Did you try it?
>Mother fans excited to play Mother for the first time
I will play it if it's actually finished and not a tech demo
Im playing through it now, I like it much more than the original mostly thanks to no random battles.
>>12636332Is it not finished??
>>12636332>>12636343its finished.
Well I'm playing through it now and it always makes me laugh when people make nothing out of something. Lot of things like Black Mesa actively go out of their way to fuck with your knowledge of the original. And the people clamoring for a remake of this are the same people who never played more than 10 minutes of it. It seems the enemies are stronger so far, which is not great. And no random battles does not make for easier battles because now enemies can group together, and 2 centipedes or 2 mouses is enough to kill you at the start!! You have Mother2 style equipment so i guess you need to start relying on those instead of rings and pendants.
>>12636358They made the overworld so much smaller for no reason though
>>12636358Okay nevermind. Unless there is some hidden secret like a mr baseball cap this is not enough. I found a travel charm which gives a whopping 1 defense. The slap gives 4.
>>12636362Well I can't rag on them for that because afaik the way the map is designed in mother 2 it's all one giant jpg which usually turns people off from making oc maps so this impressed me.good example of why random encounters > grouping encounters because this is way too much for this point. The ghost solidifies you and that lets the other two enemies wreck your shit and one of these enemies already do enough damage to 2hit kill you. if this game is using mother2 escape rates like i expect, then that would explain why im dying so much. You really are not meant to fight these enemies yet mother2 escape rate is so fucking low compared to mother1 escape rates.also these enemies can possess you in addition to solidify which doesn't exist in mother 1. this makes your combat stats take a nosedive and its a death sentence.
>>12636319Mother 1 was one of the worst games I have ever played in my life.The remake may make the art more charming and fix the broken movement, but it's still a fundamentally boring and shallow ""game"" (read: walking sim)
you could argue that i just suck and im not grinding like i should be but im already level 5 in battles like these. normally i would've gotten pippi at level 1 just using healing items and running from the battles and at level 5 that's enough to beat frankie and his robot in mother 2. and this is while gaining significantly less exp overall.
>>12636430>The ghost solidifies youthat's cringe as fuck those ghosts were a gag enemy in Mother 1, they were easy to beat and you're telling me they inflict status effects on you? lol
>>12636319Go post in your containment thread, pigger
well i finally got pippi... i was right there but when you enter this room either there will be nothing or like 5 enemies when you come out the door. Those gangster zombies already have high crit rates but crit damage is a lot stronger in mother 2 so often they would just fucking oneshot me because for one thing i'm not using savestates. Things should hopefully get easier from here. If 4TH-D Slip is still in the game I should have no problems. If they removed it, i'm in a lot of trouble.
>>12636446go back to /v/
the hulkinator is still in this game BUT as an npc character and not a playable character. She's still a god of war but sometimes she does stupid actions that do nothing
This one really rustles my jimmies though. Normally this enemy has to do an action where 'it moves closer' and that will cause it to gain double offense. In this it doesn't need to do that. It just has this as its base attack power. It still has the action but apparently someone didn't know what this did because here its just a pointless action.
Sounds like they inadvertently made the early game really rough to get through compared to the original Mother. I wonder if they kept the mechanic from Earthbound where you just auto win if you're a few levels higher than your enemy.
>>12636524Yes there is still instant wins but it's funny because i still can't instakill a centipede
big fan excited to play it for the first timehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Fh2pTWlDFY
>>12636430You ALWAYS go for the ghost first, usually one hit from Ninten kills them if you're at the adequate level and gear to take on the cementery
>>12636545Well, there's not much point now but I'll keep it in mind.I finished off Starman and got the third melody, time for Magicant... what in the fuck? Oh no, is this the end??
No, no nevermind. For some reason they wouldn't advance dialogue but I left the area and now they moved.
