>This move can't be used. It's recommended that this move is forgotten. Once forgotten, this move can't be remembered.when and why did gamefreak decide to do this?
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>>59652880sword/shield. gamefreak is lazy and actively despises its fans.
>>59652880Most of the moves that get cut were hardly ever used by anyoneRototiller, Ion Deluge, Flower Shield to name a few
>>59652950Just because you didn't use those moves or Pokémon or whatever other features GF removes, it doesn't mean the rest of us has to suffer for it
Hidden Power was cut for the same reason Gamefreak dropped having actual moves as event exclusives, it's to cut down on hacking/autism requirement. The rest are all just them thinking having 5 different 40 BP elemental moves for early game is dumb and pointless to maintain.
>Toys R Us Spacial Rend Darkrai is not allowed to exist anymore
>>59652993Hidden Power would also be redundant in gen 9 considering the gimmick.
>>59652993Hidden Power was cut because Terastallization and Tera Blast made it pointless.
return and frustration should've never gotten removed
>>59653051Why did they do that? Every Normal-type ran it as their main attack and everything else used it as a good filler move.
>>59653056Probably the same reason they removed IVs in Champions. In PvP it just encourages retarded 50-50s with no way to guess either way with how Ditto works. In game the move encourages grinding then having an extremely overpowered move super early.!
>>59653056For exactly that reason. Return was too good because it's a 102 base power move with no downsides and just about everything could learn it. Frustration is pointless because you need to go out of your way to make it as strong as Return and it was the only reason bitter medicine continued to exist, and there's no real benefit to making your Pokemon hate you that much. Return invalidated all other Normal-type moves except Body Slam. Far too ubiquitous.
>>59653061And why is all of that a problem when the exact same things apply to Earthquake?
>>59653061>Return invalidated all other Normal-type moves except Body SlamIf a Normal-type mon could learn it I always used Double-Edge over anything else. The recoil never bothered me and it's powerful as fuck.
>>59653067Mostly the difference is Earthquake usually comes near the end of the game, so you'd use other Ground-type moves before you get the Ground nuke that replaces them. Return comes pretty early.
>>59653061the downside was that it didn't hit anything for super effective damage
Sky Uppercut is still the funniest move that got removed.>its special gimmick is it can hit Pokemon in the middle of Fly, Bounce, and Sky Drop>it's a Fighting-type move, which makes it worthless against Flying-types which are 99% of the Pokemon that use those moves
>>59653081Irrelevant, since that's true for all Normal type moves.
>>59653084Which doesn't make it a "nuke", just a strong filler attack. Removing it was retarded.
>>59653087More like the strongest basic Normal-type move a Normal-type Pokemon could use unless it employed some kind of a gimmick or a downside for a stronger move. Again, Return's availability and strength invalidated the existence of other Normal-type moves.
>>59653083This is how I learn it isn't SE or even neutral on flying
>>59653083Pretty sure it was just a Shoryuken reference and wasn't given diegetic consideration until someone at Gamefreak realized it was retarded and cut it.
>>59653083Kommo-o used to learn that move the moment it evolved.
>>59653087I would not want to deal with Salamences using return or frustration with flying STAB
>>59654239One day Flying Types will get a good attack that isn't Brave Bird.
>>59653051What the fuck when was Return removed? What a fucking retard company holy shit
>>59654680I assume it has to do with the fact that the happiness mechanic is kinda pointless and difficult to keep track of.Imagine losing in some grand finals because somehow your pokemon dropped in happiness and their return was weaker.
>>59653041Hidden Power was cut before Tera was a twinkle in Gamefreak's eye.
>>59654823Lot of competitive players have someone else make their team for VGC while practising on showdown. All too easy to get them in a trade then forget to max their happiness again.
>>59653027Grim
>>59652880SwSh took the main blow for Dexit as well as the move culling which became the lesser controversy in wake of culled Pokemon. That said LGPE was already trying to ease players into it with the false pretense of not being a mainline game and not being exemplary of the direction of the core games to dampen the blow.
