantic 136 special attack and you put a life orb on top of it, it becomes a psyspam goddess>can annihate anything not dark or steel with expanding force>mystical fire ohko's mega golisopod outside rain>can set up trick room and troll charizards next to mega golisopod with magic powder>represents autistic people who hate loud noises and trannies
>>59647995Annoying af cry was meant for sylveon obv
>>59647726I feel like wide guard is pretty necessary, its nice to avoid getting your slow guys flinched down like you said>I'm not sure if I'd put a mega on Mence for a side strat or something elsehonestly dragon/flying is really good for the team since it resists everything steelix is weak to and vis-versa. a previous version of my team had salamence but i would end up going mega steelix for a majority of games so i cut him. >Also considered swapping Sinestcha and Indeedee for Farig/Rillaboom but the rest didn't seem to come together without a 2and TR setter.i'd avoid building steelix hard TR desu. Most games I don't even bring TR because of indeedee and the fact that dedicated TR teams will have guys slower than steelix. However, putting farig on the top of the team makes people bring things like gambit which steelix eats for lunch. >I have a fondness for Cofagrigusi also ran cofag instead of farig for a while, and while he's a good TR setter, he doesn't put enough pressure on guys that threaten the team like farig's psychic and tbolt does. and i dont like relying on ally switch or doing iron def strats. i like rillaboom because he answers water mons that the team hates way better than sini
>>59647854Muddy water modest life orb inteleon I suppose, closest thing we have to a non mega swift swim abuser
>>59648014Support tailwind + helping hand pelipper as a partner, sableye with gravity, helping hand and rain dance is also an option if you hate MW missing
>>59647854sash torrent greninja for the epic water shurikens
>>59648014There's overqwil and qwilfish I guess, there may be a reason why no one uses them on rain after 6 or so seasons probably however
>>59648026from experience the reason is that base chomp rapes it and it can't really do anything to gambit and sneas otherwise it's pretty good into everything else
>>59646665I dipped to early 1300s where I was playing sleept af, climbed back to 1700, then had a spell where I tried to make octolock + malamar work that tanked me from 1700 to 1530 cause that ish is so weak to fairies, my comfort team gave me late push to almost mb2, in UB now after a 6 win streak
god i hate how much role compression pelipper offers over politoed because goddamn is it ugly as sinhurricane (sneasler check), tailwind, and wide guard in one package makes it so much harder to teambuild rain without it
>>59646885Kino team but>male Delphox
>>59648056my nigga gandalf
>>59648037what the fuck does gourgiest even do
>>59648056most vgc players use male delphox cause they dont really care about that shit. but when i see a female delphox/sylv/garde, i know what the fuck you are (especially if they are shiny)
>>59648071gooner balance guy had female lopunny and female garde btw. its pokemon fans after all
>>59648067i would bet on it being for giving kingambit ghost typehe's probably soak araquanid too
>>59648067Ally switch shenanigans, bulky trick room setter, makes Kingambit live up to its name as a blessed gambit that is immune to fighting moves, can pack a bit of a punch when needed with Poltergeist, can make gambit into a mon that has no resists by spreading ghost type to opps, sometimes gets to set trick room twice if you can get it in healthy on a fairly non threatening duo to it like rillaboom and ychu>>59648085Correct, why tf would anyone else use mega ampharos except for aura farming
garchomp+sneasler+sylveon core is so hard to work around
>>59647827https://marriland.com/tools/team-builder/>>59648009Appreciate it. While Rilla will let me enemies heal their chip damage it will be good to help me heal too. Makes me a little Uturn weak but hopefully positioning can help me there. I'll give of a shot!
>>59648071>but when i see a female delphox/sylv/garde, i know what the fuck you areMerely using the Delphox from the SV Raid or the Fennekin from Z-A
>>59647912I'm not saying you should use that exact spread, but it is a decent allocation of stats since the boosting nature is best used for highest base stat while the EVs are best spent on its weakest attributes and whatever it needs to outspeed.Then you start to moderate your desires from there because you often can't have your cake and eat it too.
that joe sand is a fucking pain if you don't have your own corvi bweeeeeh
band sand?
