I've came across this video explaining the CRT advantage in drawing pixel-art and retrogaming in general:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sxKJeYSBmIAt one point PVMs (Professional Video Monitors) and BVMs (Broadcast Video Monitors) are mentioned and they also seem to be the best out of all other types of CRTs due to their professional domain of activity.Did you guys get the chance to find any of these for sale at a decent price today?Also got any recommendation for any specific brand or manufacturer?Post your CRT setup
all you need is a 14 to 32-inch consumer-grade CRT from pretty much any manufacturer.pvms are a meme.rgb is a meme.
>>12616313Is this distinction between PVMs and consumer tvs a US thing? I know your consumer TVs had a third vibe about them. But over in Europe, the typical late era consumer CRT tv is pretty much as good as a PVM.
>>12616321You say this like PVM is a generic term. They're a line of monitors from Sony. Only Sony made them.
>>12616313I've had a few, sold them all and switched to 15khz LCDs instead.
>>12616321I'm from Eastern Europe, I was little when CRTs were still the norm but I remember seeing PVMs in places like hospitals and during political events.They were kinda small though (smaller than a regular CRT) and this can become a feature in the context of modern housing/apartment (takes up less space and less heavy maybe)
My favorite is the commodore64 monitor
>>12616339This is my big one
>>12616313I have several pvms and bvms across various brands. I prefer a bigger screen these days. My jvc dtv is 27 inches and has component. I use a sony pc monitor cuz my jvc dtv is currently on the bench.
>>12616348That CRT is straight out of the 60sThe fact that still works is unbelievable
>>12616348lookin good
>>12616313>PVM-1271QI've owned two of these, and while they are the most photogenic CRT of all time, and they have a nice smoked glass screen, they are just too darn small for serious gaming.
>>12616369Judging by the IO on the back there are 2 channels for Video In, and I can only compare them from their shape to an antenna input (kinda strange since it's the worst signal we can get) What kind of adapter is needed to connect to it either Composite, S-Video or Component?
>>12616386>University of MiamiSee this is exactly what I mean, these things were expensive and intended for professional/non consumer use. Playing games on them is silly, just get a converter/upscaler or play them on a CRT. Don't waste your money on nonsensical upcharged used things from 1994.
>>12616396>pay $1000 for a 9" PVM>get a free 32" WEGA from the recycling centeryou'll never guess which one /vr/eddit would choose
Shaders are enough to respect the look of 2D games, despite what eBay resellers tell you.
>>12616396That:>Made in JapanMakes the differenceIt's also not that expensive as I was expecting>>12616369But for the science, what kind of adapter would it need to attach to it regular consumer electronics to Video IN?
>>12616403>That:>>Made in Japan>Makes the differenceBack then a lot of the CRT's were made in Japan.
>>12616410For an Europoor like me it doesIn Eastern Europe most CRTs are of Soviet fabrication, with some Chinese and maybe Turkish manufacturing
>>12616419Don't you actually need a TV purpose built to be compatible with 50Hz electricity? So why not just get one of those European CRT's that can do PAL and NTSC? I still think your best bet a converter or scaler for a flat screen. CRT is overrated and impractical, ignore what people say about muh authentic retro experience. I had a CRT and used to play on it, I don't particularly want to go back and the only advantage is the response time. Good luck getting that shit repaired too, these are all 20 years old at least.
Didn't want to make a new thread, but why is my CRT making wavy lines like this? Can I fix it?
>>12616441probably needs recapped
>>12616358Not that anon, but a lot of CRT parts which are prone to failure (capacitors, resistors, transistors, fuses, diodes, etc) can still be replaced with newly manufactured parts, and even some more specific parts, like certain flyback transformers, can still be purchased new. The biggest problems are the tubes themselves, since they are no longer manufactured. People are still successfully repairing TVs which predate PCBs and use point to point construction
>>12616450Now that looks like a Quantum Computer if I ever seen one.I know that they're prone do imminent death due to natural reasons of usage, but it would have been a nice piece of history to own one, a professional one, when it breaks I can just keep it as door stopper
>>12616441Have you tried tactically hitting the device?>>12616386It looks like some weird bnc connection but they are flat and I don't know what they are
>>12616403>what kind of adapter would it need to attach to it regular consumer electronics to Video IN?Just a BNC to phono adapter.
