Do you think that retro videogame collectors are the future wealthy elite of society? Will chinese billionaires be making huge offers? Museums getting in bidding wars? I wonder if our Nintendo and PS2 and Genesis games will one day be worth actual money and museums will be bidding on them. Sort of like what happened to Magic the Gathering and Pokemon cards. Most the people who held those 90s cards are now worth millions of dollars. Can the same happen to us?
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>>12591309Wealthy? No. Car collectors with a dozen or more acres of mega garages and turning it into a living museum is wealthy. Collecting lakeside mansions is very wealthy. Buying out IPs for hobby projects and carrying it out is wealthy, thanks Saudis. Philanthropically paying for a few wings of medical research center or hospital is pretty wealthy.Collecting a few hundred or a few thousand games is like having 5 or 6 cars and leaving them in the garage. Or buying a luxury RV and paying for it to sit in a garage for 11 months a year. This is a very common middle class thing.Maybe if you own a Vegas Pinball Hall of Fame or Galloping Ghost tier collection e.g. living museum, then you might be a bit wealthy.
It's all just shit. Having it buys some nerd cred, but no one outside of that really cares, and most normal people probably think it's an embarrassing waste of time, as both a hobby and as a loss of productivity. Considering you don't really become rich unless you work your ass off, too, so who has time for video games?
The value of all collectibles comes and goes. Eventually the generations who are interested in collecting them die off and they become irrelevant. Even things with inherent value like jewelry. My uncle dealt in antiques and by the end of his business he was mostly just offloading gold for scrap because no one was interested in buying the specific era of historical jewelry he had collected.
>>12591309No, you absolute fucking retard.It's all aging plastic and circuits and it's going to go right in the fucking trash in 100 years. Especially since corporations could just band together and reprint this shit to make their own buck out of the retro games market.God you collector fags are such fucking narcisstic retards huffing from a pipe jammed up your own ass.
>>12591462You can always tell who is a seething, bitter emulator-fag. Deep down you know that what you are doing is not real retro.
>>12591468And a "Yikes" to you, too.
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>>12591462They think their hobby is going to moon like Bitcoin. I have my doubts that there any mass produced home console cartridge that will be worth >$50,000, adjusted for inflation. This why the numbers are high but not nonapproachable to the middle class. Liquidity is a factor in determining value of a collectable. The market is quite vibrant and very much targeted at the middle classes. Is a wealthy person going to peck at scraps on eBay? Nope, they will buy out something that is worth millions. What is worth millions, tens of thousands of videogames, rate items and memorabilia in new or near new condition, correct?
>>12591316/threadfippy bippy
Anybody use AI to write unhinged shitposts? I'm serious. I want to contribute more garbage to these horrible threads but it's just incredibly tiresome.
How valuable are the dropa stones or other ancient computers? How do you plan to enjoy your videogame wealth when you are long dead?
>>12591309My collection is for myself. I don't really care about its perceived "value" It's just the games I like or were meaningful to me as a child. Don't really care to collect games I never played or even heard of just to "have" them.
You can always pick out the genuinely poor, because they tend to uncontrollably seethe at the middle/upper-middle class, while jerking off the upper-upper class.
>>12591309If some guy makes $200k a year why wouldn't they buy Chrono Trigger for $500. They are certainly not going to want your crappy sports or licensed games clogging up their mansion.>>12591353Car that used to collectible you can now get cheap.>>12591506Rich people want nice things only, not scuffed up Mario cartridges. They'll buy a game that was sealed for 40 years just to open and play.
>>12591468>she's this invested in what is at the end of the day disposable, mass-market entertainment products,KWAB.
>>12591468>Deep down you know that what you are doing is not real retroimagine gatekeeping owning plastic this hard, couldn't be me
>>12591468>You can always tell who is a seething, bitter emulator-fagI find it really funny. Having your favorite retro games collection is the comfiest thing, and that it makes people so mad is a strange and hilarious thought.
>>12591309i don't know but having a bunch of ps1 games gives me such a warm fuzzy feeling. the demos, the graphics, all the different genres and titles, it feels like the time when games finally became actual games i guess cos of 3d. i love the 64 too, but damn, those ps1 games... they're so beautiful i could cry.
