which characters or pokemon do you think get glazed the most in the franchise? do you mind the glazing?
RedIt's cancer
Why don't they glaze Kris more? First female character, all Johto and Kanto badges, and she can beat Red at the top of the mountainEthan and Lyra too
Why ask the obvious? It's Red and Leon.And yes, I do. It's beyond obnoxious how hard they get shilled and shoved down our throats. Specially Leon. Red at least has Original MC Privilege so you can at least "understand" it even if you don't like it and knowing it's just because of a meta-reason makes it easier to ignore. No such thing with this random out of nowhere nigga they that they now want you to believe is better than everyone else and the best and the strongest and everyone loves. There's nothing worse than when a franchise starts telling you which characters you are "supposed" to like.
I don't mind Cynthia glazing because I love Cynthia
>>59697779Red's reason for being a legend was him beating a region's league (out of many others on the world...), and taking out the local mafia. That's it, nothing special when you compare it to what other protags have achieved (preventing global extinction events). It just Kanto nostalgia pandering in full display.>It's Red and Leon.Add Ace Combat protags to the mix. The dicksucking there is unreal.
>>59697652Fat PikachuSometimes
>>59697652Cynthia and Charizard. I'm just so tired of seeing them, and I can't stand the audiences they pander to (coomers and normies respectively).I don't mind Red being glazed cause he's THE player character, the first one. I think it's fair to say he's legendary, he's the embodiment of the franchise's origin.
>>59698023>Charizard>Leon's Charizard>Pokemon Origins going fine until final ep had to zard glaze>Zard getting two megas while other kanto starters don'tugh
>>59697652>which characters or pokemon do you think get glazed the most in the franchise? For humans: Probably Red, Cynthia, or Geeta No, I didn't play Sword and Shield so no clue about Leon.. For Pokemon: Charizard, Lucario, and Pikachu are all obvious picks. Though frankly I think Meowth is a strong candidate at the best of time.>do you mind the glazing?I like most of the glazed characters to at least some extent. None of it ever reaches Dragon Ball levels of "THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE RESOLVES AROUND THIS ONE CHARACTER!" even at the worst of times. Cynthia is probably the most important to the setting and the story as a whole and her main role is "had a famous ancestor".
>>59698041>Pokemon Origins going finei agree with you in principle but origins was fucked even before they turned it into a mega zard wank
>>59697652Is there anybody or any pokemon you wish got more glazing?
Red and Cynthia but it makes sense Red is meant to be (you) the player from the last game and Cynthia is a legit threat and one of the first women gen z masturbated to.
>>59698053>Is there anybodyUnironically: Whitney. Mostly because I just like the idea that she's once a in generation genius that just doesn't put in the effort because of how scatterbrained she is. No, I'm not the Whitney anon.> or any pokemonI want to say Weaville, but they already got plenty of support and while I want him to be better from a gameplay perspective that's mostly because the treasure of ruin powercrept them rather than a inherent flaw with the mon.If I had to pick, unironically, Lugia and Ho-oh. I get that we are probably never getting Legends Johto but I do feel there is more that could be done with either of them.
>>59698053If Gamefreak are going to KANTOOOOOOO can they at least glaze Leaf as well?like the fucking mobile games are making fun of how unglazed she is. they don't even glaze her in the mobile games to the extent they glaze Red
>>59698056A lot of Cynthia's reputation mostly comes from the player side of things. It reminds me of how Ike gets shilled a lot in Fire Emblem mostly because of the players rather than the other way around.
>>59698059I also support Whitney glazing. I've never gotten around to playing the johto games, but she's one of the trainers I hear people mention the most. Iconic among the gen 2 characters
>>59698064>A lot of Cynthia's reputation mostly comes from the player side of things.I actually prefer that over a character getting shilled for "lore reasons". Feels more organic.