>>12636575That's the bridge to Merrysville not the bridge to Magicant cave
>>12636582Oh yeah... Thanks, my depth perception failed me.I had planned to buy a magic coin asap but the prices are a bit higher this time.
Sweet Little's Factory now has enemies from Duncan's Factory.You can buy Boomerangs in Merrysville! iirc you can't buy them here normally but you can still get them at this point if you walk all the way around the train tracks to Reindeer.Also some new inventions form this guy... not sure if any of them work except maybe the shield killer which fits being in the useless invention shop...
>>12636631You could buy boomerangs in Merrysville in the orginal.
>>12636730Alright smart guy, here's something that definitely doesn't happen in the original. Ullrichs drop psi stones in this which is fantastic because they seem to break much more easily.I am going to try to see if I can get Ninten to solo Giegue in the house on mt itoi
by using the onyx hook in the house*
>>12636768A swoosh enemy dropped a sudden fight capsule, I don't remember that item in the oringinal, it was either the normal or parent variants, don't remember which
Okay, now I have teleport i'm unstoppable.But this fight made me realize I won't be getting away for much longer. This guy gives great exp and you could fight him as much as you want. After I kill him here though, he's gone for good.
I feel like Mother doesn't really fit the Earthbound art style and dare I say on screen encounters. I played up to Magicant and it's missing a certain something. Still cool to see it completed
Okay nevermind, I completely forgot about the field spawns. Mystery niggas
>>12636825Mmn, some are a bit lacking. Personally I think most of these sprites are really good, like this trucks looks awesome.
>>12636840The truck is awsome because it's new art instead of a port of an 8bit sprite
>dimension slip>didn't workIt's so over
>>12636873that's going to make the endgame very annoyingsurely they didn't also remove the instakill PSIs and bombs. . . . .
>>12636319former artist on this shit posted in the other thread
>>12636887teleport cheese is out too
Bombs are still in this. In fact as you can see in that screenshot teddy bear are in this which is new. And PSI Beam r is definitely still here and it is an instakill. Not sure about critical hp psi like PSI Freeze because these fools can survive a single round of battle, but I probably won't get things like Super Heal because I'm pretty sure Mother 2's engine does not allow for learning skills from usage like how it is in the original. I assume they are learnt at like level 60 in this or something.
can't survive* I just want to see if you can still do the onyx hook exploit to get ninten to solo the final boss
>>12636890Tldr?
>>12636904Messianic jew got banned for kvetching too much.
>>12636332It is indeed finished. It's spent 19 years in some form or fashion being developed, even if some of those times, it's had to be redone from scratch because somebody didn't give the source files to other folks before disappearing
>>12636873>>12636891and yet people will still claim the game with a 100% guaranteed escape, a free 50% escape, offense up, powershield that reflects all damage, repel ring, teleport cheesing and menu cheesing is too difficult
>>12636890>kicking someone for having their own political viewswhy are these dev teams all trans
>>12636910>OY VEY THE AUDACITY OF THESE GOYIM
>>12636913this won't free palestine btw :)
>>12636914The entire Western world wants you dead btw :)
>>12636916you wont do shit, goy.
>>12636921
>>12636924>random literallywho is his rebuttalthis will surely save gaza from being glassed, oh wait didnt
>>12636931I'm not a cowfucking muslim, but whatever helps you sleep at night, heeb.
>>12636932>SAAAAR I'M NOT MUSLIM PLEASE SAAAAR
I can teleport on the plateau though. I guess it didn't work before because the cave is an indoor area. If you die with Eve here, you respawn at this point which isn't as hard as you may think... They don't target npc characters the same way as teddy bears. I'd say they go after Eve only about 25% of the time.
>>12636890leader of the project is an evil cunt that mistreats the people who work on her stolen valor fantasy
>>12636940Her?
Damn, (((Messianic))) having a melty.
>>12636953you sound upset, ahmed
>>12636954Nah, that's you: >>12636940
>>12636940>her
So the creator is a tranny that doesn't likes genocide and the artist was a jew that supports genocide?