>>12616495Never seen them, thanks!
>>12616475>hitting the deviceTo add, I mean hitting the side and/or top of the unit. Please do not hit the glass, and I am not responsible if you break your shit
>>12616441That's probably interference in the video signal and has nothing to do with the CRT itself.
This thread seems full of well-meaning newbs.I have owned about dozens of CRTs over the last 35 years. Of all different types. Ask me anything about CRTs.
>>12616558When attaching a 4:3 console to a 16:9 rare CRT does it stretch the image by default or it renders with black bars as in modern TVs?
>>12616565They have different video settings to stretch or letterbox, to get widescreen content to display right you have to get the game set to widescreen mode then get the right mode on your TV.
>>12616558whats your current top 3 fave models
>>12616565If it's a TV will have a variety of options to pillarbox, stretch, or zoom the image.If it's a monitor like a GDM-FW900 it will have those options too, or you can adjust the screen raster manually. It's better to adjust the raster.
>>12616631Don't look at models. Look at what they actually are. Look at the >current condition This is most important. You don't want to waste your money on a CRT with so many hours on it the screen has dimmed or has burned in. This is a concern for professional grade CRTs. You don't want something that might harbor pests, or has been dropped and now has a faulty flyback. >original qualityThis is the next one. You want a CRT with a good power supply in it that won't bloom too much on bright scenes. This is 1. annoying2. affects image quality in the brightest portions of the imageThis means avoiding brands that are the cheapest no-name brands that cut corners during manufacturing. However, every CRT has some level of blooming and automatic brightness limiting. On extremely bright scenes you should see it kick in. If it doesn't, that means it's either a very old CRT or it's not of good quality. >Screen sizeIf I had to pick between a 19" composite-only television and a 12" RGB PVM I'd pick the 19" composite CRT every time. For comfortable gaming imho 19" is the lower end cutoff. I would consider the 21"-27" sizes the "golden range" for an even better experience.If you have the room, there is little reason to not go as big as possible with the 32" and larger units as long as you consider the previous concepts beforehand. Avoid rear projection CRT televisions until you're extremely well acquainted with normal CRTs.>screen typeThis doesn't actually matter that much. Shadow Mask/Aperture Grille/Dot Mask are all completely fine for all purposes. Just get a good CRT regardless of the screen mask type. >inputsThis isn't as important as you think it is. It's great to have component or rgb, but screen size and condition are much more important. Even RF is a consideration if everything else about the CRT seems a match for your needs. >dot pitch/slot pitchDon't worry about this.
>>12616319fpbp
I've adjusted my screens geometry as best as I could through the service menu but I still cant get straight lines on things like message boxes or black bars in mode 7 scenes, there's always a bit of distortion.its not noticeable in most content so i live with it and enjoy the tv very much because its great otherwise but im curious about what's causing it.its a toshiba 14af45.
>>12616652Got any speakers close to it?
>>12616558how bad is the flicker when attaching a console meant for a 15khz CRT TV, to a 31khz high end CRT monitor?
>>12616652its part of the charm.also dont worry about things you have no control over, its wasted energy
>>12616680I do but they're magnetically shielded, and this happens even if theyre off but i suppose i could try moving them out to see if it makes a difference
>>12616728Yeah it doesnt really worry me anymore just thought i might as well inquire about it while theres a crt thread up
>>12616652This affect should be less apparent with lower brightness, I mean the distortion itself won't be as strong. You can also scale the picture up so that the edges are cut off slightly, this was very common back then and developers didn't put important stuff on the edges of the picture.
>>12616724A 31khz CRT cannot display a 15Jhz signal.