My collection just gives me anxiety. I constantly fear losing them in a house fire or any damage in general. Also people stealing them from me (brother stole my games before). As well as constant FOMO regarding buying games I want before their prices rise.
>>12592237here's your solution
>>12592237t. emutranny
>>12592246No thanks. It's like collecting photos of pokemon cards instead of owning the actual cards.
>>12592249I know I sound like a falseflagger, but it's true. Especially the collecting FOMO.
>>12592252literally no difference if you're just interested in playing the game, they both do the same thing
>>12592476you should make this comment another 100 times lol i love seeing it in every thread
>>12592237I know how you feel, and it has already happened to me before. My house flooded in 2011 and I lost all my pc big boxes, about half of my games and CE's and all of my consoles at the time. Lost a bunch of other not gaming stuff too. I did save my ps1 and ps2 collection, but thats about it.All i can say is that it sort of cures your OCD, but I still loathe the potential of losing the rest of it.
>>12591506if something like that happens we will start seeing companies officially reprinting their shit like atari is already doing with some of their 2600/7800 games70$ brand new box out of walmart vs 10000$ plastic case owned by an autist, guess which one people are going to choose
>>12591365This. I remember antique furniture was a hot item for a minute, everyone couldn't wait to pay gobs of money for old stuff and tell you how it came from the 1800's or whatever. By 2000, no one gave a shit, and a lot of old people collecting this stuff died off and flooded the market. Turns out the only people who gave a shit about antique furniture were old people with nothing else to do who latched onto antique furniture to have something to do, who thought they were increasing their value by collecting that junk. Now antique furniture is cheaper than new furniture, and it's not uncommon to pick up some 1930's furniture off of craigslist for cheap.Or like how collecting baseball cards was the hot thing back in the 50's and 60's, driven by all the people who grew up in the 20's and 30's who managed to hang onto their cards, and everything outside of the really old pre-50's cards were completely worthless by 1990. You would be surprised how many 50's and 60's kids collected baseball cards and spent big money on them only to discover once they got old their collections were less than $5 total. A lot of kids from that era remember parents and relatives giving them their old baseball card collections, because they went out and got them valued and realized they wasted more on the gas than they would get back selling them. If you ever wondered why parents in the 80's and 90's wouldn't hesitate to throw out the boxes, manuals, etc and seemed like they didn't give a shit about your collection, that's why. They got burned and assumed the same thing would happen to their own kids with collecting stuff.
>>12591365I agree with everything you said but coins seem to be an exception. I believe one day nobody will want to buy or sell pokemon cards because all the generations that want to collect will be dead, just like how comic books it seems nobody really wants them anymore. But coins have been collected for centuries. Maybe even millenia? The hobby of kings
>>12591309Retro video game collections are the same like boomer "fine china." It's all going to get shoveled out once millennials die. They're intrinsically worthless just like grandmas bullshit.
>>12594315This. Still can't bring myself to trash it all though.
>>12594053>using a basement for valuable storageoof
>>12591462except that if they even do it it will be 5x more expensive and the most popular slop will be printed. The rest will be locked digitally or through an impossibly hard to access internet archive
In 50 years what is valuable now will be worthless because speculative investors are treating obscure games like NFT, basing value only on print runs. Long term value comes from nostalgia, not scarcity from obscurity. Look at comic collecting. First appearances of major characters have real value. There are small print run indie comics (lots of them) that are far more rare than spidermans first appearance, or x-men #1 bit they are of course valueless. Being older doesnt matter either as most 40s comics have negligible value compared to 70s issues because they were culturally irrelevant. In retro games it is the opposite. The equivalent of action comics #1 (first superman) would be worthless but pic related would be a grail just because it failed and sold less. In retro game hoarding it is failures and forgotten shit that becomes highly coveted by the speculative investors, despite habing zero actual value as long term collectors, and no merit or legacy as important or influential games. Its just ape NFT tier investing.
>>12591462You'll never have children emutrannyYou will never know the joys of your or your kid turning on a console, putting in the cartridge/disc and playing co-op together
>>12594230The difference with coins is that you are really only talking about the very finest examples that are worth significantly more than their metal. An uncirculated gold coin in flawless condition might be worth a fortune, but most of the coins that have ever been minted are literal scrap. I know some people do still intentionally trade in grimy, rusty bronzes sometimes, because it's a very cheap way to own a piece of something ancient and because it can be a hobby to work on tediously cleaning them, and there's the small chance that you might get something that cleans up really nicely and turns out to be actually valuable. But that is kind of more like how retro gaming used to be, if anything (I originally got interested in this because it was cheap. People would give away old consoles or computers for next to nothing because they were "obsolete.").