Today I got my fifth shiny: Medicham (female)Too bad it sucks
>>59648183*presses electro shot*
>>59648014>>59648024these are cool ideas but im not really sure i need specifically water in a rain team, stuff like pod/arch in rain is most fun
i've been sitting here for an hour trying to think of a solution to ychu/zomp and i just can't basically the only thing that works for both is scarf regular chomp
Need a Nslurpuff please, Unburden After You sounds too fun
>>59648255Hard Trick Room is always the answer to metaslop, only have trouble with that team when I play like a retard
FUCK OFF I WAS 2 TURNS FROM WINNING
>>59648255screens + setup are pretty big value vs them
>>59648272screens setup feels like the most broken thing in the game because there's no real counterplay to it, just blitzing 1 mon and hoping for the best
>>59648269I've only had draws during my toxapex phase (deserved honestly), how'd it happen here? Too much bulk and a boosted volc tanking anything arch threw at it?
>>59648278the downside is that the screener is kind of a brick after it's done
>>59648280constant switching for weather control, I had roar swamp + vanilluxe and he had zard-toed, we both had screensx2 boosted volc with lefties spamming struggabug to stay alive, arch never got enough boosts and volc can't quite KO in rain+screen pic rel is the turn where I finally kill arch with bax but the whole turn took up the minute
>>59648284oh and grimm kept parting shotting volc so I couldn't dancedance to a win
>>59648278>>59648281the other downside at least for the archaludon team is that it's slow as hellgrimm setting both screens and parting shotting into the rain setter takes 3 whole turns, which is an eternity by vgc standards
>>59648281it really depends on what you have, like if it's sableye you can still pull some bullshit especially since you're (usually) immune to fake out bullshit, plus looming with encore to punish most protect spammers trying to stall it outthough i will admit that it all strongly depends on if you call the right startup matchup
That Zard/metagross team was all over champion tier in season 6.What the fuck happened? Metagross was nowhere for all of MB, what is popular now that it's good into?
>>59648317psychic terrain makes metagross a lot stronger and protects it from le sucker punch mansneasler usage also went up like crazy and meta is strong into it
>>59648332oh and fewer charizards helps it too of course
Is there a valid reason to run aura sphere over flash cannon on arch? Who is it trying to check?
>>59648365gambit
>>59648365gambit, arc mirror.
>>59648334There was a lot of Zard in Champion tier for the season looking at those who released their teams. Paul Chua was 2nd place with the ZardPex team while a jap was 4th with a Big 6 team, but with Metagross instead of Floette.
Freshly gts sniped using a wondertrade mon. How do i use xer?
>>59648334>fewer zardsHow do we tell him
>>59648443i mean there are still a lot but i don't think it's possible for there to be as many as there were in M-B
Thanks to that guy i lost to in pokeball tier singles this early, i now found the right Garchomp that i enjoy playing with, and with a maledee as a potential lead in certain matchups for priority protection. And being swept by a serperior last season also inspired me to run my own.Cinderace has been a real disappointment though. Can i make use of him in dubs?
>>59648269What else did he run? You should have killed that grimmsnarl early
>>59648441heal pulse and ally switch support used it a bit for a fissure snorlax team
>opponent wins by my golisopod hitting itself THREE times with confusion, followed by my politoed hitting itself and costing a turn>lost to a literal 3.7% chanceThe game literally said "you're not winning this one"
>>59648520simply outskilled desu
>>59648529
>>59648520what does your team run to get rid of pesky flamethrower zarchomps?arch can't stay in on the earth powers/dracos and they constantly lead with rillaboom so politoed ice beam is also not really reliable either
>>59648634Usually Gambit Scarf Raptor and Farig. Rillaboom gets cucked by Armor Tail, Final Gambit lets me get a free swap - Chomp is usually dead from this, but worst case scenario if I swapped in Politoed too:>32 SpA Garchomp-Mega-Z Flamethrower vs. 32 HP / 2 SpD Golisopod-Mega in Rain: 88-108 (48.3 - 59.3%) -- 97.3% chance to 2HKOZ-Chomps are kind of nothingburgers desu.
>>59645805>LouisvilleWatch out for zombies!
>>59648684oh wow i didn't realize it does so little damage even with 140 spatkyou can literally just duel him blow for blow with leech life healing (as long as rain stays up)
I saw someone trading a strange ball (go safari ball) Gardevoir and I kind of regret not going for it. I haven't seen a single go safari ball transfer since. It's cool that it shows up as strange ball by default in Home.
