A thread for the creation and discussion of fan fiction and other fanworks - anything that involves a story and/or reading. What've you been reading? What've you been writing? What would you like to see more of?>Thread question:What's the most unnerving thing you've read? >Previous thread:>>59678546
>>59690671Posting this because I didn't notice the thread was dead. Anyways! Hyphen just updated: https://archiveofourown.org/works/3881578/chapters/254284276Astra now finally out of training arc hell!>>59690671SELLOUTS.
>>59690671I was with my gardy and making out when the xtransceiver rings.I answered it and the voice on the other end says "What are you doing with my daughter?"I told gardy and she said "garde-gard-de-voir-voir-vior"THEN WHO WAS XTRANCSEIVER
>>59690671would racism be more accepted in the pokemon world, since people already discriminate with pokemon, it's not a huge leap to do it with people, especially unovans
>>59690671>tqpicrel, read at your own risk.
This is what I assume IMO's Selene will be.
>>59690869I really dislike that Selene.
>>59690869I really like that Selene.
>>59690869Looks like Selene needs more theanine.
>>59690874Why? She's winning.
>>59690869Yuritroons are so obvious.
>>59690869I really hate this artist
>>59690675>Training arc hellDoing fucking training chapters often feels like pulling teeth, no wonder you're calling it training arc hell.
>>59690671>YayoiHella good taste, OP
Why doesn't every mc simply close their eyes and immediately unlock their psychic potential, aura, and god genes? Why doesn't YOUR mc do this?
>>59691033Not every MC needs to become a jedi. And there should be great consequences for touching the greatest powers in the universe.
>>59691058>there should be great consequences for touching the greatest powers in the universeYou get zero summed
>>59691060aus loves dick too much to do thata pokemon zero sum is being kidnapped and becoming the consort of one of the gorillion arms from which all eggs are derivedthat's right your precious egg is actually the result of some random dude fucking an arceus clone and didn't come from your pokemon
>>59691072actually I regret posting that second part disregard it
>>59691060>be a dream>wake up Were the dwemer too intelligent?
>>59691033Because that requires patience, and my MC has none
>>59691060>picrelqrd?
>>59691185It's the Dwemer during the Battle of Red Mountain where they collectively realized they were figments of a dreaming God's (capital G) dream and through that caused their race to stop existing in the dream. The only remaining Dwarf was a guy who was exploring a different reality at the time so he was unaffected and doesn't know exactly what was happening, though he got infected with the disease spread by having an imperfect knowledge of the falsehood of reality at a later point and now is a fatboy in a spider walker.
>>59690820>people already discriminate with pokemonWhat do you mean by this?
>>59690904Honestly, I feel like training arcs seem redundant as a concept because ideally training would be happening as part of the whole story. Like in DBZ there is no training arc(?) because martial arts training is part of the overall concept of the show. This especially goes for Pokemon when the average plot focuses on Pokemon Trainers who train pokemon. Integrating engaging training into the natural flow of the story should be an inherent goal.
>>59691033>Tch, too easy. I'm here to have fun, not win. Winning is going to happen either way so why rush through the best part?
>>59691072>your precious egg is actually the result of some random dude fucking an arceus clone and didn't come from your pokemonNot true for me. I'm said random dude and Arceus is my pokemon.
>>59691322So you can let a Ditto copy you after you unlock everything, then make them your rival and hire a Move Deleter to set you back to normal.Imagine not playing on MC must die mode
>>59691060Struggling not to horny post so hard right now.
>>59691198If it were me I would simply keep existing.
>>59691304have you played ZA?
>>59691565Isn't it funny how it's the Dragon Clans forcing all this propaganda of letting every type of Pokémon live in our cities, meanwhile they only have Dragon pokemon in their villages?
>>59691605Those damn Blackthorns! I bet they're the reason Red left his post as champion of the elite four.
>>59691565>literally "Pokemon took our jobs"it does sound like a serious issue
>>59691605Some shabbos o*tsiders can become honorary Dragons however
>>59691565I'm not seeing the discrimination here. That
>>59691620Sounds like a skill issue.
>>59691687is it a skill issue not having four arms?
>>59691684>Some people just aren't fond of themthat's just a nice way to call them pokeracists
>>59691565>i'm not sure i could tell my partner apart from others of its speciesThis is the worst kind of pokefucker, the politically correct one, she doesn't even give him a gender, let alone consider him anything more than a tool.
>>59691705what if her partner is a Magnemite?
>>59691316Spice and Fox does this well.
>>59691716objectmons rights are human rights
>>59691334Last dude who did that cut his dick off and turned it into a spear
>>59691316>Integrating engaging training into the natural flow of the story should be an inherent goal.Well said. Realizing now I incorporate a lot of this into my work, just more as a checklist for big battles usually. But this also means I'm interested if Hyphen does a training arc well.
>>59690675>Ao3 is on maitanceGreat, now what will I read now?
>>59692003Isn't Hyphen cross posted to other sites?
>>59691316>DBZI'd say the way Goku gravity trains on the way to Namek and everything with the Hyperbolic Time Chamber are mini training arcs.Even in martial arts stories there can be value in really dialing-in on the training for a bit; it can up the stakes, justify a sudden increase in power, provide exposition to the reader/watcher, and even help with pacing if it's done right.
>>59692041it can also bore the hell out of the reader if done wrong
>>59692003>maintenance will be lasting an estimated 2 to 4 weeksnow I have an excuse not to work on my fic
>>59691692Machamps aren't stealing any jobs because they have been doing construction work for decades or longer. Actually that has me questioning which jobs are actually being stolen that wouldn't already be done by a pokemon? Machamps are one of the few pokemon that have opposable thumbs.