>>12616330>>12616319this the go to for N64 and Wii? I ask cause my local savers has a decent LCd with component and S-video I thought about picking up
>>12616325Cope. Panasonic, Ikegami and JVC also had their own versions of "pro video monitors". So what if Sony came up with the name/abbreviation?
>>12616358My 27" Trinitron ProFeel is from 1989 and still seems to work perfectly, colours and brightness are excellent.
>>12616403>>12616410I even have a ViewSonic (American company) PC CRT monitor from the year 2000 that was made in Japan. Maybe they rebadged stuff like how some Dell CRTs had the Trinitron label.
>>12616558How do I shot web
>>12616556Really? I'm using OEM cables.
>>12616724No difference at all unless the console was sending an interlaced signal, which is rare. If you are sending a 224/240p signal at 60hz then line doubling to 448/480p at 60hz will result in the same level of flicker. going from 480i to 480p will have a minor psychological effect of seeming less flickery even though the screen is still refreshing 60 times a second regardless.
>>12616652Have you used the service menu to reduce overscan as much as possible? This is an issue that you run into when you try to "recover" factory overscan.
>>12616856OEM cables can easily be crap.Tell me what cables and what device you're using for your source.
>>12616313>Post your CRT setupPicrel is my ViewSonic E70f+sb, a bit dim without cranking up the contrast but I think it still looks fine
>>12616808just about any CRT with composite will look fine.S-video, to my eye, is just as good as RGB, despite what the autists who wasted their money will tell you
>>12616810When people say PVM, they're talking about Sony monitors.Yes, other manufacturers made professional-grade monitors as well. They're not called PVMs, they're called monitors.
Sony made a line-up of monitors called CVM. They are almost identical to the PVM lineup but usually lack the RGB inputs. They have TV tuners in them. They're still of very high quality.
>>12616946Interesting. They must be super rare and expensive.
>>12616779yeah ive noticed the distortion fades away as the screen does during blackouts and transitions>>12616876i just have it reduced to the point of not having the hud cut off in games
>>12616939yeah but is an LCD good for wii and N64 or just a CRT with S-video?
>>12616939>S-video, to my eye, is just as good as RGBi dont use rgb because im not a fag but s video definitely does not look as good as component on my tv but its not that far behind
>>12616949>yeah ive noticed the distortion fades away as the screen does during blackouts and transitionsThis is what I warned about in >>12616639You're probably at the limit of quality for that CRT, and the factor settings probably used an aggressive amount of overscan. I don't think it's a capacitor issue. It's just how the CRT is.
>>12616369On the other hand, for unserious gaming, 9 inches is enough
>>12616879It's just a normal nintendo multi out composite, have to only use one speaker cable because the set is mono.
>>12616443Yep
>>12616967>>12616879That amount of noise is normal for a composite video cable displaying that test pattern.Nothin' wrong with your CRT or cables.
>>12616652Geometry like that is fairly typical of a flat screen TV. The sides generally suffer a fair bit, you can improve it but it's going to take some electrical know how - if I were you I'd actually just scan the sides out and accept some cut off. Knock the contrast and brightness down a fair whack, play in the dark and that won't be too much of an issue. You can see it in your picture where the top half is blooming outwards, which is causing that bowing.From that pic I think you've got a pretty decent telly tho, your minimap looks nice and square, so your corner geometry is actually pretty solid for a flat screen.>>12616313>Did you guys get the chance to find any of these for sale at a decent price today?I refuse to pay the prices people are charging for these things unless the unit has been serviced and calibrated. The photos I've seen posted around of 14"ers for sale around my area have been disgusting - convergence issues warped geometry the fullshebang - but they want insane money for them just because they are PVMs. I don't understand why people suck these things off so hard unless they are the massive 21"ers. If I ever got one of those I'd consider myself incredibly lucky. No 800TVL count 14" PVM is worth the money I've seen charged for them. What's the point in spending all that money for something that tiny?
>>12617026No it's notComposite doesn't cause wiggly lines
>>12617054>Composite doesn't cause wiggly linesIt does.
