>another generic space shooter

>>12600901
Nah, Anon, there is a scoring system and a chain system

>>12600901
>Generic
Telltale sign of a midwit

Only multiplayer games can be really complex cus humans are unpredictable. All these shmups and beat'em ups you arcadefags shill can be memorized, and you can bait the enemies into doing what you want if you know how they work.
The most deep and complex /vr/ games RTS, FPS and fighting games.

>>12600917
SHMUPs are the best genre for me.

>>12600905
Midwit is a pretty bad insult, it would just mean someone of average intelligence, which isn't offensive at all. Why not say dimwit?

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I don't know if it's that complex but touhou 11 chireiden subterranean animism is full of things to think about before even selecting the shot type. (my favorite is marisa A)

>>12600928
SHMUP Chads, unite !

>>12600895
[hard bullet hell] is the supreme game I wish I liked more and played more but I don't because I"d rather play Contra, Ghouls n Ghosts, Metal Slug, R-Type Delta and Psikyo desu family

>>12600948
Based Retro gaming Chad

>>12600895
Playing doj a lot recently so wanna yap
The game definitely is deep and complex, but is it infinitely? I don't think so
Studying and explaining how to get the theorical best score is a feasible thing within a lifetime. While we'll never be able to explain how to play at the level of stockfish in chess for instance
The game do have infinite skill ceiling however (at least for normal humans, who knows if people gets enhanced through tech in the future).
In a way the game being finite comes from it having such a defined frame: chess is infinite due to depending on its players' skill, learning martial arts is infinite due to body movements having so many possibilities, learning piano is infinite as you can always play faster and more complex sheets
A game like doj however starts with a purpose and with a much harder floor level, it's 5 stages and its loop is tightly crafted for its brutal experience that any curious player will have to face.

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>>12600931
>>12600931
I'm a casual Shmup player. i played all touhou games, shikigami no shiro series, some other random bizarre doujinges a 3 games from cave, i'm here more for the art, also Cho Ren Sha is also epic, i'm a big x68000 fan.

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>>12600952
Other unknown shmup worth checking is samidare, from the same creators of the seihou series.

>>12600917
>cus humans are unpredictable.
Clearly you don't play fighting games
Also, is unpredictability tied to depth? Because then you'd have to explain how unpredictability in a multiplayer game makes it deep, while unpredictability in playing rock paper scissors woumd probably not be

>>12600952
besides of SHMUPs which types of games are you into ?

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>>12600975
Action platformers, Hack n slash and sometimes run n gun.
>magical pop'n/valis
>bayonetta 2/ng Black
>kiki kaikai/Fray cd/etoile princesse/alien soldier
are my favorite from each genre. Pretty casual games, except to kiki kaikai and alien soldier. As i said i value fun more than depth.

is it normal in these ganes to really struggle keeping a focus on your ship while navigating through lots of bullets? i swear its like im playing half blind a lot of the time and im not sure if this is common or just me

>>12601001
It's normal, your eyes and your brain can't keep track of everything
With time you'll learn where to look on the screen depending on what you wanna do. Such as looking where your ship is for precise micrododging, looking at the top of the screen for aiming at ennemies, looking in upper middle to see upcoming bullets you can macro dodge, ...

>>12601001
You will definitely be using your peripheral vision a lot more than most other genres. You will periodically look at your ship when you need to move carefully, but a lot of the time your eyes will just be fixed on the middle of the screen and your peripheral vision will allow you to see everything at the same time.

>>12600926
Midwit is used to refer to someone of average intelligence that thinks themselves to be geniuses.

>>12601058
A perfect descriptor of shmupfags

>>12601069
Shmups are fun, son. Me and your mother have always known what fun is, so why don't you? I sometimes worry that we have failed you...

This thread is not very good

>>12601082
it 'll get better soon, we just have to stop shitlifting over shmups

>>12601085
I think the skill level on /vr/ is so incredibly low that discussion is impossible here and threads will just devolve into Mexicans jerking off over sprite art between walls of bait. I think it's actually unironically over for this board.

>>12601069
"I'm not obsessed"

>>12601082
of course. it's a shmup tranny thread

>>12600928
Not retro

>>12601228
it's Windows XP + 2D SHMUP game, way more retro then most 6th gen games discussed here

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>>12600895
I need to get the switch version sometime.

>>12600901
FPBP
/thread

>>12600895
>infinite depth
>copy route from replay
The scoring system actually forces you into the shallowest gameplay possible. If you want actual depth you would be playing JRPGs.

>>12601391
nah actually if you want depth you play VNs. They have branching paths n shieeet

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>>12601236
Moreover, considering this i'm really interesting on doujin shmups. I think you would like, it's not really about mechanical depth or quality but creativity to try something new.

>>12601391
>JRPG
>DEPTH
maybe if you're speedrunning them lol

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