>>12600094
Bro they are all the same generic space shooter shit

>>12600094
Everyone thought the genre was outdated slop by the time the 90s began

>>12600104
The same argument can made about any genre DESU, most of everything is basically the same formula

>skill issue thread
Yawn.

>>12600109
bullet hell slop is easier than real shmups

Gradius III is actual garbage, completely unbalanced mess of a game they didn't playtest.

>>12600094
Pretty much everything you named is good though.

As someone who has cleared 100+ shmups (including tons of multi-loops, no-miss, and scoreplay), the best shmups I've played are:
>Tiger-Heli AC
>In The Hunt AC
>Batsugun AC
>Rayforce AC
>Sonic Wings AC
>Gun.Smoke AC
>Raiden II AC (original rom only, erroneously marked "easy" in MAME)
>OutZone AC
>1944
>Sine Mora (original)
>Jamestown+
>Skyforce Reloaded
>Jackal NES
>Shock Troopers AC


I'd still take Star Fox 64 and Sin & Punishment over any of those if we include rail shooters. Also twin-stick shooters are the natural evolution of shmups and far better than any shmupslop, man I fucking love Isaac Rebirth, Furi, Hotline Miami 2, Atomicrops, Geometry Wars 3, Dead Nation, Resogun, Nex Machina, Star of Providence, Fury Unleashed, Bleed 2, etc.

>>12600213
Go bacl to /v/

>>12600213
>Jackal NES

Based

Childhood is playing platformers
Adulthood is going back and playing all the shmups you missed

>>12600213
>console shmups count in the total
lol. what a coincidence none of the ones you count as "good" are considered hard

>>12600213
LMAO fucking casual

>>12600620
Why wouldn't console shmups also count? I mainly play arcade shmups there and 10/14 of those games I said I liked are arcade games... Also Gun.Smoke, Rayforce, 1944, Raiden II, Sonic Wings are some of the harder shmups out there.

I don't understand what you're trying to say, and I don't think you understand either.

>>12600094
>Truxton 2 and Raiden DX.
>no retrocheevo support
What the fuck makes you think I'm gonna play these?

>>12600630
>retrocheevo

>>12600628
design philosophy of arcade games is fundamentally different than console games

>>12600649
Not really, aside from being designed to siphon as many quarters as possible. Tons of arcade games got console ports anyways.

>No mention of Compile

>>12600649
>>12600620
Post clears. Rayforce no-miss, Sonic Wings 2all no-miss, Tiger-Heli 2all no-miss, Gun.Smoke no-miss, R-Type 2J 2all nomiss, Daisenpuu 2all no-miss. All of these far harder than any clear you've ever done shitter.

>>12600628
the fact that you put batsugon next to those makes it look like a larp

>>12600657
>I only clear kusoge
I'm new, my clears are these
Mushihimesama original
magical chase normal
nostradamus easy
donpachi 1-all

>>12600657
>>12600667
what is nomiss, 2all, 1-all, etc

>>12600661
Batsugun is fucking awesome, what?

>>12600671
nomiss = never die
some games have multiple loops, 1 / 2 all says how many loops
>>12600675
But it's substantially easier. Babbies first clear

>>12600963
Substantially easier than what? I said those are my favorite shmups, not the hardest shmups you fucking autistic retard.

>>12600094
Yeah I think I don't like shmups until I remember I beat Gradius 3 on super nintendo before I hit puberty.

>>12600123
True

>>12600667
The guy you're responding to is a liar and has not played any shmup. Welcome to /vr/.

>>12601168
anyone can claim to have 1cc'd any game online

These are the best shmups I've played, in order:
>Robo Aleste
>Galactic Attack
>Judgement Silversword
>Darius Gaiden

These kinda suck:
>Keio
>Air Zonk

>>12600094
Treasure is an incredible company that made some of the most exciting action packed games ever created. Gradius V, radiant silvergun, and ikaruga are all phenomenal shmups.

>>12601243
And you haven't cleared a single one of them, poser faggot.

Sin & Punishment is great, but the rest of their catalog is shit.

Why is ricmaria still on this website?

>>12601243
They also made WarioWorld for the gamecube
>>12601267
>>12601168
You're right

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2.13 MB PNG

this is my objective top 16 shmups and if it offends you, you need to repent and git gud

>>12601376
if you didnt 1cc it you cant rank it

>>12601379
I cleared all those and many more nephew

>>12601267
So if you didn't clear a game you don't have a right to enjoy it? This board is ridiculous.

>>12601445
No, it's just ricmaria off his meds and with a new audience since /shmupg/ ended.

NES/FC/FDS SHMUP tier list

>God Tier
Gradius II
Gyruss
S.C.A.T

>High Tier
1943
Crisis Force
Falsion
Gradius
Life Force
Over Horizon
Parodius da!
Starship Hector

>Good Tier
Abadox
Cosmic Epsilon
Dragon Spirit
Gun.Smoke
Gun*Nac
Legendary Wings
TwinBee
Moero TwinBee - Cinnamon Hakase wo Sukue! (Stinger)
TwinBee 3
Section-Z
Silver Surfer
Tetra Star - The Fighter


>Okay Tier
Fuzzical Fighter
Talespin

>Low Tier
Insector X

>Shit Tier
1942

Only what I beat, not counting hybrid games like Robocco Wars and Xexyz. I don't consider Jackal a SHMUP either, as opposed to Gun.Smoke which is one, the autscrolling is the difference

>>12601520
Where is Zanac on your list? I would rate Gradius over Gradius II for NES honestly. I think the original Gradius is the best shmup on the NES.

Gradius II was technically impressive but as far as NES versions go, the gameplay of Gradius just felt so much more fluid and dynamic. Just a classic.

I just got Raystorm in the mail and no one is saying its good :')

>>12601537
>Where is Zanac on your list?

Never beat it, at least not yet. It's true that Gradius is very fluid, great pacing

>>12601627
I didn't play Gradius II much, but from what I did play, I hated the solar flares part on the first level and if you died you were completely fucked. Like every Gradius game but here it felt worse. The solar flares part was the gayest part of Life Force so I didn't enjoy seeing it return. This is the only version of the game I have played though, so I reserve this judgement only for the NES version.

>>12601646
gradius 2 is great, just take your time and learn each stage

>>12601445
>So if you didn't clear a game you don't have a right to enjoy it
It's impossible to enjoy a game and not clear it. In no other genre would this be acceptable. This place is genuinely odd.

You can look at what someone says and what they praise and tell they haven't played anything. Like no one is screeching about CAVE being "memoslop" then praising gradius 3. That makes zero sense. The entire game is hard memo, there is not a single second of actual dodging. And CAVE games in general have extremely lenient memo.

I don't know what the point of these threads are when it's just third worlders going
>here's my tier list of box art for games I haven't even played

>>12600654
It goes to show that these larping faggots don't know what a well made classic shmup looks like.

>>12601376
>>12601404
Ric theories btfo once again