My team has an auto loss into hard trick room, it’s fine in bo3/ IRL where people don’t play htr because it’s a dogshit archetype for smoothbrains but on cart ladder, I keep at least one imprison mon because I won’t lose to someone with negative Iq. I also always use incin in cart ladder to help with that.
Anyone else here wait before laddering? I don’t want to face someone in champion tier in great ball
>>59648828week 2-3 of the month is optimalweek 1 is full of people climbing as you described, but then it gets hard again at the end when everyone is tryharding
>>59648828I play more when it's the new week with new weekly missions
TIL knock off is called "sabotage" in frenchless literal but sounds way cooler
zard getting the respect it deserves again, love to see it
imagine being so much of a coward that you hop on causal ladder with a tryhard team lmao. hope on ranked with the rest of us and stop farming timmy whos using mega pidgeot
the volcarona honeymoon is gonna end soon with zard coming backevery zomp is running power gem and sneaslers are all running rock slide for it now
>>59648912>1+ SpA Charizard-Mega-Y Ancient Power vs. 32 HP / 0 SpD Volcarona: 144-172 (75 - 89.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO>32 SpA Charizard-Mega-Y Ancient Power vs. 32 HP / 0 SpD Volcarona: 156-184 (81.2 - 95.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO>32+ Atk Sneasler Rock Slide vs. 32 HP / 29 Def Volcarona: 148-176 (77 - 91.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>>59648914okay so just sneeze on it with literally any other attack after the rocks and it dies
Which shiny pokemon actually look good?Which viable pokemon have aesthetically appealing shiny variations?
>>59648926politoed has a great shiny
>>59648908well when he loses he should definitely just set the controller down for 3 minutes, that will show them
>>59648912Mixed Mence usage is also creeping back
Why do Asians and Euros live Floette Balance, but NA refuses to run it?
>>59648975Floette is even more exploitable and hard to run then Phox because if it’s speed tier, and need to set up unless your helping hand support.
>>59646443He's for the BSS players aka the Japanese players, they're happy about it
I just want more music. I will pay for it as well. TPC blowing away free money, not that they need it anyways
>>59648988Sun and Moon is my favorite game. lusamine theme is my favorite track of all time
>suddenly abzol teamsAARON
>>59648995What’s absols niche? I see it a lot on psyspam
>>59648997basically just kill fast and snowball, they run support moves like icy wind and wow as a third move to flip the game fast if they can't kill
I played this game long enough that I'm sick of these monthly challenge series. I know it's my fault for forcing myself to play all 45 matches even though I end up losing 2/5 of them all the time. When I can just do the 3 minimum and collect the prize. I think what bothers me is unlike just the normal ladder you're forced to play by the tournament's time which is not a lot of time. 15 matches is a long time easily over an hour you have to dedicate each day or 4 to 5 hours if all on the last day. Doesn't help that I'm sick of BSS. There are so many shit eating weaselly tactics you don't get in doubles. And I can't build a proper team there for the life of me.
>>59648998>most of left is also rightthe illusion of free choice
>hit 7 game win streak before Master Ball >1655I was dropped in 1700ish last season, what happened?
>>59649021Less players maybe
did the gardes stop running trick room can i just kill the deedee most of the time
>>59649035Speed seems to be all over the place. While trying out Gardevoir I outsped a Charizard and was slower than a Gyarados.
the return of zard has the unfortunate side effect of making volc almost unplayable now everyone has rocks
>>59649297People never really stopped running rocks in some capacity. Zard's comeback is just the recovery from the overreaction of everyone dropping it to experiment in MC. Despite being around just 13% usage at every regional, it has made top 8 or won every time. I think Raichu Y is the king currently though.
>>59649303well it also brought back swamp and basc so yeah
How constructive is Soundproof this format? I see a fair amount of Hyper Voice going around
Gamefreak, what the fuck is this?
>>59649405pretty cool vs perish and parting shotters but kinda mid on anything else mostly an anti mence techkommo-o with speed control kinda corners mence but it would still need a double up, mr. mime is immune to mence I guess but pretty whatever vs everything else
fucking shit I need box slots give mobile the fucking started pack
Why aren't people using IndeedeeF/MDelphox for Psyspam?
>>59649498https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Levitate_(Ability)
>>59649498Game freak did something right for once and made sure delphox cannot make use of psychic terrian
mega altaria might be pretty decent right nowmaybe paired with psyspam and gambit
>>59649569what's your excadrill + ttar solution?
