What does /vr/ think of repro cartridges/labels? Is it a based way to make new or like new rare games or is it a shitty practice used by scum bag sellers to dupe people that fucks up the prices of rare games that people have collected?
I don't care so long as they are honest in some way about what they are, at least enough that they can be checked by someone in the know like a proof mark. The "collectors market" is a thing that values authenticity like antiques but some people just want the thing and don't care that it wasn't actually made in 1993. If they want to pay $15-30 for something pretty much identical to the real thing instead of $150-300 then go for it.
>>12584742I don't know where the term "repro" came from. I call them bootlegs, and anyone who knowingly buys them is retarded.
>>12584763That's where I am at pretty much. If you're going to have them that's cool, but put some kind of small watermark or mark somewhere to denote that it's a repro label or whole cart. I know there are ways to check for repro carts like opening it up and looking at the board but with labels it can be even trickier.
/vr/ - Retro Game E-Celebs
>>12584765Repro is short for Reproduction. Bootleg is usually used for something currently in production.
>>12584769It's a thread about repros carts
>>12584742I think repro cartridges and labels are a great way to collect when prices are so high for certain games. Collectors can do whatever they want with their collection. Have a damaged label on the cartridge? Easy fix, replace it with a repro label. Does TMNT Hyperstone Heist cost too much to own on eBay? Buy a repro cartridge.Also fuck Pat The NES Cuck.
Repro Cartridges are fake and gay
>>12584784The issue is those repros making it back into the market whether it's intentional or not, you may have just wanted a flawless copy of said game for your collection but what happens if you decide to sell everything down the line and forget you did it? Or you die and your collection is donated or sold off? It can potentially rip people off even if you didn't intend it to. Or what if you sell it and do disclose it's got a repro label and the next guy isn't so noble? It's a very slippery slope.
>>12584797You wanted to play the game, right?
>>12584798One does not buy rare and expensive games simply to play them, if that were the case they'd just emulate them. Not saying people don't or aren't going to play them but the vast majority are buying it for their collection.
>>12584797If I were to sell it(unlikely), I'd make sure to note what is a repro label or repro cartridge, although two repro cartridges will be very obvious from my collection since they were never released officially. But as far as "dying" is concerned, it won't be my problem now, would it? Plus it shouldn't matter. There are ways to tell if you have a cartridge with a repro label. Repro cartridges will be easy to spot when you either open it or stumble upon the unreleased game in a repro cartridge.
>>12584742>a based wayNobody talks like that, lardy.
>>12584793Almost all of them are just gluetopped FLASH ROMS meant for 512mb/1GB storage.
>>12584803>One does not buy rare and expensive games simply to play themI'm aware. I also don't care. That is the bottom scum of retro gaming and takes games from people who want to play them. >Oh no, the fakes devalue the real onesIf your collecting is about money, take it to /biz/.
>>12584809That's why I didn't speak it, I wrote it. Also there are 10,995 for "based way" on /vr/ alone on desuarchive.
>>12584804If it's just a new label it's much harder to tell. Also repros of unreleased games like prototypes are fine, those aren't the issue here.
>>12584827Oh well...someone got a new label for a cartridge that would have obviously never been bought when it was damaged, since a damaged label doesn't look good in a collection. If the new label looks like the real thing, excellent! It will look better than my worn-out damaged label on a cartridge.
>>12584835It's not original and worth significantly less with a repro label. If that's not disclosed then someone could be ripped off of hundreds or even thousands depending on the game.
>>12584742Why not just get a flash cart? Its like a repro but I have whatever I want on it including homebrew. If I want to look at the box art I just use the internet. Beats having to dedicate an entire bookshelf to storing a bunch of carts and boxes that arent even original prints. I get it if its some unreleased prototype or it's a game you really love but copies are crazy expensive. But I generally dont understand repros.
>>12584742When you make a high quality repro and hold it in your hands you'll instantly realize just how silly collecting really is. A high quality repro activates the same dopamine response of "new thing". Then you'll also rationalize that you don't need to pay for the expensive collectible because you have the repro right next to you to always quell that urge by picking it up and turning it over in your hands.
>>12584845Collectors don't want an ever drive. They want the real thing.
>>12584849Then pay up and do due diligence.It's not like repros make the real ones disappear.
>>12584850Or maybe just stop making repros that attempt or are indistinguishable from the real thing without a fucking laboratory carbon dating the thing.
>>12584854Am I making repros? No.I have some of my childhood games, mostly SNES, and I emulate the rest.Leave buying games for those who want to play the real thing, collectors largely exist to exploit those who want to play the real thing. That is not very retro gaming, my dude.
