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>>59708376Always remember never to overpay for slabs and always do due diligence for selling, if anyone here needs any help lmk. I'd be happy to help
>still grading cards
>>59708487He revealed his certs, boys! Slap those fakes up on Fanatics for one gorillion dollars ASAP!
>>59708637Always hated this art.
>Modernslop is still crashing.
Do you guys think this will be a good long term investment? Or do you like the other Chinese exclusive better?
Or do you think Hilda is a better investment?
>>59708625>>59708487Revealing even the bar code can get anon's own certification removed and the card invalidated. >>59708801No one knows if that will stay exclusive or make it's way to Japan and elsewhere. Just because they're saying it is or speculating it will be doesn't mean it's set in stone, we have had cards drift to other regions. That said, china gets the most exclusives so only get it if you like misty or Psyduck or know someone who would be willing to pay a premium to complete a master set for either of those characters. No one can tell you for sure if these cards are a good choice for future returns. And I hope you're buying raw; otherwise you'll have to seek some advice, like the anon in the first post who provides slab pricing.
>>59708801This is a really nice card, but hasnt every chinese card gone down in price over time? 170 isnt much of an investment either honestly.
>>59708823>>59708810Okay do you like it better than Hilda? Any of the cards I get go into my young son’s collection and I might prefer the Hilda because the misty might not be appropriate for him.
>>59708823>>59708810Also i only buy simplified Chinese cards. I have the bubble mew and the black umbreon from prismatic both in ccic mint 10 slabs. It’s crazy how little those cards cost in simplified Chinese
What's up with all the Origin Form Giratinas going crazy lately? Picrel really shot up, the #10 from Platinum is at absurd levels, and I see the Unified Mind one is starting to spike too.
I got this for $130. I think a PSA 10 in English is like 5 grand.
>>59708883
>>59708868>Okay do you like it better than Hilda? Any of the cards I get go into my young son’s collection and I might prefer the Hilda because the misty might not be appropriate for him.It doesn't matter if I like misty more than Hilda, my opinion and very existence doesn't matter regarding future price fluctuations or your son's favorite characters. I would be keen on getting cheap cards just because of responsibilities. Maybe because I'm a cheapskate, but shelling out $100+ for a single raw card is simply bonkers to me despite knowing it's the new normal in our hobby. >>59708875Usually the answer is either pumping scheme, Coinbase or GameStop acquiring a certain buyout for a card, or some collector wants it. Whatever it is, market moves whenever the prices move because people want to cash in. There isn't a new gen 4 remake or reference elsewhere in the media so it doesn't make any sense beyond those factors
>>59708887I'm not familiar with Coinbase or Gamestop picking specific cards for buyout status, how do they determine that?
>>59708889No one really knows how beyond vibes and choosing popular Pokemon + short term market trends. Recent example is PSA telling you that they have a partner buyout offer that's above market rate for a card you have. The only partner they have is GameStop and if several people report they got the same offer or similar, then it's them trying to buy the supply to fuel their stupid power pack bullshit. And the card in question was a Jungle Holo Dragonite. Coin base is doing this shit too for their stupid crypto platform but you'll never know what card because they use secondary markets and not all vendors or collectors talk to each other. If you see a lot of listings get yanked though that might be an indicator. If Gary's Charizard collection ever gets bought on eBay, then it's almost definitely some company
>>59708868misty is better than hilda yes. I think you should wait a bit before buying because it'll most likely go down>>59708883you buy this on ebay or what?
>>59708925this sounds more like PSA doing whatever they can to pump the secondary market value of cards to upcharge customers "insurance" fees, which I'm fairly certain they're going to lose the lawsuit over even if they get away with the monopoly and lack of transparency ones that are active right now.
Would you say both these cards are original?
>>59708926Yeah i got it on eBay
i dont get why collectors are so anti slabs, imagine having to back to the old days where you were gambling on condition on every single card purchase. like psa is accurate 95% of the time with their condition grading, theres no reason to really distrust them.
>>59709297You could just, you know, look at the card in person before you buy it instead of pay hundreds or thousands of dollars more. Alot of people were using it to verify real vintage cards and even then now fakes have been proven to be in the PSA Vault.It's stupid to anyone not trying to resell. Also lol 95% accurate.