>>59649576stay as base altaria and uhhhh goliso or raptor+ 1 more
>>59649523>>59649504The world is saved from my retardation, thanks and oops
Can anyone give me some feedback/recommendations for this team? Not new to competitive, but first time in over a decade that I'm playing. I'm considering replacing Stomping Tantrum on Grapploct with Payback, but I'm imagining that Storm Throw is almost always gonna do more than Payback against Indeedee or Farigiraf. Open to full on replacements for some mons. I like Kangaskhan more than I thought I would, but my biggest issue is physical normal stab kinda sucks (forced to use Double Edge)I got to Ultra Ball after about 5 hours of play, not that it matters with how ranking up works and since most people say Masterball 3 is where games really get hard.
>>59649569what's your build for Mega Altaria?
>>59649617>hard tri advise you to get raped
I don't know why this one faggot complains about trick room all the time. Over half the roster would be completely unviable without it. Just look at what doesn't get use in BSS.
>>59649617Feint maybe since you don't run psychic terrain yourself
>>59649643mence set with perish
>>59649617If you're running mega kanga you're probably just better off having protect over hammer arm. The fighting coverage isn't going to make or break most of the time since the most important steel type to hit is immune to it and weak to crunch
>>59649766Eat shit, there's so much you can do to deal with TR at this point>>59649802Over stomping tantrum or over Mach Punch? I imagine now that I'm in Ultra, I'll see people start to stall out TR with protect more>>59649840Can u explain more? Mence over Kanga and Politoed over Pelipper?>>59649843Should I drop Kanga for something else? Doing you think its worth adding a Fire type potentially swapping out potentially Pelipper/Arch or those two and Kanga, maybe even just swapping out Pelipper and leaving Rain Dance on farigiraf for Arch/weather control? I think I've done pretty well so far, most of my losses have been from dumb mistakes when I was tired like leading Farigiraf and Mawile, protecting Mawile when people will 9/10 times double attack farigiraf. Biggest concern right now is I don't know how this team will do vs Golisopod and if I should consider rock slide over Iron Head for Mawile
podgods
>>59649843>Kingambit>immune to fighting
**FAGGOT**
>overqwiler>click perish a few turns into his setup>forfeit>coaching corvi>click perish>forfeitman let me test my team fuck you
>>59649498Haydunn had a feature where he would entrainment plus onto mega delphox with dedenne in psyterrain which was cool, you could have indeedee use follow me when dedenne goes down to sneak in a nasty plot for overkill
Trick Room is cope
>that one game away from master ball feel
>>59649902>>Kingambit>>immune to fightingShe doesn't know
Does this kind of set still work for Milo? Or should I want to go Ice Beam for damage? Wish we had Adrenaline Orb, one of the few amazing use cases for it (same with Farigaraf and Throat Spray)I saw a specific spread as the most popular among the diverse spreads Milo are known for on the database having it run 14Spd bringing it to 115, what is it trying to outspeed there?
>>59648998I'm usually a single target guy with maybe 1-3 spread moves on my teams, I like when my opponent has barely any spread users cause I'm an indeedee-fag
>>59649934I am PISSED they added Toxtricity but didn't add Throat Spray at the same time
>>59649952They're too worried about buffing the Farig.
>>59649934or maybe it's made to defend against something (physical by the looks of it) and dumping speed was the last priority
if magnezone comes back give it electro shot for the lulzless bulky archaludon but with a tactical nuke
>>59649932What does GG do that Sinestcha doesn't? Ally Switch CAN be multi purposed but I need specific instances where it protects the user who consumes a turn using it as so important instead of directly tanking the hit
>>59649975trick-or-treat adds the ghost typing to gambit
>>59649952That's lame. But I'm still seething they introduced Gliscor way back when and STILL haven't implemented Toxic Orb. This is on top of nerfing it by removing moves like Taunt.