>>12636971no the trannies liked the genocide so they kicked out the artist because he tried to get the jew ousted, I think
>>12636971Bingo.
>>12636934>>12636931Trying way too hard to fit in rn, but I’m glad the outcome of your heated lover’s quarrel with the anon resulted in your self report.
The onyx hook still works. Giegue has some new trickery and can now use status attacks including instant death attacks... But I lucked out and you can now dodge its attacks sometimes.Final thoughts:The random encounters do not make the game hard because the hard parts are sitll hard or harder in some cases. I am not against making the game harder, I've played other EB romhacks and it's not until you start playing them you realize how much the vanilla game pulls its punches.At some point the only way you're going to survive here is because of the rolling hp mechanic, so you're gonna have to get used to attacking then healing right before you die, unfortunately at the start this isn't really possible because your hp is too low and the damage is too high, but it's because of this your other party members are basically numbers on your screen that you can't use because they die too easily to be usable so no matter how you play its just a ninten soloMost of the new battle sprites are good. The music was good too.It even kept in some quirks like if you use breadcrumbs somewhere in the real world and then go to magicant, then leave, the breadcrumbs you use will take you to magicant.The custom world map is really cool, I just wish things were a little less narrow or you had Teleport b because it's really easy to hit a wall when trying to teleport.It may sound strange but I think I will stick to playing the NES/FC version.
>>12637046Why does every Giegue resprite look like shitabsolutely mogged by the NES
>>12637038calm down fag
>>12636971calm down fag
>>12637084You know, if you’re still heated or searching for resolution to your current conflict or outside tertiary issue you’re still attempting to damage control / validate your anger over. You can just ease off the shit that gets you this riled and moody.
>>12637073Because since MewTwo, everyone thinks Giegue is part of that race and they base him off of it
>>12637046>It may sound strange but I think I will stick to playing the NES/FC version.That's not strange at all, but really it's good advice. Thanks for taking one for the team and slogging through this shit for the rest of us, anon.
>>12637073It's what happens when artists try to make the same picture except in a higher fidelity format. Giegue only looked the way that it did because it was created with 8-bit in mind so you would need to reimagine it accordingly instead of just copying it and slapping on extra colors. Even though that other game is too political and not a true remake I bet it will have a decent sprite for xim/xer
https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/5923/For people who want to play the original game, this took Mato's translation from the GBA port and put it into the NES version
>>12637307What's wrong with the original translation?
>>12637317I don't think anything is wrong with it, the idea is that Mato's translation should be better on paper given his reputation
>>12637336I'll pass, that guy is a fag.
Forgot to mention but the ending is now just a text scroll after the ship flies away. No slideshow credits, just a text scroll from beyond the cliff. I think the text is glitched here because it's trying to call the names of party members that aren't in the party...
>>12637339How is he a fag exactly
But this part still worked
>>12637362He's a liberal, therefore he is my enemy.
>>12636319is there a problem with earthbound zero nes that i should play this one? ime "updated" versions are almost always worse. mario all stars, dragon warrior iii snes, etc.
>>12636890Why is this fanbase so weird? Everybody in it since Undercringe is mentally ill.Also, this remake does not have playable Pippi which was important in the original. It was charming to have this little character be playable for the short time you had her and she helps build levels.
>>12637458I think the biggest complaint is the random encounters which aren't even that bad. It's basically like any other nes rpg at the time but earthbound fans aren't really hardcore gamers so they usually get scared off by things like that
>>12637469Every fanbase since gamergate is mentally ill
>>12637458DW3 remakes are all better than the original, Mario 3 also has more content in the gba remake
>>12637458not at all, the original game is superior in every way
>>12636319Pretty graphics can't improve the incredibly dull and braindead gameplay
>>12636953He seems chill about it. He is a tranny allower btw
>>12637658>long of
what do i even do here
>>12637728Go back. It's north from the train station now. There's a ramp
>>12637728
>>12637740yeah, i backtracked, saw the ramp and realized i was retarded.On a side note, these yucca enemies are fucking awful. are we supposed to skip to youngtown first or just grind on snowman mobs for better magicant equipment?