>>59697652Red's the only one who warrants it but it's still tiring. Also I hate that nearly everyone has jumped on the bandwagon that he's a mute autist. It was a fun idea at first but there's no way it's canon, npcs respond to him in the game a few times so it's implied he prompted them.Besides him, Cynthia, who doesn't really deserve the attention. People only like her because of her design and she's a female.And obviously Charizard. It's just too forced. Take masters 8 for instance, half the trainers have a Dragonite but it's not because they're overtly shilling it, it just happens to be associated with high level trainers, so many of the trainers already had one from various points in the series. Charizard on the other hand is always front and center. People say Leon is shilled, but he's not, he's a literal who that's barely acknowledged as existing now that Galar is over. He was just the vehicle for Charizard to be front and center, because how else do you excusably bring a 30 year old pokemon back to the spotlight to sell games and cards.
>>59698070How can you be a Whitney fag and yet have never played her game? You can reach her in an hour, she's only gym 3 and Johto is comfy af.
>>59698064Ike gets shilled because that was the first FE game most people played so they all know him like they know Pikachu. It helps that he's disgustingly op in his game too.
>>59698083>Also I hate that nearly everyone has jumped on the bandwagon that he's a mute autistFunniest part is that he's one of the few main characters that canonically talked in game, even if it was just for a gag.>And obviously Charizard. It is a bit too forced. Like you said, it makes sense for the like of Dragonite to get a lot of presence among skilled trainers. Dragons are said outright to be hard to train. Having one is a shorthand for "this trainer knows what they are doing".
I've really enjoyed seeing Colress reappear(his glazing doesn't compares to the most popular characters, but it's more than most other characters get)
>>59698088>Ike gets shilled because that was the first FE game most people playedNobody played Path of Radiance or Radiant Dawn. If you want "First game" privilege, you give it to either Lyn or Marth.
Eevee's cute, but i'm a bit tired of seeing all the Eevee glaze. Pokemon has plenty of other cute pokemon tooThey literally had a trainer in the anime whose purpose was just to have an eevee
>>59698096I'm torn on Eevee glaze since I agree when it comes to base Eevee, but Eeveelotion glaze should never stop.Like, I'm really annoyed that Eevee in Lets go couldn't evolve. Eevee is basically the perfect starter.
>>59698053Lorelei>>59698094Idk all the people I know irl who played FE started with PoR. True that no one played RD though (and I heard they turned Ike into a blank non-character in it which didn't help.)
>>59698104>Loreleii really liked Lorelei's house on the Sevii islands filling up with dolls!
>>59698093I like when they bring back characters like this. He was a literal who to me but I enjoyed finding out he was from a prior installment, same as seeing Grimsley again. Reusing characters builds them up as fully-fleshed out instead of making them disposable shill vehicles like >>59698096 or Leon
>>59698096same, it essentially makes a new eeveelution impossible
>>59698104>LoreleiFunny thing is Game Freak clearly likes shilling Lorelei. It just never seems to stick with the fans.
>>59697652CHARIZAAAAAAAAAAAAARD from KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>59698110>GrimsleyOh yeah, loved seeing Grimsley trying to live his best lifeI'm surprised N isn't glazed more or we haven't seen him ever again since Black and White 2 outside of the gacha game attention. He's really popular
>>59697683She’s just proto May.Unless a significant redesign comes along for some crystal remake, there will never be any reason to promote her when a much better version of her already exists.She will be in collection and anthology type games because she existed but that’s about it. She will never have any real spotlight.
i'd like to see Silver pushed a bit more. We've seen his damn dad again, we've seen Red and Blue now that they're older and look like a couple, might as well see how Silver's doing now that he's older.I'm actually surprised he didn't appear in Sun and Moon when a version of his dad is stirring shit
>>59697683>>59698059>>59698132what i'm getting here is that johto is underglazed
>>59697808I wouldn't mind glazing Cynthia if you catch my drift
>>59698144despite being objectively the best region yeah
>>59697883It's also because he did it all alone which characters even in gen 1 glaze the fact that he took down Team Rocket without any help. Meanwhile every other protag gets help >Ethan gets help from Lance>Brendan/May gets help from Steven in Emerald and the rival in ORAS>Dawn/Lucas gets help from the opposite gender, Barry, Looker, Riley, Lake Trio and Cynthia>Hilda/Hilbert gets help from Cheren and all the gym leaders (haven't played BW1 in forever so there's probably more I'm forgetting)>Rosa/Nate gets help from Hugh, Cheren, Iris, Drayden, N>Calem/Serena gets help from their friends >Elio/Chicken gets help from Hau and Gladion against Team Skull and Aether, and from Lillie, Guzma and Colress against Rainbow Rocket>Gloria/Viktor gets help from Leon, Hop, Zacian/Zamazenta, Team Yell, and Piers>Juliana/Florian gets help from Nemona, Arven and PennyEven the Let's Go protags got help from Lorelei, their rival and Blue. The only other protag that defeated the "evil" threat without any help is Brendan/May in Ruby/Sapphire.
