Why does the retarded point and click SNES Shadowrun get all the attention and the far superior Genesis game is relatively unknown? It's the closest you can get to a video game version of the tabletop game, it's open world, multiple classes, hacking is actually a whole separate sub game instead of the garbage on SNES. Once again, Genesis does what Nintendon't.
>>12595076>Why does the retarded point and click SNES Shadowrun get all the attention and the far superior Genesis game is relatively unknown? It's the other way around, you stupid dumb fuck
>>12595134It literally is not.
>>12595076>>12595137My experience is that the Genesis version has always been considered the better of the two. I very distinctly remember downloading a SNES ROM first when I was about 13, wondering what the hype was about, and realizing I got the wrong version.
>>12595076the snes game might be a better "one and done" playthru. the genesis game has a lot more depth and a ton of variety in what you can do, but its pretty poorly balanced and is a very frustrating first playthru. its my favorite genesis game but its really something you have to devote some time to to appreciate in multiple playthrus. the snes game is more or less linear and the only real stumbling blocks are some unintuitive keyword hunts. so if youre looking for a more straightforward cyberpunk type of experience its a bit friendlier. but it doesnt have the replayability of the genesis game because youre not really making any type of build and the game is more or less the same thing each time.
>>12595140A quick look at the huge amount of videos glazing the SNES game in comparison to the Genesis one is a good example of this one not being nearly as revered as the SNES version for some bizarre reason. Even Shadowrun Returns directly integrates the SNES canon by having the main character appear in it while the events of the Genesis game are no where to be seen. In recent years it has gotten more attention but in the grand scheme of things the SNES version is fellated far more.
>>12595142Have you ever checked out the rom hacks for it that let you play as an Orc/Troll/Elf instead of just a human? Pretty cool.
>>12595137Might be a new zoomer trend then. For the whole history of internet vidya discussion, starting with the 1990s message boards, Shadowrun on Genesis has been a better known version.
>>12595147those just adjust your stats right? ive always been disappointed at the lack of fan made content for both these games. the genesis game especially is just begging for new scenarios/interactions.
>>12595151No, they also fully change your in game sprite and portrai, using the same sprites your followers use in the base game for each race. If I recall correctly it requires a seperete patch for whatever race you want to play as (essentially a sprite replacer but it works well since the companion sprites are perfect for this and encompass all the various races and stats are changed as well)
Just the usual nintentroon historical revisionism
>>12595153nice, i will check that out then.
>>12595150Proofs?
>>12595158How old are you?
>>12595076The game can be frustrating or difficult for people not willing to take the time to learn it and hacking in particular can be brutal if you approach it like a retard. The Shadowrun on SNES on the other hand is retard proof. >>12595145Keep in mind many of these people play a game for half an hour or an hour tops then make their videos on them. If you're strictly doing that, SNES is probably going to make the better impression.
>>1259516140. I can remember stumbling onto the Genesis version because I never saw it discussed anywhere including places like GameFAQs but saw the SNES version brought up all the time.
>>12595157I am not sure it's on RHDN (for some reason I seem to recall it wasn't there back in the day, so you may need to Google around for it (or Duck Duck Go or Yandex or whatever depending on how cucked Google search is nowadays)
a lot more people probably beat the snes game. id also say it has better music and is really carried by its atmosphere. most people probably tried the genesis game for 20 minutes and got raped by hellhounds and quit playing
>>12595165This.
https://youtu.be/E2e0dUt4IfUHere's a good breakdown on why one would prefer the SNES version over the Genesis game
>>12595172Nah these guys opinions are largely retarded half the time
If you have ever in your life spent a millisecond console warring about these games you deserve to be raped to death
>>12595201Explain
>>12595076What the hell are you talking about anon? The snes version blows.
>>12595207Yet it gets praised far more than the Genesis version by the internet at large
>>12595076>Once again, Genesis does what Nintendon't.I bring every time some zoomer says this. The actual line was "Genedid what Nindidnt."
>>12595076>Genesis does what Nintendon't.this is true. i never played the nintendon't version though.
>>12595212Shut up Auster
>>12595210I never see either of them get any praise.
>>12595216It's worth a play if you like point and click adventure games
>>12595220How did you know it was me?
>>12595221Search for them and you will
>>12595165>tried the genesis game for 20 minutes and got raped by hellhoundsthey don't show up until mid game though? AFAIK hellhounds COULD appear in some zombie crypts, but it might be a bug. usually those are filled with weak zombies and if you're unlucky, a vampire shows up. hellhounds should show up earliest in some mid-level corpo runs.
>>12595225>you like point and click adventure gamesi grew out of them at least 15 yrs ago. they're a paint with their obscure "puzzles" and pixel hunting.
