Anybody else have these contradicting feelings towards it?I love the progression through the region and beyond it into Kanto. The music and atmosphere build such an amazing vibe, especially with the day/night cycle. Mechanically it was also a straight upgrade from gen 1.BUT, the annoying fucking leveling curve and gyms, terrible biodevirsity and exp distribution, all the grinding...How do you guys feel about it? Remakes included.
>>59685876>atmosphereArtstyle*
>>59685876I think the games largely suck, but I have utilized its competitive contributions to great success and enjoyment. Every stally player owes it for creating broken ass Blissey, and entry hazards, and trapping, for examples.
>>59685885oh and I forgot Baton Pass, the greatest move ever created in Pokemon
>>59685885>comp pokemonI hope you guys aren't this autistic
>>59685902>mashing ayou have the brain of a child
>>59685911>>mashing aHuh?
To this day I don’t understand retards who prefer GSC>>> HGSSI think they’re just being contrarian
>>59685876Low effort cashgrab for the little brothers who missed out on real Pokemania
>>59686017>Low effort
>>59685998hgss has some corny shit
>>59686017this+ little sisters>>59686076yes
>>59686076>omfg dudes they made the pixels dark blue at 8 pmok now make the game not half empty and the pokemon not gay forgettable shit
>>59685876Really the only problem with Gold/Silver is the level curve, which is actually pretty fun if you choose to play around it. Last time I played through the game I ended up rotating between 8 or 10 Pokemon all thru Johto just to keep things interesting. Ended up replacing half of my Elite Four team while touring Kanto, as well. It's also better enjoyed if played in intervals of around an hour each day--G/S were designed around the daily events/battles--like an MMO.
weedle is viable
>>59685876I think gen 2 is very flawed but the flaws are excusable due to their age and the general charm and style of the game shining through. HGSS on the other hand are soured because many of these same flaws were consciously left in while others were fixed
>>59685876I feel contempt for these games because Game Freak clearly phoned it in out of spite and laziness and any merit or are soley due to the Iwata and one MAYBE two Game Freak employees who actually give a shit .But I feel the need to defend them solely because the laziness, bad balance, and other player insulting issues with this game are endemic to the series as a whole yet only the Johto games are held accountable.
Only 'flaws' I really care about are some mons that would have been cool and not too strong if they were found in Johto being relegated to Kanto and ending up forgotten until later gens as a result, stone evos not being easily accessible in G/S (which was fixed subsequently) and the split in directions to take in the middle of Johto resulting in the middle third of the game being way too easyMost other complaints are total memes, and the games' positives in terms of atmosphere, music, sheer amount of stuff to do, shine through too brightly for me to care that much
>>59686211Too many idiotic low IQ manchildren born in 1992-93 parroted "it's the best game ever, you just had to be there and there's day/night cycle and you can go to Kanto and battle Red" for literal decades when the execution of all of them was botched to hell. They wanted to participate in the dying fad by playing a shitty time-wasting MMO with daily chores, not a Pokemon game. Gen 2 is only now getting the negative treatment it deserves after its unearned praise from the extremely vocal online minority for over 20 years.
>>59685876Love 'em. Had their flaws but so does any game.
>>59686321>extremely vocal online minorityI blame Crystal for that. Picking Kris was reportedly when a lot of trannies discovered themselves. It's why gen 1 has such a dominant normalfag fanbase but none of them care about gen 2 as the phpbb forums and 2009 Youtube comments did
>>59686243This was organic opinion for years of real fans who played the games and thought for themselves. Johto only became hated when the fans who played johto ages out of the franchise and got replaced many idiotic low IQ late zoomers and early Gen Alpha for the lies of grifters and groomed and parroted "it's the worst game ever, Whitney doesn’t use a Miltank, all the pokemon are shitmonsx there’s no postgame, level curve, bad balance, no identity, and leans on Kanto" for almost a decade now, despite the fact the most of those are complete lies and the few real flaws are endemic to the series as a whole. Nu-fans need a scapegoat base deep down they know Pokémon’s main series is heavily flawed but rather than self reflect than get an identity outside of boot-licking, they outsource their thinking to trolls who don’t play RPG’s . Gen 2 is getting undeserved bag after its years earned praise because grifters gaslit casuals to make johto their designated scapegoat despite the most recent johto game being almost 20 year old
>IMG
>>59686346Reading those retarded Serebii and Gamefaqs posts and Lets Play comments from underageb&s pretending to be 30 back then was truly a travesty. Sheep, all of them.
>>59686321You summed it up quite well.
>>59686380Shut the fuck up, she summed up nothing,
did IMGfag say something
>>59686385you graduated during Obama's first term
Both haters are praisers are right, the haters are more right. The game unfortunately sucks, there are no usable mons or even good TMs outside Return. It does depend what version, but overall it's trash in the actual gameplay department, awesome with the features and worldbuilding.
>>59686682>there are no usable monsBefore that one faggot shits up the thread about what "viable" and "usable" mean for 300 posts, let me just say that he's right.