>>12637750I didn't buy the magic coin until waaay later and by that point it didn't make any difference because everything at this point does 200-300+ damage. use Bread loafs before you are about to die/out of pp for dimension slip to get progressively further until you finally get to youngtown, once you get teleport things will move so much faster
Oh neat. Is it just Mother 1, but with Earthbound visuals?
>>12636319how much did it change in the SNES remake? is all the items, dungeon layouts the same?
>>12637808A lot of items got switched out for their EB counterparts and some equipment got added to make the experience smoother. Dungeons were reshuffled mostly to slip-up experienced Mother 1 players and people using guides.It's a bit of a smoother experience than the original, but it's still rough compared to Earthbound proper or Mother Encore.
>>12637834>smoother Are we playing the same romhack? This feels like a worse experience than the original.
>>12636319Did they make Teddy easier to obtain or harder to lose?
>>12637356>>12637364Disappointing, but not surprising considering the development timeline.
>Never played Earthbound>Never played Mother 3>Never played Undertale>Never played Deltarune>Never played Lisa>Have beaten Mother 1 without the exp ring>Have beaten Moon Remix RPG>Played Yume Nikki in 2009Where does this place me in the hierarchy of Mother/Undertale troons.
>>12638136On the top for superior taste. Congratulations you are the troon king.
>>12638136a bit cringe because you played Mother 1, Moon and Yume Nikki.
So in other words hackers who get off at vandalizing the works of others are themselves weird attention-whoring borderline-personality hacks, and if you're making one you're better off either doing it solo or at least making sure your team's online footprint minimal.
>>12638146Thats whats up>>12638149I'm fine with this
>>12638136So the only good game you played is mother 1
>>12636349Oh damn, really? Maybe I'll try it then.>>12636362Probably because the world in the original game is huge, but has very little 'density,' there's huge stretches of absolutely nothing at all which there's no point to go seeing.Now, whether you actually like that aspect or not is another question (it does make the world bigger), but if you wanted to make the game more like Earthbound, then compacting down the world map some would make some practical sense.>>12636430Seems like maybe there's still some polishing left to be done.>>12636491I forgot about that shit, lmao
>>12636890glad that I dont care about tranny drama and just play videogames. this remake is an awesome thing to have, even if it doesnt replace the nes original.
>>12637336if the mother 3 translation is any indication, you should definitely just stick to the original.
>>12637458dq3 snes is the definitive version, a top 5 SNES rpg and probably the best remake ever made you double nigger
>>12637458>muh tasteful green fireballsCurrent year /vr/ is really retarded.
People are complaining that the game is hard and grindyHasn’t Mother 1 always been like that? Sounds like the remake is being faithful
>>12636319Does this one let you have a party of four, or does Teddy still forcibly bench Lloyd?
>>12638002>>12639345party of 3.
>>12639221snes too far abandoned the look and feel of the original. gbc keeps the creature comforts and added classes of the snes version while reverting to a more appropriate graphical style, and especially music. snes music sucks, everything is over-arranged and isn't true to the baroque compositions of the original.
>>12639398The original looks awful compared to any remakes man
>>12638136Weirdo contrarian. You'll fit right in here.
>>12639398its completely subjective but I couldn't disagree more, SFC version looks and sounds absolutely gorgeous and has the typical dq charm. And definitely my favorite version of the OST. GBC is great too but there's no reason for the downgrade unless you really like monster medals and a shitty post post game dungeon.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piflyBXA4ZE&list=PLdaHf7eG-NSw77bCYlfu24wcE4WOT7np0&index=13
Well, I just finished the game.I noticed that in this version of the game you straight out can't sell the katana (Teddy's strongest weapon).I thought the game was hinting that I would regret selling it, something that would only make sense if I could recruit Teddy back, but this went nowhere.I wonder if you can do the Teddy workaround and finish the game with him on the party, and if the ending will acknowledge this.
