What are your honest opinions on Sonic Adventure 2?
>honest opinionsokay here goes, you asked for it...never played it
>>12591346i wanna coom on Rouge's tits
>>12591346Dated. Most of it is a slog.
I hate the mech stages but everything else is fun.
It's pretty good
>>12591346it sucks monkey fuck
>>12591346would have been better with hubshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyurgxi1or0
>>12591346i like it.gun to my head, SA1 is the better "game."
>>12591346The best soundtrack ever created, Chao garden is kino, every stage is fun, and a great story that takes itself just the right amount of seriously. This is Sonic at its peak and its only been downhill from there, with every future game bordering on being unplayable.
>>12591346I liked it but probably wouldn't replay it still fun. I remember being surprised as a kid the dreancast was canceled when this came out and did so well which is crazy. I think was canceled before it even came out. Which is crazy to me as a kid and still is
>>12591536>I remember being surprised as a kid the dreancast was canceled when this came out and did so well which is crazy. I think was canceled before it even came out. Which is crazy to me as a kid and still isIt's true. Sega discontinued the Dreamcast on March 31, 2001, but Sega insisted that SA2 was released for Sonic's 10th birthday on June 23rd, 2001. Sonic Adventure's director, Iizuka, said that if he couldn't release games for Sega consoles, then he wanted to release games for Nintendo's console, hence the amount of Sonic games on GameCube and GBA:>2001 Sonic Adventure 2 Battle>2002 Sonic Mega Collection>2003 Sonic Adventure DX>2003 Sonic Heroes>2005 Shadow the Hedgehog>2006 Sonic Riders>2001 Sonic Advance>2002 Sonic Advance 2>2003 Sonic Battle>2004 Sonic Advance 3
Terrific game, the mech and treasure hunting stages are honestly the most replayable parts of the game imo.>>12591491An opinion I'll honestly never understand, unless it's a backhanded "I like it because it's shorter lmao"
>>12591346It's ass. Only the Sonic stages were good.
>>12591346It was graphically impressive and technically solid, but the removal of the open world "exploration stages" between levels was a poor decision.
>>12591750>ds not retro
It's a broken unfun piece of shit. Same as SA1. It's cool when you're a kid and can't discern between good and bad, but even then, something feels off and not particularly enjoyable about it
Sonic Adventure 2 is not very good compared to Adventure 1 and I would even go so far as to say it's the game that put the franchise on the path to mediocrity. It's not terrible but from this game forward the level design in 3D sonic games became "streamlined" and hallwayish and it's just gotten worse since. Adventure 1's levels, despite also having linear segments, just felt more open, were more fun to play around in and no two levels felt the same but in Adventure 2 many of the levels feel identical and don't have anything interesting to offer in terms of gameplay. The mech stages are just fucking awful too, I'm not going to pretend I was the biggest fan of Gamma's levels in SA1 but this is a massive downgrade from those the movement and control is worse, the levels are too long and slow, and they got rid of the counting down timer so there's no reason to actually shoot anything anymore. The only thing I would say SA2 does better are the treasure hunting stages and the sole reason for that is that they're unique stages, one could make the argument they're actually worse though because the radar only lets you find the emerald shards in a set order. I also miss SA1's character playstyles that didn't make it over, Tails's racing levels were fun even if they were easy, Amy's run away from the robot levels were unique and yes I actually do like Big's fishing levels.Sonic Adventure 1 is truly unique, almost nothing from it has been done in a 3D Sonic game ever again or at least done in a way that was actually any good. You can tell a lot of effort and care was put into making it a unique and complete experience. Meanwhile, Sonic Adventure 2 feels exactly like what the rest of the games would end up being, and I'm sure someone will try to argue that since it set that standard it must be great but I can't see how that's true given how every game after it is a complete piece of shit.
>>12591346Its beened called the Sovlkino of the Dreamcast in the more elite internet gaming circles
I would repopulate the human race with Rouge
>>12591939>rouge>human raceanon that's a bat furry
>>12591691it's straight up more variety. 2 even takes its minigame from 1.
One of the worst platformers I have ever played in my life. Sonic/shadow stages take like 2 minutes and the rest of the game is padded out with the fucking AWFUL treasure hunting stages with the worthless radar annd dogshit draw distance making emerald shards appear right as you’re flying past them(thanks meteor herd) and tails/egg man levels are even worse. Sonics levels are just linear rollar coasters except you have little to no control over him during setpieces and the homing attack sometimes just decides it doesn’t want to work>b-but muh chao gardenNever gave two shits about it
>>12591346greatest game of all time
>>12591346I love Sonic Adventure and Sonic Adventure 2, I just hate playing them
>>12591827Who’s gonna tell him? DS was released before most of us here was born
The adventure games are peak what sonic should feel likeBut the gameplay is pretty shitty. If it was like sonic generations it would be great. Knuckles/Rouge is fun I guess and gas the best music of all the levels. The shooting stages are boring and the last story was a nice twist...too bad they recycled it for like 5 games afterwards
>>12592460You're retarded. Read the sticky.
>>12591346knuckles/rouge stages are horrible and ruin the entire game as you spend more time in them than anything else
>>12591691only big is truly dogshit to play in SA1, meanwhile 2/3 of SA2 are ass
>>12592507Fishing-hating chud
>>12591346Cool game. SA1 is better.
>>12592338>>12592507Every alternate playstyle in SA1 is done worse though, they come off as afterthoughts because they are. The stages last seconds and offer no replay value.
>>12591346The gameplay is worse than 1.
>>12591346I preferred SA1 letting you choose which character route you wanted to progress. I don't want to get stuck doing unfun vehicle or emerald searching when I'm in the mood to go fast.