>>59697883>nothing special when you compare it to what other protags have achieved (preventing global extinction events)That crap is when Pokemon jumped the shark. I enjoy the games but gd does every plot now need to revolve around >child interacts with deitiesThe series started as a bug catching and dog fighting simulator, exploring your local town as a kid.
>>59697681Fpbp
Since Wind and Waves was supposed to be an anniversary game like Sun and Moon that had lots of returning characters, which people or pokemon do you predict will get to be glazed in the game, if any? Or do you think gamefreak are over glazing the old stuff a lot
>>59698053Torterra
>>59698338that detective pikachu sequence revealing torterra was pretty coolhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9K2BUjOhII
accurate listing of glazemons and unpopulars?
>>59698059Whitney seems more to me like a mediocre battler carried by happening to choose a decently strong pokemon.
>>59698088>>59698094the first FE game people play is smash bros
>>59698389Dewpider does not deserve this...
I feel like Gardevoir is a glazed mon, but more subtle than charizard. Gets a mega, gets new fairy type, gets to be in Diantha's team, gets to be in Pokken, gets Iron Valiant
>>59698389Would the (fully evolved) Top 6 actually make a decent team? Who's 7th to fill Pikachu's slot? Who gets the Mega?
>>59698437To fill Pikachu's slot, pick one of the september mons
>>59698450Bulbapedia also has a page ranking the popularity of each pokemon's articlehttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bulbapedia:Most_and_least_visited_Pok%C3%A9mon_articles_in_2026all 1028 pokemon
>>59697652Gen 3 pokemon at all. It's the true meaning of that musical decade where you remember the good songs and forget all the bad ones. Many are "overpowered" in different ways.Somewhat annoying
>>59698226That's a valid point. However FRLG as a retelling of RBY has Leaf as the other gender option, and she doesn't get the same praise as (FRLG) Red does, when she technically does the same thing >>59698060 RBY Red is a completely different incarnation and story (picrel)Aside from that, Red stopping a crime syndicate all by his own is impressive, but less important for humanity as a whole than preventing the entire world from being wiped out, be it with help from others. Idk, a group of kids stopping a maniac from nuking the world or a kid and the local champion preventing the entire universe to be erased seems more important to talk about than a kid taking out a local crime syndicate.>>59697683You know it's BAD when despite her being the first female protag she has the least amount of porn.
>>59698488Forgot picrel. Also not to mention Red has been canonically defeated by several protags, going by those games' progress, which also doesn't get brought up.
>>59697683>Johto penalty, its one of the least shilled regions >Kris is the only female who was replaced in her region's remake >Johto (like KANTOOOOOO) is one of the only regions where the male choice is more popular than the female choice(s), partly because the female choice only started from C onward while GS didn't have one, and partly because the two female choices cannibalize each other, so the rare scraps Johto gets goes to Ethan/Gold
>>59698455What do you think of this popularity list?
>>59698389>>59698520There's no way that coal cart thing from galar isn't bottom 10, it's an atrocious deisgn.
>>59697883>It just Kanto nostalgia pandering in full display.Yes, that's what I said. The reasons are meta. Why are you repeating what I said?