>>59691831Why would he need to cut it off to do that?
>>59692262>they have been doing construction work for decades or longerthe woman here implies Pokemon workforce is either new or still not a thing, at least in Lumiose
>>59692262pokemon weren't paid, that's why it's a problem now that they do
>>59692254>12 hours turns into 2-4 weeks>FFN hasn’t worked for me for over a monthThe insatiable attention whore inside of me may fiinally be slain.
>>59692262any Pokémon can work
>>59692264He had to use it to kill a bunch of monstrous children that were created when he had gay sex with a god. Also it let his kill his best friend and fuck everything up for centuries to come.
>>59692285Yeah but your picture illustrates my point. What jobs are being replaced here? A human isn't going to be providing direct electrical power to a sign like the magnemites, he isn't going to be hauling around steel beams, and if his job is to do nothing but hold a flashlight then I don't know what to tell you. Now being a painter is a legitimate job, but then you also have to consider that all these pokemon need trainers and managers.
>>59692323See couldn't be me, I would simply let my monstrous children run amok and not kill my best friend.
>>59692266Yeah, but that's retarded because pokemon have literally been shown to work with humanity for generations.
>>59692003To Live is To Dream finally got to two badges and should take a solid week and a half to read unless you're no lifing it.https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/to-live-is-to-dream-sinnoh-pokemon-trainer-quest.979188/Premise is a homeless street urchin with suppressed psychic potential in an older abandoned section of Jubilife finds out trainers on their first journey get a free daily meal at Pokecenters. She has quite a bit of backstory that gets revealed slowly through the writing.Setting is more grounded than official media. A frayed utopian Sinnoh, more of a G1/G2 feel with the crime and grime. People being people, the good and bad y'know? An overall good society with assorted criminals, clans clinging to power, and a cult trying to undermine everything. Pokemon in setting are all sapients with their own inhuman psychology. They've built their own parallel society of norms that vary region to region.Still keeps the feel of Pokemon with all that.Length is mostly due to being a true journey fic. Its got a shitload of sidequests and isn't A-B-C badge and galactic scalp hunting.funnily enough someone was porting it over to AO3 recently, got just past the first badge before the site went tits upif you're fully AO3-brained, I think some of the tags were: Chunnibyou, Feral Behavior, Raised by Wolves, Chaos Gremlin, Psychic Abilities, Childhood Trauma, Grimbright, Unreliable Narrator
>>59692345>What jobs are being replaced here? Men operating machinery and construction vehicles
>>59692352oh goddammit forgot to mention its written in quest format, so readers vote on what the main character does next (within sane bounds)its lead to some funny shit where we accidentally fucked the QMs plans a few timesI think the quest format is why it gets overlooked in here as well, it isn't in the normal SB writing section; though it is now the longest thread on SB in terms of post count
>>59692354This is the pokemon world though. They would be having pokemon doing those jobs already long before those types of vehicles would have been invented.
>>59692363you can have both
>>59692347Nah he had to kill his BFF because otherwise he couldn't become a god-king. The gay sex babies are complicated. Like one was a sword, another got turned into a city, and a third became an embodiment of a past god of a squid race or something.
>>59692363Horses were there before cars
>"Knife-wielding robber apprehended thanks to the cooperation of a Pokémon! No injuries!">"Why?! He's my partner!!!">"That's exactly why, because he's your partner."brutal, fics should learn from this
You know reading Blood Meridian finally tells me what all this 'the man' business in SELLOUTS is about. Stylistically that is, maybe it really is the MC dissociating but I think SELLOUTSfag should have gone all the way with aping the format of Blood Meridian. I say this as someone who's received similar advice about formatting recently.Really referring to Andrew as 'the man' seems even more awkward and clumsy now.
>>59692401Betraying your master when he needs you the most makes a Pokémon lower than dirt.
>>59692401I don't get itwhy is the bee cryingwhy is the cop crying
For those who partake, Prince of Po Town updated just in time for the Ao3 crash.https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/136046/prince-of-po-town-pokemon-isekai/chapter/4267527/chapter-70-terms
>>59692619The joke is that beedrill is so trash, its existence was an active detriment to its master, the thief.
>>59692731>>59692743Just in time for the Ao3 outage, it's a shame QQ excludes non-members, so we're getting a RR link instead.Luckily for me I approved and saved Keith's latest comment for the site went down. I'll catchup on PoPT tomorrow.
>>59692619The Beedrill got so horny at seeing its master wield a knife that looked like one of its stingers it prematurely ejaculated on the knife, which caused it to get sticky and got his master arrested.Beedrill is crying because it prematurely ejaculated and looked like an idiot. The female (futa) cop is crying because she's remembering how she fumbled her first love by cumming too quickly.
>>59692756>>59692743Is this related to the PHP shit infecting the internet/another AI vulnerability/the shitty jeet code or what?
>>59692352Man I really need to start reading thisI just ain't got no time bruh
I thought it’d be offline for like a day not a whole month wtf. This is a great excuse for me not to write but I should probably have three or four chapters for them by that time is up
>>59692793It wouldn’t surprise me, especially with the AI agents going through everything now.
Appears to be a security issue.
>>59692793wouldn't be either, the jeet 4 shit only affects MITM from a client side sort of shit, and the certs got delisted so fucking quickly the issues mootAO3 is Ruby on the backend, no PHP, they were never affectedits some other security shit, could be AI finding vulns, could be a stupid admin got social engineered into running freegames.exe, could be something thats been sitting around for years and only noticed now
Physical eng ver now for salehttps://seijun.booth.pm/items/8981971
>>59692989Nintendo ninjas?