>>12592494Sorry, kiddo. I don’t read.I talk, you listen. That’s how it works. Don’t like it? Go back to your corner and play with your crayons.
>>12591346It's honestly really fucking amazingThe only levels I find to be kinda bad are like one or two Tails levels and the Rouge level with the gravity gimmickCrazy Gadget ain't great with all the switches, but you can go really fast if you know what you're doingThis is one game from my childhood that I just adored, but then I wondered if it was just nostalgiaI got it again on Steam, downloaded some Dreamcast restoration shit, and got all 180 EmblemsSo yeah, I think it's good, really good
>>12592517meanwhile SA2 has no alternative playstyles, it's just more of what SA1 already did.starting to wonder if you played the game, as there is a reason to replay each stage 3 times.meanwhile SA2 makes you replay them five goddamn times to get everything.SA1's content is more evenly paced over the whole game. SA2's content is spread as thin as they could get it.
>>12593018The point was that the stages in SA2 are just better. The treasure hunting stages and mech stages are more enjoyable than the Knuckles and Gamma stages in SA1.>SA1's content is more evenly paced over the whole gameWhat a laughable thing to say about the game that makes you fight Chaos 4 three times and go through Sky Chase four times. You're just being a tedious contrarian.
>>12591540All yhose games are alot of fun. Im glad sonic survived desu anon
>>12591346It’s one of the ultimate vibes games next to ff6 and deus ex. The gameplay was never best in class, but it had this early 2000s vibe that could never be captured again.
>>12591750Still boggles my mind that Mario and Sonic got minigame compilations while rabbids got the rpg strategy experience.
>>12593095>What a laughable thing to saynow look up how many times you're required to do the car racing segments in order to 100% SA2.
>>12593207>in order to 100% SA2SA1 has you fighting exactly the same bosses and playing exactly the same minigames with no changes across multiple characters' stories. Before you've even started replaying levels, in which the missions are completely banal and could have been accomplished your first run if it would let you. The alternate missions in SA2 actually do change how each stage is played.
>>12593225>My argument is you're doing segments more than once lol>N-no, how many times you're required to do a segment doesn't count!lmaoin SA1, you're doing different things. fighting a boss, playing pinball, fishing, playing whac-a-mole, playing a 3D railshooter, raising chao, racing a hovercart.what's SA2 got? half the playstyles, 1.5x the grinding, racing when 1 already had racing, chao when 1 already had chao.
>>12593256>what's SA2 got? half the playstyles, 1.5x the grinding, racing when 1 already had racing, chao when 1 already had chao.They had less budget and devs when cooking SA2, hence most of the game being copy + paste
>>12593256>Half the gameplay stylesGood they kept the good ones
>>12593259>>125932602 is straight-up less variety, including HUB worlds.Big hate is a meme.
>>12593256>in SA1, you're doing different thingsYou're playing truncated and shallow segments of Sonic's levels that are over in seconds.>half the playstylesThat are all done better. It's about quality and not quantity. If you're going to be tasked with playing as other characters, it's better that their levels be enjoyable and not this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J77b_9wuoTo
>>12593323and that's why SA1's levels are superior.it's better that their levels be enjoyable and not this:
>>12593338>posts a toddler playing the levelThat's cute but not how you play the gamehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psEhEhS16HI
>>12594189do you think you start with the hover and box-breaking shot?are you sure you've played the game?
>>12594205Do you think you lose them when you replay levels?
>>12594224do you think that changes the fact you've still got to do the levels without them before you get them?
>>12594238Of the point you’re trying to make is that replaying SA2 levels with an ever-growing character is more fun, then yep, way better than the 15 second SA1 slop.
>>12594292the point is SA1 doesn't have to stretch its replays that thin, because its got twice the styles to throw at you.3 times vs 5 times to 100% a level.way more minigames.the hubs, the literal adventure part of Sonic Adventure.
>>12594320Again with quantity over quality. I’m glad we can at least agree that SA2 is higher quality, you just like having more sets of jingling keys to look at.
>>12594361>higher qualitythe only thing it would have over 1 in speed stages is rail grinding.many people prefer 1's radar since it tracks all shards at once.i've already posted itt showing how the mech stages could be better.
>>12591346Not enough fishing.
>>12594394Better design in the speed stages, the hunting stages are better by virtue of lasting longer than 30 seconds, the mech stages are better by lasting longer than 15 seconds. It’s crystal clear that SA2 is higher quality.
Great game.
SA2 tendies mindbroken that anyone could possibly not enjoy their childhood pigslop
>>12595369>tendiesbot broke
>>12595371No one who thinks SA2 is better than SA1 played the games on Dreamcast. It's like you were born to have shitty taste in everything.
>>12595371when someone says SA2 is their favorite, it's because that was the first Sonic game they ever played, and they played it on their Gamecube.
>>12595941I was there and conscious when I played, all of the following, on release: Sonic 1, 2, 3 & Knuckles, Spinball, 3D Blast, R, Adventure 1, SA2, both ob the DC, not on the GC. I also played Heroes and Shadow 05 on PS2. Later on Generations on release, then Mania, then Frontiers, then Superstars. I won't bother trying out the other boostshit releases or the book spinoffs. I know they're shit. While playing Heroes in 2003 i realized that this franchise had peaked with SA2 and was only going downwards from there. I was proven right by history.
Simultaneously redefined the franchise and ruined it.
>>12595389Noone, just 45% of them
>>12592428Ladies and gentlemen, Sifted the Great
>>12593338"all this waiting"if you actually played well you wouldn't have to wait.
>>12596193you see, the difference between you and me, is i didn't need to play Heroes in order to know that. as soon as i saw from video and info that it wasn't Adventure 3, i was out. i've been watching the Sonic dumpster fire from a distance for decades now.