>>12584862It was figurative, I didn't mean you specifically were. I was simply stating that is the optimal scenario, not just saying "oh well" as the market gets flooded with fakes
>>12584864I totally get your point, I just think collecting is idiotic.Collectors drove up the prices to where those who wanted to play on original hardware couldn't afford them. So repros were made for this purpose.
>>12584870They weren't only made for that purpose, they were and are also made specifically to rip people off.
>>12584840If someone's dumb enough to pay that much for an old game, they deserve to be ripped off.
>>12584876You scum bag. People deserve to be able to collect without being bamboozled
>>12584803Thats stupid. Its a game. You buy it to play it.
>>12584896That's not the only reason you buy it though for collectors.
Repro's are a solution in search of a problem to solve.Collectors don't want fake carts, any more than car collectors want kit cars. They want the originals. They have no use for these fake carts.People who just want to play the fucking games will emulate or use a flash cart. They aren't going to pay $20 a pop for individual games because that's fucking retarded when a flash cart will handle nearly the entire library for $100-$200 and emulation is free.Which leaves only one last group who would have any interest in all in fake carts. Fags who want to show off to their friends how 'retro' they are and know full well their friends are too retarded to tell the difference, and don't care their 'collection' is a random hodgepodge of real carts, fake carts, and imports they bought for cheap because "I'm not paying $50 for Super Metroid!" but still wanted the lone cart and refuse to buy flash carts because reasons.I remember some fag used to defend them by claiming no normie would be interested in playing retro video games off a flash cart, and you NEEDED to have an individual cartridge for a game to avoid scaring the normies off. Wonder if he's still around spewing bullshit.
>>12584936>Which leaves only one last group who would have any interest in all in fake carts. Fags who want to show off to their friends how 'retro' they areSo... Collectors. Got it.
>>12584936They exist solely to rip people off. Fake antiques are rampant in that market as well. Anyone saying otherwise is retarded.
>>12584943that was ridiculous but not surprising this place is run by fags. I hope they enjoy moderating this dead board now
>>12584895Paying hundreds, if not thousands of dollars for an old game that used to cost way less before YouTubers made it popular to collect these things, absolutely proves you deserve to be ripped off. I'm glad I bought the games I wanted most before these inflated prices came along. Ebay prices are getting way too ridiculous and until things settle down, you're not gonna get any sympathy from me about getting ripped off. See I collect for the games, not whether or not it's 100% original for things like replaceable sticker labels. I also don't mind having a repro-cartridge for a game I can no longer buy at an affordable price.>>12584896Agreed. I bought the games and I play them through emulation(Redream, Dolphin, Duckstation, etc), as well as on original hardware(via HDMI converters, ODE's, and flashcarts). So that way I don't have to wear out my discs nor risk damaging my cartridges. >>12584936I don't collect "fake carts" to show off to friends. I do it as a middle finger to the scammers selling it for obscene prices on eBay. Only difference is that my "fake carts" are obvious(translucent green cartridge and custom cover art for my copy of TMNT Hyperstone Heist on the Sega Genesis). Should it be this way? No. I want all the original TMNT games. The problem is eBay resellers & high prices.No different than me paying $30 on Amazon for my copy of Mate.Feed.Kill.Repeat that looks close to the real legit copy of the album(CD pressed and green colored CD cover), rather than the CD-R version that pops up on eBay with a black and white CD cover.
>>12584996>Mate.Feed.Kill.RepeatThe original vocalist is fucking awful. Paying a penny for that record is being ripped off.
The 2010s retro gaming scene was and is full of collector scum who rushed to buy whatever Metal Boomer told them to. They ruined collecting.
>>12585023Nah. The album was great and the original vocalist was meant to sound rough, not all metal bands need to be melodic.
>>12585030I like rough, I'm a big black metal fan. But he sucks.
People can do whatever, but I'd rather have a tattered original label than a repro label.
>>12585068This. And if people do do it and it's a repro label then it needs to have something showing that. Just a little watermark or symbol in the corner, doesn't have to deface the art. But people should be informed for sure.
>>12584742They're based but flash carts are even more so. Anything you can do to starve the collector's market of cash is a good thing and should be supported by anyone who actually cares about the games.
>>12585074I buy games at 50-60% of value and sell them back at around 80% 8^)
>>12585068I love the tattered label copies that I can then replace with a repro label. Makes it cheaper to afford the game, rather than paying full price for an undamaged one.
>>12584742the janitor deleted Pat's smug face
>>12585115Back when I was buying ps1 games I would always look for cheap cracked shell ones and then swap out the broken pieces. I think if I had a way to get actually good quality labels printed I would do this
>>12586285Yeah, the CD jewel cases were always easy to replace for PS1/Dreamcast games. Can't say the same for Saturn cases.
>>12586271How about deleting some frog OPs?
>>12587878How about no?
>>12584845repros are a better choice for gb/gba atleast, since they are easily reflashable and piss cheap