>>59649975Lately been considering replacing Ally Switch with will o wisp which sinistch la doesn't get, follow me is much better than rage powder in this meta with rillaboom everywhere
first game in poke ball tier and it's that faggot ychu starraptor gholdengo arcanine team
>>59649997can argue with reliability, even Macha Gacha's burn rate is stupid good
>>59650005It really depends on the team you use, sinistcha doesn't fit on mine cause it's less bulky and can't support gambit by flipping the script on sneasler and making its kowtows either neutral or suppereffective against just about everything but lucario, I would advise using sinistcha on literally every team but a change type theme team
>>59650022Derp, steel ain't resisted by dark no more, so that pretty much makes grimmsnarl the only mon who resists kowtow when trick or treated
I'm doing, I'm using the bridge
>>59648365I must be a super casual, cause I always do double stab on dual types
>>59650022>>59650005I meant can't, I won't argue consistency, and even tho WoW has 85 acc it's still more reliable
I tried Grassy Seed Acrobatics Rillaboom last season with mixed results, this might be the time to whip it out again just for the mirrors, but I would need something to give it a little extra oomph for this to work
>>59650052*last gamenot season
Mega Altaria is fucking fun and actually works, I managed to fit it into a build
>>59649898you are a low iq robot matchup fishing, hope they mentally rape you on the ladder
I remember an Android APK for a Pokemon Shwodown client app, didn't work any different than the website but would DC way less often when I tabbed out on mobile browser. Anyone know where I can get it? Seems Play and Fdroid don't have it.
I will never look down on people stuck in UB again, shit goes from 1 game away to 5 games away real quick, fuck that random invisible focus sash on hisui decidueye surviving life orb dazzling gleam
>>59650139you are a whiny bitch. It's not even hard TR, it has tailwind on Pelipper and farigiraf is the only thing running -speed nature. People that ree about trick room in 2026 are babies.
>>59650165My dumbass forgot H-Deci gets Scrappy and thought my ghost was safe and sound, he got my ass good.
Won the Rock Slide flinched 8 times in 1 game award
>sunny day jolteon with flamethrower zoroark disguised as an araquanidi think we've reached peak anti-golisopod schizo team
>>59650115What's your build and team for Mega Altaria?>>59650182I hate base form Decidueye, find it to be the most boring of the Alolan starters. Hisuian form is cool af, but they still fucked up his stats. 95 special attack for what??
are people sleeping on Aegislash?
>>59650299ZA killed all the aura Aegislash had
>>59650299unfortunately gholdengo just does what it does but better in basically every way (doesn't care about intimidate spam, can't be statused, has spread move, doesn't have to stance dance)
nice try bridgefag. baracat cat is unstoppable. 6 win streak my beloved.
ttar is such a meme of a mega slot, i don't think i've ever lost to sand
the treasures would fix this format
>>59650455charizard sun-boosted chi-yu fins typed this post
>>59650455ew
>>59650455We need Choice Specs too
>>59650501a lot of things would feel a little less insurmountable if we got specs and band
who in their right mind thinks the current meta is too defensive and needs more power the only actually meta things that might be true of are like, milotic and archaludon
>>59650523it's not that retard it's not like zard can hold specs it'd just make all the 50/50s a little less painful
>>59650529I just had someone lead Indeedee Gyrados, shortly after I deal with the gyrados they bring in gambit, and proceed to click sucker punch 3 times while their own psychic terrain is up.I genuinely don't know what people are thinking. Maybe they thought I would swap back in the rillaboom I had at the start? But why would I? I was easily just farming the team with no real threats from them.I just don't know how people do this, I'm fucking retarded at this game and even I know not to do that.
making a golurk team and realizing it's just a shitty version of ursaluna-koraidon-lunala
after mathing it a bit, i have determined that the absolute worst speed tier possible is base 62it's just barely slow enough that it's physically impossible to ever outspeed jolly unburden sneasler with choice scarf and tailwind, but fast enough that you at best speed tie torkoal with iron ball and are faster than the vast majority of hard TR mons without it
Can anyone help me evolve this shiny Lairon into Aggron later? I got him from Home and no one wants him but i dont have a switch anymore
>>59650222Alolan Decidueye was created to be the flop starter of Alola, since regional forms don’t always radically change stats Hisuain form inherited its humiliation ritual Hoeen special stat spread
>>59650616yeah but the only 60s tier mon you'll ever use in TR is oranguru anyway, real suffering starts at 58 slow nature Rampardos speed ties neutral Kingambit
>>59650647oranguru and farig*
>>59650588Well what are you running?
has anyone smashed their devices while playing this game yet? i wanna laugh.
>>59650616Primarina makes it work. If you think of base 100 as the target, it out slows it in trick room and out speeds it in tailwind. It naturally outspeeds trick room Pokémon without trick room up so you can out maneuver hard trick room if you can prevent it from being set up. Of course you're never going to out speed the edge cases. That's what trick room is for. Who runs the extremes of fastest and slowest out on the field at the same time?
