>>12596732
No melodramatic story for redditors or coomerbait characters for incels like final fantasy 6-7

>>12596732
Midwits only know how to discuss story and fanfiction schizo theories.
Games that are 90% gameplay therefore don't generate much discussion.

It's discussed more than 1-4 because a number of people believe the mere inclusion of many classes automatically makes it a masterpiece (even if they're not well balanced)

To be honest I feel like the characters and the world are very soulful even if not "epic", but that part almost never gets mentioned

>>12596732
Less nostalgia for it, most of the western final fantasy fans didn't have access to it til the gba or the snes fantranslations came out. Only people that speak runes or got a translation guide off gamefaqs played it.i can't remember if it had a playstation release but at that point everyone would have moved on to 7 or beyond

>>12596732
it's boring af

>>12596813
That's how I feel actually. The class stuff is cool but very overrated. You're still making everyone free lancer slop by end game unless you're lazy anyways but the story was the first one (aka compared to 1-4) where the party is likable enough that you actually give a shit when one dies.

>>12596943
It did, so you had a piss poor translation that someone dug out of a filing cabinet from the last time they rejected the game for US release coupled with the atrocious load times of the power of Playstation struggling to handle a 16bit RPG.
But hey, you get a couple of FMVs featuring some stilted 90s CGI Amano art inspired mannequins so 10/10 game of the year.

>>12596958
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysuZEGu251Y

Final Fantasy started at 6

>>12596943
>or the snes fantranslations came out

It's one of the earliests SNES fan translation though, it's from 1998

As someone who has only really played 1 and 6 what are some good things about 2-5?

>>12596732
It's shit. Also, bot engagement thread.

>>12597539
FF2 has a unique melancholic tone to it. You should play it. The others you should skip

>>12597539
You should try playing 4, it's the quintessential classic Final Fantasy game. I think it's the most popular one of the first 6 in Japan

>>12596813
Games don't need to be "well balanced". It's okay to have over powered and underpowered options. It really doesn't detract from the game.

I don’t like that one town theme that’s trying to sound like a Jaunty Irish pub.
That is my biggest complaint with V.

>>12597539
For all intents and purposes Final Fantasy 4 is the first 'real' FF game in the sense that they were able to tell the full epic story that they wanted to tell without hardware holding them back too much. It's a fairly generic fantasy story but it's world spanning and has a sense of scale while still having a cast with clear motivation and arcs. It's basically a must play at least once in your life if you're a fan of the genre at all just for the historical context.

Final fantasy 2 is like a proto 4 in a lot of ways but the story isn't as tight and the cast is mostly forgettable or has really nonsensical motivation. Great music though and the story does get a little crazy, it's mostly held back by the gameplay though it's very much a love it or hate it thing.

There is a proto 5 but with the lack of story or characters. It's fine I guess. I have a lot of nostalgia for the DS version but I'm not sure a random person will get much from it. Serviceable game but you don't really need to play it if you're not interested.

5 is 3 fully realized with the class system at the front and center. Lots and lots of options for how you approach it from a gameplay point of view. The trade off is that the story isn't very good but imo it's the first FF game to actually have a likable cast. So while the story isn't very deep or intriguing, you will probably grow fond of the main characters during it. The tone is also a bit all over the place.

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>>12596947
>You're still making everyone free lancer slop by end game
For super bosses sure but you absolutely don't need to go free lancer to beat the game. It actually takes a lot of AP grinding to make free lancer good since it wants you to master several classes for stats and abilities.

>>12598595
This. I went freelancer to take down Omega, but other than that, finished the game with everyone in a job of some sort. The only time I went uber-power freelancer was replaying through the Pixel Remaster since it already had built-in AP cheats, so I mastered all classes so my freelancers would be walking gods.

>>12597539
IV is one of the best FFs ever made.

>>12598808
No way. 4's only claim to fame is having the original implementation of ATB. Everything else about it is boring as hell. The story is goofy. There's basically zero character customization (unless you play the DS version), and it's easily the most on-rails title until FF10.

>>12596732
because autistics like me get to Karnak castle countdown and experience a huge block and drop the game

>>12596813
>the mere inclusion of many classes automatically makes it a masterpiece
That's correct, though. It took what FF1 and FF3 did and built on it even further. It offers a level of job customization not seen in any other (turn-based) FF game.

Yeah, there are "meta" setups but that applies to every FF game with job choices.

>>12597539
>FF2
It features a lot of series firsts like Chocobos, Cid, and Holy / Ultima spells. Other than that, it's a piece of shit that feels like a beta prototype of the SaGa games and the entire game can be summed up as "cool idea on paper, but executed very badly". The GBA remake and all future ports/remakes of the game nerf the shit out of it to try and force it back into being a "normal" FF game.
Best version: PS1 (FF Origins)

>FF3
Greatly expanded upon FF1's job classes and allowed you to swap between them at any point in the game. A bit annoying in that there are some dungeons that REQUIRE specific job classes, but I think there's only 3 or 4 in the entire game that do that. Feels much grander in scale than the first two games. Also the first game to feature Summon spells, Dragoons, and a few other things that would go on to become series staples.
Best version: NES, but I've heard the Pixel Remaster version is good too.

