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Come here for talk about all things Pokémon Mystery Dungeon.

Previous thread: https://arch.b4k.dev/vp/thread/59618101/ >>59618101

Romhacks Overview/Reviews: https://rentry.org/pmdglph

PMD Fan Fiction Archive: https://rentry.org/pmdg-ffarchive

PMD Guides: https://pastebin.com/Dbq61R5u
Explorers of Sky Romhacking Guide: https://rentry.org/skytempleguide

Everything about the Clover Guild: https://cloverguild.com/
Drawing Board: https://magma.com/d/wM0rog4EFo
Drawing Request: https://rentry.org/DrawReqPublic
PMD Comic Reviews: https://rentry.org/PMDComicReviews

Questions:
>What characteristics make a good PMD OC?
>What was the worst PMD OC you ever saw (share a pic too)?
>What is your most hated piece of PMD fan media (comics, art, romhacks, etc.)?
>What is the most technologically advanced thing that you think the PMD would should have?

Recap of the previous thread:
>Pancham-anon finished the second chapter of Amo & Lint (https://rentry.org/oz4wbsw4)
>Discussion on 3 popular EoS hacks, PSMD's flaws, gameplay of PMD as a whole
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Raboot Ghetsis. Spiteful little bunny man
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>>59676588
>What characteristics make a good PMD OC?
Anything that looks like the Pokémon they are meant to be, fits the PMD setting and isn't a legendary.
If you OCfy them to stand out, be tame. Scarfs, hair tuffs, bags and little more.
Any mon that's bottom 80% of popularity has the advantage of not really needing to be OCfied.

>What was the worst PMD OC you ever saw (share a pic too)?
Not Oc-fied, but a Gary Stew self insert.
>Super smart and liked by everyone
>3rd in command behind Wigglytuff and Chatot
>Helps everyone as a counselor with his smarts
(His smarts amount to racially profiling Pokémon cos he read the dex)
>The protag human was his trainer. Friends with Grovyle.
>Works to prevent the planet's paralysis by doing jack shit for two years before Sky
>Sad backstory where his sister was killed defending him, which mentally scared him and gives him mental breakdowns. Everyone around him is incredibly supportive, and even the bad guys take pitty on his plight.

>What is your most hated piece of PMD fan media (comics, art, romhacks, etc.)?
Bubsy Mystery Dungeon was literally made by an autist in welfare. Making PMD but Bubsy is the protagonist is already a horrible idea, but then she took Bubsy and made him a softy with self doubt that makes himself a hero. Also made him uncle to the partner, and father of a Sprigatito OC born of his nightmares to make it a found family story. All executed as well as you can imagine, with bad scene scripting and structure following vanilla EoS.

>What is the most technologically advanced thing that you think the PMD would should have?
You can get creative as long as it ties to the abilities of a Pokémon (Expedition Society has long distance communication trough Dedenne) or it's fantasy (the firsms). If it's an analog to real world technology, you should make it crappier.
Don't make it widespread. Giving a phone to background characters would disturb their rudimentary lives.
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>>59676588
>>What characteristics make a good PMD OC?
if you can still recognise the pokemon and if it isn't an animal recolored to be a pokemon
>>What was the worst PMD OC you ever saw (share a pic too)?
pic related might seem tame but it's the sort of shit that offputs me from reading a pmd fic. there's another artist who's almost as bad. most are
>>What is your most hated piece of PMD fan media (comics, art, romhacks, etc.)?
3 fanfics. they're all slop in different ways, free n forth, trailblazers, and realms of reverie. two of them are overly gratuitous edge pieces, the third is just a fetish smorgasbord. they're actually horrendous slop
>>What is the most technologically advanced thing that you think the PMD would should have?
technology doesn't inherently exist when in history people think it does, it's okay for pokemon to have it. what you don't want to do is have the technology replace something that a pokemon can already do by themselves.

super mystery dungeon's connection orb was promoted as and is referred to internally as twitter. if that's their version of twitter bearing in mind how super is still definitely not contemporary, then you can be lenient with adding things so long as you don't ruin the vibe, i feel
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>>59676588
>What is the most technologically advanced thing that you think the PMD [world] should have?
Pic(s) related, more or less. But ideally not much more.
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>>59676633
Reddit Ghetsis
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Hey all. Sorry for the long wait, here's the next part of Team Cypress's story. Hope you enjoy!