>>12595235This one isn't so bad as those, you move around like a traditional isometric RPG and the battles are real time but you interact with the world/target enemies by moving a cursor around on screen (which bafflingly does not support the SNES mouse)
>>12595076It's based
>>12595304based on WHAT
>>12595235>they're a PAIN with their obscure "puzzles"
>>12595076If you mean why gamedevs don't mention it, there isn't much of a story to tell that doesn't require you to play the game a lot. For cyberspace, well it is too good compared to what most people think cyberspace should be so they just avoid it to avoid embarrassment.
Both good games.The snes one just has a better atmosphere,
>>12595341Deez.
>>12595367The cyberspace on it is pretty much exactly as it should it, it's exactly what I image it should be and pretty much like the Shadowrun novels and tabletop game describe it. No other game has ever really done this, even Cyberpunks tabletop game has hacking that is basically something like that whereas 2077 is just skill checks and menus. Same as Deus Ex.
>>12595145Maybe it's a youtuber generation thing, zoomers don't know the Genesis exists outside of Sonic. All I know is on the TTLG forums and Forumplanet everyone always talked about the Genesis version as a classic.
>>12595434From a gameplay perspective, people who hate point and click games with a controller (or just pure keyboard in out of the box emulation) will definitely like the Genesis gameplay where you just rapidly lock on and shoot. Even with the RNG mechanics involved it is faster and more intuitive.
>>12595076I had this as a kid and couldn't get far in it. This winter I cleared it 3 times, once with each class. Good game, flawed but still a good time. I played the SNES version afterwards but dropped it after a couple of hours.
>>12595076>it's the closest to a tbt experience >shows an action game
>>12595076The problem is normies automatically assume that the SNES versions of games are better, but this is just a symptom of their being uncultured in general. You can't develop good taste without trying different things and then sorting out the good from the bad. Normies, being the uncultured swine that they are, don't try different things. They just eat up whatever slop is presented to them and the thought never even crosses their mind that there might be something better out there. This is why in any discussion with them on vidya they'll always name the same small handful of games, because that's all that exists within their experience.
>>12595076>Why does the retarded point and click SNES Shadowrun get all the attention and the far superior Genesis game is relatively unknown?Every time SNES Shadowrun is brought up, so is the MD one and vice versa. It's literally impossible to talk about either without the other one being mentionned.You know this and your question is loaded and disingeneous. Just another failed Nintendo hate bait. Half of the posters pretending that your question corresponds to the reality are probably (You) samefagging.
>>12595150Nah zoomers hate Nintendo, too white coded
>>12595134Yes, yes (you) are.
>>12595210The majority of people who praise the Super NES version of Shadowrun either:>never actually played it, and just blindly parrot what others said about it.>only played it for 10 minutes, not realizing that if they kept playing, they would've found out the game starts going down in quality by the halfway point, and then it's just a freefall from there until the end credits.
To this day I'm upset at how poorly designed and balanced Shadowrun was. The grind is fucking insane. At the very start of the game you need to grind up 250 bucks just to get the first bit of plot, and every mission available is for 40-50 bucks, and you'll lose most of that if you even enter combat due to ammo and healing costs. Then you'll need to grind even harder for everything else, better weapons and armor, a cyberdeck, programs, contacts, etc. Then mid-game they clearly stopped playtesting, since most of the jobs you can take will cost you far more in resources than you will possibly make. Doing a corp run is a noob trap and good for little more than blowing through your nuyen. And the late-game hacks can easily eat up hundreds of thousands of nuyen thanks to Tar Pits and Tar Paper eating up your programs.I just cheat and use the ABACAB cheat for all the nuyen I want, but anyone looking to play it clean will be spending ages doing the same generic escort missions for money, all game long.
>>12596013This was why I made a save right at the start of the game with grinded maxed base and relevant stats for all runners and millions of nuyen. I did it without the cheat code though because I like doing matrix runs.
>>12595076I shall reveal to you the truth.These fucking assholes are why people do not like this game. They are a gang called Halloweeners and these three bastards in particular will kill you in the early game before the open world opens up. Shoot them? Your accuracy is so terrible that you will miss 15/16 shots and the one with the gun will just ignore the damage because of their armor laughing at your pathetic peashooter.Fist fighting? Your starting stats are so shit you will get your ass beaten and tossed on to the side of road. (Literally.)To top it off the building I just entered is where you go to boost your stats, so you are blocked off until you grind gear or patiently hope the RNG gods favor you. People cannot just sit down and go when starting this game because this first trial which is setup to all but guarantee you lose the first time.
>>12595163>40More like 4.
>>12595158>ProofsFucking ESL you would know if you were from here.
>>12596264It's a meme, newfag.
>>12596226They should unironically git gud
>>12596301>i'm only pretendingno
>>12595231Once you complete the first couple quests you can go to any available location. If you bumblefuck your way into a den in the Puyallup Barrens or some other shitholes you get your asshole eaten by hellhounds.