>>12639221>weapons like boomerang and flail that hit entire groups or even the entire field therefore rendering the entire point of attacking spells and enemy grouping moot>item bag that lets you carry 99 healing items, lessening the point of healers and even rendering the priest class useless until mid game>a second book to turn anyone into a sage, rendering the entire point of the Goof-Off class moot>sugoroku mini game that hands you and sells you OP equipmentDQ3 - braindead press X to win edition; which you WILL cope into calling it "grind free"
>>12639932>boomerangs are weak and not even worth using for the vast majority of the game, and at no point is forcing you to use them>no is forcing you to carry 99 herbs+requiring a priest at the start is both boring and bad game design>2 sages was never even close to necessary, 1 is more than enough so the goof off was moot even in the original>completely optional mini game that you have to go out of your way to doso in exchange for a bunch of self inflicted non issues you get more classes, personality system, dramatically improved presentation, much better boss fights, and a post game. you are like the retards who complain ff8 is broken because they grinded triple triad for 20 hours before ifrit's cavern then did a low level run. you control the buttons you press
Finished the Mother remake. I never played the original despite bought it on the Wii U shop years ago.Game is a bit unbalanced if you grind cash to buy the good Magicant gear. I didn't know it would eventually be the best equipment in the game. For most of the midgame enemies were doing 1-20 damage. I got a random drop from an enemy called the Plasma beam which let Lloyd do 200 damage every turn and it never broke, at least according to the old guides.The final climb with the giant robot was brutal. Even with a NPC that does 400 on odd turns and 2000 on even turns I kept dying. What's worse, thanks to the weird Earthbound quirk, you respawn at the halfway mark of Itoi with two dead party members and a 0 pp Ninten. If you use save states over hard saves, you're fucked.The worst part of the game is getting the chick and having to hear the stupid chirping sound effect and not realizing you need to hand it over to an NPC for a melody. Overall I found the game to be average and didn't convince me to try the original.Another note when I heard about this remake, I found another fan remake that only has a demo. I'm a bit wary of it because it's probably done by Under/Delta troons and their fangames are fucking garbage gay shit.
>>12640098>The final climb with the giant robot was brutal. Even with a NPC that does 400 on odd turns and 2000 on even turns I kept dying. Yeah that doesn't happen in the original, the robot takes every hit since she was canonically built to protect Ninten but I guess the demake devs missed that when they watched a let's play of the original game.>I found another fan remake that only has a demo. I'm a bit wary of it because it's probably done by Under/Delta troons and their fangames are fucking garbage gay shit.well the one you just played was also made by undertroons so yeah they're both shit
>>12637801they had to cut up the massive ass overworld into chunks because M2's engine did not support big ass overworlds like M1 has
>>12640851it's moreso that they didn't have the skill to expand the map
>>12640098>I found another fan remake that only has a demo. I'm a bit wary of it because it's probably done by Under/Delta troons and their fangames are fucking garbage gay shit.Love the presentation and personality of that game.Shame about your brain damage.
>>12641197Found the fag dev. Faggot.
>>12641197I love the edgelord fanfiction you guys addedcan't wait for the scene where Teddy stabs a Mr. Saturn
>>12641231>brown girl NPCEw.
>>12641231
>>12641334The image is from reddit
>>12641197Why did they make the best party member temporary? Would gladly ditch Ana any day for her
>>12641462It's a programming accident. I don't remember the entire technical reason, but basically Pippi and Teddy are the same character (only she has an equipment limitation). They probably didn't even plan to have her playable back when she was supposed to be a boss, but thought knocking out a little girl was a bit much.
