Do you recommend this game for someone who has never played MTG? How faithful it is to the original trading card game?The aesthetic looks pretty comfy.
Its fun, but I think the people who appreciate it are those who wish for Magic to be like it again. Its nowhere near representative of what modern Magic is like, but a fun time capsule of what used to be. It might be a bit hard to understand for a person who has never interacted with Magic before, though.
>>12624435What about the world exploration?
>>12624441NOʻOOOOOOOI would NOT reccomend it for new players, it is extremly hard and does nothing to hold your hand.Would reccomend Arena heavily over this.
>>12624441What about it? Just b urself and have fun bro
>>12624441Try the one on one matches first. Once you're good at deck building and the rules, try the exploration.
>>12624428What I do remember that it was positively received and I and my buddies did play that quite a bit. At least back then the computer opponents felt too easy.It's a solid game. From the time before MTG became trannified of course.
>>12624428How do I play this in 2026
>>12624597When they banned cards like Crusade and Jihad, I knew MtG was over.
>>12625172You ever see new magic cards? Lol.
>>12625516>Guy in a frog suit is as strong as a Hill Giant
>>12624428>How faithful it is to the original trading card game?i remember the bigbox version being sold in a book store for some reason. never played it, cause i remembered all that lame overpriced rare cards shilling IRL. did play a clone of MTG, which is not /vr/-aged, which got ported to a Flash game with almost all the features except multiplayer.
>>12625524But he has battery powered springs in his feet and daddy issues
>>12625516I don't play the actual cards. I only played this video game. Many friends played the real cards and spent a lot of money though.
>>12624428I know jack shit about Magic but I've always been kind of curious about this game because of the Sid Meier connection and the open-ended campaign mode >>12624441. Unfortunately I've never gotten the game to run properly; there are multiple repacks for modern systems but they either are full of technical issues or change way too much of the game to match modern Magic I'm sure that's an improvement but I'm more interested in the game as a historical timepiece, warts and allI did recently scrounge together some scrap hardware for a ~1999 period build, so maybe I can finally run the game from an ISO on proper Windows 98. Only question is whether to start with the 1997 base game or skip right ahead to the Duels of the Planeswalker re-release/expansion thing.
>>12624428I recommend the game, because it is of the era in which I did play the original card game, but even though it has introductory videos it doesn't explain the mechanics of the card game well. These days there are beginner sets for the card game which could instruct the mechanics better. I had already been playing the card game before I played the Microprose game, so giving the game a sort of world exploration is more of an expansion to the game that a computer can provide. The cards in the game are just what I remember, but imbalanced and likely no longer part of the game like ante, coin flipping, card flipping, etc. which the game omits, but otherwise it is pretty faithful to the mechanics of the card game in its day.
>>12626441sounds like you should emulate the Dreamcast version if this photo >>12627942 isn't fake.
>>12626396>2008>gigabyte drives costwot? i remembered 32 GB drives were already pretty cheap in early 2000s.
>>12628017The comic was uploaded to the internet online around 2008 but it was originally published in Dragon magazine and the Duelist in the 90s
>>12628010there's no english translation for it
>>12628417And how is this a problem? Every experienced MtG player can recognize cards by their pictures and knows their effects without having to read the text.
>>12628417for real? You'd think wotc would make games in America first before putting them out in japan.
Not retro but the 2009 and 2010 version of MTG for xbox 360 were unmatched for teaching new players to core rules, and they were like $8 when new. They had decent precon decks showing gameplay fundamentals of the colors (blue control deck, green trample deck, white soldier deck with equipment/enchantments and a black graveyard based deck ). Plus more complicated 2/and 3 color decks and limited deckbuilding options. All with great tutorials and handholding early on. The 1997 pc game was not very beginner friendly, it was buggy and it had long abandoned game mechanics like banding and manaburn, and was ante based. A fun game though for fans of that era.
>>12628452Banding was half-cooked bullshit that should have never made it into the game, and was only there to buff up White's weenies. But Manaburn should have never been removed from the game. Use it or pay the price.
>>12628452I have the PC version of the 2009 game here. It suffered from the fact that the Vampire deck that got added in the third expansion is massively overpowered compared to the other decks. It's filled with ridiculously undercosted creates like Child of Night and Vampire Nighthawk and more than 10 cheap removal spells in the forms of Disfigure, Hideous End and Feast of Blood.The other decks have basically no chance of winning except the Green deck if it happens to have an Ascetic Troll AND Blanchwood Armor AND Loxodon Warhammer on the start hand and even then there's chance the vampire deck will still win.
>>12624435You should play Premodern.
>>12624428It's a fun game, but I think it's the best to play it as it's separate thing as something that tries to represent the TCG - the main mechanics may be the same as in first few year or so of the irl game, but the rpg elements make it play pretty differently. The card pool is also pretty incomplete.
>>12628456Banding wasn't just a white thing this game also had>Battering Ram>Helm of Chazuk>Mishra's War Machine>Nalathni Dragon>Timber Wolves>Urza's Avenger
>>12628456Banding was absolutely fine and fun on it's own. It was also not as difficult to understand as people try to make it sound. It was basically two damage redirecting effects stapled together.Banding with others on the other hand was retarded, counterintuitive and dysfunctional piece of shit that 99/100 times did absolutely fucking nothing.