>>59708487>Buy all three for 1,5k>Could trade them for a car now
>>59709297It was already a bad bait post even without the "no reason to distrust" at the end.
>>59709297I'm not spending $80 and 6 months to maybe prove my card is real some of the time mr PSA man
Made out nice at a small local con, nothing huge but I love the Gengar and Mime especially. Also MSRP delta reign ETB but I’m not sure if I’ll open it or see if I can trade it for a different one/pricier singles.
Best time to get a Carmine SIR right now. I got one for $38.
>>59709297If you actually cared about accuracy you'd use BGS or CGC. PSA's only purpose is for flipping and scalping.
These will be $100 raw and $2k+ for PSA 10s in the next 2 years. Screencap this post.
>>59709297>dont get why collectors are so anti slabs, imagine having to back to the old days where you were gambling on condition on every single card purchase. like psa is accurate 95% of the time with their condition grading, theres no reason to really distrust them.There are collectors that only collect slabs of a card, it's not like the entire collector community does it raw. As for the PSA comment, no one likes them; it's as simple as that.
>>59709496Also picked her up because she’s affordable, needed her for this page.
>>59709628Based matsurichad.
Got them for msrp between yesterday and today, I'm happy.Also opened the 'Zard from the mew collection yesterday.
>>59709715Nice anon, I got scalped at the local card store for a upc but I’m only 1/5th the way through. Praying for Lugia and maybe RGB mew since that’s all I really wanted.
>>59708883I can literally tell by eye the centering alone is not a 10. Joke grading.I hate pokeinvesters who grade evreything.
>>597092971. I trust myself more than PSA or anyone else.2. I don't want slabs, I want to hold cards in my hands and I want to look at them.3. Why pay more when you can pay less for a better thing?4. I hate everyone who slabs anything with a passion.
>>59709725I got the UPC at a supermarket today, had to wait in line 3 hours. At one point a guy wanted to cut the line and started making a scene and yelling kek.I already opened Charizard, Gengar SIR and future Mew, I hope to pull another one between Mew SIR, Lugia and Magikarp so I have to spend less for the masterset. Don't even care about the RGB.Wish you luck on your openings, anon.
>>59709297I’ve said this before. Binders are child’s play or women scrapbooking. Most the time these humblefags want to pretend like they are morally superior for not grading cards. Bu the longer you collect cards, the longer it begs the question why are you not actually challenging yourself to grow a better and better collection over time. Which grading slabs is the next echelon of the hobby. Don’t follow humblefags. You will end up mediocre. If people have been collecting for 5, 10, 15, 20+ years and they haven’t found a way to profit. That sounds like a skill issue desu
>>59709942Poor bait, you need to work more on your pasta.
>>59710022>There is a bigger game being played and you refuse to participate.Sooner or later you will realize your stupid scrapbook is meaningless and you wasted your time. World keeps spin in’
Hilda price dropped today but Misty’s Psyduck went up $10.
>>59710070Prices won’t settle for a while, it’s all new and shiny. Hilda definitely going down, and Misty’s Psyduck will probably drop then rise.
>>59709297They grade cards with dicks on them as near mint and doesn't afraid of anything
Pissing off fat old ladies is my hobby. I’m very good at it.
>>59710070if lisias appeal dropped then im sure this one will too. Maybe not psyduck but i doubt it.
>>59710094Hilda seems like a very good price now if you calculate how many boxes you need to rip to get that card….
>>59709942>to profit Yawn
>>597088835K for an English psa10 moonbreon is a ripoff and I seriously hope no one here does this. Remember to let me know if you need any help with pricing on graded English or Japanese slabs
>>59710155Look at how current Chinese exclusives are priced, those have similar hit rates but lesser-hyped cards like Hilda is will drop steadily. Misty’s Psyduck I feel is gonna drop to around 70 as more and more come out of China, then probably blast up to like 180 as the boxes eventually go out of print.
grading is gay but buying slabs of our favorite mons when the market is down is based. especially when we know they're eating a loss on the grading fee. got so many cool and obscure Japanese promos and half deck cards in 9s for like $15 - $35 when the market was dipping and niggas were fearful and trying to recoup...
>>59710501>but buying slabs of our favorite mons when the market is down is based.If you need help getting a good deal and want to know if you're getting a fair price, let me know anon. I'd be happy to help
Thank god I bought the best Southern Islands card when I did. Lowest listed right now is $90 for fucking damaged.