>>59692903>>59692951>Some authors left because FFN is a mess>Now this happens FFN won
>>59693081If I could upload even a one sentence statement explaining my lack of posts I’d be okay with FFN shitting itself. Unfortunately, I can’t even upload a sentence explaining that I can’t upload chapters anymore.
>>59692585Beedrill actually saved its trainer, but it's too soon for you to get it
How much has ao3 being shut down impact you
>>59693182minor inconvenience at best, I'm not that insane
>>59693182It has made not reading SELLOUTS much easier
>Commenter critiquing harshly>A lot of their points seem to ignore context or things outright stated in the narrative>Admits to skimming chapters when addressedGoing nuclear would be so fun but wouldn’t be productive at all.
>>59692363Reminder that Conkeldurr taught humans how to make concrete
>>59693706>Conkeldurr indirectly killed ArceusWhat a chad
>>59693706I remember a human-supremacist writer once brought this up in their fic just to downplay it. Something about the Conkeldurr not actually teaching how to make concrete but rather serving as inspiration for an ancient human to make concrete, who then taught it to the Conkeldurr.The lengths some people go to deny pokemon intelligence or contribution to pokehumanity is funny.
>>59693791Mixing water with dirt aint exactly rocket science.
>>59693808>Concrete mixed by Conkeldurr is much more durable than normal concrete, even when the compositions of the two materials are the same. magic concrete
>>59693271>Getting non-thread fic commentorsBut wait, what if I'm that user and am engaged in a psychological warfare campaign against you?
From Origin of Species. Do (You) agree with this perspective on Pokemon? It's hard to find a flaw in it (unless you are an edgelord). ***“Let me see if I get what it means to be Leaf Juniper,” Dr. Sotala says. “If I may?”“Please.” Leaf smiles. “If you do, you might be the first.”“I, Leaf Juniper,” Dr. Sotala begins, “Believe that pokemon suffering is as important as human suffering. In practice I accept that humans have more intelligence and agency, and so have the ability to affect the world in ways pokemon don’t, but this power comes with a responsibility to be good caretakers of pokemon, the same way humans feel a responsibility to be good caretakers of children.” (...)“With some exceptions, most people believe the suffering of human children should be reduced, in theory at least. Children are the ultimate innocent, and in most humans we have a part that believes deeply that innocence matters, and bad things should not happen to good or innocent people. ... Many people do not feel this with pokemon, who are considered threats first… but they should, because pokemon are no more responsible for their actions than human children are, and so long as they’re made harmless, the acceptable amount of suffering for both should be equal.” (...)“I, Leaf Juniper, believe that for most pokemon, life with a trainer who treats them as a friend or family member is better than life in the wild, even if used to battle wild pokemon. Because dying painfully in the wild is the default, they have a better chance of a longer, happy life with a trainer… even with the added risk of occasionally fighting wild pokemon.”
>>59693819>because pokemon are no more responsible for their actions than human children arethis differs depending of the Pokemon, Noivern and Gorebyss are said to be cruel in their Pokedex entries
>>59693819Children are little shits though
>>59693819No, that's kinda stupid. They're animals, pokemon, a different standard applies. They kill each other all the time and some individuals and species can have cruel personalities. Besides that there's no reason for a species, humans in this case, to give another priority over themselves.Eliminating unnecessary suffering is good and all but unless it's something really fucking smart and helpless like a whale, I think normal environmental regulations are fine.
>>59692401I really like this account's art and the little stories in them
>Machoke's boundless power is very dangerous, so it wears a belt that suppresses its energy. does this happens to Machamp too? What would occur if it gets removed?
>>59694341It would be very painful.
>>59694355>>59694355>>59694355>>59694355
>>59693271>productiveBut fun is a product
>>59693810Fool. I'm actually pretending to be the writer to bait you in a psychological assault on you.
>>59693819Dumb it down for me.
>>59694355For who?
>>59694548you gotta treat pokemon well because they're dumb
I just can't seem to work out in my head a way to worlbuild in which it is reasonable for there to be large class differences, like there is not a single reason for hunger to ever be a thing in the Pokémon world when you have smart animals capable of just making food from basically nothing
>>59693819>but they should, because pokemon are no more responsible for their actions than human children are, and so long as they’re made harmless, the acceptable amount of suffering for both should be equal.This is the biggest issue with the attempt to treat all pokemon the same, even discounting major legendary ones that are capable of fundamental changes to the world that would lead to humanity's extinction, there are hundreds of species capable of harming humans easily and within them species that do it on purposeThe problem is that this assumption is that ALL pokemon are inherently good AND that they are incapable of reflection, both of which can easily be proven to be false unless you
>>59694563This why you don't buy a rotom phone.
>>59694554pokemon civilization is an alien civilization, denotations between class don't necessarily need to be comprehensible
>>59694554that's because Pokemon world is an utopia, with ocasional planet-destroying villains
>>59694554how the fuck do people starve IRL?I guess its a skill issue
>>59694637It unironically is, it's just not the starving person's skill that's the issue.
