NEC had all the cards required to absolutely murder Nintendo and Sony. They had technical expertise, manufacturing capacity, developer contacts and had already developed previous consoles. They had deep knowledge of software, operating systems, semiconductors, and consumer electronics. They already had a CD-ROM console and could have lead the 3D revolution.But they built a bulky FMV player and sidelined their own 3D GPU development, which would eventually become PowerVR.
>Can't make a good console, so they make chips for major players instead (N64, Dreamcast)What a bunch of cucks. It's no wonder their office looks like this.
>>12637832>>12637904You're either a zoomie or a brownskin trying to stir shit so I should not even bother but oh well...NEC never had actual position to properly enter game console market as a big player. Their main schtick was producing computers for professional and business market. >>12637904 is actually more in line with what they were known for and ultimately was a better business than releasing new console. Between Nintendo, Sega, Sony and soon MS the game console market was crowded as fuck and there was more money in producing components for consoles than actual consoles. Obviously later they lost in that category to Chinks, but that's a different story.
>>12637924They beat genesis in Japan. It was a matter of having better management. They were an absolutely massive company, like Sony, and were ahead of them on a number of things.
>>12638359>They beat genesis in Japan.Well that's because Nintendo strongarmed retailers threatening to pull their own stock if they dared stock Megadrive. They couldn't pull that with NEC and that's also why Sega started making rebrand hardware for different manufacturers like Hitachi and Victor.
>>12638364i heard through the grapevine that nec/hudson approached nintendo saying they'd like to get into the console market and nintendo just kinda had a laugh and told them good luck with the endeavors; overall they sort of had nintendo's blessings but vaguely.
>>12638368Hudson approached Nintendo with the Hucard/Bee card format to pitch a Famicon add on that played games through them, but Nintendo decided to use their own proprietary cards for the Famicom Disk System. Hudson had a pretty close business relationship with Nintendo, and I believe they were the first third party dev to release Famicom games. After being rejected, Hudson approached NEC with the format, and they decided to make their own console.
>>12638364>Well that's because Nintendo strongarmed retailers threatening to pull their own stock if they dared stock Megadrive.Is that not super illegal?
>>12638385Why was Nintendo unable to collaborate with NEC on the N64 CD, opting instead for a partnership with Philips?
>>12638527It's not like it actually happened. It's someone forcing a meme.
>>12638527Nintendo wouldn't be Nintendo if they played fairly.
>>12638527>>12638364Wtf? I love Nintendo now.
>>12637832>NEC had all the cards required to absolutely murder Nintendo and Sony.except for the most important one - no one knew who they were.
>>12637832>NEC had all the cards required to absolutely murder Nintendo and SonyThey lacked international distribution, and that's the only thing that truly matters in the end.Sony had spent decades building distribution and supply lines in almost every corner of the world before launching the PlayStation. Every electronics store that sold Sony products and any place that sold anything on CDs were a place that Sony could sell some PlayStations and PlayStation games at.Nintendo had/has their regional distribution model. This allows them good penetration into specific markets while completely abandoning everything outside of those.Sega didn't have much in the way of established contacts but they were willing to let anyone anywhere sell their stuff.And all this is clearly visible in each companies actual per region sales numbers of the era. Sony sold well everywhere, Sega sold a bit everywhere and a bit more in places with no Nintendo, and Nintendo sold well anywhere that they were actually selling at all.NEC was neither able or willing to do this work.
>>12638364It's actually because the launch of the Mega Drive in Japan was a fucking mess. Both launch titles were super scaler games that made the Mega Drive look weak. Altered Beast came out a month later and was an impressive port of a mid game. The first good game for the Mega Drive in Japan was Phantasy Star II in February 1989 and even that game got mixed reception from Japanese critics.
>>12638359>They beat genesis in Japan.That's like winning the special olympics.
>>12637832>deep knowledge of software, operating systems, semiconductors, and consumer electronics.that's like saying Apple or Xerox should have made a vidya console, and win.
>>12638841They should have.
>>12638823PCE just better and special.
>>12637832OP had all the hot takes from a youtube
>>12638712Another underrated factor was just how quickly Sega was moving through console hardware in Japan. The Mega Drive was their third new console in five years, and support for both the SG-1000 and the Master System in Japan quickly dried up as soon as their successors were released (Wonder Boy III wasn’t even released for Master System there). I wouldn’t put it past any Japs for believing the Mega Drive would be abandoned shortly after Nintendo released their successor to the Famicom.
>>12639060>the Master SystemTechnically it's real name is the System.
>>12639076Not in Japan. In Japan it was the officially the SG-1000 Mark 3 and was later rebranded as the Sega Master System.
>>12638841>AppleYes they should have, the Pippin was ahead of the curve in many ways but it was too expensive and not a 3D console. They should have used some budget AMD k5 instead of cramming a pricey powerpc in there.
>>12639076>>12639076FUCK OOOOOOOOOOFFFF
>>12637924>You're either a zoomie or a brownskin trying to stir shit so I should not even bother but oh well...*stirs the pot with race-baiting anyway*Top kek I will never tire of 4chan
>>12638551NEC manufactured the N64 CPU, you retard.