https://rentry.org/twoinredtwo

Many thanks to Vaporeanon, Toge-anon, and Glaceon-anon for betareading.
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>>59676792
>"the third is just a fetish smorgasbord," he says, in the Pokémon TF Thread
In other news: fork found in kitchen. More at 11
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>>59676588
>What is the most technologically advanced thing that you think the PMD world should have?
Honestly I would have no problem with a lot of industrial revolution-era tech (telegraph, early trains + steam engines, widespread usage of the printing press). Outside of already-established things though I would functionally cap it at the 1870s - 1890s at most.
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>>59676824
based, always nice to see more stories, good work anon.
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I really fucking hate PMD OCs and fursona OCs and I really do not know why I even hate them.
I wonder if it could be because the target audience is just the creator himself, while canon characters have a wider target audience? Maybe that is why they annoy me that much?
Or maybe it's just like the uncanny valley effect of taking something familiar to me and slightly changing it.
Or maybe it's that the artist "claims" the art with his unique OC so it isn't as universal as generic species?
Anyways, the best OCs are the ones which are just normal Pokémon but in custom clothing and outfits. These can actually look really cute on art and I enjoy them despite being OCs. I also do not mind if you add something like a sword to bipeds like that one Feraligatr OC I once saw.
Mildly irritating tier is giving them custom hairstyles and fur styling. They can still look cute but it is irritating.
Then comes details like scars, body shapes, tone differences in body colors, eye colors, eye shapes and all that shit. You get the idea. I really do not like seeing that shit.
And finally there is vile and profoundly evil shit like changing the entire color pallet like last threads example which just made me rage out on my punching bag with my baseball bat.
I also do not like shiny OCs. This has less to do with them being "bad" per se and more with my endless grude I have against the shiny game mechanic. Fuck that game mechanic. So glad only 1DX has it.
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>"Randall! There's a furry in this PMD group!"

>"It's a video game where humans turn into Pokemon."
>"Yergonnafindfurriesinit!"
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>>59676824
Cool, I'll give it a read later. Congrats on publishing!
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would you guys buy a hypothetical Super remaster? I never beat it back in the day and it's been in my mind but I'm wishing it had the new megas we got last year
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>>59677365
I don't really want any pmd remaster I would rather have a new game. Although I think PMD 3 needs one the mosy to fix its tiny dex.
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>>59677371
>A new game
>Another Super where it’s straight fanfic all the way through
No, let’s stick with the remasters for the time being.
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>>59677371
>PMD 3
Gates to Infinity? The one where we'd even have to pay more real money to unlock mons that already appear, but only in "you can't recruit here" dungeons?
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>>59676524
I just watched a playthrough of Future’s Gifts. Another male x male hack, plus it has Toby Fox Syndrome aka “give every side character they/them pronouns”. It’s fine other than that, but I wouldn’t recommend it. Still need to try The Neon Strip, or at least the prologue like that one anon said.