>>59698488>However FRLG as a retelling of RBY has Leaf as the other gender option, and she doesn't get the same praise as (FRLG) Red does, when she technically does the same thingLeaf is practically never acknowledged as the protagonist in anything. Both Mastersex and Pokopia just said she did the stuff in the Sevii Islands while Red was the one doing the main Kanto stuff much like how neither Kris or Lyra ever gets portrayed as the protagonist over Ethan. There can't be two trainers who single-handedly took down Team Rocket unless they had gone with them being from different worlds like they did with SV instead of pretending there was always a third kid from Pallet Town in FRLG.>>59698489If we're going just with Mastersex which is where most of the Red glazing happens then him, the SM protagonists and the SV protagonists are the only ones who became champions. Everyone else either lost to the reigning champion or were pulled to Pasio before they completed their journey. So the versions of the protagonists on Pasio either lost to Red when they battled him or never battled him in the first place, but regardless they're portrayed as much weaker than him. Pic related is from the Arc Leon event where after having a close battle with Leon, Red beats Ethan, Rosa and Elio 1v3.
>>59698047>GeetaHuh? I have rarely seen any Glaze for this character.
>all the ashfags saying redhe isnt nearly as recognizable as mario, link or sonic despite pokemon outselling thoseyou just live in a bubble
I don't mind Cynthia glaze because her popularity was organic and slowly and naturally built through the years.If anything she doesn't get glazed enough. She should be Lyn and Camilla FE-tier spammed cameo'ing in every game and having the most alts in mastersex by far and wide and stuff like that but she just gets normal popularity treatment. Honestly feels like someone at GF is pissed at how popular she is if anything with how relatively little she's used and brought-up while other characters keep being spammed 24/7.
>>59698435It's the ultimate girlmon
>>59698132I'm sad that he and Gio have never been allowed to properly reconcile, but then again I'm also just a sucker for broken families trying to piece themselves together again. Sadly, it seems GF would rather Gio keep doing his mustache twirling evil thing forever, so it's probably never going to happen. I think it would have been nice to see Silver receive support from his (only?) family, while simultaneously pushing Gio to do better and become the strong trainer he thought his dad was. I think they'd make a pretty cool team, desu.
>>59698053>anybodySilver. I hate how they revealed he's Giovani's son then did nothing with it. He should have reappeared at least once outside of GSC/HGSS>pokemonmy boy Chesnaught>>59698338BASED
>>59698731>Red isn't getting glazedI can tell that this man knows nothing about Pokémon Masters.
>>59697683>first female protag>fucking retconned herthey should have made her a fleshed out NPC during the Lyra replacement
>>59698751Silver really does feel like the red headed step child of the franchise with how neglect he is despite his impact on the lore.
>>59698770Abandoned by Giovanni, abandoned by GameFreak. He just can't catch a break...
>>59698755Ah, yes, the cornerstone of the pokemon franchise, pokemon masters.
>>59698741She's no doubt popular organically, but she still got way more shilled during gen 4 than any previous champion. Just look at how the anime treated her compared to Lance and Steven who both appeared in one episode each during their seasons while Cynthia was recurring and got battles where she got to stomp the Elite 4 trainers. >If anything she doesn't get glazed enough. She should be Lyn and Camilla FE-tier spammed cameo'ing in every game and having the most alts in mastersex by far and wide and stuff like that but she just gets normal popularity treatment.Honestly feels like someone at GF is pissed at how popular she is if anything with how relatively little she's used and brought-up while other characters keep being spammed 24/7.What characters other than Red, Blue, and Oak have gotten as many cameos as Cynthia? I feel like spamming her more runs the risk of her losing her appeal the same way Red lost his.
>>59698811>Honestly feels like someone at GF is pissed at how popular she iswhy do schizophrenics always have to add a malicious conspiracy to explain something benign?
>>59698795Anon, why do you think people are saying Pokémon glazed the fuck out of Red? In that game, literally everyone goes on and on about how powerful he is and everyone else doesn't stand a chance. He's so strong that Leon, who everyone thought was unbeatable, had to get help from Arceus (literal game plot) just to beat him. Red is the most glazed character in the franchise.