>>12637832Because their biggest mascot was "Bonk".
>>12639253that is a great game man
>>12637832It was genuinely bad timing in an industry that, at the time, was changing extremely quickly. Despite releasing in 1994, development of the PC-FX started in 1990 and no one knew that 3D capabilities was going to be the next important thingMeanwhile at Sony:>On 27 October 1993, Sony publicly announced that it was entering the game console market with the PlayStation. According to Maruyama, there was uncertainty over whether the console should primarily focus on 2D, sprite-based graphics or 3D polygon graphics. After Sony witnessed the success of Sega's Virtua Fighter (1993) in Japanese arcades, the direction of the PlayStation became "instantly clear" and 3D polygon graphics became the console's primary focus. SCE president Teruhisa Tokunaka expressed gratitude for Sega's timely release of Virtua Fighter as it proved "just at the right time" that making games with 3D imagery was possible
>>12639259Nah PlayStation was already focused on 3D by the time of the release of virtua fighter,you don't completely change the architecture of a console just 1 year before the releaseVirtua fighter just prove to third party that 3D was the future
>>12639269>PlayStation was already focused on 3D by the time of the release of virtua fighterSource?
>>12639249See>>12639185
>>12637904pc-engine cd was a pretty good console, anon. it had not only cd-rom but also internal save slot memory, beating the saturn and the xbox to that concept.
>>12639415Even Neo Geo card
>>12639175>but it was too expensive and not a 3D console.yes. the nintendo consoles were economical and printed money. no other corpo seems to be able to copy that strategy.
>the PC-FX started out as “Iron Man” (“Tetsujin”, in Hudson’s native Japanese), a prototype in 1992 designed to render 3d graphics over pre-rendered backgrounds. Fans of the Sega CD’s rendition of Silpheed might get excited about this.>The “Tetsujin” prototype was not released, but became the basis of the PC-FX two years later, with its 3D capability stripped out, but keeping the digital video capabilities.is this true? they had the technology and threw it out?
>>12638364More like because Sega thought they were on the same level as Nintendo, despite their first console tanking. The people in charge didn't add any incentives, for retailers and developers. Just a repeat of the same business tactics Nintendo did, without any results to back it up.
>>12639259>SCE president Teruhisa Tokunaka expressed gratitude for Sega's timely release of Virtua Fighter as it proved "just at the right time" that making games with 3D imagery was possibleby that logic, Dreamcast should have won. and SEIGA!!! should have kept making arcade games instead of giving up and going back to making gambling machines.
>>12639452nintendo actually chose the best chips as far as mips per dollar go, nevermind the memory bandwidth
>>12639253Bonk is solid, no worse than Crash Bandicoot.
>>12639253Hudson also made bomberman...
>>12637904>phallic buildingWhy they do this?
>>12639468>>12639253Should been Shantae...
>>12638712Add to that their awful Osomatsu-kun game made during the 80's anime run, which got so bad it gave birth an urban legend that its mangaka threw an ashtray at a Sega employee out of anger at the quality of the game. I think Thunder Force II was a true display of the Mega Drive's potential in 1989, but the damage was done.
>>12637832>NEC had all the HuCardsftfy
>>12637832>NEC had all the cards required to absolutely murder Nintendo and Sony.I dont even know who NEC is but if you honestly believe that you need unironic psychiatric help. You probably use the same bullshit narcissistic logic in other faucets of your life and thats genuinely dangerous. You're not a prophet and even if you were you're too late. Stop, be a person, not whatever the fuck you are currently trying to be. Even if you could make the perfect argument nothing changes, its all for your ego. On 4chan.... christ dude.
>>12639507>I dont even know about X>>actually knows about X>>derives narcissistic supply from not knowing about things more than anyone else
>>12639507NEC was pretty much Japanese IBM and they completely dominated the home computer market on the country. They definitely had the corporate power to crush Nintendo in the 80's but videogames were not seen as a high priority. Severe mismanagement then caused them to lose both the home computer market and the console wars.
>>126385271. Possibly not in Japan, I'm not an expert on Japanese antitrust law2. Laws only matter if they're enforced
>>12639575>>12639507Fun fact: The TG-16 almost got the exclusive port of Mortal Kombat.
>>12639480the architectural equivalent of "dude manly beards and cigars and whisky and suits"
>>12637904Would
>>12639459>is this true? they had the technology and threw it out? Sort of. It was supposed to be an add-on card. The PC-FX has a slot underneath (kinda hard to reach, have to basically upend the console), where the 3D accelerator was intended to go. But the add-on 3D card was never released. The PC-FXGA has the 3D chip (Kubota/Hudson HuC6273), but there aren't any games which use it.
>>12638527No it’s not illegal to say>I won’t sell in your stores if you sell my direct competitor I have no idea why you faggots are this retarded
>>12637904it's a rocket.
>>12637832Otaku console (beta test)!
>>12640109it's far more complicated than that, you simpletonhttps://iclg.com/practice-areas/vertical-agreements-and-dominant-firms-laws-and-regulations/japan/