>FF4
It's not BAD, but...gameplay-wise it kinda pales compared to the others. There's absolutely no character customization of any kind. It is only notable for being the first FF to have the active time battle system. (even if you can't see the ATB bars in the original SNES versions)
Best version: JP SNES with translation patch; US SNES version removed game mechanics and plot details and nerfed some other things

>FF5
Continues to expand upon FF1 and FF3's job systems, offering a much wider variety of job classes to pick from, and a job-leveling system that lets you mix and match job abilities for a whole 'nother level of customization. A few of the jobs are kinda crap though, which is inevitable; they were just throwing shit at the wall to see what stuck. It's still a really fun game though and has a shitton of replayability due to how many different job setups you can do.
Best version: JP SNES with translation patch

>>12596732
Missed the SNES release, and the Playstation port wasn't as good leaving emulation as the best way to play it, so a low number of people are nostalgic for it. It's one of Japan's favorites on the other hand.

Yeah the PS1 port of FF5 suffered from loading times and weird sound issues; almost every sound effect sounds really bitcrushed and low quality, like they are microphone recordings of a TV playing the SNES sounds or something.

>>12599140
I bought the PS1 port the day I saw it because 'holy shit, a FF game I didn't know about!', and played all the way through on the PS1 and loved the game. I wouldn't recommend it because of load times, but for those of us who hadn't discovered emulation yet, we were glad just to be able to play it.

>>12599074
>The story is goofy.
Strike 1 right out the gate. Doubly so when 5 is right fucking there.

>>12599154
>or those of us who hadn't discovered emulation yet, we were glad just to be able to play it.
yep. FFV is great if you have literally nothing else to play

>>12597539
2 is far, far ahead of its time when it comes to story and characters. It doesn't have any of the video game RPG tropes of the time and instead is about a cast of teenagers entangled in a (more) realistic war story in which the fantasy elements are merely a backdrop , and used as tools of war. Characters with different personalities come and go in the party too.
The gameplay system is also unlike anything else and leaves a lot of room for preparation and experimentation, basically like what would become the norm during the 5th gen.
Everything you know Final Fantasy to be, comes from FF2, and in that regard it did what noone else did.

Westerners don't realize that because the first time anyone played FF2 was in the 00's.

>>12599530
You should try and play the nes version of 2 instead of just watching a retrospective youtuber video about it. There's a reason people, including the japs, don't give a fuck about it.

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>>12599532
gay sissy post

>>12599536
>Fuming this hard at being called out
Easy win

I feel that alot of its "fans" are posers who just like it because it's not that known. It was the last one to be released in the west from the classic ones.
It is prefectly fine. An average Final Fantasy game, nothing to get worked up about.

>>12599550
>It was the last one to be released in the west from the classic ones.
That was 3

>>12599550
I discovered FF as a teenager when the PS2 came out, had only played Nintendo. So, 01-03 I played all of I-X, mostly emulated for I-VI.
I really like V, it feels like a pure adventure. It’s kinda goofy but there isn’t too much dialogue. It looks really nice. Idk it doesn’t have anything glaring I would complain about. I prefer the PSX ones, but I see flaws everywhere in those.

>>12599552
You are right, I was dumb and forgot.
3 is very loved in Japan, but not elsewhere.

FFV kinda feels more like Dragon Quest in Final Fantasy's clothing.

>>12599074
Your taste is dogshit.
>the story is goofy
You lack whimsy and soul as well. IV has great bosses, music, and locations, and the characters are all memorable. It is the poster child of what an FF game should be. Especially today. Very few FFs are as solid as it.

>>12599532
>There's a reason people, including the japs, don't give a fuck about it.

https://w.atwiki.jp/gcmatome/pages/3461.html

>which made a name for itself with its shocking and innovative directorial techniques. In stark
contrast to its predecessor, it incorporated challenging new features that went beyond simply being a Dragon Quest follower, such as the abolition of jobs and levels, and a dramatic storyline.
>While this setting is classic and quintessential in fields such as novels and films, its adoption as a world setting in a computer RPG, which has limited expressive capabilities, was groundbreaking at the time.
>it achieved even greater sales than its predecessor
>Nevertheless, the unique system and scenario presentation introduced in this game influenced many subsequent works.
>While this was the last game in the main Final Fantasy series to feature a system similar to this one, it can be said to be a highly significant title as an early, developing entry in the series.

Sounds like they care plenty

>>12599093
Just look up where the elven mantle is and skip everything else. Nothing else is really missable, just items that are good and two spells you can get a bit early. If you don't try to collect everything or waste tons of time on battles the timer is pretty generous, not worth throwing the game out over.
>But I can't because tism
Don't be a stereotype.

>>12599963
The music and monster designs are top notch, but literally everything else about the game is ass. The characters are memorable for their fakeouts more than their actual stories.
>It is the poster child of what an FF game should be.
Put your dick back in your pants, the series would have cratered if it didn't get better after 4.

>>12599484
The difference is that FF5 is a campy, self-aware Saturday morning cartoon story while FF4 tries to be a somewhat serious fantasy drama and totally fails at it. Kain's multiple betrayals are dumb and so are all the fakeout deaths.

>>12596732
It's an actual good game and didn't come to the states because Toddler Americans had only it's junior equivalent: Mystic Quest

>>12600735
Is it though, or is that just how it was localized?

>>12600838
What the fuck does localization have anything to do with this? These are explicit, on-screen events - not translation quirks. You literally see Kain betray you multiple times and see Cid and Yang miraculously survived supposedly deadly explosions.

>>12600980
FF5, not 4.

>>12601009
Same shit. Half the comedy in that game is visual slapstick. You got all the goofy piano tutorials, the pub dancers, characters flailing around, et cetera. There's also a bunch of dev stories involving the game going from an initially dark scenario into a lighthearted one.