>>59694552Are pokemon an allegory for niggers?They're dumb, work for free, fight each other for fun
>>59694554Orphans are still a thing Poor people are still a thing Fucked up places are still a thing In Alola the Tapus were assholes that went around destroying places because they wanted to or were angry and the swords of justice exist because human wars went too far and started affecting Pokémon.So once you take whatever Masuda and the others say about it being a perfect world and look at the shit stated in the games their world outside of like the 10% is fucked and only the 000.00001% of humans get to be pro trainers
>>59694676>niggers>work
>>59694676see >>59691565
>>59694685>only the 000.00001% of humans get to be pro trainersI think thats more dependent on how you define a pro trainerthink major league baseball, those are all pros yeah?but are all the minor league players pros? AAA, AA, A, Rookie? theres like 8x the number of MLB players in all thosewhat about the partner leagues? the female leagues? the draft league? the independent leagues? the college leagues?and this is just for baseball, consider just how many football, basketball, hockey, soccer, hell even racing leagues there arethe numbers start adding up real fuckin quick
>>59694757>how you define a pro trainergym leaders, elite 4, champions and maybe battle facility trainers but only frontier brains, the rest are mindless clones
>>59694554Every trainer is born with a fixed POTENTIAL score, which determines how high they can train a pokemon's level. The MC was born with SSS rank which is why everyone looks down on them but it's actually the strongest.
>>59694554Just make them not able to make food in industrial quantities.Or they can, but those Pokémon are rarer. Or transportation is an issue. Or the food produced isn't perfectly fit for human consumption.
>>59694554Just because resources are there doesn’t mean that people get them, either through incompetence on one end or you’re dealing with people that can’t be helped. Like perpetual homeless people or crackheads in countries with massive welfare programs, you can have everything there and still fuck up. My answer to it in fic is that things are a lot cheaper and efficient than the real world but that doesn’t make it free. Paying for Pokemon food is fine for smaller Pokemon without issue but an elite Pokemon is going to consume multiple times more food as a baseline regardless of size. If you want a fancy bag you’re still going to have to cough up a lot of money. So while life is cheaper as a whole it doesn’t mean you don’t need to work for it or that you can afford everything
>>59694990This is true and explains why top tier trainer veterans will cap out in the 60's in the games, but this also does not answer the question posed by anon.
Fucking Pastebin and their fucking SMART filters.
Chapter 32 of Spice and Fox is out. If I'm not forced to job hunt the next chapter should be out on the 15th.Recommended that you just paste into your own Notepad or Word program of choice. Goddamn AO3.https://dpaste.org/iBBOw/raw
So, are there more sites beyond AO3 and FFN to post fics? That isn't threadshit, of course
>>59695265I also post on Royal Road (dedicated serial webnovel site; mostly not fanfic but has a large userbase), Space Battles, Sufficient Velocity, and Questionable Questing (those three are forums).
>>59695204>Just use rentry
>>59695214I for one blame the AI bros crashing all site security.
>>59695315AIbros finally lost it after years of nobody respecting their hallucination machine and years of them being billions of dollars in the red
>>59695315>>59695350There are no "AI bros", any drooling retard can now access and use these magical digital genies to do whatever the fuck they want. Hackers, regular criminals, your next door neighbor that learned about AI a week ago. You don't need ANY qualifications or knowledge on what it is, to prompt the machine to do your bidding. EVERYBODY in the world now has access to vastly intelligent homunculi whose entire existence is devoted to solving whatever problem you put in front of them. Do you realize how fucking TERRIFYING that is, even outside an online space? People are already AI generating and 3D printing custom medicine and chemicals. How long until AI drugs, AI engineered plagues, AI-made biological weapons? Every single field benefits from this, every single disgruntled worker in any discipline, evil motherfuckers looking for revenge and to cause harm, and hyper-fixated autists with little to no oversight, all given the tools to advance their goals in silence. The world is a very big place, lots of people across many different cultures and backgroumds, how much fucked up shit do you think people have brewing this very second, in a damp basement somewhere?
>>59695373@rot is this true?
>>59695214>There's nothing wrong with, uh, asking if you can feel a Machoke's armsGay
>>59695417Not if she's a girl.
Which fic is this?
>>59695484Bianca...
>>59695628Most of them, I think? Pokemon as a setting generally has an optimistic outlook on things, especially the canon main characters which are all varying levels optimistic to the point of being braindead. The only fics that don't have hope would be the grimmest grimderp fics
407 of 445 pages proof read. A lot more mistakes in this part since it's sections I've never had time to do re-reads of.I feel like maybe I need to touch up the last part of Day 43 a bit more. It might be a little lacking.Something to look at tomorrow night when I have time.What a time to be working on the chapter where the MC has a date with a ghost.
>>59695628none, edgelords won
>>59695628Mine (eventually).
why are Gyarados never shown flying?
>>59695933All of their normal prey lives in the water. They only really fly when migrating.Alternatively:Gyarados are rare enough that they're rarely spotted in the wild.
>>59695933Mate...
>>59695214>damaged goodsWow! Do you talk to your mother with that mouth William, calling a girl used goods! Also Carolyn calling William out on his perversions is funny. Staying out of it is also another very dad reaction from Soren especially in this very specific type of situation.It's a bit funny imagining Kadabra using a phone to text.But man, Soren's dad is funny, I mean I don't really see him and Will as romantic, but I understand how he can come away with that. William is Bisexual after all. It's not like he knows, but he probably does suspect something about the Team Haze business.Good chapter, but copper hair and dark skin? I think the closest character to that description has been Joyce from the grass-type gym.Anyways I liked the chapter Spicefag.
>>59695993I stopped playing Pokemon games since gen 7, but don't tell anyone
>>59695933reminder:garchomp being able to fly was a dei esg sweet baby inc inclusion to appease dr*ggers, Gyarados are the true owners of the sky
>>59696039>Staying out of it is also another very dad reaction from SorenI suspect his dad does not approve of his own preferences, so rare Soren sympathetic moment opting not to kinkshame Will.
Would vegetarianism be more common?
>>59696417Who there be Pokémon that turned to vegetarianism?
