Oops I just blew up that first Romulan ship, is that bad?
I rented this once and spent most of the weekend reading all the autistically detailed entries on the ship's computer.
>>12618706Same. Also autistically visited every planet.
you're fucked m8
I can't even imagine being at computers.
>>12618747It's weird. I've never been a trekkie but I still remember some of the random tidbits from all that stuff. Like how a handheld phaser can (somehow) cause heavy geological disruptions at max power.
>>12618462Nah, just send their families and government some "I'm berry berry sorry" cards.Galactic crisis averted.
>>12618462They're Romulans so there's a like 98 percent chance they were up to shit
>>1261970298%? More like 100%, Romulans have no honour. But their women are hot.
>>12619726>Romulans have no honour.They're not honor-obsessed like the Klingons are, but I think there is some sort of creed they follow. I don't think the lore of their culture was ever fleshed out to the degree the Klingons were, where the Klingons have their own invented language and all that.Anyway, as their name implies, they are inspired by the Roman empire. Someone got the idea they wanted to make Space Romans, so they made the Romulans. So they have a roughly Roman level of honor, I guess. Not as much as the Klingons, but on the other hand its not like they're Ferengi either.
>>12619726>>12620767Romulans were more honorable in TOS (at least the Romulan men, like in Balance of Terror) while the Klingons were the real conniving bastards. Then they finally flipped their characters completely in TNG.
>>12618706>I rented this once and spent most of the weekend reading all the autistically detailed entries on the ship's computer.>>12618747>Same. Also autistically visited every planet.Same here. I don't remember much about it anymore, but there was quite a few entries in the computer you could read which was pretty impressive because that probably took up quite a chunk of space on the cartridge in addition to the actual game itself.I remember this being one of the better Star Trek games out at the time that I played back then, but not the best one. That honor would have to go to Starfleet Academy. They ported it to the PC around 5 years later and that PC version differs a lot from the SNES game which I'm talking about. I had a lot of fun with the starship simulator where you could go up against some other starship. It was weird having a WW2 style aerial dogfight as some huge ass battleship sized starship versus some puny science ship (or vice versa). I had a lot of fun even if it was ridiculously unrealistic (not that Star Trek was ever realistic even under the best of circumstances).Definitely play that one if you haven't. It was also on the 32X, I think, but I have no experience with that version and don't know how it differed from the SNES version (if any).
>>12618462Is this Future's Past? That game sucks. Playing far enough into it to see negative diplomatic consequences for your actions would be the real mistake. You should certainly instead be messing around and looking at random stuff until you get tired of it, as other anons have discussed. Then you should play something else.
>>12618747I seem to remember you could even do that in the similar TOS game for the NES? Man I should try playing that game again. It's really fun to visit randomly generated locations in old games that don't really have the memory available to properly do random generation. Of course the fun runs out very quickly as you see how samey the locations are, but it's there, briefly.
For me it's the Star Trek adventure games.Real quality for its time!
>>12620778I never got how klingons were considered honorable when they have cloaking devices and run around ambushing people while they're weak. Pussy shit.
>>12622094This is actually because they fucked up in ST III and reused a romulan warbird with its cloaking device as a klingon bird of prey. Which is understandable, to a degree, since they're both ships with bird names, but klingons never had any cloaking devices up until that point, and it just kinda stuck becuase TNG didn't want to specifically retcon anything TOS-related. So now klingons have cloaking devices even though it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever that they would ever develop such a thing.Also ST III sucked.
>>12622094>I never got how klingons were considered honorable when they have cloaking devices and run around ambushing people while they're weak. Pussy shit.You're right. I always wondered about that dissonance myself. I remember Gene Roddenberry saying something about how the Federation never bothered creating their own cloaking device because they were too honorable to resort to using such a thing (I'm paraphrasing here).Best explanation I can offer is that there's a difference between being obsessed with honor and thinking you're honorable and ACTUALLY being honorable. Maybe after all is said and done the Klingons really aren't honorable, but lack the self awareness to see that. And in contrast, despite not being obsessed with it, maybe the federation are the actual honorable ones.Also might be worth mentioning that Gene Roddenberry served in WW2 in the Pacific and he started daydreaming a lot of the ideas for Star Trek during that time. You know another real life culture that was obsessed with honor? The Japanese. Klingons are no doubt at least partly inspired by them and their code of Bushido. But despite having an honor obsession like the Klingons, the Japanese started the war off with a dishonorable sneak attack at Pearl Harbor. So there's something to think about.Also I should point out that the cloaking technology was created through a collaboration between Romulans and Klingons, which is why they both got it and why they both used some of the same ship designs during the time of TOS (real reason was it was cheaper to reuse those ship models for both instead of making new ones for each). So maybe the less honorable Romulans were the real driving force behind the whole cloaking thing, and the honorable Klingons ended up getting it even though it didn't really suit their honor code?