One idea that I think would be good but maybe not worth the trouble of actually making is some kind of affinity system between the two protags. Dialogue would be slightly different depending on how close they are, new cutscenes, more hurt/comfort while in the future, post-game dates at Spinda’s Cafe, all that lovey dovey stuff.
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>>59676824
Very good story, I really enjoyed Sierra and Santos's interactions and all of the encounters with other guildmembers. Fight scene was good too.
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Soooo do you guys always pick between Eevee/Skitty/Chikorita/Vulpix as your partner or are you guys molested by that one uncle as a child?
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>>59678600
Very weak bait. Try again.
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All my life I have never been unemployed enough to consider farming gummis in Marowak Dojo an abuse.
Final Maze is the only maze with free gummis that you can't even consistently clear without specific IQ skills e.g. Energy Saver. HMs in EoS are all dogshit, getting them makes nothing easier, and you can always lose them forever when you starve or die in Final Maze anyway.
Way too many romhacks made by wise guys these days. I just want to play EoS with gen 9 pokedex man.
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>>59679367
How shitty are the higher difficulty levels?
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>>59676824
Loved the story! Good to see these two again.
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>>59679367
>Difficulty options
>Vanilla difficulty does not change the Dojo
>"I just want to play EoS with gen 9 pokedex man."
Chat, am I fucking stupid? What's stopping you from picking vanilla difficulty and doing whatever you want in the Dojo?
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>>59679842
oh fuck yeah this art is kino. Going into my Pikachu folder
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>>59679388
Tried an expert playthrough earlier in the year, the difficulty at the start was actually kind of fun. Had to use full party control which was new and stacking up your team in front of 1 tile wide hall ways to try and bulldoze minibosses made me appreciate MD's combat in a new "tactical" way. By the time you get to the future arc the difficulty became retarded because the game clearly expects you to "grind" the dojo as much as you can. Which is exactly once per in game day, then they lock you out of it until the next day. Once I finally got up to primal dialga just for his roar of time to ohko the group through fucking light screen I dropped it entirely.
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>>59680191
Should've stocked on reviver seeds bro.
I'm always a bit mixed on the idea of directly controlling your party members in these games, on one hand it does lead to a lot less frustration, but on the other I feel like tard-wrangling your party members is a skill in of itself and part of the appeal.
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>>59676588
Why does Explorers have a fetish for water caves?
>Beach cave
>drenched bluff
>waterfall cave
>craggy coast
>steam cave
>brine cave
It's a very wet game.
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>>59680842
I only really find myself having to control my partners during outlaw encounters and bossfights. And even then it's just to get them to do status moves and debuffs before we wail on them.
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>>59676588
I'm bored to shit playing Super Mystery Dungeon... Does the game get better at any point? I don't know if I fucked up picking the fox cause all I'm doing is spamming down corridors to kill stuff.
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>>59681015
SPM is a slog imo and doesn't really get that good until the end and post game. The elementary school shit made me want to blow my head off.
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>>59681119
Are there any other mystery dungeon games that actually have some level of depth to them? I guess it doesn't just have to be Pokemon.
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>>59680937
Wanted to make fire types suffer. Or they just wanted to re-use a lot of similar tilesets.
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>>59681314
Play Shiren. 6 even has the dedicated PMD reference dungeon
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>>59681314
The Shiren games and Chocobo's Dungeon 2.
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>>59682188
>no torneko
>no yangus either unless you wanted to keep it to 1 rep per game
>no Gil
Elders really get no respect...
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>>59682188
Not him, I've played most of PMD and Shiren, is Chocobo 2 the only good FF one?

>>59682349
No one-way heroics character either, but I've heard the MD version of that game sucks. Shame because I really like the original.
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>>59682648
>is Chocobo 2 the only good FF one?
The one on the Wii (Final Fantasy Fables: Chocobo's Dungeon) is also good and adds a class system that should feel familiar if you have played a job-based FF like V. It also has good nostalgia-bait factor due to most of the music being remixes of FF music. I just find the dungeons and enemies boring compared to 2's, and the difficulty is on the low side.
It has a downgraded port for the DS and a remaster for the Switch (Every Buddy!). I haven't played the Switch remaster so I can't comment on the gameplay, but while it adds some stuff, it removes an anime-like intro song and the cutscenes seem to be based on the DS port's because they are much worse and there is even a major cutscene that gets completely ruined with censoring.

As for Chocobo's Dungeon 1 on the PSX, it is terrible and I can tell they were still trying to figure shit out. I'm not even sure if it can truly be called a MD game since it uses a very weird combat system that is not really turn-based.
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>>59682188
>Shiren
I've been planning on getting into that series. There's a bunch of different ones, so do you have a recommended order to play them?
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You think with Recomps/Decomps we can have a version of RT where you can play as some of the starters from EoS?

I'd love if Phanpy was a starter pick.
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>>59683273
Not him, but Shiren 2 on N64 with a translation patch is probably the easiest entry point, and it's a prequel to 1 so it's the first story-wise. Story is the one that's most similar to PMD too it's basically proto-explorers plot
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>>59676588
Aww, love to see Totodile and Cubone as a pair! This was my team last time I played Blue Rescue Team. I think I named them "Team WaniKara" or something like that in reference to their Japanese names. They look really good together.