>>12617105No, it really doesn't
>>12617105I think your mistaking Anon's problem with dot crawl
>>12617130you're*
>>12617107It does if the signal is noisy.>>12617130I'm not.
>>12617139>It does if the signal is noisy.No, it's literally a voltage issue
>>12616874i heard that because the phospors decay faster on high end 31khz CRT monitors, the flicker is worse.
>>12616313Here's a video that emphasizes why you'd want the BVMs for your professional use: https://youtu.be/WbUGcCyai90I live in the middle of nowhere, so there are no PVM/BVM monitors available within a 100km radius. There was one Craigslist posting a couple years ago featuring a medical PVM which I wanted, but the seller was so offended I tried bargaining for $100USD less that they raised the price over $200USD of their asking price and yet still sold away from me. They are that high in demand, as it has been dry here for years.Here is my setup, but I don't recommend the brand as no one has the knowledge nor ability to RGB mod it. I would recommend you go for more popular brands with widely available schematics such that RGB mods could easily be made.Just know that the price for the professional monitors are not for mere mortals like me, and only reserved for the masters of the universe. One day, I hope to have enough for a place so I can house some PVM/BVM monitors to play my games.
>>12617330looks comfy
>>12616808I'm definitely a fan for Wii. SHARP models are typically awesome. I'd pick up a cheap set with S-Video and Component to try out for sure. Not every 15khz LCD will support 240p, but the ones that do actually look pretty damn good. Not a great example pic, but basically no lag.
i use my copy of kendo rage instead of 240p suite.
>>12616441>Can I fix it?try turning down contrast and brightness and see if that affects it
>>12616321Some PVMs have shorter persistence phosphors than consumer TVs. Interlaced video looks gross and distracting when it's easy see the fields alternate.
>>12616313PVMs are the worst displays for retro games. Retro games were designed with the artifacts you get from consumer CRTs in mind. With a PVM you get none of the artifacts and you might as well just be using a cheap LCD. PVMs are for consoom brained performative morons.
>>12618040>artifacts you get from consumer CRTs in mindYou're misusing words to fake knowledge you don't have.Which 'artifacts' do you get from a consumer CRT that happens to have RGB output? Enlighten me. Cables =/= displays.
>>12618226No. I’m not playing along with your feigned ignorance. If you want to you can reply to this post saying you accept my concession and that you win.
>>12618040Pro monitors are typically built well and display a good picture, regardless of the input type. That said, they were an easy choice when prices topped out at maybe a few hundred 10+ years ago, nowadays I would definitely say that, unless you are rich, they are not worth paying a huge premium for, and you're better off getting a regular consumer set, either one with RGB or moddable for RGB, if you want that option.
Would a NEC PM-3071A be worth it?I don’t know much about NEC.
Got a new CRT PVM-14N5U but theres a slight taper on the right side of the image.Any way to fix this?
>>12616348kys CRT shill
>>12618395service menu adjustments maybe
>>12618395You might just have it too bright
>>12618459>>12618482I discovered how to get to the service menu. I adjusted some settings so its a little better now. Not perfect because idk wtf half these settings do but certainly not as bad as before
>>12618486could just need a slight yoke adjustment
>>12618490Im too scared to open it up desu
>>12617191That is true in the technical sense but the effect is very mild.
>>12618040>PVMs are the worst displays for retro games. RetroThere are a half dozen types of PVMs of very different image types. You don't know what you are talking about. Lurk more.
>>12618395quit underscanning the picture fucktard
>>12618629What does that mean. How do I undo that
>>12616319Agree with this. I have a 32" from late 90s / early 2000s in decent shape and it's miles better than anything I played on at the time I had these consoles as a kid. RGB what? Also a bigger screen is better than some imaginary or almost imaginary picture quality boost from these overpriced mini screens.
>>12616319OP utterly fucked up and is on suicide watch now
>>12618629If you played a PS2 you’d know it’s not underscanned
crt cultist trannies are the literal living poster child of "I will never start a family"
>>12618240rgb is performative bs you dont need more than s video for retro
>>12619445Nah, for 480i, RGB is a huge improvement
>>12619448you're killing transparency effects and intended blurring for muh sharp pixels. you might as well emulate on an oled.
