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Why is FF8 not as popular/critically acclaimed as FF7?
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>>12620719
because you didn't give Nomura tribute
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>>12620719
real knowers rank it above 7
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>>12620719
Rinoa is less goonbait than Tifa but hotter
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>>12620719
Spoony
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>>12620719
It took itself too seriously. But really there was no heart to it.
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because it's not as good.
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>>12620719
The gameplay was way too experimental and broken. Triple Triad however is still the best minigame in the entire franchise.
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>>12620719
>WAY worse story
>WAY worse characters
>mostly worse music
>stupid ass gameplay system that actively discourages you from playing the game
>shitty smudgy graphics
>you're the main girl's rebound
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Always felt too all over the place with the story and gameplay. Best soundtrack in the series th0ugh
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>>12620719
Everyone's first FF is their favorite FF (same as with Zelda and most other series), and FF8 was nobody's first FF.
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>>12621975
it was my first ff besides ffiv on the ds, which i hated and dropped. love viii
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It's anti-fun.
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>>12620719
they cut half the laguna story out so the result is a mess that takes like 8 play thrus and 3 video essays to understand
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>>12620719
It attracts only the smartest and sexiest people
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>>12620719
Quisits is best girl, most important to mention about FF8. The junction system at the time was not well-articulated or many of fanbase like myself weren't well-versed in Microsoft Excel gameplay loop of Draw and Junction. As an adult I can tolerate it, back as a child I hated it. The orphanage twist makes no fucking sense to send people into a coma like Rinoa, lol.

The main problem isn't really the gameplay per se, it just has no "narrative" hook or heart to it. IMO that's why the Sorceress being a future Rinoa captivated people to headcanon it so hard or that Squall is dead after the failed assassination in Disc 1, people wanted to draw (heh) out of the barebones shitty plot FF8 had. Wasn't one of the rival Balamb Garden academdies led by Cid's estranged ex wife? A shitty primary villain, the primary human level rival to Squall was a literally fucking SIMP who gave up on a character arc just to drink Sorceress bath water, and your big reveal is an orphanage coma and child soldier program worldwide. Felt lacking a punch.

Also Quistis should've been the main love interest or optional romance choice. Rinoa isn't even in the top 10 Nomura raven hair girls like FF14 Gaia, Lulu FFX, and Neo The World Ends With You Shoko.
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>>12621984
You hated it because you played the hardest version of the game for whatever reason.
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>>12621994
Quistis niggers are submissive faggits
>>12621997
didn't know. i got softlocked in the endgame because my squad was too shitty to even do the random encounters, let alone the boss
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>>12621994
Quistis is probably the best written character in the game next to Squall.
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>>12621975
8 was my first actually, unless we count Mystic Quest. Still kinda indifferent to it and prefer 6.
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Gameplay of FF8 discourse falls into the people who hate it and the people who love it. The problem is the people who love it run into the issue that discussing leads you into the card game and how actively avoidining combat is the best way to play the game for a good chunk, making your setup pointless and all the meaty discussion about how to best "break" the game through triple triad.

The plot as mentioned falls apart without a core pillar. Laguna just isn't it as a mystery man that makes or breaks the game. The Sorceress is so underdeveloped that people have headcanon the fringe theories Squall died in their first encounter or that she's a future Rinoa.

TBQH the only lane that FF8 operates on is the slow burner comfy game because you can disable all encounters without a cheat modifier and focus on the story at your own pace and play the card game. The big debates about FF7's girls Aerith, Yuffie, Tifa and FF10's Yuna, Rikku, Lulu doesn't exist with FF8 which is a fascinating mystery because it is even set in high school to a graduating class of 18 year olds. It has all the elements of a potential SquareEnix style Persona game with romance, turn based mechanics, JRPG mini games and SquareEnix runs away from it. I know about Rinoa and Quistis but who was the third girl from Kingdom Hearts?
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>>12622059
I love it. I’ve played it so many ways.
My favorite way to play is to not avoid combat and to not refine cards.
There’s hating the game, and breaking the game, but the fun is found elsewhere. The story largely sucks, doing the carding, refining, and low level stuff makes the game JUST the story.
When enemies level up they gain new abilities and drop different items / steals, keeps things slightly fresh.
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>>12622059
>The plot as mentioned falls apart without a core pillar.
>The big debates about (romance) doesn't exist with FF8 which is a fascinating mystery
The story is about the Squall and Rinoa romance, as the title art suggests.

For the gameplay, I enjoyed playing it normally.
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>>12620719
I played it when it came out and thought it was fucking boring by comparison, really disappointing.
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>>12621975
It was mine. Specifically the demo disc.
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>>12620719
Less marketing budget
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>>12622059
>The big debates about FF7's girls Aerith, Yuffie, Tifa and FF10's Yuna, Rikku, Lulu doesn't exist with FF8 which is a fascinating mystery because it is even set in high school to a graduating class of 18 year olds

That's simple. All the girls in FF7 and FFX are attractive and have good personalities, so even though there is a main one, the other one's aren't bad choices per se.

The main girl in FF8 is a hoe that is using Squall as a rebound and doesn't have any real character outside of being the damsel in distress. The other two are hotter than her but barely relevant to the story and aren't fleshed out as well. It's basically a mess of a game and the best part of the game is Triple Triad rather than the story or the combat. It's about Squall and Rinoa's romance, but it's so fucking gay and melodramatic because everyone is a fucking idiot and an annoying one at that.

>I know about Rinoa and Quistis but who was the third girl from Kingdom Hearts?
Selphie
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It looks boring and gay
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>>12622870
Shut up dave you don't know nothing
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R=U
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>>12621975
You're right. FF8 was my first FF and it's my favorite.
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>>12622930
this and squall is dead are both so true that i dont know how people can get filtered in 2026.
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>>12620719
These reasons:
>it wasn't Square's first 32-bit RPG
>it wasn't the first FF on the system
>there wasn't as big a graphical leap over the previous FF
>it wasn't the first FF to have FMVs
>there was less time between the two games for as much excitement to build
All of which added up to less potential for hype. It had nothing to do with the quality of either game. The vast majority of FF7 have never even played it.
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>>12620738
no one makes my dick harder than Quistis.
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>>12622930
Star warses?
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>>12620719
I like the card minigame more than the main game, but 8 is still just about as good as 7 in my opinion (they're both no 9 though). I will say that there was more of a buildup to what 7 was as a communal shared social event, and that leap from 6 may contribute in part to the acclaim that makes 7 more popular.

>>12621975
The first FF I played was 1 and it is not close to my favorite which was Tactics being the 7th (not counting the portable ones) in the series that I played. However, you are right that the first Zelda is my favorite. Then you have series like Street Fighter, and most definitely the first ones I played of the series are not favorites of mine. It's really just on a case by case basis which doesn't necessitate the first being the favorite.
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>>12624890
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This particular version of Eyes on Me really does it for me. Her voice is so hot:
https://youtu.be/vuB5NSuF2U8
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>>12623348
Quistis niggers have mommy issues
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>>12624906
Nothin' wrong with that.



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