>still buying physical
>>59708945Still asking.Is it normal that white shadow under the wing, for example?
>>59710828fake as hell bruh you got destroyed fr no cap lol lmao
>>59710828The top print layer clearly is just aligned differently. Look at the left side of the wing and the right border on the lower card, that "white shadow" is just the underprint/opaque mask.
>>59709942>>59709297The truth manchildren aren't accepted to hear. Slabs protect your card in a supersonic welded casing, like a presentation to display it anywhere and everywhere - it becomes a decoration.Team slabless are confined to their binders and worry about taking it out of their own possession kek
>>59710988Ccic 10 slabs in simplified Chinese are practically the same price as raw cards. That’s why I buy them when available
>>59708883Yes, but yours is in Chinese so it's worth about $3.50.
>>59710828Do you not have a loupe? WHy are you asking these questions with stupid pictures online? You need to see these things in real life.Get yourself a 60x loupe yesterday to check for black layer on top and rosetta pattern etc.
if anyone cares, here is a useless comparison to U.S Printing to Brazilian Printing.
>>59710303It's a shame that there are a lot of cool FA supporter cards that never made it in EN.
>still no news from my japan post trackingMY CARDSSSSSSSS AAAAA
>>59711183Unfortunately the Nips didn't share their secrets with Burgers, Hues, not even with the Dutch. All TPCi is trash printing and that's why even Thai is better than English
>>59710846Thanks Anon. For some reason I had this doubt.If you check the previous picture, with the cards side by side, I also noticed a misalignment of the Neo Revelation's logo, not sure if it's normal. >>59711122Nope, no loupe. I took a picture with flash and zooming in. The rosetta pattern is visible, not sure what you mean with "black layer".Anyway they both seems original and, as far as I know, it doesn't even exist a fake version of Aerodactyl Awakening Legends.
>>59711452>not sure what you mean with "black layer".Colors are added in layers during printing, black is added last.Get a loupe and learn about cards, don't be like the average poketard.
just been to a card show i only spent like 20 quid on all these as i was trading a bunch of stuff i didnt want>>59708487damn nice although i only really like suicune out of the dog trio, wish i had a gold star>>59708801misty tummy, chinese exclusive seem to all go up youre probably better buying form china using a proxy service though, the card is like half that in china postage will probs be idk 15 dollars https://www.goofish.com/item?spm=a21ybx.search.searchFeedList.2.625841dd8hc1YS&id=1099588008824&categoryId=126860375 https://www.cssbuy.com/https://www.superbuy.com/>>59708875tina sex
got these also which was rape but i wanted to open some stuff i paid 125 gbp for these two
RGB Mew proves that TPC actually encourages scalping
>>59711677Feel like they were thrown in to be the card that only appeals to a certain type of ‘collector’, meaning everything else would be cheap and plentiful.
>>59711183I dont see a difference
>>59711102All modern pokemon cards are going to be WORTHLESS after the stock market bubble pops. I buy pokemon cards for display.
>>59711677The future of Pokemon cards will be like MTG + sports cardsPlayables and other stuff will be common as fuck like MTG while le chase cards will continue to skyrocket like sports cards
>>59711696>>59711863The only reason people buy Pokemon is because other alternative asset investment vehicles have been exhausted and the stock market has outpriced everyone else. Pokemon is built on nostalgia and will outlive us all, if anything there might be a severe contraction in price when people go into scavenger mode to save money but otherwise this shit will keep climbing unless Pokemon Company ceases to exist.
>>59711875Pokemon cards in its current form are the newest POGs, Labubus and sneakersAll the retards, investorchuds and scalpers will leave once they bleed the well dryLike MTG only vintage stuff will remain expensive while everything new will be cheapAs newer generations don't experience the peak of Pokemon TCG the hobby will dry up like during the Gen 3-6 era
>>59711556>>59711559Are you trans?