>>59698811>I feel like spamming her more runs the risk of her losing her appeal the same way Red lost his.The fact of the matter is that people actually fucking love that sorta stuff. They love to clap at it.The Red 96 pandering on Mastersex was so popular it actually revitalized the game.You really think Cynthia wouldn't be loved even more if she got a cameo on every game, which is honestly even not hard to stretch a reason for considering she's a history nerd, having her be there for one or two legendary sub-plot as a guide or companion writes itself, and then the obligatory meme high difficulty fight?I mean, people loved it with Volo.
>>59698828Charizard used to not draw seething at every mention or cameo from TPC until SwSh truly broke the camels back. But I guess your point still stands since Charizard hasn't really waned in popularity, and has only really gotten more vocal haters which I guess would be the worst that could happen to Cynthia if they went overboard. >The Red 96 pandering on Mastersex was so popular it actually revitalized the game.People were still sick of Red alts for anniversaries like tera dragon Red. 96 worked because it had actual effort put into it that celebrated 30th year anniversary.
Genuine question, is there a difference between shilling and glazing?>>59698120When they brought back trainer's mons in the TCG his archetype is like, the most playable if not the only outright good one.I don't know how good of a litmus the TCG is for this kinda thing though. For mons it seems to be driven by whatever the new hotness in the games is
>>59698795This but unironically. See you at 10th anni.
>>59698886>Genuine question, is there a difference between shilling and glazing?Yes. Shilling is an attempt to make you like someone or something by hyping it up and make you think it's good. Look at Roy from the new anime in Pokémon Horizons. He was never in the top 10. So, when the anime had a timeskip, he was given a shiny Lucario that can mega evolve and became the new leader of the group after bringing everyone back together. That's shilling. Glazing is over praising someone and endorsing them to the point, people see it as milking. As we already talk about it, Red is glaze hell and back. In Masters, everyone can't shut up about how powerful he is and how he's so good that even trainers like Leon who's once the top dog had to get a power-up from Arceus to beat him. That's glazing.
>>59698886>>59699027Forgot to mention it, shilling is mainly done for newer or less popular things while glazing is mainly done on already super popular things.
>>59697652>>59699038as thread OP, i don't mind if we talk about both shilling and glazing so we have more stuff to talk about>>59698096>>59698102There was Penny in Scarlet and Violet with an Eeveelution team. But i feel like at one point a trainer with an entire Eeveelution team felt inevitable, so I didn't mind muchThat cute Eevee bag looks like it was designed to become merch though lol
Cynthia. Even in this thread, people are glazing her while admitting she is the most glazed character ever. No hostility towards her whatsoever compared to the other characters.
>>59699506I feel like Gamefreak has struck a good balance with how glazed and shilled Cynthia is. She appears enough to make fans happy, but at the same time, she doesn't have hundreds of characters constantly calling her the greatest thing of all time in game and I don't feel like she overstays her welcome
>>59698435Gardevoir didn't get any shilling during gen 3, they didn't know how popular it would become, so for gen 6 they treated it as a major monGardevoir is basically a cross-gen pokemon
>>59699467One guy in the unova anime won the league with a full team but I was more disgusted by Lana's eevee
>>59698657>Everyone else either lost to the reigning champion or were pulled to Pasio before they completed their journey.It's just plot convenience then. Cherry picking the cast so prime-time Red comes out at the top every time.
>>59698053I was gonna say Whitney but someone else got dibs on that so i'm gonna say Klara instead.
>>59699549>Gardevoir didn't get any shilling during gen 3I would say it got a pretty memorable introduction in the form of wally.
>>59699677>wallyI liked seeing him return for Sun and Moon's battle tree probably because they could just reuse the ORAS model
>>59698824People have been saying that long before masters was announced, kid.
>>59699654That was part of a big shill campaign leading up to Sylveon's reveal, so it wasn't just out-of-nowhere shilling for no reason.
>>59699891Sylveon was in BW anime?