The only thing is... the player character being Cubone raises some questions about the skull.
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>>59683296
The recomps and decomps as of recent are all done with AI, are of shit quality, and generally the PMD fanbase is composed of Bluesky autists who screech when the very idea is brought up. Best chance is learning to hack Rescue Team
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>>59683903
the blueskikes are the bigger problem between the two
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Ideas of monsters to fill this with?
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>>59684208
Use a random Pokemon generator
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>>59684208
Floragato
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>>59684208
Drifloon
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>>59684208
Linoone rushing through with mail
Ross streaking paint on the ground or doing graffiti in his sleep on that wall to the right
Parora flopping through the streets
And the random pokemon people are posting as natives
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>>59684208
At least one Lucario and/or Riolu.
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>>59683296
Rescue Team has a pretty short story, and you can take one recruit into all story dungeons other than the fugitive arc ones.
You can use a mystery mail generator to get most mons you want from the start the moment you can buy their friend area.
The moment the story's done, you can ditch the hero and partner, and use whatever mons you want.

Only reason to have them as the starter would be to cry onions tears as the fugitive arc mentaly breaks you.
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>>59684208
Random Pogeymon or Clover OCs...?
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>>59684208
Pikachu, duh
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>>59684208
why does this remind me of a local park lol
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>>59684208
Cool art, is this for a story or something?
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rapist creep cyndaquil with ghostly fire that evolves into a hisui typhlosion
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>>59685372
My friend is going through art classes, and I'm showing support by reading books akin to his courses. I finished Framed Perspective v1 and 2, and wanted to do something with it.

>>59684246
I am quite fond of G. Zigzagoon and G. Linoone.
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>>59685865
LIQUID!
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question for the thread, are there any bug types (from any gen) you think could feasibly make sense as MD starters?
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>>59686313
A lot of the 3-stage ones could probably work well, especially the ones that start off pure bug. I'd throw in for Grubbin, specifically.
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>>59686313
Larvesta and Sewaddle were the first two that came to mind.
After pulling up the list of bug types, I'd say Dwebble and Cutiefly
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>>59686313
Ledyba
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>>59686599
I enjoy Caves of Qud. Best roguelike where you can get killed by banana trees.
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>>59686313
Paras for maximum suffering in rescue team where you get murdered by 4x effective drill peck
But more seriously, Venonat and Ledyba are the only bugs I can really see fitting as a PMD starter, all others are too small/big or too weird to work.
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>>59686878
>one chance at isekai
>stuck with a parasitic mushroom on your back
>evolving means death
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>>59687288
What if you get isekaid as the mushroom instead
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>>59687488
>anon gets isekai'd as a native paras's mushroom
>keeps trying to influence the paras to go to places it can evolve so he can gain full control
>but every time the paras is about to evolve, some comedic series of events happens that prevents it
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>>59688079
i would read this, but how would it end? finally tricking the paras into evolving? or perhaps mr shroom realizes along the way that symbiosis is better and they live happily ever after?
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>>59688103
They get hit with ember.
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>>59687288
but enough about Bulbasaur
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>>59688809
that doesn't even make sense
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>>59688863
Bulbasaur haters don't make sense
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>>59688863
only Bulbasaur is popular. Not its evolutions
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>>59679367
>I just want to play EoS with gen 9 pokedex man.
i like explorers of fortune, it's the closest i've found to this
i don't think it has the full dex yet but it's getting close. it does add some custom things but mostly to make room for the new mons, i find them mostly unintrusive. i think the newest version adds an extra postgame chapter involving zacian but i haven't gotten that far in the newest version yet
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yo, still alive !
i haven't though of my new rebrand story for a while but i still want to do at least something, maybe writing a more casual little snippets and not pressure myself into astronomical expectations.

i'll make lil doodles to show what i want the most is interaction and funny ideas i have!
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>>59690311
Nice to see you're still around.
When are we getting Shirley au chocolat?

If you're in a drawing mood, the magma halloween board closes at around november 1st.
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>>59690311
>no october doodles like the last couple years
it's clOVER...
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>>59690311
cute doodles!
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>>59688128
I swear I got 999 damage against a parasect in explorers once when using a fire starter.
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>>59692279
you 100% murdered that thing.
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>>59692279
>>59693200
murdered that freak
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>>59692279
Damage multipliers strong in PMD


More news at 11.
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>>59693129
Exclusive items were unbalanced as fuck but I kinda wish they came back. If doing one for every pokemon would be too much work now then just having type-exclusives back would be neat, or maybe only starter-exclusives.
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>>59693551
The gems in PMD2 were type specific exclusive items that either protect from statuses for some times or gives 2x speed for others(!!!) if the weather is right.