>>59711882no
>>59711879>All the retards, investorchuds and scalpers will leave once they bleed the well dryKind of you to believe they'll have their funds dry up>Like MTG only vintage stuff will remain expensive while everything new will be cheapMTG has literally been ruined twice by Wotc and Hasbro. No one is going to support it after the boomers and millennials die out >As newer generations don't experience the peak of Pokemon TCG the hobby will dry up like during the Gen 3-6 eraPokemon TCG is primarily fueled by the games. You'll have a shit ton of alphas and zoomers pogging over gen 4 to current gen years from now. Pokemon will outlive us all. That is not an exaggeration.
>>59711882It's typically the people who make the rugs, not the people who buy them.
>>59711879>LabubusLMAOEven Palworld is far bigger than that fad that lasted what? 18 months?Don't ever fucking forget that everything started due to this lillie card right here >>59710303She fucking won wayyyyyy before Logan Paul/Covid and all the scalper niggers took an interest in Pokemon, I would go as far as to argue she is FAR MORE important than Pokemon was to normies because she was the catalyst in Japan when normies never gave a fuck about the actual card game in 2016You have no idea the amount of frustration that the average kid right now has towards NOT being able to afford Pokemon cards, once gen-alpha reach adulthood they are going to buy out the whole market 100 times overPokemon is never going to face the liquidity crisis that vintage MTG is currently facing right now because MTG card hype stops at boomers like Rudy and that's it, not even soillenials give a fuck about magic other than the anti WoC, proxy friendly monstrosity that commander has become
>>59712112than Pokemon GO*
>>59711875Modern pokemon junk wax dude. This shit is all going to be worthless. Thats why I buy the Chinese cards. I get teh exact same art you have for display (better quality because japan printed) for 1/20th the price.
>>59711908Modern pokemon junk wax will be worthless. Buy Chinese and enjoy the art.
>>59710568Really want to get a Magicarp but it looks like I may have missed the boat they're expensive.
>still buying modern
>>59712430Actualy nobody is buying modern cards.Every time there's a Pokemon anniversary and they reprint vintage stuff, they switch the attention to real vintage cards. Slabs are just a fad and it's mostly money laundering, pretty much like NFT's years ago.Once the hype fades away, demand drops and prices crash. I've made my best deals by buying 1–2 years before each Pokeversary.This is the time to sell the vintage cards you consider tradeable.
Lol, I was watching a card on Fanatics Collect with 8 bids go for ~$1450, then with 10 mins to go, it dropped down to 7 bids and nobody bought it after, finalising it at $1000.Opened the live chat to ask about it then they just went afk after sending a generic "sorry about your experience" message.For reference, their FAQ states:>Can I cancel a confirmed bid?>No. Bids are automatically accepted as entered by the bidder, are FINAL, and cannot be canceled. Thus, please use caution when placing your maximum bid.Very interesting
>>59712452>Lol, I was watching a card on Fanatics Collect with 8 bids go for ~$1450, then with 10 mins to go, it dropped down to 7 bids and nobody bought it after, finalising it at $1000.>Opened the live chat to ask about it then they just went afk after sending a generic "sorry about your experience" message.>For reference, their FAQ states:>>Can I cancel a confirmed bid?>>No. Bids are automatically accepted as entered by the bidder, are FINAL, and cannot be canceled. Thus, please use caution when placing your maximum bid.>Very interestingWhat card? I'm now intrigued to see if they got a good deal or ripped themselves off
Got one of those assorted IR/AR bundles on amazon, and with my luck, one was a dupe. Any chance they're fake?
>>59712978Nobody would bother to make a good low value fake IR/AR.The cost doesn't justify the quality needed to make them.
>>59708810BRB invalidating every card i find online
>>59711863>Playables and other stuff will be common as fuck like MTGActual retard.
BumpLetting fellow Pokemon TCG frens know I provide accurate card valuations for PSA slabs, English and Japanese only and in this thread. If anyone needs help if they're intending to get a slab or offload them, let me know. More than happy to help
>>59713974Fuck off nigger faggot trash back to /biz/ with your semen slurping larp
One looks like a fake chinese bootlegOther one is a chinese card
>>59712436I do buy modern cards. Some AR full arts are gorgeous and only cost about 12 bucks each. I have filled two binders with them over the past four years
>>59711863>Playables and other stuff will be common as fuck like MTG while le chase cards will continue to skyrocket like sports cardsIts already been like this for Pokemon way more than it has ever been for MTG, tourist.
>>59713974You dont own any good cards and youre broke.