>>12628438Magic seems like it had a decent following in japan in the 90s. If you look at early yugioh it was clearly MTG inspired
>>12630479>it had a decent following in japan in the 90sYep, picrel is a pretty cool nostalgia trip (japan :O).
>>12624428I would not recommend it, although it was a lot of fun in its time.It uses rules that are nearly 30 years old and a lot has changed in the game since then.It's too bad there's not a modern Shandalar though, the underlying gameplay loop was good. Hell, just use the Powered Cube cardset from Arena and you'd still get to play the overpowered nonsense.
>>12630869>It uses rules that are nearly 30 years old and a lot has changed in the game since then.Ante, banding, and manaburn. Ante is important to getting more cards in the campaign, banding is pointless, and manaburn is just fine. Other than the godawful planeswalkers being added in, what's different about modern standard Magic? I know most people play Commander now, but the standard game is still the same gameplay. Or is this something about turn phases that no one paid attention to outside of tournaments?
>>12630878Plus interrupts are gone (but that's not too big a deal).The big issue is combat damage. Learn the Shandalar way and you are going to have a hard time with mtg in 2026.
>>12630878Many other rules changed too.>Regenration works entirely different>Tapped blockers still do combat damage in modern MtG>Tapped artifacts still work in modern MtG so stuff like the popular Meekstone + Icy Manipulator combo don't work anymore>Multiple Goblin Lords or Lords of Atlantis will buff each other in modern MtG.
>>12630869>It's too bad there's not a modern Shandalar thoughThe only recent game I've liked that kinda scratches the same itch is Dungeon Drafters. Some people swear by MTG Forge's adventure mode. I tried it a few years ago and didn't really like it, but maybe it has gotten better in the meantime.
>>12630882>The big issue is combat damage. Learn the Shandalar way and you are going to have a hard time with mtg in 2026.Creatures were just incredibly weak in the 90s. Every modern set has uncommons that are overwheling better than the best rare creature of 1995.
>>12630479Had a bigger following in America with like twenty different domestic copycats and a magazine but ig jerking off japan is more important to /vr/
>>12631404>me! me! me! me!, why isn't everyone talking about me!, pay me atentioooooooon!!!
>>12624428It has jank and a bit of a learning curve, but it's the most soulfullest and funnest computer mtg.
>>12624441I only recommend it if you know how to cheese and understand the AI is basically retarded enough to let you tap mana so you have to basically be the honorable man.One bit of trivia about this game though is that the black knight cards became horseless because they couldn't give the actor a horse. So black knights are now considered to be superhumans who run as fast as horses.
>>12631404how am i jerking off japan? Take your meds.
>>12631389More like creatures in modern Magic are overwhelmingly overtuned and powercrept.
>>12631346Yeah, I've looked around and most of them are roguelike/lites. The main point of Shandalar is building your deck from scratch, by collecting cards piece by piece from fights/shops. Most of the newer games just lets you assemble a full deck from the get go and/or "run" based.
>>12624428>Do you recommend this game for someone who has never played MTG?No, Shandalar is a game for really committed MTG fans.>How faithful it is to the original trading card game?It's very accurate to the very first versions of the game, which is not a good thing because those iterations were wildly unbalanced.Speaking as a person who really liked MTG at one point, I would not recommend anyone to get into MTG. But if one were to do so, I would recommend playing with a more recent simulator like MTG Forge.
>>12632858>Speaking as a person who really liked MTG at one point, I would not recommend anyone to get into MTG.why not ?
>>12633040Its just a collab mess now, it feels like a mobage with biweekly collabs.Final fantasy Spider manAnother marvel comics collabTmnt AvatarStar trekhatsune mikuThe hobbit (lord of the rings was a while ago, and that at least fit the setting).
>>12631404embarrassing post
>>12633228>lord of the ringsI was never into card games, so I didn't have any experience actually playing Magic, but I always respected it for being an important part of "nerd" associated hobbies and for its influence on a lot of stuff I like to this day.Then I saw the black Aragorn card and all that respect instantly vanished.
>>12633228>Spider-Man IndiaWhat
>>12633360Spiderverse. India had a spiderman too.
>>12633228>>12633402I hate this gay world so much.
>>12633228thats...not a real card right ?
The wrinkle here is that some of those UB sets are actually *very good*. Spiderman was a tremendous turd, but LotR and Avatar were both great, and Final Fantasy is an all-timer.
>>12634817>*very good*In the sense that the cards are powerful?
>>12633864Haha....
I can't play 1997 MtG any longer, I think even back in the day its graphics felt bit dated and strange. After installing the game, it looked like vomit on my flat panel.Decided to download Planewalkers 2009 from Minerva (Myrient replacement).
>>12634960>Planeswalkers 2009Make sure to download cheatengine and speedhack it to run at double speed. Trust me its needed.
>>12634971I couldn't download it, stuck at 59% after couple of hours. I don't know if I'm throttled or not but Minerva sucks ass. Seens like it's useless as a backup because it's impossible to download anything. I'm not going to wait for a week for some cdrom sized download.Need to find some other source.