>>59650673evs and sinistcha replacement pending
>>59650731i've heard some people have started running phantom force on golurk to punish protects on the last turn of trick room and avoid misses/fail because of lost items, maybe worth checking out
>>59650737kind of a pain to use with normals and incin everywhere, and I think not too much of an issue if golurk is sitting next to a redirector or blaziken
>>59650455What about this format needs fixing? This has been a fun format without restricted legends or Ursihfu coming in to shit everything up. Psyspam is annoying tbf and Raichu Y, but all we need is Alolan Marowak. Mega Heatran comes in a month or so though and apparently some mythicals like Magearnea.
>>59650731How has this worked for you? I'm trying to understand what the Blaziken is for. I used Golurk with that weird Vanilluxe team a while back. I recently converted it to a Camerupt team. Still using Vanilluxe.
>>59650764blaziken is there to kick gambit ghold arch and rilla out of TR, and getting the jump on the crazier speed tiersdoing ok with it so far though I think it needs a milotic check
>>59650766In general it does seem water weak. When I used Golurk Kingambit was no problem. Most were chople berry and Golurk out slows so headlong rush clears it out. Same with Gholdengo. Archaludon usually needed helping hand. Though now I'm using Camerupt which clears all of them without the drawbacks.I keep bringing Vanilluxe up but it actually fills the role your Drampa does almost exactly. It's sashed, it clears weather with snow, blizzard for surprisingly good spread move damage, freeze dry to nuke rain staples, aurora veil for support. Bonus it scares Salamence and Garchomp away from most matches and comes with rage powder if they do have them in the back. It's okay at handling Milotic.Does your team have trouble getting trick room up?
>>59650792Getting TR up is no problem just that golurk gets completely raped by the meta mons even under TR so it's hard to get going anyway. currently looking for the 6th mon who can patch up some holes.seeing everyone explode from headlong is funny tho
golisopod's biggest weakness is unironically closed team sheetsso much random shit can and will have flamethrower/fire punch that would never run it in a real tournament
>>59650836double edged sword OTS exposes what flavor of 4mss goliso is carrying
>>59650825Golurk actually took care of a lot of M-B threats. It eats Raichu for breakfast even outside of trick room. A helping hand boosted headlong removed Floette. Poltergeist took care of Delphox and Froslass and surprisingly Sylveon. I had Vanilluxe and Primarina for Staraptor. Out of all M-C inclusions I think it struggles most with Rillaboom.
>>59650847pod 4mss isn't that bad if you build around it wellif you need more than STABs, 1 coverage/priority, and protect or swords dance then there's probably a weakness somewhere else on the team you're relying too much on pod to patch up
Anybody going to Louisville tomorrow? I wish I could
>>59651029Already here.
>>59650860Larping as Ursaluna lol
>>59649035I try not to lead Garde and instead lead Armarouge or SNEEDler with Indeedee-F. Armarouge can usually, safely, Trick Room, and SNEEDler can one shot most non-sashed leads.
holy shit psychic seed light screen indeedee is just completely unkillable with any special movesfucking invincible support bot
>>59651147Eh, Reflect is better since she sucks at soaking hits.
lost to some genius retard staying in with charizard against tailwinded glimmora
>>59651181it's so dangerous to try and get cute with predictions anywhere below master ballyou think you're gaining momentum by predicting the most obvious forced response ever and then they just don't do it anyway
Steel Roller needs an increase in base power.I've been using in as tech on M-Steelix. It puts terrain users on the back foot for sure, but as a move that you can only reasonably expect to click on once, 130 bp is underwhelming. Especially once you run calcs against common setters. Max attack Steelix under sand misses out on OHKO against both max physical bulk Indeedee-F as well as bulky Rillaboom variants. Grassy Seed Rilla survives even a Helping Hand boost.
Can somebody please trade me a Poltchageist or a Sinistcha? I want to try practicing a few more things before the main event tomorrow
>>59651252Yeah man for sure
>>59651218I can only make reads off obvious flowcharts or responses anyone would do (like Charizard in front of Glimmora), I can never seem to outplay a master. Is there a mindset to better play the prediction game or is this 100% game sense and practice that builds intuition? What I do know is reading by its nature is a gamble, it's a trickstab you do not want to rely on lest the enemy sees it coming or recognizes your own striking patterns.