>>59652950Then there were the moves that did see use, like Return, Pursuit, and Hidden Power.
>>59652993>it's to cut down on hacking/autism requirement.They already solved that on the 3DS with regional marks. Sword/Shield had an NPC to legitimize any Pokemon optionally. There was no reason to completely gut transfer movepools after that, now there is basically 0 reason to ever bring stuff forward. You won't even be able to have any new ribbon masters in a few months.
>>59653051bnuuy
>>59652993>>59653061>>59653078
I was actually surprised that people didnt make as much of a fuss when it came to cut moves and thought i was the odd one out.>boo hoo, you cannot use shitty Egg Bomb now big whoop!Much like >>59652990 said, its not about the moves themselves, its about availability. Why cut out something that we used to have perfectly fine the last 7 or so generations and filled a niche?>But le event pokemon, but my hax0rzOh no, the poor small indie dev company that completely lacks the knowledge to implement proper checks in their games and allow/forbid specific move combinations, ITS PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE!>But think about all the animations and storage and memory and fuckAh yes, because no other game in existance uses hundreds if not thousands of animations for enemies or in their battle systems and still work fine. Again physically impossible!!!!This isnt 1998 anymore. Its almost 20 freaking 27, we HAVE the technology and yet we're still getting lowballed like that because People Will Buy It Anyway. Lastly, this isnt just genwunners or whatever being salty over their favorite shit move, this is the majority being mad over something we used to have perfectly fine before but we dont now because they're lazy/greedy cunts.
>>59658061>yet we're still getting lowballed like that because People Will Buy It AnywayThis isn't exclusive to Pokemon.No I'm not defending Game Freak and I despise them but let's not pretend that this is unique to the Pokemon franchise.The gaming industry needs to fall and fall hard. The disgusting monetization and enshitification that runs rampant in AAA games as seen in Call of Duty (AAAA if Ubishit) along with the blatant handholding and forgiveness like in "Focus, M" made manifest (aka Wolverine) (a linear game, mind you) is absolute proof we need some serious buck breaking. The failed abortions known as Concord, Marathon, and Highguard are even more damning evidence that we need another crash.And with all the talk about GTA 6 I don't care about the game, I just want it to get dumped and recomped for PC within the first month of release because I want to see the fallout and devastation for both Sony and Rockstar, and also because it would be a case of AI being used to fuck over corporations (give how the recompilation scene was boosted by it). Also I'd love to see the Switch 2 be hacked eventually because Nintendo also needs that bit back in its mouth.
>>59658070Thats pretty much it really. Some people are still in denial that a 1st party Nintendo studio would NEVER be stooping this low but here we are. I too have been anxiously waiting for said crash to happen because much like you said, its the only way for the scene to recover. Although to be fair things do improve but very slowly. The aformentioned abortions would be smash hits if they came out 10 years ago so seeing them flop hard today its a sign towards healing. Once the new generation of paperwei-- uhhh i mean consoles hit and its gonna cost like 1500$ to play a single (mediocre at best) game, then maybe the majority will finally wake up and not spend their money on it. Untill then, all we can do is wait, and play all the good older games of course.
>>59653078Return scales with friendship which means it literally scales with gameplay time and has the added benefit of rewarding not boxing. It's great game design, eye em oh
>>59654823>Imagine losing in some grand finalsAs if I couldn't hate on competitiveshit more holy fuck someone nuke gamefreak
>>59653051Good, this thing is a pain in the ass.
>>59652880It's called balancing, sweetheart.They should've done this WAY sooner. Pokémon is full of bloat. You shouldn't just stack everything on top of each other. Choices need to be meaningful to matter.>B-but it want le every Pokémon and every move because... I just want to, ok?!Stop being autistic. There is no reason for this other than "I want it to be there cause it soothes my autistic brain".
>>59653056Plus it was crazy powerful if you had any of the "ize or ite" abilities
>>59652880https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feature_creep