That right there is extremely unvalanced, but when you note that some mons need Fog for the speed boost (Ghost types) while others need Clear weather (Flying types), that's where it becomes wild.
Weather band on Flying mons activates the Gem effect btw.

As for starter only exclusive items, I'm not a fan of mechanical incentives to stick to the hero and partner. And while this could just amount to a small bonus to make them more competitive, I don't want another Super situation.
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>>59693623
The funny thing is Ledyba got the speed boost from the flying gem, but its line also got an exclusive item that gave speed boosts as well. These stacked, so you could have a Ledyba at permanent triple speed.
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>>59693926
Wouldn't that also work with driftblim and unburden?
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>>59694809
Drifblim doesn't have 2x speed via Unburden. It moves at normal speed but gets 2 attacks every time it attacks. It's a pretty significant difference.
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>>59693551
Spike Chunsoft accidentally invented gacha relic/stat stick mechanic for an offline game in 2009 if you really think about it. I'm glad it's gone.
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Huh, they actually fixed leveling up freezing you in place for way too long in Torneko HD, neat. I was fully expecting SE to just leave the game to die after launch honestly.
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>>59693926
That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Shitmon in a Mystery Dungeon!: Can a Fully Evolved Pokémon with 35 Attack Comet Punch His Way to Victory?
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>>59695434
Cos everybody knows that enemy Ledian spaming silver wind and the packs of 4 sleeping Ledyba that set up screens and save guard to each other to later spam silver wind are chumps.
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>>59676588
>Feeling nostalgic
>Haven't touched the original mystery dungeon in a decade after I completed it
>Replay it
>End up as a Squirtle with my partner being a Charmander, a pokemon that is related to CHARIZARD.
>Name our rescue team "Team KANTOOOO"
>Having fun so far outside getting butt raped by moltres for nearly an hour.
After I inevitably complete this game again, What should I play next? I never touched the other several entries in this series but I know i'll probably be wanting more after this. Which ones are worth playing? And are there any good rom hacks too?
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>>59695588
You should try RT's postgame, most of the game is post credits. Otherwise, you could just play Sky.
inb4 the quiz gives you riolu
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>>59695588
I second this >>59695592
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>>59695588
>>59695592
Full recruitment in Rescue Team is cock and ball torture.
You can use recruiting all the legendaries as a good metric for compleating the postgame. Plus doing the Gengar sidequest.
Also give or take recruiting Celebi, if you don't want to do Purity Forest.
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>>59695130
That's surprising, I guess the Japanese fans were very vocal and unhappy enough to get them to do something. Still baffling to me that they spent more time making a twitch streamer integration mode than making sure the game ran well. inb4 chunsoft steals this idea for the next PMD.
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>>59695727
>streamer integration
>in fucking mystery dungeon
grim
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>>59695727
>tfw you stream PMD but viewers keep voting to spawn Perish Song users
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>>59690338
shirley will be baked!

>>59690435
thing are that i got a job and a lot on my mind, i wish could've done an October challenge but maybe I'll do a Christmas one this time to compensate

>>59690849
thx heres more!!!
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>>59696596
>a job
quit it
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>>59695434
In mystery dungeon games a Ledian who spammed Silver Wind with lucky +4 speed boosts could nodiff most legendaries (Except maybe Darkrai, and even that's just because the fucker has an illegal Ominous Wind in his set)
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>>59697227
Darkrai fights you with 6 abs. If you use silver wind, odds are you'll get a speed boost and be able to spam silver wind a bunch.
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>>59696596
kek, poor ross
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HM jumpscare
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>>59697722
If Final Maze couldn't get any more pointless in Sky, now it doesn't even get to keep HMs to itself.