>>12620840I am now playing that game again. It seems better than Future's Past so far! It's very clunky and basic, but basically good... though there's so little to it, thus far, that I wouldn't actually recommend it to anybody. The dialogue is fun though! But it gets repeated too much - there aren't enough event flags to tell characters that a situation has changed so they should say something new.
>>12622772>Gene Roddenberry saying something about how the Federation never bothered creating their own cloaking device because they were too honorable to resort to using such a thing (I'm paraphrasing here).I think the idea is they have a treaty with the Romulans o algo where they promised not to pursue cloak technology. That Pegasus episode is all about Riker's old captain trying to skirt around that treaty by making a phase shift device that works like a cloak but technically doesn't violate the treaty.
>>12622094It's like how in predator, the alien is supposed to be honor bound but goes around sniping people while invisible. Or how ancient Greece is supposedly an honor based society but Odysseus is a sneaky little cunt praised for his guile.
>>12622858>It's like how in predator, the alien is supposed to be honor bound but goes around sniping people while invisible.The predator alien isn't motivated so much by honor. Its simply a hunter, but it enjoys having a moderate amount of challenge offered by its prey. This same species undoubtedly has WMD far beyond what humans do, so it could completely wipe us out if it so chose to do so. Its sorta "honorable" in the sense that it doesn't do this, but instead hunts down our warriors on an individual basis. And yes it is gay for sniping from stealth which isn't honorable, but you could rationalize that this is offset by the fact that its prey usually outnumbers it, so its more about balancing things out. It has this OP stealth ability, but in exchange its just one alien versus a whole squad of our guys. Maybe it considers that honorable and even.
>>12622868The stealth technology is probably just such an ordinary part of their hunting experience they don't even think about it in terms of it being an unfair advantage. Same as humans not thinking twice about using guns or other weapons to hunt animals. No human hunter stops to think it might not be fair.
>>12622874
can someone red pill me on Star Trek
>>12622847I finished Star Trek 25th Anniversary (NES). It wasn't very good but I basically more or less enjoyed it. The character writing is good, the plot is pretty solid, and the puzzles and (very limited) combat are adequate. It just really really REALLY needs polish. UI design in the menus isn't very good and the programming for them apparently sucks in a way that adds lots of small delays between trivial menu actions. Movement of Kirk during away missions is also unnecessarily stiff. Most importantly, the game needs its word count doubled. There are many points in it where characters repeat obsolete text in ways that make no sense, and at certain points it's annoyingly easy to lose track of what the next step in your main quest is.Also, I seem to have softlocked myself near the end of the game by failing to perform a mildly obscure (but required) action that can only be done during a limited opportunity window. I was trusting in console-game friendliness and only keeping one latest save state and one latest password, so I was stuck for good until I copied a slightly earlier password off GameFAQs and tried again. In the very unlikely case that anybody reading this plays this game in the near future: EXAMINE THE ROBBERS.I guess this was one of those weird Ultra-published ports of a PC adventure game, maybe? Except it appears to be completely different from (and probably greatly inferior to) the PC version. I dunno.
>>12623609yeah
>>12623609The actor who played the original captain in the pilot episode said in an old magazine interview that Star Trek was based on RAND Corporation predictions. They're an NGO think tank that have been around forever and have played a part in major US policies.Fast forward to TNG era and Rick Berman, the main guy after Gene Roddenberry, started his career making films for the UN.There's more if you look into it. Old Star Trek is pretty based regardless though.
>>12624942>Except it appears to be completely different from (and probably greatly inferior to) the PC version.Yeah there were a handful of Trek games to carry the 25th Anniversary name and most of them were completely different games. Outside of the usual contrarians it's widely agreed that the DOS version was the best one.
>>12624992the original guy wasn't Shatner?>>12624963prove it
>>12624996Point and click adventure seems like one of the only genres that actually fit what Star Trek is about and on the kind of budget that fits the Star Trek fan niche. Away missions, solving dilemmas/puzzles, talking to characters, stories without much violence etc are all covered. Star Trek isn't really about war and shooting things even though there are Star Trek games solely devoted to that. Which feel like games with a Star Trek skin applied (platforming for example is the last thing that comes to mind for Star Trek and yet you see it in that DS9 game).Only thing better would be a full scale, episodic, Morrowind-tier RPG that can somehow fit in a variety of gameplay and keep things balanced and interesting.
>>12623609Yes
>>12625014No, it was the guy who played the living roomba known as Pike.
Cardassians>humans=vulcans>romulans>>klingons
>>12623609Gul Dukat had a hasperat fever
>>12625094((((ferengi female)))) hands typed this post