>>59695373>vastly intelligentthere's your problem mr altman, this isn't even remotely true yet
>>59695373in the pokemon world? yeah
>>59693819I wonder who wrote that
>>59695373sources tell me the Stone family has hundreds of Metagross slaved as data centers
>>59696566>local council voted to install yet another Metagross farm in the vicinity>after they put up the flock of Beldum to "protect the children" last month (we send children to die in the wilderness all the time mind you)>Gym Leader all of the sudden has a much nicer car, wears more expensive jewelrySomething fishy is going on
>>59695417Just because a character would go "Yeah, if I was a girl I'd absolutely fuck a Machoke (M)" doesn't make them gay.>>59696039>>59696259I like how speculations aren't on the non-existent plot but rather who wants to fuck what. The next interlude chapter will be a fun one for me to write, even if I'm kind of dreading it at the same time. Thanks for reading.
What’s the scariest moment (ir clossest to) in a Pokemon fic you’ve read? Bonus points if you add a threadfic as well.
>>59696884When Andrew SOLD OUT
>>59696840>speculations aren't on the non-existent plotI speculate that galo sengen bob marley is an informant in Team Haze working for the detective guy, or an undercover cop working with him.
>>59696840You really should less deprecate less, I actually thought there was a plot and that it was incredibly straightforward. I even made a wild guess about who the contact actually was.>>59696935The cop being connected to the informant seems sensicle. So I agree.
>>59696884When I was a kid and watching youtubers read pokemon creepy pasta
>>59696884>writing horror fic>not much horror>next chapter cranks the horror way up compared to anything seen yet>unable to post it on halloween because ao3 is downThank god I have that excuse or I'd have to admit I just didn't finish it yet.
>>59696884Kuzey getting almost rapemurdered had pretty creepy imagery.
>>59697237I thought it was more erotic.
>>59697354It can be both.
>>59696840Are we gonna get any background interlude chapters for the rest of the dysfunction junction gang?
>>59696840>if I was a girlsuuure
How many Bisharp have committed seppuku after losing their battle in League tournaments?
>>59697658None they are dark types who do not need to uphold their honor. That's why Hisuian Deciedueye died out and became ghost types.
>>59695735427 of 445 pages proof read.I'm so close to finishing the proof read, but I'm just too tired to give it my all right now.I've noticed the last part isn't written as excitedly as I'd like it to be, so I'll need to address that when I'm more "fresh" next weekend.
>>59697415Yes.
SELLOUTS review by a non-thread regular: https://recordcrash.substack.com/i/218462394/sellouts>I couldn’t make it past the second chapter, so I usually wouldn’t review this, except that I think I’d be doing you guys a disservice not to mention this: someone ripped off Blood Meridian as hard as he could, and he did this FOR A POKÉMON FIC.15>It reminds me of that one porn game made entirely out of repackaged David Lynch movie scenes, clueless players recommending it to me based on how avant-garde it was. I wonder if I would have thought this was a high-quality original fanfic if I didn’t know anything about literature.>I haven’t even read Blood Meridian, simply being aware of Cormac McCarthy’s style and remembering some quotes I’d seen online was enough to realize something was off.I'm sorry this is too funny not to post.
>>59697859>Someone ripped off Blood Meridian as hard as he could>I haven't even read Blood MeridianCome the fuck on. I don't even like SELLOUTS and I think that is horseshit.
>fic doesn't have Ashnime in tags>still contains Ashnime elementspure diabolical
>>59697874What, like using a few CotDs?
>>59697859As somebody who hasn't read Blood Meridian or SELLOUTS I agree because I've seen people post memes.
>>59697874Going to have a walking talking freak Meowth in my fic, fuck you. Brock will own a flying car and will hit on the female lead, and Red will show up in the finale to one shot the villain with his Pikachu.
>>59697902Walking talking meowths and Redwank are things outside of the ashnime at least.
life without ao3 hurts
>>59697910when has a non-anime Meowth ever talked in the games? if you say PMD, PokePark or Pokopia I'll get mad
>>59697925PMD, PokePark and Pokopia.
>>59697925also pokemon channel
>>59697934I see
>>59697863The funny thing is that he recommended Blood Meridian to be in his comment section, I rather liked it.
>>59697910You forgot the freak part. That's important, Meowth is a sexual deviant.
>>59697415>>59697856To expound upon this now that I am awake, there's one coming up pretty soon. Kind of dreading/eagerly awaiting writing that one out as it's been in my head for years.
>>59697938He did say "and" so...
>>59697887Ngl but the worst parts of SELLOUTS prose are the parts which rip off Blood Meridian, structuring half of the sentence with "the man's at the front is clunky and unlike Blood Meridian it doesn't commit to the style it chooses. SELLOUTS is funnier than Blood Meridian, and I'm talking about the intentional comedy.
>>59695214>Soren came back from training tiredSo seething that Tyrogue enjoyed training with Will that he went at it hard.
who would be the least popular Gym Leader realistically? Besides Giovanni, duh
>>59698439From Kanto, it would be Surge. Is what I would have said if I didn't just remember that one guy from Alola who built a gym based on his. But Surge in the anime is a dick who bullies trainers and brutalizes their pokemon. Manga Surge is a murderous terrorist. Game Surge is a paranoid war vet. Its implied that he's a soldier from a former occupying enemy nation. Next up would be Brock who is not very noteworthy but he does have that kid who hypes him up in his gyme.
>>59698439In-universe, Larry, boring ass dude
>>59698459>>59698439Surge has personality, he's memorable, popular with young men at the very least (his second largest demographic? Middle aged women buying calendars of him shirtless and flexing). The least popular gym leader overall would have to be some literally who from Kalos like the gardener old man. Least popular in Kanto would probably be Blaine. Who do you think would bring better polling numbers, old scientist in some isolated island, or fit veteran with a quarterback smile presiding over one of the region's major ports? In times of crisis, to MC events, to serve as a face for ads, the League would pick Surge over Blaine every single time. Second least popular is probably Brock, who's stuck in an out of the way town with a museum as it's biggest draw, doesn't have a lot of presence, and doesn't use flashy pokemon.