>>12594719I don't think this argument is grounded in reality. The situation with retro games is much more similar to the comic books market you describe than it is to a speculation market based purely on scarcity. Just like with your comics, older retro games are not usually more valuable. The trends of price vs age is more determined by eras that people have a particular nostalgia for. So SNES games are worth a lot more than Atari 2600 games, which aren't worth much at all because they are also largely culturally irrelevant. Your description isn't really even true for NFTs. I could make an ultra rare one off NFT right now and nobody would care. The point of the speculation there was about what would catch on and be considered "cool" by the NFT-buying crowd (where you are right is that what they are speculating on is inherently worthless). I think something that is different about video game collecting is that there is a really strongly defined concept of the "library." Retro game collectors can gravitate towards "failures and forgotten shit" that was irrelevant in its time, because they can comprehensively review the entire library of games for the system in question and notice cool, unique things they haven't played before. So one weird little game can become a huge collectors item because it is really one of a kind within a console's library. It's harder for there to be a phenomenon like that with comic books or any other type of pop culture because the "library" you have to compare against is either so broad (the entire medium, the big list of every comic book in existence, which is probably unknown and runs into poorly defined edge cases about what even counts as a comic book, for example) or so much narrower (say, every official title from a given publisher) than a video game console's library. It becomes much less likely that everyone in the hobby will suddenly start fixating on the same random old obscure title.
>>12591468TRVKEall the emulator troons are seething at you
>>12594967Either way, once the 6 people on the planet who need a copy of little sampson have a copy, it will have paper value but the same unsold copy will be listsed unsold for the next 9 years.Occasionally someone will sell one from their left pocket to their right pocket to generate more recent sales history and falsify a price increase over time (heritage auctions) but thats exactly what the nft people did. Its all a scam. There really is not new blood/new money entering the "collect every NES title" crowd, its just the same 55 year old men trading with each other.Graded sealed copies of popular games will be the only things with real value in decades to come, and arcade cabinets will continue to rise. Things people with deep pockets would actually buy. They want a mint condition arcade cab of the game they played as a kid, sealed NES consoles that resemble the one they opened on christmas 1987.
>>12591462Thank you.>>12591468I'm not really mad at you being so fiscally irresponsible as to buy outdated hardware and cartridges and CDs just to relive your childhood in a mentally ill manner.>>12594751Not only can you literally do all of that on an emulator, but you can do it without wasting your child's college fund on plastic cartridges and CDs that will have essentially become useless by the time he/she first interacts with it and certainly by the time that he/she goes to college and not waste an actual fortune that can put your kid through college on fucking 20+ year old video games.I get having a small collection of your favorite games but only the most retarded of retards actually builds a physical collection of games they will not play. Collectorfags are mentally ill.
>>12591309That whole library fits onto my phone, so no.Vinyls and cds also are not worth anything
>>12594751You can do that with a flash cart. You don't need a room full of overpriced plastic.
>>12595124You sound poor, brown & stupidPS2 games go for 10 dollar each btw. If you can't afford that then consider quiting gaming
>>12591462HDDs are vulnerable, require a digital x86 based computer that is easily hacked, and they still lack the physical goodies and the overall FEELING of owning + playing YOUR games on a real hardware. Die now, emutroon.
