Beat em ups are the worst genre of all time.Seeing praise for them is like boomers praising ancient unfunny comedy.
>>12618769Survival horror is way worse. Beat em ups can be fun for a few minutes. Survival horror is pure anti fun.Which other genre is praised for having shitty janky controls to 'elevate tension?
>>12618773>Which other genre is praised for having shitty janky controls to 'elevate tension?Beat em ups
>>12618769they were hyper optimized for arcade novelty. seeing a shiny new beat em up in an arcade was like getting a hit of crack. entirely different thing playing them on your dull computer monitor 30 years after the fact
>play bmup>get filtered>make a seething thread
>>12618769viewtiful joe and god hand were good
>>12618769I don't see how you can say this when adventure "games" exist.
>>12618794There's reason to play Grim Fandango There's reason to play Sam & MaxThere's reason to play Day of the TentacleThere's no reason to play Final Fight when Double Dragon exists.
>>12618773Yeah, the horror in the early games were the controls, and by the time they got the controls right the games just turned into FPS or TPS games with zombies. We had a name for that before the genre existed, we called it Doom.
>>12618817What does that even mean?
>>12618773here's my evolved take on the issue. tank controls are conducive to designing enemy encounters that focus on running around and being chased by enemies. it demands execution and decision making in a way that a simple camera dependent movement system doesn't really allow. you can change direction to fast for anything but spastic attack patterns to be a challenge.
>>12618860>it demands execution and decision making in a way that a simple camera dependent movement system doesn't really allow.I say this in the context of something specifically chasing you, not in general.
>>12618769you punch the guy and then you grab him and throw him into the other guy. then you pick up his knife and stab him. what’s not to love
>>12618769Do you really have to make this thread every couple of months?
>>12618874he gets filtered every couple of months. give him a few years, he'll come around
Final Fight literally RAPES, DISMEMBERS, BRUTALISES AND SHITS on modern games with their nonstop "mechanics", which are a crutch
>>12618908Go to bed, Mork
Does anyone else have the issue of not being able to properly align your character with the spacing in the games? I feel like a retard, but I'm always "off" from the enemy
>>12618914it's just part of the genre, you have to stare at the enemies' feet to understand your relation in space to them, which is indeed as retarded as it sounds
>>12618826the way to fix it is to simply not make guns so readily available. the only thing RE1 and 2 got right was you had severely limited ammo so you couldn't turn the game into a shooting gallery. RE4 is pure casual because of that change in philosophy. Even with a cop protag, realistically cops should only have 2-3 mags for their pistol on them. that's <40 bullets. make it a narrative element that they're trying to get to a police station so they can access the armoury or something.
OP outed ximself as having no friends
>>12618769A lot can go wrong in a beat em up, but at least they don't purposefully waste your time like some games are designed to do.Beat em ups are basically survival-marathons and are saved by the fact that any decent beat em up can be finished in well under an hour (whether its worth spending money on a game like that is another question though). The worst genre is anything open-world/walking-sim, which reduces gameplay density to almost nothing and has you wandering around in a 3d spaces looking for action. Double that if the game includes any procedurally generated spaces.
>>12618987you must hate RPGs
>>12618769You know what? Yeah, fighting 200 bulletsponges with the same moveset the whole game sounds fucking retarded
>>12618773Survival horror games have finally incorporated survival mechanics, but most of these games are not retro and cannot be discussed here
>>12618991Linear RPGs like Earthbound are great. RPGs that fill up a quest log with a checklist of things to do spending minutes running through vistas back and forthing like the game is a job are not fun.
>>12619020You better not be implying what I think you're implying, Death Stranding was amazing>character is named Die Hardman>real name is John Mcclane
>>12619020>RPGs that aren't RPGsso no, you don't like them. thanks for confirming you have no taste. >nb4 low IQ black-white argument of "you must love Death Stranding"
Actually the worst genre of all time are those fucking stupid LE ARTISTE performance art games about "dude the nature of videogames dude what IS a videogame I deliberately wasted your time i'm so profound"
>>12619020Death Stranding is a rpg now?