>>59698439>Giovanni>UnpopularLooks like someone isn't saving the world from devastation.
>>59698498>old scientist in some isolated islandIn my headcanon, Blaine is the host of a popular TV quiz show
>>59698498I'm basing my opinion off of popularity in their own region, and since Kanto is part of Japan and Japan is notoriously nationally loyal they would vote the American least popular.
>>59698524>most seats are empty >audience consists of geriatric geezers and little kids, likely their grandchildren Popular locally, maybe. But I could see Blaine having been Kanto's Bill Nye in his prime. It's funny imagining a Bill Nye that helped engineer a psychic type demigod without anybody ever suspecting a thing. At least in the Manga, I think Fuji is credited for Mewtwo everywhere else
>>59698571
>>59698571Japan is fine with America, they loathe Korea though
>>59698580I find it funny that Japan's enmity towards China and Korea stems from the fact that they raped them too hard. Truly a country of ugly bastard rape
>>59698459Surge is an unovan immigrant, he just doesn't fit in kanto's society. Alolans love him because he's a hero who comes from close by that's making it in a foreign country.
Would your MC cross-dress in order to join a Pokémon tournament for female trainers only if the prize was really good?
>>59698579All Might is loved because he's a hero who saves everybody, and he's American themed based off of Superman. Surge not that.
>>59698714No, GLFanon. I don’t want to have to tell you again.
>>59698714My MC crossed dressed to walk the fashion runway.He considered it part of spy training.
>>59698733If anything people in the pokeworld should hate K*losians, they're the ones that unleashed the nukes, albeit on themselves.
>>59698797I think you're just Kalos biased.
>>59698797I never really cared for the gen 6 games but I think the ultimate weapon and Kalos wars are not common knowledge
>>59698797Unless you are from Kanto-Johto most regions seem to be so isolated from each other that you don't even get the know their basic history
>>59698874>>59698896The Ultimate Weapon IS the Ultimate Weapon. The peak of military technology in the pokeworld for 3,000 years and counting, which is very, very impressive. You'd think it'd get a textbook mention at the very least.
>>59698900I'd bet Sinnoh dishes out heavy bribes to keep academics and other regions from acknowledging the deeper and richer histories of other regions. A lot of people get really sensitive when the topic of Celestica's actually not very ancient window of existence gets brought up.
>>59692401Oh goddamn it.It was a sting operation
>>59698714They already are making a load of money as a Gym Leader. Parading herself around is the last thing she wants to do in the first place. So unless it was literal millions it’d be no way.
fuuuuucckkk, my portfolio
>>59698714Tobio would if he was actually a trainer, a scam is a scam. Except he is no longer a scam artist. So the technical answer is that no he wouldn't because he would never win, and he no longer robs people. But there is an alternate universe where Tobio crossdresses to enter the tournament and makes off with the prize money when nobody is looking.
>>59698714Hoshi would literally explode if he was ever put in a dress for any reason. Instant heart failure.
>>59698714This is a really avoidable issue. Just have someone else go in your stead? Sounds like you want to cross dress
>>59698714My male MC would do it for fun, this is his fetish.
>>59698714He wouldn't pass because he's too unc and can't battle for shit, so no.
>>59699267Never heard of non-transferable prize?
>>59699267The point of the scenario is that it's absurd, don't overthink it
>>59692352Sorry, I don't read anything with a female MC
>>59699501bait
>>59699504>trannywouldn't it make more sense for them to only read female MC fics?
>>59699501Sorry, I don't read anything with a (human) female MC
>>59692352That word count is daunting. Even if half of it is quest stuff, that's still nearly a million words at only two badges.
>>59699578fucking furfags get out
>>59699644My MC is forming a harem of legendary pokemon. And yes, they don't have a human form, I'm not some tasteless pleb.
>>59699649enjoy your PokeAIDS
>>59699706>doesn't know that pokeaids just unlocks human EV training
>>59699724>pokecum has very good NUTRITIONal values
>>59699649lubby chudder
>>59698587the three hate each other equally for those reasons
>>59699771Funnily, killing Reshiram is also something he's going to do.
>>59699643Its closer to about 1/5th quest stuffThing is it really isn't filler in any way. The author hides foreshadowing and has little character moments absolutely fucking everywhere. Sure yeah you could cut down the wordcount in places. But at this point even the goddamn Cooking minigame has its shooters.So sure yeah there's a 10k word Pokemon Calvinball scene for example. Which gets her no closer to getting another badge.But its also her first time being in a large crowd since figuring out shes psychic. It reveals just how drunk and out of control she can get off a crowds emotions, all while the first human friend she made since being homeless tried to keep her lid on.And it was just really funny kid shit, I'm surprised there's never been a similar scene in the anime.And then mechanically, it was the first psychic control challenge. Everyone had to vote between a series of options, more voters overall improves the benefit, but we also had to maintain a percentage balance between voting options them. Which was an absolute goddamn clusterfuck to organize between what ended up being 262 people.Or lets look at the latest gym battle. 48k words, but it featured an impromptu concert exhibition followed by what was essentially a Dark Souls bossfight. Because by no sane means can a Sunkern beat a Roserade.So we went to insane means.All the while a goddamn battle of wills played out in the background, calling Gardenia to task for her neglect of Eterna Forest (which is an Xianxia Hellscape) due to just how busy she is.It was 48k words of goddamn Peak.