>>12595375I can download the entire PS2, Xbox and Gamecube libraries (along with the libraries of pre-6th gen games) onto a 8 TB HDD, which is around $200-300 (maybe with an additional 4 TBs so make that $300 - $400). You are literally spending more than thousands of dollars because you are a mentally ill retard that can't get past his childhood. You aren't disproving my thesis that collectors are retarded and lack common sense. Do what you must, but stop pretending we need to normalize your retardation. I have more meaningful expenses than vidya at the end of the day. Just like I won't buy modern AAA garbage, I'm not spending a fortune on games I won't play.>>12595376>HDDs are vulnerable, How? What does vulnerable even mean? It'll break? Just keep sufficient backups. It can be hacked? Just don't keep personal info there. I swear this board somehow manages to be more conceited and retarded than even /v/.>require a digital x86 based computer that is easily hackedNot necessarily if you aren't connected to the Internet or even if you are, that's not relevant since most emulators don't even have access to anything but the set of ROMs/ISOs you use, which aren't anything worth hacking nor can they really give out critical information if you update the emulator often.>and they still lack the physical goodies and the overall FEELING of owning + playing YOUR games on a real hardware. Die now, emutroon.I don't care. No one sane cares since most people won't outside the time frame these consoles were relevant. Who are you flexing to with all this shit? No one cares. And I can find all the manuals and goodies/extras I want on the Internet. I just want to play the game and do so in a expedient and fiscally sane manner. If you just want to play the game on real hardware that's fine. I do that for my non-retro consoles that are hard to emulate. Having a superiority complex over being dumb enough to buy outdated hardware just makes you out to be insane and retarded.
>>12595392>I can download the entire PS2, Xbox and Gamecube libraries (along with the libraries of pre-6th gen games) onto a 8 TB HDD,No one cares if you download the entire libraries full of duplicate multiplats that you're never going to play.>You are literally spending more than thousands of dollars because you are a mentally ill retard that can't get past his childhood.And you're not? what's the point of buying a $500 hard drive and wasting its precious space with stuff you're not going to bother playing ever?>You aren't disproving my thesis that collectors are retarded and lack common sense.You yourself are a collector, have you tried proofreading before pressing "post"?>I have more meaningful expenses than vidya at the end of the day.Just say you're too financially irresponsible and feel guilty about spending money on entertainment and have to justify it with other means.>Just like I won't buy modern AAA garbage, I'm not spending a fortune on games I won't play.Yet you're still spending hundreds to hoard digital games you're never going to touch?
>>12595426>No one cares if you download the entire libraries full of duplicate multiplats that you're never going to play.I know. I'm not doing this for attention. I'm doing this to actually play the games I want to play. I'm actually grounded in reality compared to physical collectors that think people will be impressed by rows and rows of games collecting dust and bit rot.>And you're not? what's the point of buying a $500 hard drive and wasting its precious space with stuff you're not going to bother playing ever?So I can store the games I want to play and store other important documents and other shit I need at a reasonable price. That's the whole point of a hard drive: to store important data and make backups. I said I COULD store the entire libraries of the 6th gen consoles, not that I WOULD store it. That's retarded. >You yourself are a collector, have you tried proofreading before pressing "post"?Not really unless you count digital collections of games as collecting, which it really isn't. It's for the sake of having the games available, not as an "investment" or a show piece as actual collectors tend to think of their collections.>Just say you're too financially irresponsible and feel guilty about spending money on entertainment and have to justify it with other means.This is just raw projection on your part. In what world is spending at most $500 for a device that will last 5-10 years and will be used often fiscally irresponsible? That's an extremely mundane purchase for anyone with a decent job no matter how you cut it.>Yet you're still spending hundreds to hoard digital games you're never going to touch?$500 (really $300-400 as I've laid out before) is not a fortune unless you are unironically broke as shit and don't have a job and I don't waste storage on games I have zero intention on playing, so again that's a non-issue.
>>12595437>>12595426physical collectorcucks and digital collectorcucks are both faggit posers that don't play games. All you need is two games on your PC, the one you're playing and the one you're playing next.
>>12594143Meanwhile people with Magic the Gathering and Pokemon cards are all making millions of dollars.
I've been told the future of game collecting will be two grumpy old men trying to scam each other online.I am a collector myself, but I don't get people who are caught up in their stuff being worth something someday. Hobbies aren't supposed to be productive or practical, they're just supposed to be fun.I do hope it all becomes worthless someday because honestly the prices are getting ridiculous. If there weren't so many emulatorfags, the prices would be worse.As for those who haughty people who emulate, your gaming PC will also be worthless someday. Soon all gaming will be done through streaming and cloud services.
>>12594440None of it was in the basement. We were told the flood wouldn't be that bad, I moved everything to the main floor. Flood ended up being worse. Should have moved all of it into storage.
>>12595923Maybe the second floor is best.
>>12595940as long as there's a third floor above it - you don't want to spring a surprise roof leak right on top of your setup one day