>>59699516That's the appeal of Cynthia.She's a nice lady who actually turns out to be strong as fuck but who's actually just a fucking nerd. She's simple an well balanced enough and her actions speak for herself. You don't have anyone or anything telling (you) that you must love her.
lol iono has a whole merch section in her articlehttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Iono#Merchandise
>>59700508It's honestly embarrassing how painfully on your face and obvious the carefully manufactured in a lab to make them as popular as possible some characters are nowadays.The worst part is that GF is unable to ever back down. If who they decide you must love doesn't become the giga hit then they just double down on forcing them down your throat while the characters who become real hits naturally and organically are ignored.
>>59700404>She's simple an well balanced enough and her actions speak for herself. Her team certainly does. The fact that almost all of her Pokemon are rare and hard to find says more about her as a person and a trainer than any amount of "Damn, she's a really good trainer" ever would.
>>59700527>It's honestly embarrassing how painfully on your face and obvious the carefully manufactured in a lab to make them as popular as possible some characters are nowadays.I can't really think of characters from gen 4 and earlier that are like that. So the earliest example is probably Iris. A nothing character if you play Black and a pretty forgettable gym leader in White yet she gets to be the female lead in the anime over Hilda and becomes hated by everyone. Then despite this she becomes champion in the sequel and the anime did the same during gen 8.Korrina is another one that's a bit baffling when you think about it considering no one seems to care about her. >gets another battle that's a 1v1 with the most shilled non gen 1 Pokemon>becomes a companion in the anime for multiple episodes and even getting an arc>returns for a battle with Ash in gen 8 and then another time where she's now best friends with Bea>Is one of the five XY characters that make a return in ZA
>>59698886shilling is when you get paid, glazing is when you do it for free
from https://x.com/hibisilver/status/2117255204978532550>Silver has so much potential thats never used. Giovanni, Mewtwo, team rocket, the dragon den, the fact his misery was collateral damage from red’s achievements, the fact blue cleaned up his father’s mess, his involvement with ho-oh and how that affects Morty. Lance’s mentorship…I'm not even a Silver fan and I find it embarrassing how underutilised he is
>>59700554>The fact that almost all of her Pokemon are rare and hard to find says more about her as a person and a trainer than any amount of "Damn, she's a really good trainer" ever would.I like that about Red in that he never switches his team and even uses a regular Pikachu in high stakes battles and tournaments because he really loves his Pokemon and battling with his bros. It's also a nice contrast to Blue who has maybe the most Pokemon out of any champion character and highlights their different approach to Pokemon.
>>59700587blue probably reads smogon-like stuff. maybe even writes it as well
https://sexypedia.miraheze.org/wiki/Rika>Rika has the distinction of being the first woman to be ranked #1 on the Yumejoshi in 2022 (a poll to find the most popular fictional character crush amongst Japanese women), and even beat out several popular characters such as Makima and fellow sexy-Poké-man Volo. In addition, she has also managed to be ranked #1 in the exact same poll a year later in 2023. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rika_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29#ReceptionRika's design has received praise for being attractive. Nintendo Dream staff conducted a poll of readers' favorite characters in Pokémon Scarlet and Violet, stating that common responses to the poll included surprise over her being a woman and how cool they found her. They also identified her contrasting manners of speech and personalities as strong qualities of the character.[20] In a survey by the website Numan asking who respondents would give chocolate to on Valentine's Day, Rika was among the top results.[21] Den Fami Nico Gamer staff praised her design, calling it the "best in the world" and praising her Poké Ball throw animation in particular. They also expressed appreciation that so much fanart of her depicted her with Clodsire.[22] Magmix writer Tunakan felt that Rika was a handsome character due to her long legs, long green hair, and outfit, stating that she felt similarly to a male role in a Takarazuka Revue performance. Tunakun noted that Rika has attracted a large female fanbase, attributing this to her friendliness, Kansai dialect, and personality shift in battles.[13] Inside Games writer Hibiki also considered her a handsome character, stating that many Japanese female content creators have shown attraction to Rika and that some players have commented that their "sexual preferences have been destroyed."[23] Do you think we'll be seeing more Rika in the future since she seems popular?