At least here you get to use it right away instead of needing to escape orb/end the dungeon, cos for some reason, HM can't be used in dungeons.
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>>59697759
Final Maze in T/D definitely came across as "Fuck we don't know where else in the game to put this the HMs and these legendaries, screw it just throw them in here". Feels really tacked on, but i guess having a long, challenging dungeon with limited resources is kinda neat. Also being able to recruit really high level Pokemon from there is also nice, namely recruiting Shroomish that already knows Spore
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>>59697514
>Darkrai fights you with 6 abs.
>with 6 abs
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>>59698325
>retard sky dragon that can't look up
>gigachad that manipulated time itself and refused to elaborate
>frozen fart crystal
>evil fart cloud

Why was chadrai the BEST pmd villain?
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>>59696126
>tfw chat rolls the random warp event after you picked up an item at a kecleon shop
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>>59700374
>carrying a lantern when you yourself are a living light source
qt sheep either way
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>>59700428
Maybe he's just too lazy to produce his own light.
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>>59695727
Is this it, boys? Is this a sign that Exprorers remake is coming?
Could TPC be aware of Kaizo and randomizer PMD shenanigans they'd capitalize on it? Or would the fact that Nintendo is holding Pokemon by the balls make it unprofitable, considering how rarely people bought Switch II?
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>>59701343
The remaster was made by Square Enix, so that's another step removed from PMD.
I'd rather they weren't aware of Kaizo or randomizers. The former just amounts to brute force, and in the later dungeons end up blending in.
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>>59701462
I can at least understand randomizing starters, but I don't get randomizing enemies. These games are already random enough when it comes to that. Would be neat if they added some sort of challenge dungeon in a future game that made you a random pokemon though, and you have to see how far you can get with whatever shitmon you roll.
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>>59701343
Who the fuck plays Kaizo hacks besides streamers? And PMD randomizers are awful. I do not see TPC looking at these and viewing this as a profitable franchise.
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Any clover guild stories with cryptic shit going on in the background?
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>>59701905
Uh, you missed the part where we're talking about Tolneco's Mystery Dungeon remaster having a feature for chat to vote decisions for the player? That feature's meaningless for *anyone but* streamers. I'm just saying, most game companies do view (wrongly) streaming scene as perfect representation of the playerbase.
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>>59702546
No, they view streamers as advertising space. Not a playerbase. Chat integration just adds engagement to the streams which results in more sales
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>>59703675
Forget about designer gear. Crown PNGs are the true fashion statement.
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Are there any qol roms for the original rescue team red? I really wanna like that game but it's menu interfaces are madness inducing.
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>>59702966
>which means more sales
Yeah right, in this LARP economy? When at least 50% of gen alpha are former k-pop stans who consider themselves gamers by watching streamers play different titles for them because listening to song streams is all you need to be a k-pop stan? Sure.
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>>59703675
A PMD fashion magazine would be interesting to see, considering the crazy variety of sizes and shapes of Pokemon.
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>>59703675
>>59704252
Post more Pokemon in cool/cute clothes.
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who's the cutest partner for Chespin?
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>>59704566
Rollout and Pin Missile
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Explain how do you mitigate Grudge Traps without moralfagging.
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>>59704566
Wooper.
Or oshawott if you're playing super and don't starter edit
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>>59704555
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>>59703884
The only RT hack I know of is Green Rescue Team and that's just a difficulty hack unfortunately.
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If you ask me, you can't beat the simplicity of the humble scarf.
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>>59704671
Cute cosplays
>>59704788
I like scarves but I like more elaborate outfits too
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furt
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>>59695588
Finally completed the main story. I had a wonderful time revisiting it. Groudon was surprisingly a pushover though, I remember struggling against him when I first ever played this game but now? Total bitch rek'd with a couple of smokescreens and water guns. Magma cavern had some really good music though. Also fuck the Aerodactycles in sky tower. Super sonic spamming pieces of shit.
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>>59705493
Smokescreens are totally unbalanced in this game. Probably because Shiren's meta is all about running from fights and once you can't, fighting dirty.
It's what makes PMD games so timeless though, as a kid you play it more like a Pokemon title, and as an adult, you play it like a Mystery Dungeon title.
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>>59704252
Would the clothing give stat bonuses? Maybe something a little risqué, like lingerie, would be interesting...
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>>59705493
Groudon is for bullying by putting him under multiple status effects
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>>59707080
Is that Blue Rescue Team's layout? I never played that version, I've never seen it.
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Riolu Hero
Shinx Partner
It's explorin' time.
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>>59707566
And they were roommates.
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>>59707415
It's one of two. The default one shows the floor map + a text box listing the name of your party members plus their HP.