>>59699790actually here, I cut out the quest parts of that Gardenia battle, it was 33k words after that, so 15k of overhead in that battleand thats one of the more overhead heavy segments
>>59699779Is this why the Treasures of Ruin have Chinese names?
>>59699790>Or lets look at the latest gym battle. 48k wordsI'm writing a battle that currently has over 4K words and it's tiring as shit to write, skill issue for my part I guess
>>59699790The more you shill this, the less I want to read it. But don't worry, keep going for the rest
>>59699790If I can't read a gym fight/an action scene in one sitting I'm not reading your shit nigga
>>59699814the author has pretty high throughput, that battle was written in two weeks in 13 segments, with a vote between eachshes really good at improv writing the bullshit we throw at herbut yeah keep at it man, grinding is the only way to improve>>59699818I've been told I am an awful salesmanit ain't the only thing I shill on here tho, ya'll fuckin loved Peak Elf Performance>>59699822skill issuealso not the author, I do it to fuck with them
>>59699790I've accepted that I'm simply too far behind to enjoy the story. 48k words on a single league-standard battle is simply too much unless you were participating in the thread's votes and planning along the way. I'd be bored to tears trying to catch up without skimming and outright skipping entire sections.
I struggle to write battles at all. How the fuck do you manage more than half my entire fic for a single battle?
>>59700022As someone who runs a quest, they greatly amplify word count, especially in fights where every turn is generally an update.
>>59700028>where every turn is generally an update.That is... how do people get excited for that shit? Is this something where you had to be there?
>>59700031>how do people get excited for that shitYou write it well. Stakes helps.
>>59699822Skill issue + reading comprehension + attention span
>>59700089don't you have any other cookie-cutter answers?
>>59692352This format is so dogshit. I can't even tell what's the quest or not.
>>59700022They probably pad it with restating the same thing over and over and flashbacks and implausible levels of thinking. That’s the only way I can imagine having like 100+ pages on a battle. The readers probably forget what was in the update like two or three posts back anyways.
Have you ever worked on your fic and thought "I just wrote some bullshit but I don't care"?
>>59700028Namek fight, got it
>>59700181I am unable to, if i did it would haunt my thoughts until i fixed it
>>59700022It's gotta be 6v6, maybe doubles so it's actually 12v12
>>59700181No, but I second guess every other decision and frequently rewrite chunks like half a dozen times.
>>59700181>Have you ever worked on your ficno, stop reminding me
>>59700031You know how SI stuff is popular because it lets the reader vicariously live the power fantasy? Quests are a step further because the reader actively participates in how that fantasy plays out.
>>59700092No, I ran out. Unfortunately I'm just a boomer trying to be cool so I don't know enough popular lingo.
>>59700181That's literally my writing process.
>>59700181bullshit goes along with Pokémon by hand, so yes
>>59700171Pokemon take a LOT more punishment before fainting, occasional spectator POVs, the battle is effectively a multi-stage puzzle with the goal of trolling the gym leader, a verbal battle in the background, and I included the intro and outro segments as part of the battle.If nodiffing Gardenia was the objective, we coulda voted for that and genuinely knocked her out in under 6k words. That wasn't the goal, mindfucking her was.hell I'll break it down further:3.8k on Intro4.4k on Magnemite vs Cherubi5.4k on Magnemite vs Nuzleaf16.2k on Sunkern vs Roserade Dark Souls battle3.2k on Outro15k on voting overheadAll the "thinking" is in the overhead with all the vote options and info.ain't gonna break it down into what each segment was PoV wise because fuck you read it if you want thatThere's only been three major battles like this, this was the longest by far.>>59700195you're not Entirely wrongless screaming, but someone did make this pic as a joke>>59699849You could try skipping some sections but even the training bits reveal character.The quest format essentially mandates much more Show not Tell. So while Fics can handwave training away for example, a fade to black or such. Quests have to actually show part of it. Not every second, but the setup, the result. A single line "you learn Sanic Boom, you're winnar" won't cut it.And thus, 323 words is spent learning Roar, partially, but while advancing two character arcs. And that was a Short example.It really is genuinely excellently written and I think it stands on its own rather well. The voting base is actually increasing as it goes on, and variations of "holy shit I finished reading and this was great" or "I made an account for this" happen regularly. Which you wouldn't expect if people were being filtered by the length or "you just had to be there"-ism. One vote hit 600+ recently, and the non-voting base way outnumbers the voting.Hell, AO3 was liking the mirror before the site went tits up
You guys look at word count?I just start reading until it ends
It's kinda hard to write around natures without making all pros seem sociopathic by using mints and changing the personality of their partners just for them to punch harder
>>59700397Then don't include mints.
>>59700397Then don't include sociopaths.
>>59700397Then don't include pros.
>>59700437Yeah, what would they be, some sort of Most Evil Trainer?
>>59700361remember when Ash's Hawlucha broke a Trick Room by attacking it?
>>59700439They'd be the scientist trainers from the games, the ones that use x items when you fight them
>>59700397Mints change the stat distributions, but the flavor preferences of the pokemon remain unchanged.I interpret this as they don't actually change the pokemon's personality.
>>59700388I'm too slow of a reader to not look at word count. Unlike many of you I am only mortal and have finite time on this earth, so whenever I try reading something with a huge word count I get distracted because that's a huge chunk of my limited lifespan being spent on one single thing.
>>59700633You could just use the first sentence to not sound like an asshole next time
>>59700649Shut the fuck up mankey
>>59700651I hope you slip on a comically large banana pell causing you to yell "yeowch..." and fall headfirst into an open trashcan filled with fish remains
Hilarious, go figure it was an Indian scraping all the content from AO3 and reselling that as ai slop audiobooks. His on-site poll was '50%' in favor of his service so it was really well received and not a bad idea according to him. Massive izzat loss.