>>59700579Would be cool for him to make a major appearance but since Legends Johto was cancelled I kind of doubt it
>>59700587>>59700590Agree. Though I think the whole "You don't care about your pokemon" thing in gen 1 was a bit overdone based on what we saw. The fact he was actually willing to change up and remove Pokemon from his team was always pretty revealing. Like, the whole "You killed his raticate" meme always amused me when the whole point is that he probably dropped a obvious early game crutch.Then again, he stuck with his Pidgeot until the bitter end.
>>59700608>Do you think we'll be seeing more Rika in the future since she seems popular?Possibly? Pokemon doesn't really do recurring characters anymore outside of legend games for the most part. And I don't see Legends Paldea happening any time soon.
>>59700612>Like, the whole "You killed his raticate" meme always amused me when the whole point is that he probably dropped a obvious early game crutch.Considering he caught 40 Pokemon by the time you meet him at the SS Anne then he should have been swapping his team out more. If LGPE had been a proper remake then I would've loved to see his team constantly change aside from his starter every time you meet him.
>>59700554And it makes sense for a history nerd that's so well traveled to end up getting such rare Pokemon and becoming so strong along the way. You don't get to travel through dangerous ruins full of threatening Pokemon and stuff by being a weakling. I always found it super funny how her becoming a Champion was a side-effect of her primary interests and goals.Same with Steven too, all through the power of rock autism. It's simple but very endearing.
>>59700625To be sure. Kind of surprised no romhack ever did that far as I'm aware.
>>59700608Doubt it because Rika's a prime example of this >>59700527Someone whose popularity caught them with their pants down and instead of capitalizing they decided that the people who liked Rika were "wrong" for liking her best and most.
>>59700632Steven is another good example of a character whose team is very revealing without it needing to be said outright. In general I think Pokemon was often pretty good at getting characterization across through team composition.
>>59700642Can you really said that when they were pushing another character, Iono?
>>59700727What? That's my point.Iono is the Gen 8 approved popularity™ character.
>>59700740Iono is Gen 9.
>>59697681>t. Ashfag
>>59698060>>59698315Chances of Leaf showing up in WInds and Waves if Red and Blue do too, since it's an anniversary game?
>>59698731I think Red deserves more recognition considering that most people either don't know/forget about him, or confuse him with trAsh when it comes to the franchise's original "poster boy" Trainer.
>>59698731>he isnt nearly as recognizable as mario, link or sonic despite pokemon outselling thoseBut Pikachu is, by a loooong shot, comically no COSMICALLY so.It doesn't stop Red to be shilled through the roof anyway.
Cure Black and Cure White are the first two precure, and gets glazed sometimes due to that, but at least it's not to the extent Red gets glazed
As a Blue fan, I like that he's DENA's favourite boy for the mobile games, but at the same time, I think maybe Lance should've gotten the Mega Dragonite for masters instead of him
>>59702131Across all the mainline and spinoffs he has to have been in more games than any other human character (RBGY, GSC, Stadium 1 and 2, FRLG, Colosseum and GoD, Smash Brawl, HGSS, BW2, SMUSUM, Smash Ultimate, LGPE, Mastersex). Then he's also been in the most manga and anime adaptations of all the protagonists (even not counting Ash/Satoshi). If people forget about him despite that then it's a problem of how forgettable his inclusions have been since Mt Silver.
>>59702268They haven't let him win against Red though, even for stories where it'd make sense like the Neo Champions storyline since they characterise Blue being good at mentoring, but they made Red win at mentoring trainers to battle against him
>>59702253Famon, we already told you googling the name of a show doesn't mean you know it.>>59702211>But Pikachu is, by a loooong shot, comically no COSMICALLY so.Yes, but Pikachu is not Red. Otherwise you'd like Red for showing up in your favorite anime.
>>59702268> I think maybe Lance should've gotten the Mega Dragonite for masters instead of him100%. Lance is the Dragonite guy.
Does Gardevoir get too much shilling?It's in literally every Pokemon game since it's introduction.
I have Gen 4/Cynthia-fatigue desu
>>59697652They should glaze Ethan and Brendan or May a bit more, but too bad they have those horrible dogshit designs from the remakes. so whatever. I still like Red tho