>>59651243How about it's only half power with no terrain? Like a Knock Off
>>59651272Yeah, making it more reliable would be a fitting alternative. I'd accept that. I'm running two Steel moves just so I have something I can click after terrain is gone.
>>59651270if you want to make a read do it with the other mon with a non obvious option to cover your bases
>>59651270The time to make hard reads is when things are going poorly. Play normally if you're winning, because every hard read is a massive risk that you need to weigh against the reward.If you're in a bad position and you can see far enough ahead, then it may be worth making that play.
>>59651270consider all of the options available on any given turn and pick the response that has the least bad outcome if you're wrong rather than the one with the best outcome if you're right e.g. glimmora has tailwind in front of a charizard that just protectedit's very likely that charizard will switch out, you get some chip damage on the switch in, and they get some chip on glimmora with the venusaur or whatever's next to itnow, if you switch out glimmora knowing charizard switches out, you could get the jump on the next switch in with a better matchup, but if you're wrong and he stays in and attacks for some reason, now your switch in gets fried to a crisp and your charizard check just left the field the only reason to go for hard reads over risk minimization is if you're playing from behind and it's the only way to win, or if you're preserving a pokemon that is absolutely required to check something else later (e.g. if glimmora had already been taken to low HP and is your only answer to the sylveon coming in later, then you can't risk it staying in and dying on the turn charizard switches out)
>>59651253I cant seem to get a connection on my switch right now. I will get back to you in a bit!! Also I would like to trade for a Golisopod as well, been having pretty bum luck with the recruiting. I should be able to get a better connection at the venue.Anybody else here playing in side events today btw?
>>59651270The real trick is to make plays that still give you some advantage even if they don't work out optimally. You not targeting the charizard slot wasnt the wrong play because you predicted wrong, it was the wrong play because even if they switched in a steel or fighting or ground type to eat the power gem, they still take the damage and they are closer to KO range for a different attack, so you still wanted to target that slot whether they switched out or not. Not switching out the Charizard was the right play, not because they predicted right, it was the right play because if you did target the zard then whatever they bring in as a better answer to Glimmora gets to come in with max HP. If they made the switch they have a higher chance of still winding up in a situation where Charizard is out against a Glimmora with a speed advantage.You chose the play that was extreme high risk with low reward instead of no risk and high to medium reward, they chose the safer play.
>>59651129nice, main mega?
free him
>>59651367https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwlxSf_i9Mk&t=24
>>59651306I got an extra shiny Pod from ZA
>>59651253>>59651454I have an internet connection now and i can trade whenever you want
>>59651474Im ready, which game first
>>59651454The Golisopod doesnt need to be shiny if that matters to you btw, I am happy with any
>>59651490it's fine i got plenty, where do you want to trade
>>59651488We can trade both over home cant we?
>>59651520Yea
>>59651526I am fine with trading that way if you are.Also are you looking for anything in return?
>>59651533Home is good, don't need anything
>>59651526I'm also ok with trading via a different method if you prefer. You are the one giving me what I need so I am happy however you want to do it
>>59651537Whatever works for you
>>59648908I just realised I can test teams in casual. I've been experimenting in ranked and tanking my win ratio.
>>59651549Sorry I am having issues connecting on home right now. Would trading over scarlet violet work for you alright?
>>59651575tbf half the time in casual it's either 10 year olds or meme shit you'll never see
>>59651591Yeah that works. Post code when ready
>>59651596Lets use 59651596 if that is ok with you
New>>59651612>>59651612
>>59651596Thank you for the sinistcha!
>>59651623No problem, if you get home working just put something up in GTS and ill send the pod
>>59651596Do you want to still trade for pod?
>>59651631yea still here
How come some youtubers have hundreds of box space? That's not possible right
>>59651725They pay for it.
>>59650501Hot take, I don't mind if the Choice Specs and Band stay gone. It's nice having a somewhat slower pace where, if you want big damage, you need setup or synergy. Life Orb is just right where it's enough damage to turn 3HKOs to 2HKOs, but not enough that it turns a lot of 2HKOs into OHKOs.
>>59651725The $50 a year gives you like 1000 spaces and 18 team slots.
>>59651131To be fair poltergeist can do a ton of work too and Ursaluna can't do that. Plus Ursaluna gets raped by Raichu focus blast.