Explorers added more options for the top screen, like controls, text log and mission objective. But if you use any other than "Map and Team" or "Team Stats", you're mentaly ill.
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>>59707688
Nothing weird about it, teams are by default.
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>>59707764
>didn't know you could change it as a kid so I'm too used to having the map on the bottom screen to ever have it on the top
Really though why the fuck did they make the default in explorers show you the controls?
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>>59709210
>LET'S TAKE IBUPROFEN TOGETHER
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>>59709766
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>>59704555
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>>59710576
Way past cool
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Apparently at the Pokemon Center in Yokohama, there's these little keychains you can make with whatever pokemon sprites you want, and the sample ones are PMD references.

Whoever set it up even attached a tiny scarf to one as an extra touch.
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>>59711078
A Pokemon Center shop clerk likes PMD.
Explorers remake REAL!!!!!!!!!
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>>59711078
Cute
>No Wigglytuff on the right keychain
Can't believe the Kecleon family bought the guild.
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>Genned treasure memos with a wondermail S generator
>2 treasure chests in a row both containing normal ass Apple, one of which costed me a key
Aiiiieee I'll never cheat again!
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>>59712080
CUUUUUUUUUUUUTEEEEEEE!
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>>59698602
The best villain was Adventure Squad's
>The greed and selfishness that lies in everyone's hearts

Can't go deeper than that!
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>>59713506
I was unfamiliar with adventure squads game, I kneel.
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>>59713506
Is adventure squad really worth playing at all?
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Found something pretty funny at a card show: this Chinese bootleg card that stole some official PMD art. I bought it in a heartbeat, of course. Even though it's bootleg, it's cool to find anything PMD related.
Makes me wish the official TCG had some PMD references scattered around. They did make a Pikachu promo card based on RTDX, but I think that's the only one of its kind.
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>>59714342
Only for the gameplay, because the story is literaly just:
>Pick 2 starters who have no dialogue or backstory, and no quiz
>Start in a village and immediately get sent to a tutorial dungeon to rescue a Shuckle
>Shuckle says he went to the dungeon because he heard rumors that it had tasty food, but turns out it was the wrong dungeon
>Someone finds out that the rumored tasty food is "Amazing Chocolate" and is in the "Chocolate Cliffs" dungeon
>You go there, get it, and bring it back, but the entire village gets into a huge fight over who gets to eat it
>Everyone in the village is pissed at each other, so the village's leader tells you to fix this by going to a dungeon rumored to have a treasure capable of bringing happiness
>The treasure turns out to be a chest full of "Compassion Cookies"
>You share the cookies with the village and everyone starts happily getting along again
>THE END

I'm not even joking of abridging it. That really is all that there is to the "story".
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>>59714479
so what about the villain?
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>>59714526
There is none. I will have to use my expert literary skills to expand on AS’s story myself.
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>>59714526
The greed and selfishness that lies in everyone's hearts, from them wanting the chocolate all for themselves instead of sharing.
Either that or you could say that the villain is the chocolate bar.
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>>59714433
To this day I still don't get TPC's aversion to giving PMD anything outside the video games. RTDX remake was NOT a dud at all, everyone who love Pokemon as an IP loved PMD. Some of the best competitive mainline players loved it. Some of the biggest pokemon content creators loved it. Was it because the story of Explorers itself plagiarized from Shiren too much that Chunsoft won't let them do anything?
Apparently the reason Wondermail S generators can give you damn near any mission with any item is because they used to post a random code every day on the pokemon.com site? I wish the remake we had have a special wondermail of the month the same way mainline games have a Tera Raid of the month and such.
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>>59714433
I wish bootleg PMD merchadise were not this rare.