>>59714011>>59714190I do it for free for other anons because this is a collectors thread for Pokemon cards and I don't want anons getting ripped off. Don't know why you're samefagging or breaking the rules. Cry about it or ignore my posts, you'll be better I promise
Mini pack party at the pub with a friend, 3 for 3 on a Delta Reign blister. Noice.
>>59713541Beautiful, immaculate, cute.
>>59714235Female trainers are really underrated, waifufagging aside. Also I hate how the seel looks cheap. I mean look how Azurill is mogging him
>>59714242I guess the Seel is just a promo, so it’s fine, he has nice holo borders and is a handsome little fellow. I was jazzed for all of these though, even though I don’t remember who Emcee is. I might pick up her sister Emcee card and design a page around them regardless because the art is so nice and the card I pulled is genuinely lovely with loads of texture.Azumarill fucking rules though
>>59714251Why did I call him Azumarill and not Azurill despite staring directly at the card in my hand? I do not know
>finally debt-free>instantly looking at buying cardsEvery. Damn. Time.
>>59714421Hopefully you have some actual grails if you went into debt and not some random set cards.
I have 4 boxes of gem pack 7, 3 boxes of gem pack 6, 4 jumbo boxes of white spark, and 5 boxes of 30th anniversary coming in from China.
They're Chinese so no one cares.
>>59713974How does it feel dealing with scams?
Is flying to Japan over bros? How much should one spend on cards to make it worth it?
Despite being one of Steam's biggest games Palslop failed. couldnt even last 2 sets.
>>59714734Palworld cultivated a performative fanbase, what did you expect lol
Ordered the Classic Game Collection since it just went down in price We'll see if it arrives
>>59714734Did it really ail or are you being hyperbolic? How did it fail if so?
>>59714585Chinese cards are the best ones nigga
That schizo Troon has been attacking Chinese cards nonstop for over a year now without fail every single thread
>>59710303Holy shit are those yours?
>>59714609I wanna see a house of cards built out of these.
Chang won
>>59712112>>59714734>>59714791Isn't there a Palworld TCG that was released months ago? What happened to that? Only thing I remember is scalpers being scalpers
>>59715074Overall status I mean.
Prism vending machine sticker, it will go on the front page to replace the pidgeotto playing card I have, as I have 2 playing cards now.
Low key regretting buying the UPC, only pulled Sylveon and Greninja SIRs and Jigglypuff x2, Dark Tyranitar, Genesect and Gengar from the classic collection, so far, I still have 7 packs left, hope for one more pity classic collection or SIR.If it wasn't for the Gengar it would have been a bloodbath. Thankfully I didn't pay market price for it.
haha get fucked krauts
>>59714734No one cares about card games that aren't the big 3, and that's only because Magic and YGO have a strong playerbase, otherwise Pokemon would have the monopoly over collectibles (no one acually plays pokemon, come on).Even One Piece is big only because of scalpers, and it's declining rapidly. Lorcana struggles despite having Disney behind it. Naruto is DoA. Palword is a better game than any Pokemon past the 3DS era, but this does not mean that Palworld TCG is good, the art looks generic as fuck.
>>59715268What did you expect? You pulled 2 SIRs and 2 good classics and you still have almost 1/3rd to open.
>>59715298I wanted to pull one more of the top 4 cards so doing a master set would be cheaper. I don't get why out of all the cards from Gym Challenge they went with Jigglypuff kek. I had already pulled the Greninja too. Thankfully at least I already pulled a zard from a Mew collection.Realistically there's nothing more to pull in the last 7 packs. If I get lucky there's one more classic and if I get extremely lucky there's one more SIR, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
>>59715268UPCs usually have bad rates, you're only buying it for the promo cardsAll the best hits are on tins and ETBsToo bad my shithole has extremely low allocation and can't even get normal products without fighting in line with scalpers (brown and poor)
>>59714837Way more supply than actual demand. the first set made 4.4 million booster packs. it did in fact sell out. the 2nd set made 6 million boosters. people showed up to buy the first set, but they didn't come back for the 2nd one. so its being sold at a loss on TCGplayer. they bit off more than they could chew and everyone that supported the first set, didn't come back to support the 2nd. people are not playing the actual card game, and there isn't a good secondary market for collecting. stagnation, too much supply, not enough people actually dedicated to the cause. just wanted to "get in" while they could. for reference, when MTG first released. the Alpha + Beta print was 280k booster packs. people need to continually contribute to a brand for it to survive. imagine. Palworld isn't like crack like Pokémon. just because its the 2nd biggest game on steam, doesn't equate to people buying, trading, collecting the card game.