>>12619445You're just an ignorant idiot who doesn't know squat about this subject. Unfortunately too many of your types on the board these days.
The way Americans treat RGB as some kind of venereal disease is funny
>>12619452At 480i?Brother, no
>>12619445Need more? No. Is it nice to have? I think so, and this is coming from somebody who grew up using RF even for the N64 and probably the PlayStation.
So I have a Sony Trinitron 17sf multiscan monitor and I was trying to check how my N64 looks on it but all I got were static and wavy lines and you could just barely make out the menu for the game I was running. Im guessing picrel is the reason but then again it could be the cheap converter I have, any thoughts?
>>12620321nigga you missing pins
>>12620321How are you trying to connect the N64 to it?
Wanna see something really stupid?https://retroldtech.com/Niggers be making fake LCD-based PVMs now.
>>12620363N64>composite cables>converter>monitor
>>12620376To do this properly you do this: https://youtu.be/qXrn4MqY1WoFor /vr/ purpose you'd need-a 240hz or better LCD-a 240hz or better projector-a PC source running CRT Beam Simulator + BFI-smoked glass overlay would be good and enhance the feel-an appropriate housing (MDF or plywood)I'm confident that the result could be impressive. Cost would be like $2000.
>>12617386Thanks. I am saving up to have someone try to RGB mod and maybe recap them so they can last for many years to come. Playing the games is comfy and truly a joy in life for me.>>12620376That's what everyone wants these days. I'm glad someone took up the mantle to hand make the tech. They've moved on from LCD to OLED PVMs now and when I win that Powerball, I am looking to get the PVMs: https://youtu.be/w-9Tyi_mvNQ
>>12616319/threadfrom experience, playing over composite on a 32" is way comfier than playing on meticulously calibrated RGB on the freshest 13"/20" PVM and its not even close
>>12620426>I'm glad someone took up the mantle to hand make the tech. They didn't, you fucking idiot.
>>12618040I agree with most of this post, but what artifacts are you talking about that PVM's do not have? A PVM is a type of CRT so you should get the same sort of blurring effect, unless it just way less pronounced on a PVM. This is the sort of criticism leveled against playing on a flat screen with no shader, but honestly who cares. PVM's are just ridiculous to me, I would say used CRT if you really want one or just go the flatscreen and scaler route.
>>12620474Lurk more.
>>12616558I have a few in storage, how often should I use them to avoid dry joints and capacitors?
meanwhile, laser Vectrex
>>12620621still a blurry proof of concept
>>12620447This.Albeit a good Trinitron with Component input looks incredible connected to a wii for retro media playback (HQ h.264 480p)No need for Tv Station Hardware Perfection, but Component looks great
>>12620616Don't worry about such things. Sell them.
>>12620653The wii gets tricky because if you have an HD CRT like a PC Monitor, you can get 480p out of the wii, with the warmth of CRT, yet it will lack scanlines, those look best in 480i CRT TV.
>>12620662>if you have an HD CRT like a PC Monitor, you can get 480p out of the wii, with the warmth of CRT, yet it will lack scanlinesMost any CRT PC monitor will show fine scanlines in 480p mode.
>>12620665Oh that is great to hear.I was keeping 240p retro out of my PC Monitor because I heard they dont produce scanlines because they are HD, but it makes sense that in 480p mode it should have enough space between lines to be slightly visible.. will try it, later, because I have had a xbox360E with A Bad Avatar connected to it, HD games on a compact CRT feels so weirdly retro.futuristic, the neat clear images and legibility of fine text, it feels absurd, specially after playing PSOne in a CRT TV for months and expecting CRT warmth to come with blunt edges, only to find radioactive HD caressing your pupil's cones. Love CRTs man!
picked up one of these little cuties and plugged it into my Widescreen EDTV so I can mess around with 480p ps5/switch/shit out of my PC. absolutely mindblowing shit - PS5 games are absolutely not meant to display text at this res but since it's progressive scan it's still legible. Please keep caring about PVMs and completely ignoring these things that were even less abundant because they were gigantic and cost the equivalent of an 8k 85" TV these days, so basically no one owned them but rich cunts. >>12620676you can use super resolutions in retroarch to get a 120hz 240p signal into your monitor and then use BFI to bring black out the extra frames to get the motion clarity back. It'll be fairly dark but in a lights off gaming sesh it gets an interesting look.