The SNES game has great music, and a cool atmosphere. I always enjoyed the story, especially the opening to the game.Gameplay wise - definitely a mixed bag. Hacking sucks, and combat with that point and click style aim is meh. This game could definitely benefit from mouse support. Also hiring runners is not as good as on Genesis. Oh and the keyword dialog system is a pain in the ass.The Genesis version - also has pretty good music. The story is definitely not as good overall and feels like there's much less to it. If you know what you're doing it's very easy to breeze through towards the end game. The "secret" runners are a nice addition. Overall I think it feels like more of a crpg than the SNES version. And yes, grinding sucks, especially at the beginning. Once you get good at hacking though, you can easily make a lot of money by posting up at the phone next to the shop that buys data. My biggest gripe is the slowdown during combat; it's like they want the gang members to kill you. And there's nothing like walking out of a building and randomly getting slaughtered by 5 over powered enemies.Overall though, I like the Genesis version better. The SNES one has a lot of charm, but it just doesn't make as good a use of the Shadowrun IP.
>>12595076I tried to get into it but it seems so much shittier. The SNES game is great and underrated imo. The Genesis game feels like a cheap mid tier at best Sega Genesis game for which Genesis had a ton of mid games. Also I am not sure if you know but there is a more modern Shadowrun game that has tactics RPG style gameplay. I never played it but it looks alright. Certainly better than this trash heap.
>>12596304If you are implying using skill by other methods besides money grinding (for gear) it isn't really possible at that time. Even the combat focused street sammy cannot win against them right at the beginning of the game without gear grinding (and why street samurai is the worst class as you basically have shitty cyberware for no real gain).
>>12595408There's an old roguelike called "Decker" that's pretty clearly inspired by Genesis Shadowrun's hacking.
There's a hack for Shadowrun snes to play with mouse. Also there's an attempted to remake the snes game into pc, search It up.
>>12595980kys shit eating retard
>>12595231It isn't a bug, just adjusted random encounter chances. Like how in redmond barrens you get a chance to encounter gargoyles and bandersnatches. You can evenj encounter hellhounds in the middle of the city if you are very unlucky.
>>12596226>Halloweeners and these three bastards in particular will kill youdeath is "cheap" in this game though. you just lose 20 percent of your nuyen? it's so cheap, getting killed by a BlackICE in cyberspace is cheaper than getting your Attack prog eaten by a Tarpit.
>>12597576>You can evenj encounter hellhounds in the middle of the city if you are very unlucky.iirc the only hellhounds that will spawn outside in urban areas is that one encounter with a mage who has one hellhound with him. otherwise you only see them inside corps, the wilderness, or those ghouls buildings that seem to mistakenly have wilderness enemies.
>>12597009>street samurai is the worst class as you basically have shitty cyberware for no real gainwhile the Decker start lets you start hacking ASAP, your Deck specs and progs are so crap you most likely won't be able to download anything to sell in early game unless you're lucky with random networks.most braindead strat is to use Shaman or Samurai to do courier runs to get easy money and XP. Decker can do the same, but it's waste in the longrun since you can just earn money to hire the fem-elf decker who already starts out with good hacking skills/stats, instead of grinding your own hacking skill.
>>12595076>far superior Genesis game>need to grind for hours to get out of the starting area>unplayable without constantly consulting a guide>4 gunsthis game is trash, genesis does it again
>>12597898>>4 gunssmells like another AI bot poster.there are a few handguns, but you also get a few shotguns, and like 3 SMGs(only 1 SMG is relevent)? also you can customise them with upgrades.
>>12597916>pistol>heavy pistol>smg>shotgunas i said, 4 guns
>>12598302categories, ESL kun.
>>12598316the guns in those categories don't differ enough mechnically to be considered separate guns. it's like saying skyrim has 6 swords
>>12595150No it hasn't.
>>12598319>don't differ enough mechnically to be considered separate gunsthen try beating the game with your starter gun and see what happens. you didn't play the game, or you're a chatbot. go away.
>>12598739>tripfaggot thinks reskins with different stats are different weaponstells me all i need to know about (You)
>>12595145even on YouTube I see everyone say the genesis game is better.>>12595163total opposition me.>>12595210total fiction
>>12596013you can sell your starting gear to make enough to hire Ricky for one run, then sell all of HIS starting gear to buy back your brother's stuff without doing any milk runs
The snes game is more intuitive and approachable for the 10-14 year old kid who was the entire target audience for console games at the time. I'm speaking from personal experience. I rented both versions in the 90s. The Genesis version looked like shit and was confusing to the average player. Being accurate to the tabletop experience was not relevant to a video game product at that time. You had to be there, zoomies.
>>12599279yeah, I always do this. You can get the Ares Predator almost right away doing this. Then you're set for a bit gun-wise. After this I take ghoul hunting jobs for a while and improve my quickness and also negotiation to get more nuyen per pop on ghouls.
>>12597876You can change your deck and your programs but you cannot change your cyberware tripfag. Shaman has that annoying totem taking up an item slot too but the decker only makes you pay the price of a datajack.