>>59714742
I wouldn't call DX a dud but the sales were uninpressive when you consider that it is a Pokemon game on the second best-selling console in history, and was released during Covid like Animal Crossing NH.
Heck, in just two months the Switch Pokemon Snap sold more copies than DX did in two years.
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>>59715430
Mystery Dungeon will never be a successful genre. PMD is the most attention it will ever receive
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>>59714742
The function of wondermail is to let players share missions with one another, thus why it contains data for any possible mission type, client, dungeon and dungeon floor, reward... Even stuff that can't normaly generate, such as floor 1 missions (in explorers, at least, treasure memos containing non-treasure memo fixed rooms...)
Them deciding to post one code a day way down the line is incidental.
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>>59716469
>a lump of grime for texture
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>>59716473
We've all tried easing up our storage space by bringing all the berries down to Spinda's only for that one Grimy Food to slip through and permanently reduce our max HP by 3. Happened to me when I was a kid with Oren Berry.
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>>59716578
You took my stat boosts! Now I'm gonna starve.
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>>59716578
Wonder if there's some insane player out there who specifically tried to debuff themselves with the cafe as much as possible for a challenge run.
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>>59717620
Can you beat Explorers of Sky with only 1 HP?
Of course you fucking can't
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>>59717882
>Explorers' MC gets turned into a Shedinja
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>>59717909
Doesn't PMD Shedinja actually get more than 1 HP?
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>>59718936
4, never gets more without sitrus berries or life seeds.
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Drawboard #65, our spooky-themed one, is complete! Next up is a blank board:
https://magma.com/d/UUZtur2ZUd
https://magma.com/d/UUZtur2ZUd
https://magma.com/d/UUZtur2ZUd
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>>59719343
nice art, very spooky
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>>59719343
Corybros it's so over...
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How would you feel if you arrived to the PMD universe as a Riolu? Honest feelings only.
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>>59720398
Given how the perception of Riolu as THE PMD OC mon has ben tarnished, I'd be like, "Are you fucking for real?" But at least I'm bipedal, and no one in there is gonna laugh at you for being a normie pick. Gaining a new sense in Aura, however it works, would be cool.

Biggest objection is that Lucario is a monlet.
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>>59720398
Actually would feel pretty cool. Firstly, main character. Second, Riolus are fighting types so they probably have a lot more energy than I normally do.

And cute
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>>59720398
That'd be one of the best.
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What are some Gen VIII abilities/pokemon that you guys think would shake up the meta quite nicely for romhacks and/or potential Explorers remake, assuming TPCI don't continue the RTDX trend and asking Chunsoft to turn the remake into a literal toddler game? I'll start
>Bulletproof
Should also protect the mon from thrown items on top of ball and bomb moves.
>Queenly Majesty
Should work like Intimidator (the IQ skill). Additionally every pokemon that attacks using a room move against anyone with Intimidator should roll the dice for cringe chance regardless of position.
>Gooey
Should randomly make an item in your treasure bag sticky every time you use a contact move against its user. Why? because fuck you!
>Moxie and Beast Boost
To balance the ability above, should work exactly like it was in the mainline games. Due to dungeon pokemons being unable to attack, let alone knock out fellow dungeon pokemon without conditions like confusion or substitute, these are near useless on an unrecruited mon.
>Revival Blessing
A portable Reviver Seed basically. Maybe has a caveat like you need to aim at an ally to mark them with revival blessing as a status in order for it to work.
>Throat Chop
Inflicts Muzzled, obviously. What if Gamefreak saw Chunsoft inventing the status and thought it was a good idea for sun & Moon?
>Grudge
SMD's nerf is great, but I think this should also follow the mainline games' rules of simply removing the grudge status if the mon that set it up uses another move. Because seriously, Grudge Traps should not be a run ender on vast majority of cases.
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>>59720735
I do see the Applin line being fun apple decoys.
Applin wouldn't be much of a threat, Appletun and Flappel would debuff you with the secondary effect of their signature moves and Dripplin can make an item sticky with its signature move.
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What do you do in this thread? Do you just pick your favorite pokemon, give them a partner and make art of them? Are you supposed to restrict yourself to the canon roster?
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>>59721247
>Are you supposed to restrict yourself to the canon roster?
most haven't for clover specifically, most restrict themselves elsewhere because they're usually making art for a playthrough
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>>59721247
Why stick to canon starters when you can make art of any 2-3 pokes?
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>90 floor buried relic mission failed because of an explosive voltorb tile
I fucking hate traps so much.
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>>59721383
So transphobic, anon
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>>59721383
Good thing I don't have to worry about this.
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>>59721383
Keep grinding for gummies so you can get the trap seer skill



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