>Another month of "CRT/CRT monitor flippers fucking my life right up so I can't get anything but absolute trash for the worst-ever eBay-ass prices" (if these cunts will even respond)Living in a major multi-city location with these people is atrocious. I just know it'd be better in some bum-fuck nowhere states down south or around mid-US where people probably wouldn't give that much of a fuck. I cannot find anything. I just can't. I can't believe this shit was being tossed out on curbs for so long, and now I can't even find a decent one to keep and use privately without some intent to flip hard like these cunts. Damn it.
>>12621170At some point you should stop worrying and enjoy the vidya you already have
>>12621170i recently lucked out and got a free 27" tau from outside a thrift store that resells crap it finds in abandoned storage units. It was broken so they let me take it free to get rid of it and I was able to fix it with a little bit of solder and now it works great. I think we're starting to get to the point where you really need to be able to figure out how to fix this shit if you want to have anything good
>>12621314Replacing caps is a bare minimum for owning a CRT“Fixing” them is a whole different kettle of fish
>>12621170I literally found atleast 20 behind my local Goodwill this weekend. I threw in as many into my vehicle that i could, but i left a bunch. May see if they are still there next weekend.
>>12621479everybody in this world strikes gold except me. I paid 120 for my current CRT though, but just a week later a much cheaper one popped up in my area.
>>12621479damn son what state
>>12621496I've never paid more than 30 for a crt and the one time i paid that much, was for a Trinitron.>>12621617Pennsylvania.
>>12621496You just gotta hunt or be patient. I stumble upon them all the time without trying, be it driving and one is out on the curb, or walking around my neighborhood and finding one on a porch with furniture from a house being emptied. I literally, on two occasions, found sets in shopping carts while walking home, one had a big ass trinitron, and the other had 3 sets in it, including a tiny trinitron and two other small sets, including a neat see through blue plastic one like an iMac. One time i found one outside an abandoned bank. It may be worth driving around industrial parks and keeping an eye out if they have some on the side of the street or back near the dumpster.But i will say this, i have never gotten lucky with pvms. Only two i have are both black and white only and one was given to me and the other i found behind a dumpster.
nothing beats a good old game played on a CRT. sucks that photos rarely represent how they actually look in person
>>12621479I might start checking the dumpsters behind mine then, cause I know damn well they dont take them anymore
>>12622330They do "take them", though it may be limited to certain locations. They don't sell them to customers though, they all get picked up by electronics recycling, so its morally just to liberate them from holocaust.
>>12622330>>12622387I don't bother going to my local Goodwills these days, but from a brief search, it does sound like people spot them for sale there now. Goodwill loves money, so I'd be shocked if they weren't aware that CRTs are more generally popular again and that there's people more than willing to pay decent money for them, certainly more than what most of the sometimes literal garbage they try to sell is worth.
>>12622398In my experience atleast, if they are left outside after hours, they are not going to be sold (especially when they leave em out in the rain over night).
>>12622407cringe
>>12622398I would occasionally see one with Rf at the ones I got to but most of the Savers and Goodwills I hit up only have LCD's and monitors no CRT's. Trying to still look for a decent plasma for my Wii
>>12621479>>12621803>I'm getting 1-gorillion monitors and TVs for free outside Goodwills, you just got wait and constantly search bro, drive, live a little--Wow, that's quite a haul, wonder where he lives to find such-->Pennsylvania>Georgia>Alabama>EtcEvery time. It's never a highly populated coastal area because everything is insta-flipped. It's doubly worse that I want CRT monitors more than a CRT TV. The market is just very tapped out here.