>>12619187No it's the kind of walking sim/open world genre I was talking about initially. The only worse games than that are monetized mobile games with paid time-gate removals and "do anything you want" slop games that are being pushed because AI allows them to exist.
>>12618769beat em ups are a great retard filter. mouthbreathers glance at them and think they've figured it all out, then they continuously walk into enemies and mash the basic combo.>lol why is there only one attack?the enemy gets knocked down and the player waits for them to get up so they can do the combo again>omg enemies are so spongey and combat is so braindead, you just gotta knock em down and wait...they play like this until they reach the first boss, then get their shit handed to them>omg this game is so busted, it just exists to eat quartersand then the retard moves on from the game, having learned nothing and actively dumber for even trying.
Zoomers getting filtered by final fantasy tactics and now final fight? Lol the most pathetic generation
>>12618997that's why Streets of Rage 2 is the best beat em up, enemies have different movesets and the game keeps rotating the combinations of enemies constantly. not only do they have different move sets, but they even differ in details like some enemy stands up faster than others.
>>12619000Are you talking about crafting mechanics? I agree that's pretty damn cool and fits great for horror games.
>>12618826Haha, did the nips see the movie "Wanted" and some Bollywood action movies and said "Yes, this is what we need."
>>12619437SoR 2 is probably the the best of the genre. But there are so many different games in the genre. Capcom did great with Shadow over Mystara, which you can get in and credit pump, but getting good at collecting and using items is hard but obviously rewarding. But on the other hand you are doing Street Fighter II moves and juggling an inventory while fighting bosses that fill the screen which has its problem when you only have a joystick and 6 buttons.
>>12619437I mean that YOUR characters will have the same moveset the whole game, no progression sucks
>>12618769I'll have you know I love Comix Zone and M*A*S*H. Suck it, chump.
>>12618775If you had a consistent big arcade, it must've been crazy seeing a new Capcom beat'em up every few months, just banger after banger. Perfect multiplayer games.
>>12618914Play one game for a few hours instead of jumping from game to game, each is a little different so you have to learn.
>>12618817>adventure games>playlol>DD > FFlol
>>12618769>Seeing praise for them is like boomers praising ancient unfunny comedy.Kentucky Fried Movie and Animal House kick ass. Boomer comedy > modern comedy and Final Fight is great.
>>12619453No, they saw Equilibrium
>>12619207t. didn't play it
>>12619485Nigga the first fucking Double Dragon on NES has a progressione system and if that's what you're looking for there's an entire subgenere going into RCR and beyond
>>12618769Can’t imagine being so miserable you can’t find enjoyment from Punisher, Avengers, Knights of the Round, Battletoad and Double Dragon, TMNT 2, 3, and Time, Streets of Rage 2, Alien vs Predator, X-men Arcade. Such a fun genre but you need friends and probably needed to have at least once played in an actual arcade with friends. So much fun to be had w this genre.
>>12619996Playing X-Men in the arcade and having someone randomly join in was great.
>>12620003Yea I was able to play it a few times growing up in the 90s at a place called Diamond Jim’s. It was so fun having that experience.
>>12618769kys
>>12618874/vr/ is just 3 schizos posting the same threads on a loop and harassing everyone else until they leave.
>>12618870>stab himweapons really elevate these games. anyway like someone already said this was an Arcade format.
>>12619792Adding it to the list. LOL.
>>12619751Double Dragon is better than Final Fight. FF1 removed cool things like weapons that litter the arena that you can continuously use and pits to throw your enemies into.
>>12619792God this movie was KINO
Every genere where the gameplay is bad is automatically shit.That includes>survival horror>jrpg>rts>tbs>vn>any walking simulator>any game I don't likeDon't @ me
SHUMPS get a lot of hate here, but holy shit, beat 'em ups are infinitely worse
>>12619913this isnt twitter. You don't have to. pretend it's a good "game" here
>>12622859You can still make great beat em ups (as Streets of Rage 4 proved), but I don't think you can make a 'great' SHMUP.
>>12624663What about Sin and Punishment?it's a rail shooter but rail shooters are a subgenre of shumps