>>59715578Was this written by a bot? I had no problem with the rates, it's the pulls themselves (x2 Jigglypuff kek).
>ship card from asia>live on the west coast>card updates to being in NJwhat the FUCK
>>59714734Wanted to buy some booster displays and maybe get a PSA 10 gun for a giggle but never saw a single package in stores before scalpers nabbed everything
>>59715658Thank you for the free cards loser LMAO
>>59715578ETBs have the worst hit rates of all products
Just a quick reminder that you don't have to sell these. You can keep them in your collection for years.
>>59715745While I agree with the sentiment, that ring binder would make me sweat
>>59715745I'd sell that anime ass 'zard in a heartbeat
>>59715752Why? It's just my Charizards.
>>59715745Back in the early 00s Shining Charizard was stupidly expensive already while regular Charizard was not.
>>59715763I remember when I got him. My grandfather got me McDonald's and stopped by Oz (I think that was the name of the store) and bought a pack.He gave them to me during lunch when I was just starting Middle School. I remember opening it in the hallway and freaking out that I finally had my own Charizard that I, myself, had opened. Also saw there was a printing error on the right side and was so happy because it was totally my own.
>>59715763It's a shame that all the Shining and Gold Star cards don't really look very good art-wise. Most shiny cards are kinda trash, ngl
I bought an amazing looking fake psa slab from ali for 30 euro. Had the chink copy the label of a gem 10 Munch Psyduck. The way it catches the light is exactly right and the blue ink used is indistinguishable from the og (to my eyes anyway). I also have a legit Psyduck in excellent condition (super-solid 7). I am gonna go for it and get back to you in some future threads.
>>59715895Let me know when they start producing convincing vintage. I want to proxy shit for my binder so I never have to risk having my valuable cards nicked
>>59715895Fancy posting some comparisons? Maybe take some video of the holo label? Then you can slap it up on Fanatics, obviously.
>>59715745No selling, no grading, just hoarding and showing off occasionally as our childhood selves would have wanted.
So, be greedy when others are fearful or is actually over?https://www.instagram.com/reels/DfifDIINgEe/
>>59715965Now is the time to wait. It will be glorious as everyone undercuts eachother. Stack cash, keep tabs on the cards you want and pick them up for an absolutely glorious price in near future. Long term all vintage will go up.
>>59715965I have a good amount of capital to work with since I sold a fuck ton since september. There are some gems hidden here and there, but for the most part just wait it out. Most people are out of money(for real this time).
>still buying unsigned
>>59715745based but PLEASE switch to a D-ring or ringless zipper binder
>>59715920Their fake cards are still shit, especially the vintage ones, so no luck there. Although it is possible to scam casuals with some of the modern stuff. The texture work on the Evolving Skies eeveelutions was top-notch last time I checked. The acrid smell is still a dead giveaway but if you put the card in a legit-looking case then some slabfag will take it off your hands no questions asked I'd imagine.>>59715941Wont be posting any images of the final product till after I have managed to unload it. Probably not even then desu out of fear of the buyer finding out. I think I may have messed up ordering a gem 10, a 9 would have been easier to get rid of.
>>59714878No one cares, Chang.
>>59715992Signlets, what's our cope...
>>59715842The neo shining cards all look pretty decent. I don’t really like the illustrator behind all the gold stars, though.
What's the best sleeve for letting holos shine through? I have some Pokemon Center ones but they're really dull. I used Dragon Shield for Yu-Gi-Oh in the past and they looked good, is that the way to go?
>>59716965Agreed. Fukuda is trash
I just want my package......
>>59717218Customs still got it?
>>59717228Yes.... it's been 13 years......
>>59716965Hey anon, if you need help finding the fair market price of a graded PSA card (in case you want to sell one or buy another), let me know. I do custom analytics for graded PSA Pokemon cards and give valuations out for free from time to time on here and elsewhere. More accurate than every other app and site that uses garbage data based on hallucinations and miscalculations. Would be more than happy to help