>>12622580>It's never a highly populated coastal areaFor context, i do live in a fairly urbanized area, not out in the woods. I actually find crts far more often in cities than i do out in the country.
>>12622602Yeah, not in major coasts or top biggest pop concentrations where enough flippers and marks exists to make money off of.
>>12622807All I can say is that I live about an hour away from NYC, so if you are unfortunately trapped in some unescapable megacity for your entire life, then that would be unfortunate indeed. I can only speak from my own experience and having lived in a highly populated city area, I most commonly find them on street corners, front porches and just sitting out on the sidewalk. After that, it's when im traveling through the suburbs where they are often left out in the front of driveways or in front of houses in developments with big FREE signs on them. I find them the least out in the country, on occasion I have gotten some from a thrift store out in Amish country and a random set next to a clothing donation bin. I can't speak for the absolute most dense hives of human concentration, but just like with the claims that state it's impossible to find retro games for cheap prices anymore, you will most likely solve your problems with the slightest bit of learning how and where to look for things (like maybe taking a day trip outside of your city) and not simply relying on Craigslist listings offering a free set that they will hold for you until you are good and ready to grab it. Or alternatively, just start asking people you know or meet if they have old tvs or computer monitors they want to get rid of.(in the case of pc stuff, local libraries are always recycling old tech and plenty will still find crt monitors in storage) Just asking harms no one and i have gotten multiple that way from shops that were closing and people whom were moving. Every single anon here has the capacity to get a cheap or free crt and i would bet on someone living in bum-fuck nowhere having far less options than someone surrounded by millions of possible normies looking to throw away old junk.
>>12621479That's what the county recycling place near me is like. Pallets of crts just sitting there.
>>12622807>>12622838I've found CRTs for anons in areas where they claim they can't find anything, and a 5 minute search on facebook marketplace turned up like 10+ good options. Stop spoonfeeding people and just tell them to lurk more and educate themselves. They are literally just typing PVM into craigslist and then coming here to complain.
>>12616450And the tube will survive basically for centuries if maintained correctly.The "will someone start producing CRTs again cryingemoji?" meme question that some people spam here and in /g/ should realistically be replaced with "how to make masses interested with knowledge about repairing legacy hardware?".Teach kids how to use soldering iron and how to replace broken parts, bully hobos ruining old TVs for scrap metals, create initiatives where people will be able to give away old junk. We have companies printing PCBs on demand so very often even gutted TV could be saved if the tube is somehow still fine.
>>12617330Is that controller any good
Can I put an ND filter over my CRT for better contrast?
>>12623274lol
>>12623576lol because it’s obvious and everyone is doing it? Or…?!
>>12623776no
>>12623274Yes. The CRT in the OP literally has this.
>>12624249Ah is that the plastic sheet screwed on the outside? I assumed it was a screen protector or something. That looks like a quite light filter, maybe not even ND3?
So, around 10 y ago i got (for free from a casting company) 1371qm, 1440qm. I played mostly the former because it got scart. Never got around using bnc's but I'll eventually buy breakouts or rgb component from retroaccess or rgcablescouk or others. I'll will eventualy buy high quality cables because i've no high end scarts, some decent oem ypbpr's, ogxbox scart but i heard it's shit. BUT: Fuck, my pvm's got no osd and calibration is done only by potentiometers
>>12624298It's a tinted glass screen. It's real glass. It's pretty dark. I have no idea what the different ND levels are.
>Found an Xbox 360 for dirt cheap>It's the E model with no AV portDid I fuck up? I wanted it to play og Xbox games on a CRT. Apparently it has a different kind of port for composite, the one that looks like an audio jack, but I'm worried the image quality will be shit.
>>12624612>audio jack,If you're gonna buy a cable for that make sure it's the right pinout. I think the 360 needs the same type as the Raspberry Pi which is not the most common type. Don't know about quality.