>>59700633If your time was as precious as you say, you wouldn't be reading pokefics at all
>>59700666But I like pokefics.
>>59700633read fasterread so fast you accidentally skip half the chapter and have to waste time re-skimming to figure out if a new name was introduced already and you just missed it or if the author is introducing the character in an odd way
No one owes it to (You) to read your gajillion word vomit monstrosity. Less is more and if you can't confine your fic to typical novel length it just shows you suck dick as an author and are NEVER going to make it
>>59700743>Impregnates youWell what are you gonna do now?
>>59700738I could read faster but setting the internal movie to chipmunk speed only works for comedy fics or straight slop.
>>59700661Couldn't hate them enough
>>59700745Post more of that Selene one anon hates
>>59700766Well I'm that one anon so good on you.
>>59700661that alternative ao3 host site?
>>59700774ah, its thishttps://ao3.life/>>59700661>Yours truly,>a 17 year old from India that thought they were doing something good
>>59700633>he doesn't cultivate through boosting his reading qi
>>59700743A god does not write for his subjects. He writes for himself.
>>59700796With the push of a button, I have my AI servant pump out thousands of words in a manner of minutes, what would take (You) weeks and months to match. Who is the true God here?
>>59700788>speedreadersissies the second they have to read an academic text or anything other than fanficslop they already know all the terminology and characters of and retain roughly 15% of after reading
>>59700788I got somewhat into cultivation stuff because of these threads, but the one I read to completion, ISSTH, only had 3.3 million words. TLTD is already over half that and it's not even past the third badge.Just imagining how many words it will have by 8 badges... my cultivation is too lacking to chew through so much fine character growth and journeying. I'd need to contact my local alchemist and get some meth pills to overcome such a tribulation.
>>59699807No it's because Chinese is shorthand for exotic...... Unless you mean in an indirect "there'll never be a China region so they might as well" way, then yes.
Okay TLitDfag, I'm going to start reading it tonight after I play some Rain World.If it ends up not being worth it I'll come to your house and shit all over your favorite plate and cup as revenge.
>>59700826Blasting through a book at one page a minute, getting only half of it, and then going back through the entire thing more than once is kino. Retain something new every time. If it's not good enough it's not worth a single quick read.
>>59700661Saar totally thought he was doing the needful and totally not trying to redeem. Honest.I wish Covid was really as bad as they acted like it was so it could have wiped out India singlehandedly. Their shithole is the ultimate litmus test for whether a plague is the real deal, if india isn't a giant corpse dump then there is no plague.-Said Ash Ketchum.
>>59700904This is cope for being an ADHD riddled retard
>>59700908ash should ask dracovish to use fishous rend on india
>>59700661I don't understand how this is a security risk though? Anyone could still do this
>>59700916Supposedly saar also got ahold of fics that were never made public, unpublished drafts, etc, implying a database breach
>>59700909Say the shitter who presumably finger reads one page every five minutes. You'll get faster as you get older. It's okay.
>>59700826the difference is that I read fanslop on the phone that I also read ifunny posts on whereas actual literature is read from a book
>>59700826The average fic reader barely avoids the threshold of functional illiteracy. My discerning readers on the other hand are Mensa-certified geniuses and future Nobel Laureates of Literature.
>>59700922Holy fucking shit this is next level of greed. Was there even a fucking market for this? It's not enough to scrape an entire site, you just HAVE to have the drafts too? This feat merits Israeli citizenship
>>59700949So true
>>59700826Scientific journals fuel my realism autism
>>59700996Have you read Origin of Species or other rationalfics?
>>59701026I like to keep my delusions pure and unbiased
>>59700827funny you should say thatthe TLTD author actually started a side quest during the current hiatushttps://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/an-incense-stick-of-time-cultivation-xianxia-flash-quest.1343190/>Immortals.>How many tales of immortals have spread far and beyond? Even in the most distant and foreign of lands, there are rumors and whispers of what exists past the boundary separating the earth and the heavens. Spells of inconceivable power, secrets beyond mortal ken, figures of unfathomable beauty, clashes between heroes and monsters and spirits and gods—these have each been subjects of hearsay time and time again.>Yet the oldest tale of them all, that even a child could recite by heart, is in the name itself—immortal. A cultivator is a figure who has chosen to cultivate immortality: to break past the limits of time and mortality itself before their own time runs out.>Very few possess the capability, and even fewer receive the chance. A fraction of a fraction of mortals are born with the ability to absorb and refine the earth's and heaven's dual breath. In that regard, it can be said that you are truly among the most fortunate.>There's just...a problem. A teensy, tiny issue, really! You see, the average time that a mortal human being must race to extend their lifespan is around sixty to seventy years...>If only your karma in this life were so profound.>[ ] Easy Mode: Your body possesses the mortal lifespan of 1 year.>[ ] Normal Mode: Your body possesses the mortal lifespan of 1 month.>[ ] Hard Mode: Your body possesses the mortal lifespan of 1 day.Winner is Glaucus Atlanticus, the Blue Sea Dragon, a weird little sea slug
Enquiry: Do you consider the Life Orb, Flame Orb & Toxic Orb to be artificially made, or are they harvested from a naturally occuring crystal somewhere out there?
>>59701188Off the cuff I'd say natural, but if I were making the distinction in a story I'd first go on a minimum half hour autistic search for canon evidence pointing one way or the other
>>59700022Read fics with good battles and copy the macro shit about them. It’s not hard.
>>59700799A pig boasting of eating slop. You waste your own divinity being content to simply consume.
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